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thanks for uploading this.

i transfer lots of VHS tapes using Avermedia ADVC-300 and JVC video corrector CX-7 as well as VHS decode with Dooms day duplicator with RF capture form Video head directly.

Interesting take to be sure. I think to properly debunk the actual result, you'd need to have a capture sample by following the tutorial versus what you'd consider to be an ideal method on the same starting content. You'd probably want to zoom way in (like 4x) so that details are more visible on TH-cam without the compression washing out the details on each. The retrotink in this capacity is the actual ADC (analog to digital converter) The HDMI capture card placed after it is really just storing the "already digital" stream it made with various settings depending on how you want to capture. I don't think RetroRGB gets a kickback from Retrotink for these videos, I think they are just trying to show some functionality of a device that many of their user base already has. Yeah, sounds like they could have improved upon the settings, but doesn't mean it isn't a good device for the purpose. While originally designed for gaming, it has an FPGA at its heart which is basically hardware emulation and this is what broadcast TBCs used as well for most of their TBC heavy lifting back in the day. I'd wager modern FPGAs are better on all counts in terms of processing power and efficiency. The "trimming/cropping" that is probably a bit of a misnomer - most likely it is just blanking/masking the "trimmed" areas to solid black. I don't think the retrotink can output a resolution of 1900x1070 as an example, or would do so without further developer setting modifications - most HDMI devices wouldn't like that and may not display that at all, let alone be able to capture it. I assume you have a Sony FXE-120 Mixer there based on how it looks - Checked the data sheet and that uses 8 bit color depth and 4:1:1 chroma subsampling for its processing which negates any advantages of capturing in 10 bit after that. I've seen other similar mixers go as low as 4:1:0 chroma subsampling, so that's something to watch for. Agree that the settings used in the tutorial may not have been ideal, but the functionality could still be there if you were to set things up correctly and if you are a gamer that already has one - so sounds like you could make a better tutorial for the same device haha. The other advantage of having a TBC inside something like the retrotink is fewer analog to digital and digital to analog conversions in the chain. One single analog to digital conversion is ideal. Each one you have is a (hopefully small) "generation loss". Case probably hasn't been made yet that it is the most cost effective or has better performance compared to alternatives as not too many direct comparisons against other popular video chains are out there.

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This is the reason VHS was invented..

Here is the thing though, Not all people want to keep or capture lossless and process on the computer or have the know how, I would say the majority, Yes the proper way is to seek a good VCR with line TBC and output S-Video, capture into 480i AVI 4:2:2 and keep these master files for future processing. So the video you are criticizing is not technically wrong, it is just one of the ways of doing it, I was criticized for my workflow but I do experiment and learn to find out for myself, this is how it should be, There is no such "The best method to capture analog video tapes", It is goal based not method based.

I think that there is a happy medium here to be found. I agree that Mr RetroRGB is stepping into a field of expertise that he doesn't have enough knowledge to be an authority on. However, "propaganda" and "shill" are I think not factual statements to make about him. He has affiliate links because that's how you make money in a post adpocalypse TH-cam. He has affiliate links to other products on videos where those products are featured. He also mentions at the start of the video that this solution is meant for people who already own a Tink or to put it another way, don't buy a Tink if your only goal is recording analog media. It's just not the same as, for example, the whole rent a PC scam that Gamer's Nexus recently covered where all these creators were paid directly to give specific talking points about the service, many of which were false. This is a guy who, most likely because he is misinformed or ill-informed, thought that this solution was good and made a video about it. So misleading would be a more apt term IMO (but that's not as clickbaity is it?). The idea that the RetroTink products would be good for movies and tv shows is not something that is prominently promoted from Mike Chi. The only mention of it I could find on the website is this blurb all the way down in the FAQ section; quote "Movies -- the goal of the TINK products has always been games and games first, but we are already adding movie oriented features such as BFI film projection simulation, inverse telecine and 24 Hz restoration." There is no mention here about using it to record either. All that being said, I also think that it isn't crazy in some scenarios to use a RetroTink to digitize analog media. I'll give my own experience as an example. I am a retro gaming enthusiast so I already own a RetroTink for that. It's a godsend for up-scaling retro video games to be played on modern TVs. There are other products that also do a fine job like the OSSC or the venerable Framemeister but I went with the Tink. I also already owned an Elgato capture card because my friends and I thought we would get into streaming years ago and never really did. My family has a decent amount of old home movies and I wanted to archive them so I used the tools I had on hand and was satisfied with the result. Is it the greatest rip of those home movies ever? Probably not, but it's satisfactory for preserving these sentimental moments in a digital format as tapes don't last forever. I think that saying that the output of the RetroTink is "shit" for analog media is something that I disagree with. Is it the best? No. But it's satisfactory. I don't like calling it shit the same way I don't like it when audiophiles shit on people for using MP3s. At the end of the day, if I, the person consuming the media is happy with the results then who cares. I do agree that when you're talking about archiving media, especially media that has never been re-released, then I fully agree that you should use the Doomsday Duplicator and properly decode and format the RAW data after the capture and especially especially when you are going to be sharing that archive with others. But for home, individual use, then it isn't a big deal that it is or isn't the "best." That is perhaps the biggest mistake in the RetroRGB video; not being clear that for true archival purposes you should use something like the doomsday duplicator that captures RAW data that can be decoded and processed later. Finally, I think that being as inflammatory as you were wasn't productive to the conversation around this issue. I get that you are upset but I think that coming to the table in good faith and perhaps even reaching out to RetroRGB or Mike Chi for comment and dialog would have been more productive in moving towards a future where people are more well informed on how to properly archive analog media. In that world, perhaps RetroRGB would release an updated video with better information and/or Mike Chi could make a post to the RetroTink blog making it even more clear that the RetroTink products are not meant for archival backups of analog media. Sorry for the long post but I felt that there were times you were being unfair and wanted to correct those moments. I very much appreciate people like you who have the knowledge and tools to properly archive old/lost media. The work you and people like you do is invaluable.

Smug going hard in the paint on this one!

Hey man, this is a very interesting video! Lots of great info. I'm currently going down the rabbit hole of analog video archival capture (specifically VHS and S-VHS tapes), and I've done more reading than I could ever want to on the different workflows... an old windows XP computer and the period correct hardware and software, or the currently available USB analog capture cards (IO data), or analog to HDMI conversion and HDMI capture card (e.g. retrotink), or analog to SDI conversion and SDI capture, or analog to firewire conversion device then capture (I do have a windows 7 laptop with firewire port), or why not a CRT TV and just play the tapes when I want to watch them :) Anyway, I'm curious as to what your typical process is for capturing analog s-vhs video while retaining the most 'information' from the original source as "reasonably" possible? Not sure I'm smart enough to figure out the radio frequency methods like vhs-decode.

I just randomly remembered this movie and I remember renting it from my local blockbuster with streetfighter or ninja scroll. My parents just thought I was watching "cartoons" lol good times. Thanks for the upload. Now adding it to my collection

my husband collected many of these and still has them!

the soundtrack is on internet archive

So I bought like the old version of topaz like two years ago they used ffmpeg and just bwdif. their AI block after generally reduced the ssim quality need to write up but yeah maybe the new stuff is better the old stuff sucked tbh.

you really need to calm the down. The profiles for VHS 480i output are just for those that already have a retrotink. Worked perfectly for me. My home videos look great and I still have full 480i MOVs of all my tapes. I didn't deinterlace through virutaldub, I used StaxRip.

I wish I saw this video before I bought the tink 4k 🤦‍♂️ All that money down the drain. Thanks for uploading this vid.

to be fair, Mike Chi has never recommended the retrotink for VHS transfer, and in the discord, most people who ask about it are recommended to look into the domesday duplicator instead

... this is cinema.

All people in this threads are their parents problem.

why nobody talk about the HDPVR Rocket ? i use it for analog video capture and it's work great the only fault is that since I am European, I have to go through a device that converts the composite signal into component since the rocket only accepts NTSC composite, in my case I go through a Pioneer DVR-545HX for the conversion

You use SRESTORE on every tape? I've been using fpsdivisor=2 or frate=(frame here) depending on what the video looks like. A lot of my tapes have digital elements & ghost frames layered on top of the anime so I usually just go for 29.97 & say (screw it, that looks like the raw mkv did) unless it's very clearly a movie. Having the opening or the credits of an anime break because they shift from 23.976 to 30 just doesn't seem like a good trade off so I switch between the two depending on what it looks like (unless it's very clearly a digital anime, but that's been rare in my experience)Edit 2: Damn, maybe I really should be using deflicker, that might have been bottlenecking me.

YESSSSS, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT DOING THIS. Thank you for covering the issue with the retrotink propaganda.

this is what news channels should be airing

Great classic anime. Such a weird ending though. Was fhere supposed to be a continuation? Like Yuuki just up and dies cause he was "tricked". The Demon King just chilling in some dude with no resolution?

This happens from time to time. Trash Anime no one sees has an awesome soundtrack. The Millionaire Detective has a good Opening but the credits song is awesome.

Hey dude Ik I’m a year late but can you plz tell me the name of the animation in this vid??

Man, the VHS transfer of this is SO bad. Very happy you uploaded this.

Somebody. Put out a hiitt on these cupid stunts

As an "oldtaku" who started watching anime back in the early 90's, I'm eternally grateful to the dedicated fans, who went to such great lengths to give us the chance to watch series we might not be able to otherwise.

Ooo nice sony fxe

what an excellent find the colors are super vibrant

your channel a gold mine and honestly goals for my collection

Bruh I remember. <3

I heard this film is practically "The Last American Virgin (1982)" in anime ova form.

I dont mean to disturb with the unrelated comment, but do you know the good methods of transferring a mini-dv tape to digital format? I have a Canon ZR900 and tried to use the fire wire to no avail as windows 10 just tells me its broken drivers or something.

it wouldn't have been a period-accurate OVA without the bathtub cheesecake show.

Now...there's more reason to watch this OVA. It's unrelated but the episode of a recent show called Ultraman Arc called 'Goodbye Rin' where one of the characters Rin met with an old mentor of hers whom she hasn't seen since high school, decided to investigate a leaker who is conducting prohibition of dead Kaiju cells. I'm pretty sure you know where this is heading. Please go check out that episode since it's a pretty good companion piece to this OVA as it shares the same themes and such.

What was up with that waiter grabbing Bro’s ass and why did Bro look like he lowkey liked it?

Such an amazing collection. It brings me great joy to see people still appreciating the times of scarcity but love for anime and similar media in general. Take care of it

I don't know what this is but this woman gives off a peaceful aura. I feel relaxed having this on the background.

do you have those 6tbs of amvs uploaded anywhere ? im kinda curious

Great video! :)

please gravure video from then AKB48 members like mariko shinoda & tomomi itano

Just found a gem of a channel

She is really pretty! I have been enjoying the Gravure vids you been putting up.😄

I was looking for some FXE-120 assistance, are you on Discord chief? And great video, very well paced and informative.