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just curious about the little lip at the bottom. Is that like a landing area for the swarm? Nice video!

Thanks Much 😊

I build all my equipment in steps

A few years ago, I went with the Layens system where I had to make my own frames. It turned out I had enough scrap 2 by 6 pine from a construction site to complete 38 frames. It would have been nearly impossible to order 3 dozen frames, so I was happy to make my frames from scratch. I had a shop full of all sorts of hand and power tools, so it was a no brainer for me. My time was my own, I should add.

I wanted to have just a very deep frames for broodboxes having size of 2 boxes (full frame which is 9 9/16" 241mm approx. and the ideal frame which is 5 3/4" 144mm approx.) So by brood box will be in 2 8 frame boxes, but I put only 7 frames which will be having height of 385mm. This will be equivalent to 12 frames, but you're dealing with only 7 frames. The goal is to work with 8 frame supers which will be easier to handle and at the same time 7 frame broodbox which is equivalent of 12 frames for a strong colony. But the time spent is a killer. I currently between contracts but I can't work for for $10. I wish I could.

You also didn’t factor in the cost of shipping. I’m sure the cost to ship 150 assembled frames and weight would be pricey unless they offered free shipping. This would dramatically change the cost per frame

It occurs to me that weighing the two different boards would establish if more oil is absorbed by one over the other. Also have to wonder why you don't submerge-soak for more than 20 minutes?

I built my first 3 bait hives in 2019 following basically the same process. @beecatcher6653 has a link to his instructions on his channel but he has gone silent about 3 years ago. My first year beekeeping was 2019 so I didn't have any used comb. So my first year was a bust. So what did I do my second year? I built 3 more. Now that I had used brood comb I caught 3 swarms. I did mess one bait hive up some how. I think that I built the sides using the bottom board as the frame rest was only about ¼". I finally corrected the issue this afternoon. By taking my multi-tool and cutting the side to the correct length.

Just include a link in the description next time… saves lives.

Hope your hand is ok now

the website listed is no longer working. do you have a new website?

Is the attractant the same all across the states?

I didn't see a calculation for shipping costs which, nowadays, is about the same as the cost of the frames, essentially doubling the price. No thanks! I'll make my own.

Wish you had a regular video showing how its made. Step by step...or do you? Would like to see it. They're beautiful! Might be out of luck on you commenting. Doesn't look like you answered past people who also asked questions...

Will be cool if you could add metric system as well in the following videos.😊

Thank you so much. That video was so helpful and allowed me to build my own (albeit to Australian specs). The way you used the handles to create space for the frame edges was genius!

I want to this box

good job sir!

WOW, 5 years later and they are selling for $4.00 each.

Could you use 15/32 plywood and still use your measurements?

Didn't the total hours spent cutting and fitting together work out to more that 14 hrs?

Did you figure cleanup and diposal?

Honestly, I just screengrabbed the Kelleys Bees page at the 12:53 mark and ordered from there. Because It's a nice price and save me the labor, time and occasional mistakes I would make building my own. It's one thing to be an accountant. It's another to presume 100% accuracy and 0% waste.

I made a four or eight frame trap with a similar idea, but instead of using a removable frame rest the side of the hive fits in like a puzzle and slides out using two 45 degree cuts. So you slide the portion of the one side out, push the frames in and slide them to the opposite wall, then place the additional four frames on top. Yours is so much simpler and accomplishes the same thing with less of a headache and it's probably more durable too. Wish I saw this video first.

Beautiful work !

I believe in your calculations you included the time to put these frames together in your final price and if I'm not wrong and you're purchasing them Prada cost that was frames night put together so unless I missed something in the equation that has to be back out based on based on trying to find the purchase price of the frames unassemble I believe the price that you were quoting for the buying those frame pieces bulk was a price for unassemble and then you assemble them and keep up with your time for assembling them and added it to the call which would I believe the incorrect that line item would be a separate line item I may not have been paying attention well enough and I may have missed where you change that out but I don't think I did I believe that you faced your figures on the purchase price of unassembled frames being a little less than $2 and you actually put together the frames and had that cost in your equation which means you would have to compare your calls to purchasing a symbol frames will be interesting to hear your reply maybe I missed that line item or the deduction for that line item

Drywall screws are designed to break off easy

Great video. Very informative and easy to follow.

You indicated the wrong size on your router bit. The shank is 1/4", but the cove bit you show and use is 3/4" cutting circumference.

Hi there, just wondering if you have to cut comb of the bottom, why use a trap that is deeper than the hive they are going to? God bless you!

For my your trap is overengeneered, it's like a hive the way you do it.

I noticed your frames aren't wired, wiring would simply make the whole process prohibitive, but even in saying that, I do make my own frames because I enjoy it.

If you paint it before you put the aluminum on top it may be easier. Also taking it down with removable top seems like a pain. On mine the top hinges on screws(cheap hing) and a cheap snap done clasp on the other side for easier operations. I like the plastic spiners on my entrance hole. Makes it easy to close when taking down or if you see a ball seen during season and have a swarm trap in your vehicle you can put the same in the swarm trap and turn the spinner to queen excluder setting so you can leave the box sit and the bees you didn't get into the box can find their way in to their queen and you can get them all by the evening and close them up with just turning the spinner. Squirrels eat chew them up I'm experiencing with solutions for that. Hot sauce mixed into the paint did not help. Next try will be wrapping with hard wire cloth. Why use pocket screws on part ot it then nails on others?

This video is four years old now and lumber prices have gone up as have the prices of frames. Since I am retired my time is spent doing what I want. Also, I own a sawmill and can make my own lumber. Making frames for myself is a no brainer. My question is, can I produce them efficiently enough and in large enough quantity to make it profitable?

just revisited this and have noticed you have an error in the first calculation at 5.58mins into the vid - cutting side bars should be 337 mins not the 237 mins shown (100 mins short)

I love honey.

Damn I like how you used a drill with a buffer to apply the board butter. Im going to try that.

Can you send please the link for mineral oil which you used? I cannot find any mineral oil of this ammount for reasonable price, small cup of mineral oild aprox 15-25e seems little crazy for me

I don't know what your vision for your hives are but if you go with double brood boxes and add more than two honey supers...you're going to need a ladder.

too funny click on kreg jig and tight bond glues come up.

liters? where are you Europe? seeley and others that have studied bees here in the US did measurments in gal not liters........

Let's say, how long did it take for your frames to arrive? Did you take the days lost while in transit into consideration?

Nice work

Such a simple way to get your handles centred, saved me at least 20 minutes of friggen around to set my stop blocks. Thank you for making this video.

Do you have written plans for the folks who don't have time to go through the whole video again?

Outstanding video!

Ahhhh... 5 sheets for 125 dollars...

Do you think this technique would be suitable for wooden combs? Sans the electric buffer of course cuz they'll just fly everywhere lol.

Some accountant you are - you didn't attach your spreadsheet to the video as a download so we can audit your work. (just kidding though I wanted it to use to evaluate my efforts in different size batches) That said - accounting error! - The sheet your showing at minute 7:35 in the video - your top section for Side Bars your total should be 330 minutes, not 237minutes - your not including the Bandsaw 93 minutes in your summation. - so that's another hour and a half your missing from your work so the time in hours is 5.5 instead of 3.95. I knew that had to be wrong because I know comparatively sidebars are about the longest process depending on how much effort you want to put into the ears of your top bars. Also, your total process hours is not including your Assembly hours - so in addition to missing some of the time in sidebars, it is another 1.83 hours short. Your total time should be 16.18 hours and your time per unit would be 6.47 instead of the 5.85 you show. - that of course changes the rest of your analysis as well, and at $10/hr makes your frames about 0.20 more expensive each or $1.43 per frame - and should amount to about a savings 0.30 a frame - not 0.50 as you show. Looking through the comments I see others have pointed this out as well. For me, the real savings is collecting scrap framing lumber from my area and so my material costs for frames are near zero (still need glue, brad nails and foundation). It is the box building I expend money on because I can't find that lumber for free.

I dont need such a detailed break down, I already know its cheaper to make them IF you have the skill and know how. If not you're going to pay for someone elses time, material and shipping