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Try learning the front lever for 6 week or so (3 week with ice cream makers and 3 weeks without) and see which period gave you the best result, if you don't wanna do that for whatever reason, fitness FAQ made a video about ice cream makers, why they are trash and gave another exercise to do instead of ice cream makers. Have a good day and good luck with your training :)

@@blablasijus as mentioned in the video, for everybody it’s going to be different, You have to understand, that none of us have the same genetics, parameters etc. Personally for me (STRENGTHIST) this exercise (ice cream makers) worked really well and negatives didn’t, but maybe for You for example, negatives would work much better than ice cream makers, By utilizing our 12-set method, You would only need to choose one of all complimentary exercises listed on this video (in rare cases two) ice cream makers would primarily attack Your core, it would force you to hold Your hips in one position, it also mimics the entrance to front lever, which makes the exercise more useful, it trains proper scapular retraction and depression, essential for maintaining a solid shoulder position in the front lever and sometimes combining dynamic movement with static holds improves Your ability to stabilize in the lever position, so it is important that You listen carefully and up to You to decide if You need this exercise. As for who would You need to listen to, it’s Your choice, everyone has his own training methods, we have an over a decade of experience in calisthenics and 8+ years of experience in helping people to reach their goals, we are also active world level calisthenics athletes so it is very much in our interest to learn about calisthenics every day, to find new approaches and best exercises. Thank You for Your comment and wish You best of luck with Your journey!

Oh, that will be tough, bet Your message is heard, we will do it🤝

Good work! Thanks for Your feedback!

@Strengthist_ 100%! The framework is surely being effective for me, and I plan on sticking to it for a long while. Hopefully I'll get my planche by 2025 still! Started taking creatine which could help due to the strength boost and recovery speed up. I'm very optimistic about it. Mad respect guys! High quality content you two make. Crazy how this channel is so small with the ammount of knowledge here. Love from Brazil!

I’m sorry, I didn’t quite understand that, so You can straddle planche and can’t muscle up?

Thanks!🤝

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Appreciate it🙏

Thank you!🙌

th-cam.com/video/yjHcyYvPfg8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=YDe6FbJKozJ7tnQB Here's our video on planche

might be inflamed, go to a doctor

@@xsunshine99_45 It's not about that I can every single exercise in the gym without pain including the chest exercises but anyways THANKS for the advice

@@amazinggames-5809 okay, that's quite interesting, i don't know your full story so it's hard to say why you experience pain with dips. I have never experienced any pain, even when i was a beginner and could barely do a couple reps, now i can easily blast 15+ reps with 16 kg weight and still have never experienced any pain. So it could be that your form is incorrect or some other issues. I hope you can figure it out or consult proper help. GOOD LUCK

@@xsunshine99_45 Thanks bro

About manna, You may be right, we really aren’t familiar with this skill, but about other skills, as You may understand, the list is pretty subjective and individual, everybody would have his own list, since this is OUR list, there is no way something could be wrong here for us🙌🏻

@@Strengthist_ I understand but for the maltese skills, like floor and dragon with respect of course it doesnt seem you guys have experience in it. There are some takes in the list which are incorrect. But I respect your opinion and attempt at the end of the day

@@papertowel3472 Okay thanks for critique, now that I read Your first comment the second time, I actually, think that You really may be right😎

@@Strengthist_ Thank you for being very understanding bro!

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Agreed.

90kg at 177cm is wild for cali bro. 🔥

Specificity.

@@slugdoc1633 troll? 😂

@@LatissimoTwinTurbo no bro 😭 im dead serious man i can even proove it if u dont believe me i didnt even think victorian is that hard

💀 Not for me haha

It's crazy how individual all the skills are. For me it's the opposite i can do one arm but im far from a full front lever

@@murresk8 true, i can do a victorian, touch front lever, front lever pull ups, one arm pull ups, but i cant do a back lever

Looks like we’ll need to do a detailed One Arm Pull-up guide haha

Callisthenics is something else bro

Front lever is easier than oapu

@@freehatespeech6804 yeah and he ranked the front lever in medium WTF

@ difficulty of fl depends entirely on your proportions, weight, weight distribution and height

@@LatissimoTwinTurbo ofc and with all those factors the both get hard or easy but always the front lever is easier than te one arm pull up

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there's no way bro

More like you don't have any straight arm strength in a leaning position . Try training planche lean holds

I would say, Of course, But I would Advice you to do weighted Dips then, Try them with 20 kg, you should have the strenght and after being able to do 30 kg start handstand pushups or OHP and after building 1BW OHP with little to no cheating for 6 reps try the planche

At least that's what a youtuber named Playground Invader did and achieved the straddle planche right away. As well as my training companions. One Of them weights 67 kg and can do OHP with 60 kg for 5 reps. Attempted a deadman press and did it in one attempt. Must know that he is a Calisthenics athlete as well being able to perform several Freestanding HSPU

By the way Playground Invader didn't do OHP, he did Full rom HSPU facing the wall but it's the same thing

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