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I’ve tested it and it sucked (for me). Felt super underwhelming or just didn’t draw it when it was actually crucial.

based on roadoftheking, it looks like ryzeal is just the best deck period. tcg usually gets different hits to ocg so the wanted engine might stick around for a while if they wanna sell azamina for a couple formats

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@BimYGO yugioh party??? Lol are you kidding?

@@superidol8463 no lol you can see the url in the video

Do you have a list of the Duality Bystial Centurion? I'm curious as to how it looks and I want to try it myself.

@@raphaelcheng2254 For the main: Centurion (15) - 3x Primera, Stand Up, Oath - 2x Trudea - 1x Gargoil, Atrii (this was Bystial Aluber), Bonds, Phalanx (if 41 then Wake) Bystials (9) - 2x Lubellion, Druis, Bald - 1x Magna, Saro, Regained (Beast in the side) Consistency Boosters (4) - 2x Duality (they became +2 handtraps) - 1x Terra - 1x Prosp (the 3rd Trudea, helps with siding) Non-engine (12) - 3x Veiler, Imperm, Nib, Ash For the Extra: - lvl12: Auxila <-> Crimson, Legatia, Crimson, Blazar, Supernova - lvl10: Chaos Angel (the new Fabled Leviathan will be great here) - lvl8: Chaos Archfiend, Borreload Furious <-> Lubellion - lvl6: Malong <-> any bystial The last 5 slots were a toss SP, Typhon, Zeus, Artemis (for SP) or Scarred + og RDA. Note I have not updated this build since it was playing King Calamity, the idea was to make a safe Blazar turn 1 without losing to Veiler and Nib.

@@raphaelcheng2254 you should definitely try Shadows Light here along Duality (can allow the 3rd trudea as well due to the 2nd normal summon) and if you need space cut the handtraps for 10 boardbreakers. For a more casual setup. Shadows Light allows your Bystials to become a lvl12 synchro on their own because it doesn't tribute. But plays really hard into Nib and you can't utilize your big attackers to break the board so you need double Crimson into Supernova for a wipe (or Zeus with phalanx) You can also experiment with Resonators, Vision and Gaia are a good package to give you more synchro 8/10 plays but with Baronne gone I don't know if it's worth it. Dis Pater is good for getting back your synchros but a lot of times I couldn't reach it (going second) or have it live (going first) so call it a player bias on my part not including him and you should probably play it (unlike me)

@@babrad I'm a bit confused as to how the combo works. I don't know how you get the phalanx into grave other than hard drawing it and pitching it for stand up. I assume you don't search wake up, activate it, and then use it to dump the phalanx since that plays into nib which you don't want to do and also you list wake up as optional.

@@raphaelcheng2254 This is the issue with Duality. You need a 2 card combo. Stand Up/Oath/Phalanx + Trudea/Primera. You search first with Primera, make Auxila for Stand Up then discard it to place Gargoil for the opponent's turn. About Wake Up though, it doesn't lose to Nib. Lvl4 tuner + Lvl8 nontuner = lvl12 Auxila. 3 summons. Wake Up is the 4th. Then you banish it to mill Phalanx and do the Duality play in the End Phase safely. You lose Trudea in the S/T zone but the token is there to replace it and on the opponent's turn Primera will add Bonds.

I agree!! I've been playing shadows light for months in my cent build and now in my WF Cent build. If I draw it and astellar it's full combo and I can use the grave effect if I get interrupted or add back later and go ham lol.

Even going second game one shadows light can be a triple removal card. Druiswurm on field SL gets you Malong and synchro into Legatia gets you a draw and 3 cards off the field potentially.

LMFAO thanks for the rate on the deck

whats the name of the card?

Yes, yo need to play aerial eater and the resonator that adds you crimson gaia

​@@jesusriver151can you show me a deck build and combo please, been busting my brain

@@michaelwilliams310 th-cam.com/video/m_i-ZAsGsa4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6MshuPB4BT0R9lmF

​@@michaelwilliams310 they provided a link but yt-algo plays hide and seek with it. 1) Engraver discard, add Tract 2) Tract add Lurrie, discard Lurrie, SS Lurrie 3) Lurrie into Requiem, tribute to SS Lacrima (the lvl4) 4) Lacrima mill Engraver#2, then SS Engraver by shuffling back Lurrie 5) Lacrima + Engraver into Sequence, then fuse Lacrima + Requiem into Aerial Eater 6) Aerial Eater mill Vision Resonator, then add Crimson Gaia 7) Gaia adds the resonator from gy 8) Link Aerial Eater + Lacrima into Agnusdei (link3 fiendsmith) then SS Engraver from the GY with its effect 9) Turn Engraver into Necroquip, then SS Vision Resonator from hand thanks to its condition. 10) Synchro Necroquip + Vision into the new Synchro Tuner lvl8 to search Oath and do you full Centurion play without the normal summon Aerial Eater in the GY can special summon itself by banishing the 2 Engravers if you need an additional lvl6 body. You can even play Cross Sheep and make your lvl12 + a spare body into a lvl10 synchro this way when Aerial Eater is summoned because Sheep will revive Primera. However extra deck is too tight. If you need a lvl4 or lvl6 body on the opponent's turn without using Aerial Eater, when you use Sequence for Eater (step 5) you shuffle back double Engraver and leave Requiem and Lacrima (lvl4) in the GY (Agnus will just revive Lacrima in step 8). Then on the opponent's turn you can use Lacrima's quick effect to revive Requiem and requiem's quick effect to summon either Lacrima (she shuffles itself in the deck) or Engraver (all are in the deck) to get a LIGHT lvl4/6 on demand for a Chaos Angel play with Trudea or any lvl10 using Atrii/Primera. Lacrima will also chainblock and mill Engraver for followup playing around stuff such as a Sauravis if you happen to face Voiceless.

@@michaelwilliams310 I forgor to add that if you don't want to use the normal summon (trudea line) and you happen to have any double handtrap like Blossom etc, you can normal summon that handtrap and go into Lacrima or normal summon the Vision Resonator itself. This allows you to get 1 Engraver on the board to be used as Synchro Material. If you use Phalanx as fodder instead of an interruption, you can link Auxila + Primus into Closed Heaven then use Tract to fuse Sequence + Engraver + Heaven into Desirae then use Phalanx in the end phase to revive Auxila and setup your Primera. It's so bad Primus was nerfed to activate only on Synchro Summon, this setup would have allowed to add followup and a pop during the opponent's turn.

Don't play map, please don't

@@josecorrea8839 But why though?

It's like saying to play only one witch in snake eyes, even if you draw 2 witchs or witch + wanted you just removed the need to choose which card to send

that doesnt make map good, that's the bare minimum for WF to function *without* interruption. the argument for a card cant ever be "well at least you can get rid of it". that's why cards like black goat are very strong in runick/wf - it doesnt matter if youre going first or second and the card retains value regardless of whether its in hand or grave. map in grave does nothing

i think the millennium cards are generally quite strong, but something like an ogre trades one for one unless youve drawn both golem and sengenjin. if you get to the point where you make closed heaven and requiem then you check for ash and nib because if they dont have nib they will ash req to not lose to high king. if they have nib but not ash they might hold ash and nib on necroquip engraver. if they have both ash and nib its possible they still ash requiem, in which case its probably the hardest to play around this engine does discard a lot, but it is not neg; meaning you always get back the cards you discard - through reset from grave or wanted draw or witch search. the main advantage isnt syngergy, its just that the cards are better than most other cards you could play. there are also other advantages in 'checking for' hand traps before committing to your other engines, which is a lot harder and high rolly in pure WF

@@BimYGO However WF is a deck that thrives on having very specific combinations of cards, Deception's discard and then Witch's discard as well that's already 2 unknowns that might've been crutial combo pieces. Getting Ogred on Deception is super hard since they trade 1 for 2. Id very much just combo off with a single card with the Millennium engine and check for handtraps that way. It just seems that the Azamina variant still loses to the same things and even adds more weaknesses with the discards for cost

@@MrWelsz i dont think youtube comments is the best place for a proper discussion on this, but if you follow roadoftheking youll see that white forest has extremely low representation overall, so we dont have any substantial ROTA data on which WF variants perform better than others post ROTA in the tcg its quite clear that pre rota wf is almost only successful as a runick variant i dont agree with your breakdown of the card economy on azamina in wf since the wanted engine works with toys the same way wf does, and the millennium cards in my opinion make FS MANDATORY in white forest (this particular video is because people requested azamina wf without fs) in fact, there is nothing better you can possibly make with millennium besides closed heaven, and if you get ashed on that you are at 4k lp with 4 cards in hand hoping to still be able to play throughh a 2nd or 3rd hand trap. if you instead opt for rabbit, e.g. going 1st, you make wf play into nib much harder when it normally doesnt play into nib that hard to beginwith i agree with you on deception being hit is bad though , and this will definitely matter if people are playing both ash and ogre if i had to bet, id say that runick will still be the best version next format, or wf toy with a very large fiendsmith package, though that does play into droll badly

@@BimYGO that actually makes sense ! Thanks for the insight and engaging in the discussion !

the version with FS plays around nib much better because you make silvia on summon 4 and then go directly into high king (or desirae) before committing any WF resources. the way you play around nib when youre not doing those things is the way you sequence your plays. for example, if youre just making gallant granite on summon 7 and the other stuff youve made before then was just climbing into rciela or diabell, most people will just hold nib because there is no negation threat. if youve (for example) searched nib and veiler with granite and rciela and then you make a little knight - not only should you have woes,nib,veiler at a bare minimum, but you can also just SP dodge the nib if they nib you earlier because they see that you are resource laddering, you will struggle more the purer the deck is, whereas having other engines usually gives you more extension

deception, but if you dont play the wanted engine you wont see deception nearly as often cuz youll have to hard draw it

i dont like it because it requires a bit too much set up for the 'when' effect. that said, the trap might make it worth it if everyone else is on azamina because the opponent's cards can also trigger regina

on omega there will be much more meta and better quality gameplay once rota is legal in ranked, and i will upload then

@@BimYGO yeah that's to be expected. Have you thought about incorporating your community to play against so you can set up scenario based plays to portray the deck playing through certain scenarios and choke points? Organic is always better, but, I'd argue that as we learn the deck as a community it'd be useful to see those plays as we develop.

@@alexandercole4336 id like to do a tournament but dont have time to organize it yet

yes - but then you have to be very careful with your resource management because WF wont have synergy with the sends besides their own tales/woes, which they usually search and dont draw the advantage would be more non engine space or potentially adding in a different engine

i would like to test it in a breaker version but its hard to settle on breakers before the format settles a bit after rota release

They do not need to bridge, diabellstar, wanted and deception are starters to azamina plays, while astellar and elzette are starters for white forest, so most hands you will be able to play both lines, if one gets stopped you have the other available

@@msrodrigues2000 of course they need to bridge? at that point playing azamina in this deck is stupid, it costs more than snake eyes, is less consistent, needs more resources and is weaker

@@silpheed4346 if this is your first time seeing one of my videos you might not know this, but 99% of my videos are on WF, and that is the reason. to actually respond to your point: if you want to play the best deck then you should play the best deck. i think that's self evident and its not why i make videos

@@BimYGO no i actually am subscribed to you and watched a lot, I just believe azamina isnt good in this deck, the new centurion support is more useful, im just saxing that these two don Synergize well enough to warrant being the most expensive Deck in the format

​@@BimYGO Also I dont play Snake eyes myself, my Point was mainly if you try playing other decks besides meta as actual contenders for events, you need to have a reason to, and making this deck worse snake eyes isnt the way for example. With centurion for example your endboard is almost completely unbreakable compared to other decks. With Runicks you can conpletely counter some strategies etc. Adding azamina is the same as just playing and Adventurer engine if all you want is an omni. Maybe if we get a sinful spoil that works eith WF then its great, currently its not worth all the space it takes imo. i wasnt saying your Video was bad, I watch all of them, i just think there are better variants

based on the deck attributes the charmer has to be either lyna or dharc, and those work well with selene too. i think i would cut unicorn for it. but if everyone is on azamina post rota then dharc could take their az silvia and you can use the omni yourself. i feel like playing both lyna and dharc would really squeeze the ed space so im not sure what id cut for that

Babrad the goat

" WF haven't got an OSS of their own to tie them with Diabelstar" this.... it's the same freaking lore with 0 synergy cards.... how konami.... how... and the inevitable limitations on wanted (no chance it won't get limited soon) and maybe even diabellstar (happened in OCG already tho they always do consistency hits instead of straight bans) completely ends the decks it feels like...

Chaos angel is close enough and more versatile + easier to make since it doesn’t require a tuner

going first you use the bodies for linking. going 2nd i do think it is an option. it is potentially a counter to spooky dogwood if people continue to play that. perhaps i would cut unicorn for it, but you should keep in either selene or unicorn for sure for the access line, and then selene is probably better

@@marvisgraves1192that is true! I was thinking more for the 7+ 4 synchro

@@BimYGOdid the access line came up a lot? The synchro 6 is almost otk right with diabel is gg? Have you also tried it with a small kash engine?

@@alainvandamme972 i havent found space for the kash engine, though it might be doable on breakers. the access line comes up once you draw azamine cards cuz then selene has spell fuel for the link climb. i definitely think access is good

Yeah i paused 5 seconds before zarc actually wiped the field to comment lmao

dharc and lyna are the charmer options cuz of the deck attributes. dharc can take their az silvia after it used its negate, but fitting in 2 more cards is harder than just 1. cross sheep is an interesting idea so i might test that, but i dont like that it requires you to have a fusion live for it to get value

You mean you and your dogs will be sharing canned food for the next 5 months?

@@AM-gt1ep time to share Vienna sausage and spam

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hmm charmer could be useful- would be dharc or lyna for sure. not sure if im sold on masq tho; its not part of the accesscode climb and going first i think id value rabbit over masq every time, esp if i can make sp under rabbit (but then unlikely to have an extra body to make masq+sp - and making sp with masq and rabbit isnt efficient)

Whelp i got spoiled for that but it's on me... Another funny interaction is negating your own Zarc then as soon as the opponent searches activate Trickstar Reincarnation and have Zarc's pendulum effect handloop the opponent.

the bare minimum FS engine is one engraver in main and that's it - then closed heaven, requiem, necroquip, w high king in the ED. with a larger fsmith engine i think you might be forced into breakers because of space not sure on hand traps vs breakers in rota because we havent seen the meta representation yet

it works if you only care about being able to summon a single monster, but the resource loop is better if you cycle through 2 in the combo. it might be that you play a deck or a line that needs the omninegate immediately and so you ddont care about the resource loop as much, but 2 is definitely better

@@BimYGO for sure thanks for the explanation, keep up the great content 👌👌👌

Yes

Yup trigger effects can resolve in situations like this because the card isn't 'negated' while it's fd

its hard to get good quality gameplay before ranked goes live on ladder, but ill see if i can get some decent unrakned gameplay

Thank you for the vid, I’m studying this along with my exams

If you are playing FS, I suggest you have searchable removal on demand since you play the 2nd Tract by running at least 1 Santa Claws and Archfiend Eccentric. It works really well in the side.

@@babrad i have been testing the archfiend and the santa claws and found it to be okay, but only really as the first play of the turn the biggest benefit of the fs stuff in az imo is just that murcielago+witch can make closed heaven - i havent found any other link 2 thats remotely close to as good. rabbit is probably the next best but only when going first and its substantially worse than the closed heaven play. going 2nd ive found knightmare phoenix to be an okay placeholder link 2, possibly cerberus as well - though sp is more generic than both and gets the trigger cuz of the mats. i heavily dislike maining rabbit targets because of the dice roll, but i think its a big enough improvement from immediately going sp to where you probably have to. re the ra/golem strat, someone in disc pointed out that 'the true sun god' searches ra and then remains on field after so its both a wf send as well as more copies of ra, which is substantially better than golem vs the best decks. that said, ra is sometimes not live against lower tier decks and that is worrisome in a more diverse locals environment etc lastly, ive noticed that ra/golem sometimes forces floats or other triggers, so thrust/talents might not be bad to pair

@@babrad i will test cent stuff next. anything in particular you liked about it or ratios you have opinions on?

@@BimYGO if you up Tract to 3 they are even more reliable but it depends on the deck (I play triple in Fiend piles). For FS in WF can you limit the engine to a single Engraver then? You almost always want to access it via Moon for the additional name anyway and the fiendsmith combo itself doesn't lead to neither Azamina nor WF anyway. My experience with the deck is sadly casual playtesting and not as competitive as I could go, because I'm already going with 2 different Yubel variants + Snakeless Fire Kings + Centurion I also dislike rabbit targets going second and in the above decks I don't play rabbit when most lists do. Here the only excuse I can give is having the trap as WF fodder. Very interesting, I like the "True Sun God" tech in concept. With lower tier decks there shouldn't be a problem anyway, only Memento is secretly OP. I've dropped to 1 TTT each and even with more Thrust I didn't like Tales in the end finally cutting it. And I haven't missed it. This is especially true in the Centurion build where I love the combination of Regained + Attri giving me draws similarly to a Fountain every turn. There I use 2 Lub + 1 Mag/Druis/Bald/Saro with both Regained (initially 2 then 1) and Beast. The centurion package was the typical 3 Standup + 3 Oath with 2 Primera + 1 Trudea, then 1 each the other names except Emeth although Cimelia is a bit wonky. For WF, I play 1 Astellar as the 3rd Primera, 3 Elzette, 1 each of the lvl4s and 2 Woes