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“Slavery Is SLAVERY”: We React to Spirited Comments on Our Video About Slavery in the Bible
Why didn’t God just say “Thou shalt not own slaves” in the Bible? We respond to some honest and tough questions posted on our video “Is the Bible Pro-Slavery?” We get into questions like: If slavery is wrong, why are there prescriptions for where to buy slaves for Israelites?; Why are there different rules for how to treat an Israelite slave vs. a non-Israelite slave?; and how our modern concept of slavery differs from ancient slavery.
Watch the original video: “Is the Bible Pro-Slavery?” here: th-cam.com/video/MTGMd0SEA98/w-d-xo.html
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Watch the original video: “Is the Bible Pro-Slavery?” here: th-cam.com/video/MTGMd0SEA98/w-d-xo.html
*** About Magnified ***
We produce entertaining videos that deliver a robust biblical education. Natively speaking the language of meme culture and rife with cultural references, we aim to bring the hope of the gospel into a modern, very online context.
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Follow our social channels:
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"There has to be some level of 'willing' for her to become your wife." No, there doesn't, liar. Every Christian apologist ends up being a slave apologist, and every slave apologist ends up being a rape apologist. Your religion is disgusting.
So many lies in this video. Here's the truth. The Bible condones and promotes chattel slavery. Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work. Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude." Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery. "44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour." Under Mosaic law, foreign slaves were chattel slaves. They could be bought, sold, separated from their families, beaten, raped, killed, kept for life, and passed down as inherited property. Every specific reference to foreign slaves in the Bible is to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. The treatment of foreign slaves was every bit as bad, or worse, than slavery in the Antebellum south.
"after six years [slaves who convert] are let go again." Lie, lie, lie...
"Those slaves can become a part of Israel." Not a single verse says this, liar. Exodus 12 is referring to free foreign residents, not chattel slaves. and it goes no further than saying that they can share the Passover meal if they have been circumcised. Lie, lie, lie....if you have to lie to protect your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
Love the way you quoted Exodus 21:20 "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.", but skipped over the next verse: "Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall NOT be punished: for he is his money." Cherry-pick much? Well, you're a Christian, so you are adept at cherry-picking.
"They are paid for their work, and they are paid for their medical expenses." Nope. More lies. Nothing in the Bible says they are paid for their work. If you have to lie to protect your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
"That elevation of human rights is still at play with Hebrew slaves or with foreign slaves." Nope. More lies. Non-Hebrew slaves had no rights or protections. Every verse which explicitly references non-Hebrew slaves does so in order to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. If you have to lie to protect your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
More lies. The provision against kidnapping applied only to fellow Hebrews. 1. Exodus 21 only pertains to how Hebrews should treat other Hebrews. 2. Verse 2 explicitly excludes non-Hebrew slaves from the regulations in Exodus 21. 3. Deuteronomy 24:7 clarifies that this applied only to Hebrews. 4. The Old Testament is full of examples of Hebrews kidnapping and enslaving non-Hebrews, such as in Deuteronomy 20. If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
"This doesn't say that they can't be freed." Therefore what, child? Slaves in the Antebellum South could also be freed.
There's no quicker way to get a Christian to lie than to ask them about slavery in the Bible.
"When you guys have slaves, you're going to treat them well." Nope. That's another lie. Exodus 21 states that slave masters can beat their slaves nearly to death, and Leviticus 25 states that they can abuse their non-Hebrew slaves even more harshly. If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
Schindler was not an omnipotent being. Analogy: FAIL. What's next, buddy?
"God doesn't say explicitly 'thou shalt not [own slaves]" The problem, child, is that God says explicitly "THOU SHALT [own slaves]".
I'm pretty sure most pesticide labels included instructions NOT to ingest them. So, you have yet to deal with the fact that the Bible never commands people NOT to own slaves. In fact, it commands people TO own slaves.
"pesticide labels don't provide instructions on how to properly ingest their products." They also don't provide instructions that people should ingest their products, but the Bible provides instructions that people should own slaves.
"God's prescription of how something should go is not endorsement of the thing itself." It is condoning the behavior, but in fact, God COMMANDS chattel slavery, and that is endorsement.
The only thing that was magnified here was your ignorance
Thank you for the message 🙏
Greta video! I appreciate the clear explanation
Piggy u talk too much. Go make some push ups ;))
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When a Christian says hermeneutics you know they found out their make believe god is not a good person.
There's no paradise, for all because hell and paradise are same places in This same world
Really good message to a better understanding.😊 Thanks
Christ quoted Enoch 3 times for instance Mathew 5:5 = Enoch 5:7
A loving, present father is a gift for any child.
It is hard to imagine a perfect Father if you didn’t have a loving father.Even if your father lived with the family and never abused anyone,if he didn’t do any kind loving things or did very few of them ,it’s still hard to imagine such a loving Heavenly Father!God please help us to love you with our entire heart and soul! Please help us to love like you do.Amen
Very interesting 😃 A great way to look at it.
This is a great video!
Wonderful and inspiring...Asking the right question is the key...
Excellent as always. Thank you!
Truly an excellent video. Thank you and may God bless you all.
Some of these commenters weren't ready for such a profound truth in such simple terms. Pray for them.
Nope. That is a lie. Deuteronomy 23 does not give an explicit law against returning a runaway slave. It gives a law against returning slaves running away from enemy nations. The context is clear from the immediately preceding verses. You have to be truly ignorant or dishonest to claim that the slave of a Hebrew masters could simply walk next door to the neighbor's home and demand sanctuary, but this seems to be the type of dishonest demanded by Christianity.
The immediately preceding verses (Deut. 23:9-14) are about the cleanliness (ceremonially and literally) of the camp, then we find the verses mentioned (vv. 15-16) and the verses immediately following (vv.17-18) prohibit prostitution and the use of money gained through prostitution. This section of Deuteronomy has many breaks in concepts as it is recording many separate laws, not one long continuous one. It’s like trying to read the Bill of Rights as one idea rather than as 10 separate amendments each addressing a different subject. It’s not dishonest to understand the structure of the primary text. Each law defines the scope and application of the law with the text of the law itself, just like every law we still write today. The text of vv.15-16 makes no mention of nationality. Connecting entirely separate laws to form a new meaning is either ill-informed or dishonest. It’d be like trying to say I have the right to take pot shots at anyone who I find speeding because I have the right to bear arms, which is either lunacy or a lie.
@@teep-yt Nope. They are about how to behave when encamped before an enemy. Verse 15 is in the same context. Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that the slave of a Hebrew masters could simply walk next door to the neighbor's home and demand sanctuary? Answer please, so that I know how seriously to treat you.
@@teep-yt Still waiting for your answer. Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that the slave of a Hebrew masters could simply walk next door to the neighbor's home and demand sanctuary?
@@teep-yt The section regarding harboring escaped slaves is IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING the laws about encampment before an enemy. It is simply ridiculous to claim that the slave of a Hebrew slave master could simply walk next door to the neighboring Hebrew slave master and demand sanctuary. Have some integrity.
@@cygnusustus are you applying that same same standard to the law about prostitution, claiming that it is only illegal to prostitute in the military camp? Is your position that it is impossible for the subject of subsequent paragraphs to change? You insisting that it's "simply ridiculous" does not change the facts of how laws define their scope and applications. You seem to be applying this idea of context in a very narrow way My only considering this passage and the verses before it, meanwhile you completely ignore the entire structure of the entire Book of Deuteronomy. If you're going to argue for the context, then you should spend the time to familiarize yourself with the actual literary structure of the book, rather than insisting your own view. Intellectual honesty also means actually engaging with the argument and not just attacking someone you disagree with.
So he can tell you not to eat shrimp (that's important!) but can't tell you not to own people as property? Right.
Dude, the bible blatantly endorses at least 3 types of slavery. Indentured servitude, chattel slavery and straight-up human trafficking. Why are apologists so intellectually dishonest?
Slavery as a form of organizing society economically isn't an inherent evil. Treating humans as less than humans is inherently evil. The issue is that in our modern perception we can't disconnect those two ideas. We often assume that individualist capitalism is the pinnacle of human morality, which is a naive belief. Slaves were allowed for Israel in the law, but the mistreatment and abuse of slaves was still disallowed. You can dehumanize and mistreat slaves just as easily as you can dehumanize and mistreat anyone. What the Bible actually advocates for is not an economic structure, but a moral and spiritual structure where all human beings are made in the image of God, where all human beings are fallen, and where salvation is available to all who have the humility to seek it. We only live in an egalitarian society with a concept of individual rights because of these ideas coming from the Bible. Every society on Earth had slavery, many still do, interestingly enough it is only Christian societies that abolished it.
@teep-yt this answer is not only wrong biblically it's straight up disgusting. IT IS ALWAYS EVIL TO OWN ANOTHER HUMAN BEING AS PROPERTY! And you are allowed to "mistreat" your slaves. You are allowed to beat them with a rod as long as they don't die after a day or two. You are allowed to take virgin girls who have never known a man and force them into marriage as a spoil of war (numbers 31) you can pass slaves down as inherited PROPERTY to your children. You can even gRape female slaves with minimal consequences. The god of the bible condones this. I can't believe you actually think this is ok. Shame on you, man. You make Christians and Christianity look abhorrent.
human trafficking would be man stealing which is punishable by death. Exodus 21:16 most servitude in the OT is a way to prevent the poor from starving while not crashing the fragile and primitive economy .
@teep-yt This answer is not only wrong biblically it's straight-up disgusting. IT IS ALWAYS EVIL TO OWN ANOTHER HUMAN BEING AS PROPERTY! And you are allowed to "mistreat" your slaves. You are allowed to beat them with a rod as long as they don't die after a day or two. You are allowed to buy them from the nations around you. You are allowed to take girls who have never known a man and force them into marriage as a spoil of war (numbers 31) you can pass slaves down as inherited PROPERTY to your children. You can even sexually assault female slaves with minimal consequences. The god of the bible condones this. I can't believe you actually think this is ok. Shame on you, man. You make Christians and Christianity look abhorrent. As far as your intellectually dishonest claim that it was Christian societies that abolished it.... they were also the same Christian societies that used the bible to justify it. There are non-Christian societies and secular societies that also don't have slaves. You are gross, man. Study some actual scholarship around biblical slavery and stop listening to apologists.
@@teep-yt "Slavery as a form of organizing society economically isn't an inherent evil." Thanks for demonstrating the moral bankruptcy of Christianity.
You seem to have good understanding. Keep it up.
But how does evil exist at all in the first place if everything comes from a perfectly good creator? How can imperfection come from perfection?
I’m not an expert, and I’m still learning, however, I think it’s the fact we have a free will. God gave us this so that we could actually love him, because love is truly love when we have a free will. Because of our free will we get to make decisions for ourselves, and on the day the serpent deceived Adam and Eve is when the first sin was committed. I’d say that Satan’s evil came from his free will as well. I hope this helps, and I’m still learning and reading the bible so I’m explaining this from my knowledge from part of the bible not all of it. If you go to church, or have people who also believe in Christianity (assuming you believe in it) you can always ask them. Even if you don’t believe in it, I think asking questions ins an amazing thing, and something you should definitely do more of!
@Imbored-5199 So it is impossible to create a free will being without them being predisposed to evil? If that was true then God who is described as perfect in the Bible would have to have evil in him as well given that he obviously has free will as well.
@@Imbored-5199 No free will !
I swear, the fastest and surest way to get a Christian to lie is to ask them about slavery in the Bible!
"Time and again we see God speaking to stubborn Israel, demanding mercy in the face of their evil." Nope. Lying again. When the Israelites spared the lives of their Midianite captives, God commanded them to kill them all, even children, except the virgin girls which they were commanded to keep as sex slaves. If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs!
"Families stay together." Nope. Lying again. In Exodus 21 we see that even Hebrew indentured servants can be separated from their families unless they agree to lifelong chattel slavery. If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs!
"Limits to discipline." Nope. Lying again. There were NO protections provided for non-Hebrew chattel slaves. Every verse that specifically mentions non-Hebrew slaves does so in order to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs!
Participating the the sabbath was not a benefit. It was an obligation. On one day the slaves have off, they are not allowed to work on their own behalf.
"Treat their slaves with dignity." Lie, lie, lie. Exodus 21 states that slave masters can beat their Hebrew indentured servants nearly to death, and Leviticus 25 states that they can abuse their non-Hebrew chattel slaves even more harshly. If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
Nope. Lying again. Deuteronomy 23:15 does not give an explicit law against returning a runaway slave to their master. It only prohibits returning a slave running away from ENEMY NATIONS to their masters. Read it in the context of the immediately preceding verses.
Nope. God did not merely "allow" slavery to occur. The God of the Old Testament condoned and promoted chattel slavery. Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work. Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude." Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery. "44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."
Still lying, I see. God does not merely allow slavery in the Old Testament. He condones and promotes chattel slavery.
Christianity is a cult
"He also made absolutely sure they'd never treat other nations the same way." Well, not you are just flat out lying. Deuteronomy 20: 10-14. If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.
"His own people went through slavery in Egypt, and he spared no expense in putting a stop to that." It's amazing how ignorant you Xtians are of your own scriptures. He allowed it for several generation, and then after finally freeing them he turned around and told them they could own other people as slaves.