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Nice work Ed. We are building race mowers with twin flathead Briggs.. we got to try this! Thanks! 🙏

Can I rewind the charge coils myself

I have a Pennsylvania Panzer tractor, and it has holes on the front cross member to mount the attachments.

What is the current draw of the LS2 coil at 3600rpm?

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thank you for the detailed information. Beautiful tractor

Got enough wires on it to wire a house 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

The Briggs 2 cyl engine can use 1 or 2 Magnetrons. The single cable type is for negative output high voltage to spark plugs. The single Magnetron that has( 2) thick output cables runs 2 cyl engine differently. The regular autotransformer of 3 terminals has the output using full primary and secondary together in series for high volts negative. The ground for secondary is same as primary point. The dual large cables type is NOT connected to the primary side. One cyl runs on positive high volts while other cyl runs on negative high volts. (By using this type Magnetron it is possible to get just POSITIVE high volts , for a one cyl engine, by putting the negative cable end to ground. ( This is only important when doing experimentation of alternate energy with less electrical problems with positive high voltage and other parts added in. The older style MAGNETO before 1982 as just an autotransformer , can also be used for positive high volts output by mounting on engine upside down. Then the aftermarket universal trigger is added. That set up delivers mush less high volts positive , since the primary is NOT part of the secondary side windings when fired. The separate purchased Briggs brand trigger module works on Magneto in both directions of mounting. The full Magnetron only allows embedded trigger to work in normal mounting of the Magnetron for negative output. The universal trigger module purchased as Stens, allows engine to form high volts at a lower RPM of engine , contrary to the Briggs brand trigger. The Stens universal type also allows workings with BOTH desired output high volts as positive or negative. It too me too long in time to figure this all out. Operation on Hydrogen cell requires curved aluminum plate with curved slot to remount Magnetron for adjustable timing ATDC to about -34degrees. Briggs engine has fixed timing point. The other way, as it was done in Georgia 2008, is to have a wound electromagnet with steel screw core, over the coil cable to instill magnetic field from battery 6 amps that slows down the spark to last from TDC to -34 degrees.

i have an old lawn mower with an apposed twin briggs ...i've had a lot of trouble with the coils ...they are known for it ..won't start when its hot ...i think this would be the answer ..all you can buy for them is cheep aftermarket coils for it ...and even the oe stuff does the same thing as its quite common ...

That grin at the end when he takes off...

Ed, does the brand of speed sensor matter, or can it be any brand from any vehical?

On my HH120, with the original pins, I had to set my TDC pin at .054". That left the advance pin not kicking in at idle, but very shortly after coming off idle. Seems to work fine that way. I'm using an LS3 module, and PC2 sensor from a 92 Buick with a 2.3 liter engine.

Working ignition plates for these Tecumseh-powered outboards are getting rare--and expensive! Thank you Ed for sharing your knowledge with us to keep these lightweight little motors in service!

After watching this I am going to use a gy6 ignition cdi and coil with a axle speed sensor for the trigger. Trying to bring a OH 180 back to life. Thank you for the information about the pins.

How does someone get a hold of you to repair one or two of these ignitions off of Miller 2e welder

Edit I'm getting ready to do this for oh180 for struck mini dozer this is fun stuff

If you can't embiggen the the short pin could a man file down the long pin

Nice job how many degrees is the advanced trigger pin at?

Dear Sir. Again just wandering. On the Farmall tractors could I install two pins on the crankshaft, and run two sets of these for a 4 cylinder engine??? Knowing this hits every time the piston comes up , I'm thinking if I split the plug wires on two coils I could make it much more simple to set up , and keep up with. Is this asking too much for this kinda set up? On my he magneto style of apposed cylinder engines , lots use a single coil with two plug wires. Or maybe use two pickup proximity switches , and 4 coils????? Both of these tractors have huge compression numbers , but are hard to crank and run after not having the point adjusted just perfect. Neither one has enough room to adapt an HEI GM distributor. Years ago I put an HEI distributor on an industrial 4cylinder. It was always hard to crank , but after it's new machined distributor, it cranked on first rotation. So I know if these two engines had hot spark, they would run much better.

Dear Sir. I see this video is getting some age on it. Could and , would you make a video showing exactly what to do to the GM PC2 proximity pick up???? I was a tool maker , and built robotic machines in the past , but I'm an imbecile when it comes to electronics. We had techs who done all of the wiring, because some of us just didn't do electronics (AT ALL). I can solder pretty well from learning a little jewelry repair. So if you would lay it out , as to items are needed, and how to connect the dots, I'd love to do this. I have several engines that could benefit from this. 2 Farmall tractors that I'm constantly adjusting the points on.

What RPM must the starter motor spin the engine to make spark ? Show me a wiring diagram that will work for rep-lacing the stock coil. Thanks.

My HH100 solid state coil is burnt out, I want the engine to run a log splitter at 3000 RPM. others say the ford wheel sensor and GM ing. mod works up to 2000 ROMs and then misses. How dose the senser know what pin to to run on? What do you recommend? thanks. 2-14-23

Does the zener connect to the input of the bridge, or the output? Thanks

Someone tell me where is the other connector when he is checking spark plug??

I got my 7.5 sears outboard running with a nova2 ignition module, like the old time atom ignition module. Are these the same circuit as the one you repaired? My system no longer has points and capacitor.

Does this replace the bridge rectifier that is in the OH120 video?

What bridge rectifier do I use and how would it attach?

We need more experimenting using this concept. I am using a 1999 for speed sensor and GM HEI module and standard 12v coil as well. Seems like there needs to be shielding on the wires for the wires.

I'm also curious how the ignition advance actually works. Wouldn't the pick up trigger Fire the coil twice once at TDC from the tall pin and again at the short pin say 20 deg before TDC?

I genuinely enjoy this. I'm experimenting with an hh100. I'm also curious about high frequency interference from a standard 12v canister coil and an hei module. timing

Ed, Can a trigger pin go bad? I have tested magneto & stator & they seem to be fine - no open circuits. Can regulator cause no spark on this engine?

Ed - Great new video, thanks for posting! I've got my parts ordered to build the points-triggered LS2 system, I'll let you know when that's done!

Nice work Ed. Clever to use the old coil windings as the trigger too. Cheaper than a new Hall Effect proximity and no need to fabricate a mount for it! Some of the garden tractor pulling guys need to take notes on this one. Not only is it a good replacement for a stock ignition coil it's also a high performance replacement. Well done!

Nice job Ed….. your skills always amaze me my friend

thanks share this video

Hello , when you test it where do you put the other end , on the ground kill , or the body casing ?? If you get a reading on the casing but not on the ground kill what does that mean ?? Thanks 😊

Ed, I have a Tecumseh SSI coil with no spark. Do have any for sale? Or can you repair mine if I send it to you? Thanks

Wish you had a video of the testing of the SSI. I seen the digram but still not sure what to touch with the ohms meter.

Hi there Ed, first of all thanks for sharing all of this great work you’re doing to keep these engines running, it’s given me hope that I can get my old tractor up and running. I had posted this online a couple of months ago but still haven’t been able to solve it: I have an (1969?) Sears 12 Hydrotrack with Tecumseh HH120. Died while mowing lawn, now zero spark. Bought an old Sears/Roper with a HH120 wired with a new push button start that would barely crank over the starter generator. The previous owner had the ground from the battery attached to a painted part so the SG was only getting 6-7 volts when cranking, moved the ground wire to the frame (as per another SS12 | have) and it fixed it, SG cranked over, hot spark, and it fired up. Ran the mower for a couple of hours and then it died. The engine was stressing a bit going up hill and then it felt like the kill switch was flicked while running and suddenly stopped. Checked for spark, zero spark. I've checked a bunch of things since it died but I want to hear your opinions before I go giving out bias. I have looked through your guide, checked the boot for the spark plug and zapped myself by touching the kill wire while cranking. Any help would be greatly appreciated, I have a few photos and can make videos about my progress, I’m starting to suspect the Pulse Transformer or a simple oversight on my part! Any help would be greatly appreciated!

This is fantastic information! I'm so glad I found your channel. Great stuff!

sir where did you put the other lead from the tester. I see the red where did you put the black lead. thanks

Have you ever done anything with twin cylinder kohler ign systems as far as eliminating points and condenser. Is it possible to put one of your trigger systems on a kohler opposed twin using a pin in flywheel type system. Is there some way I could contact you directly via email etc ?

I've got a few questions cuz I am doing that project on my Kohler command and I have a few different components and now that I've seen your video I would love to talk to you about this to see which way I should go about it so how can I get a hold of you?

Very interesting and ingenious. Thanks for posting!

Thanks for sharing this information Ed!

Great video Ed , I enjoyed it. I have some questions for you on the LS 2 I will email you. Thanks again. Ralph

Hi, I too am an engineer (EE). I'm close to retirement, but not quite there yet. I love "resurrecting" old technology, especially old outboard motors, generators, tube radios, and right now I'm working on an old Maytag washing machine motor (2-stroke twin cylinder). My generators include two 1960's ONAN twin cylinder engines and 3 old Civil Defense Kohler 350 watt "alternators". I've had the most fun restoring two old British Seagull outboards. One outboard has a standard "Kettering" points/mag/condenser ignition. The other has a very early Capacitive Discharge (CD) / magneto ignition. The 60/70 year old ignitions are usually the biggest challenge. I was wondering if you have ever experimented with the Velleman "transistor" electronic ignition trigger kit? I've read where it can take any type of input trigger (like the output of your old magneto coil), but is designed for reusing points and a battery. Also, you used two single electronic coil packs for the two cylinders. I'm wondering if the Velleman kit, your mag as trigger, and a single two-output dual coil (like a Dyna Coil) would work with your twin engine? I believe this twin works like my Onan twins and uses "wasted spark" (the spark plug fires in each cylinder on power, and during exhaust, which causes no problems). This is also like my BMW boxer 750 MC. Anyway, you have given me the incentive to finish the old Maytag engine project. I was going to buy one of the coils that a guy is manufacturing for folks restoring these old Maytags. But, he wants $150 for the dual-wound coil that fits under the flywheel. I may just go with your setup and adjust the timing as you did by adjusting the magneto pole gap. Keep up the good work. This is why I watch TH-cam. Thanks, Stu Los Alamos, NM

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve exactly. Does this provide a cleaner spark or are you just providing an alternative solution for ever increasingly hard to find parts for older engines? On another note, I was brought to your channel because of the failed pickup coil and module on a Tecumseh HH 120 on my Sears Suburban. I think I have another alternative and would like to hear your opinion. It could be lucrative. Hit me on messenger if interested.

Great video! I am looking at one to buy but I know nothing about it. In fact I haven’t seen one since recently. So this video is great! Thank you! That tractor looks very nice.

Wow! Impressive fix! Thanx for your detail and explanation.