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Thank you 🌸❤️🌸

“you get a bit of both all the time “…….. ❤❤❤❤❤

I think I must have 15 or 20 fetters. 36 years since massive dose of kundalini blasted me unconscious. Still infinitely far away from any lasting non duality. Kundalini makes me crazy. Shifts the personality very quickly when it gets heated and moving around. Makes the mind manic. Makes the emotions so extreme. It doesn’t seem possible to do this fetter work under such conditions. I’m not avoiding any feeling. It’s flooding through regularly at full tilt. Though I confess it feels way better to stop resisting reality with the “I want this to go away, I don’t want to be crazy anymore” fixation. Letting go of this resistance didn’t make the craziness and emotional hypersensitivity and instability go away. I just let go into it and accepted that I’m this way. And it feels better. But yeah… there’s still the craziness. Thanks for the talk. Very interesting. It helped a bit.

???It's the same for everyone but they experience it differently???

Can you find division in awareness/experience?

Thanks Ilona 🙏 Harri is amazing

I enjoyed this, and Harri’s personal perspective on self-realization and awakening and deepening was interesting.

His view is the opposite of how IT is. He says “you have to develop the self”… and that realization is always personal. He says there is a creator.. His view is an expanded view of egoic consciousness itself talking. The “I” is an illusion generated within the neural networks of the brain. There is no “I” or self that can awaken. There is no self to realize anything. Such a waste of time to listen to his brain chattering away about its own story about itself.. 🙏😉

Great interview. Ilona you are looking so beautiful!! ❤

Great interview and very interesting. Thank you both!

Great Interview. Very direct pointing.

Wish there was a higher quality microphone 😂❤ to capture the most awesome things you're talking about more clearly

Hey Ilona - I'm very happy I've stubled upon your channel. These sessions are very moving. I have a question - what if I'm asking the sensation about the message it carries, but what it comes up with is the story from life (in this case: guilt and sadness) - and what it "says" circles around the specific story and person that the mind associates with these feeling - but it's way harder to see and feel the sensations/feelings "naked", as they are, without that overlay or context - even though this is very likely something older? Idk if I'm super clear here but the question is: should I try to somehow set aside the story associated with these feelings (how?) or conversely, welcome the associated thoughts/ narrative, the memory-based fantasy and let it play itself out, and perhaps then something more "pure" will show up? Am I worrying/judging unnecesarily about this being a "pure" Deep Listening message? And should this process be done from a particular place (eg. only if I've seen through self)? Thank you in advance for all possible feedback 🙏

So true!❤

Beautiful!

You are so right my dear😇🙏💗Subscribed for sure^^

I loved loved the meditation!

Thank's for sharing, so be it, is great and I'm pretty much ok with that except when I have an argument with my 18 year old daughter. BANG, hit by a truck! I'm totally lost, looking for a way to be ( a mother maybe) instead of just being. Fear comes and I just withdraw from what it feels like her enormous power over me. Then I need to recharge but if i could be fine with so be it in the moment of the argument there would be no need to recharge, no loss of energy. I would like to be able to just laugh at myself here but I'm not there yet. So this pattern has been going on for 18 years, could be time to cut trough it. The meditaion is very relaxing, laying outside on the ground doing it must be wonder-powerful but it's a bit cold here now. ♥😃

oh, so great, thank you so much for this guiding through and the beautiful giving up meditation ❣

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so much love...

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Thank you for watching! Let me know if enjoyed the meditation. ❤

beautiful

suprised to hear such a talk in non duality...who is going to heaven...?...as if heaven a place out there...

The thing about there being spiritually aligned shame and wrong individual shame doesn't make sense. Shame is cultural conditioning, a kind of suffering inflicted to elicit a behaviour of an individual. I can't see how it could be there without the conditioned cultural value being implicit in it. And if someone is deconditioned as many say they are, where's the shame going to come from?

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Such a great, jovial and honest conversation 💜

Loved listening to this. Thanks Ilona and everyone else who contributed to the conversation. Great inquiry! 🙏🏻❤️

I am a psychologist and I can tell you that this can be took as it is for educational purposes, on how to be there with emotions for ACT Acceptance and Commitment Therapy), one of most advanced approaches in psychotherapy.

Thanks for watching! If you have a question you are welcome to come to the next Zoom meeting, it’s free! Or write your question in comments and I will answer it at the next meeting and post it later on my channel. You can find out the dates and times on my website ilonaciunaite.com/events ❤

Thank you Ilona for this, I'd forgotten how great the meeting was so very good to hear it all again. ♥😃

I love it when a new episode drops - this one was perfectly timed and all the sharing was exactly what I needed to hear. Much love to you all ❤