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A custom town sword by Arms and Armor
Today we take a look at a custom rapier we've just finished. This sword form dates from the early to mid-1500s and is a relatively early form of rapier with a shorter blade than became popular over the next century. The outer guard is characterized by a knuckle bow and two tongues or nails that protect the hand, while the inner guard is an early form that consists of a single stirrup, bent at 90 degrees parallel to the blade.
This hilt style is intermediate between a Norman type 16, shown above, and a type 20, shown below. The main difference between this style and both of the Norman types is that the forward qullion arm becomes the knuckle-blow on this example, whereas the type 16 has no knuckle bow and the type 20 has both a knucklebow and forward quillion separately.
This type of 'in between' form is by no means uncommon, as typologies such as the Norman, Petersen, and Oakeshott typological systems are not exhaustive, but rather are attempts to identify common features that can then be used to compare actual examples.
The classification of this piece as a rapier or sidesword is debatable, so we've opted to call it a townsword, a civilian weapon to be worn easily at the side capable of both cuts and thrusts with equal facility. The minimal inner guard makes it easier to carry on the belt than later rapiers with larger guards that can cause the weapon to protrude awkwardly while sheathed.
As always, our swords are entirely made by us at our shop in Minneapolis, MN out of 6150 carbon steel, hardened and tempered to 50-52 Rockwell. Our swords and other weapons are made to look, feel, and function just like the historical originals on which they are based. Check out our full line of products here: www.arms-n-armor.com
To inquire about a custom project click here: www.arms-n-armor.com/pages/custom-or-modification-request
Arms & Armor is dedicated to quality and authenticity. Our craftspeople create our full range of historically accurate European weapons by hand in our shop. For over four decades we have worked with museums, collectors, and scholars to develop a deep understanding of European weapons; knowledge we use to make products that exemplify the finest qualities of the very best historic pieces. When we select historic items to reproduce, being pretty isn't enough, they have to move with grace and beauty, and beg to be used when in the hand. These are pieces that feel as good as they look, and that work as well as they feel. Our mission is to craft items that recreate the look, feel, and function of the best historic originals
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Rondel daggers from the Oakeshott Institute and Met Museum
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Examining real historical training swords from the Met Museum
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Doctors Guy Windsor and Nathan Clough Examining an Original 15th Century Longsword
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Today we are happy to host our good friend, acclaimed swordsman, researcher, and teacher Guy Windsor Ph.D. In this video Guy and Nathan examine an original German longsword from the 15th century and talk about how period weapons handle, and what this can teach us about reconstructing the martial arts of renaissance Europe. Check out Guy's website with links to his scholarship, podcast, blogs, b...
A two-headed spear, or Jägerstock
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I am really excited that a class on the jägerstock, or two-headed spear is being offered at the 2024 Western Martial Arts Workshop (WMAW) this September. www.wmaw.us/classes/ This 17th century spear with a sharp head on each end had a reputation as a weapon that would allow a single man to oppose dozens of swordsmen. wiktenauer.com/wiki/Johann_Georg_Pascha#Half-pike_.28J.C3.A4gerstock.29 So, I ...
Custom 16th C Italian Sword
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Here is a video look at a custom Italian side sword we made for a couple of customers over the years. It is an excellent example of the form of sword used in the early Renaissance period. You can check out some other custom pieces we have made in the past here www.arms-n-armor.com/collections/custom-gallery
Scorpion an interesting 16th C style of pole arm.
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In today's vid we check out the Scorpion style pole arm. This reproduction was done as a custom order and one were we replicated an original with a few alterations per the customers request. These excellent pole weapons have several offensive options for attack and we are kind of surprised we do not see more of them in collections and being replicated. This piece was commissioned by Jon Courtne...
War Hammers vs Other Hammers
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Today we take a look at the characteristics that differentiate war hammers from other types of hammers, demonstrate why you shouldn't try to fight with a 12lb sledge-hammer, and why armoring hammers aren't good for driving nails. Check out our war hammer here: www.arms-n-armor.com/products/war-hammer and our main product page here: www.arms-n-armor.com As always, our swords are entirely made by...
Will the mordhau kill you in armor?
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Today we have some thoughts on how striking someone in armor with the pommel of a sword is an effective thing to do. We started thinking about this after watching an interesting video by the HEMA fight breakdown guys: th-cam.com/video/U0pu21IMW2c/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared In this video we take a look at three original gauntlets from the Oakeshott Institute collection (oakeshott.org), try hittin...
A silly look behind the scenes at Arms and Armor
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The Coustel Dagger
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Grip Construction on Medieval Swords
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Maker's Marks on Medieval Swords, and Why We Don't Use One.
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Maker's Marks on Medieval Swords, and Why We Don't Use One.
The Shape and Function of Longsword Grips
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War hammer vs plate armor
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A Custom Saxon-Style Rapier
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A Custom Saxon-Style Rapier
A close look at a custom sidesword/rapier
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A close look at a custom sidesword/rapier
Rondels on Polearms and Other Stuff: Response to Matt Jensen
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Rondels on Polearms and Other Stuff: Response to Matt Jensen
Swords Available Today!
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Swords Available Today!
Wide vs Narrow Rapier Blades. What's the Difference?
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Thoughts on fighting with a glaive...
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New Glaive Discussion Whiskey and Weapons
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New product: 15th Century French Glaive by Arms and Armor
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Comparing two rapier hilts from Arms and Armor
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Comparing two rapier hilts from Arms and Armor

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  • @bilbo_gamers6417
    @bilbo_gamers6417 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    First example is very interesting. Been trying to quantify a sword I designed and have been working on for a while, because it's not very typical, but it seems like the English Longsword there is pretty much identical to what i created.

  • @robertpatter5509
    @robertpatter5509 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    There are ways to fight a man with a rifle and bayonet when you have a Smallsword. They were definitely used in warfare. They even had training manuals for fighting the bayonet. Hint: Your Offhand is useful in grabbing a bayonet. Though I'm sure the Smallsword was not designed with warfare in mind. But more of a civil capacity( urban sword) Whats interesting is General Claude Antoine Hippolyte de Préval made a sword himself. Its an 1882 steel four bar sabre hilt with a thicker triangular 36" Smallsword blade on it. Now thats cool.

  • @wellgaroa
    @wellgaroa วันที่ผ่านมา

    thank you for so much info. if you're selling just a few as a replica collector that's ok. But if your intend to sell a lot of it, it would be better to make a safer and broader tip, just because we can't trust everyone to be reasonable

  • @flyboymike111357
    @flyboymike111357 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Curiously, this design is exactly what I imagined when I heard some people claiming guards could use halberds as fire axes in a pinch. It has the hewing hatchet shaped axe blade, and the billhook style spur. Both invaluable in firefighting in the woods or about wooden structures. But you can also see how it would be an excellent weapon in combat againt street thugs too.

  • @jamievarni1530
    @jamievarni1530 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Careful workmanship. Fine job.

  • @FiliiMartis
    @FiliiMartis 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yea, you're right, it is cool! 👍 I was designing a trainer for myself, and I was thinking of something similar. More Charles V rapier when it comes to the pommel, and a side-ring with a plate, so a closed port instead of the side-finials, all in a Saxony shallow diamond style for the fittings. But I wanted no bottom quillon and a twisted upper one, just like on your piece, so thanks for showing me how it would look. And unlike the Charles V rapier which twists inward, I wanted the end of the knuckle-bow to twist outward to avoid catching in a glove (I'll depend on a heavier glove for hand protection, which is also why I want to keep the area around the quillon block free to it more room when I finger the guard). So again, thanks for helping me visualise the look I had in my mind. 😄 Btw, the blackened fittings are great, and that softness of the lines given by the hand forging elevates your pieces quite a lot (you know it, I know it, everyone that follows you know it 👍). Good job on it!

  • @artawhirler
    @artawhirler 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I actually live in Minneapolis not too far from your shop! I've known about you for many years but I never knew you had a TH-cam channel until five minutes ago! New subscriber! 🙂

  • @gcvrsa
    @gcvrsa 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You're supposed to cut with the end of the sword, not the base of it. It's the speed of the tip, not the mass of the blade, that gives a large sword its power. Kinetic energy equals one half mass times velocity squared.

  • @majungasaurusaaaa
    @majungasaurusaaaa 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please don't compare modern junk with historical maille.

  • @Meevious
    @Meevious 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    5:26 Another major characteristic to heed is tannin content. Ash and limewood are examples of hardwoods (though limewood is not very hard) that are not rich in tannins. Woods like oak, chestnut, cherry (and many more) are rich in tannins, which corrode iron, so they're traditionally avoided for hilting, hafting and handling ferrous tools. This doesn't mean these corrosive woods were never used historically, just that they were generally avoided and for good reason.

  • @Meevious
    @Meevious 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ulfberht had 8 makers marks. When the other makers saw that, they knew he'd run away with it and there was no hope to compete from such a deficit. Other makers marks started appearing once they could feel confident that he was dead and no longer a threat (ironically, the renaissance). I think striking something on the tang is a nice bone to throw the people of the distant future. A nice alternative might be to include a slender non-bio-degradeable slip or insert on the inside of the grip, or if you want punk, you could punch something that doesn't look like a maker's mark, but can be read as an earbleeding audio file. =p

  • @brittakriep2938
    @brittakriep2938 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well into 1970s, in rural german areas you could find fieldguards , payed by vilage, patroling through fields and meadows, usually only armed with a cane/ stick.

  • @SquishyFletcher
    @SquishyFletcher 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That is a beautiful blade. The length really does suit the "town sword" descriptor. It would be a subtle/discreet addition to any gentleman's outfit, for every-day carry.

  • @lukewilliams8548
    @lukewilliams8548 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There's a rapier typology? I'll buy that book sometime soon.

    • @armsarmorinc.4153
      @armsarmorinc.4153 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      AVB Norman, the rapier and small sword, 1460 to 1720.

  • @Josh_Green44
    @Josh_Green44 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's fantastic, lovely "simple" hilt, one of my favorite pommel styles, and the finish on the hilt furniture is perfect. The whole thing looks wonderfully light, as well. I'm not far enough into the video to know if you mention the weight.

  • @lordllewellynofdarkdelight2613
    @lordllewellynofdarkdelight2613 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Truly lovely.

  • @caseco4979
    @caseco4979 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beautiful

  • @Eulemunin
    @Eulemunin 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yay

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    when was the bluing of steel invented?

  • @TheSpanishInquisition87
    @TheSpanishInquisition87 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    😮Wow! That is a really nice sword. I'm jealous.

  • @nothim7321
    @nothim7321 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sometimes, most times, I hate this economy

  • @jeremyjames7899
    @jeremyjames7899 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would be purchase this, great work and thank you for sharing

  • @MrPink-qf1xi
    @MrPink-qf1xi 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That guard is a very well piece of art. Wow I loved that.

  • @richstone2627
    @richstone2627 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice!

  • @jeremyjames7899
    @jeremyjames7899 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Nathan, I so enjoy these videos. Thank you for taking the time to make them. It helps greatly to appreciate your work and what to purchase. May I ask what books you are using for reference and product guide? Thank you and best wishes to you all

  • @jeremyjames7899
    @jeremyjames7899 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi A&A! Love these videos. I’d like to order a few of these but don’t see them on the website. Do you take orders for products you’ve made in the past? Thank you

  • @Xyoss
    @Xyoss 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Guy was on full nerd mode there, fascinated by the sword haha. him and Nathan did a great examine, lovely video.

  • @ahmedbader8410
    @ahmedbader8410 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Iron and steel in those areas in the Middle Ages There were people in the Middle East who were at a very high level in this industry, but there were those who differed in the manufacture of metal and no one told about the secret that made this steel so strong, but that industry disappeared after a while due to the lack of need to manufacture a blade at the time when firearms were discovered and modern weapons became more valuable and swords are not useful if we look in reality how these swords can be able to cut tanks 😂 This is pure imagination, but in the era that was previously based on swords, in this case we can say that Damascus steel, which was smoke silver in color, was the strongest and had superior ability

  • @richstone2627
    @richstone2627 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So I wasn't supposed to throw it at the guy who broke in but targets.

  • @PaulTheSkeptic
    @PaulTheSkeptic 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm interested in the kinds of swordfighting they'd do. I'm working in this D&D character who's a bit of a swashbuckler. Would he carry a buckler shield? I've also seen it where a guy will hold out a sword in front of him and have some kind of dagger or dirk or whatever in the other hand. What's that one all about? Anyone know?

  • @carlhilber2275
    @carlhilber2275 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Got here from some digging, and cant find what I'm looking for despite knowing some exist. How exactly would one differentiate between a composite sword, in the sense that it has been put together from multiple swords over time, as opposed to the composite use of materials in an original part of the sword eg, a composite blade with a harder material on the edge.

  • @bobdole514
    @bobdole514 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where could I go to buy a sword like that? And what would be the price?

  • @carlhilber2275
    @carlhilber2275 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love it. A lot of swept hilts on rapiers tend to be asymmetrical in the most ocd inducing way possible, but this is clean. The design isn't hiding any glaringly cable management problem ready to jump out at anyone unfortunate enouph to look to close. Why isn't this standard, surely it cant be more difficult/ provide less coverage from other hilt designs?

  • @adcaptandumvulgus4252
    @adcaptandumvulgus4252 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sword on a big stick, got it

  • @fyrestars3193
    @fyrestars3193 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What's the potential retail price on a pair of these? I'm looking at buying a new fechterspiel, but i could put that off another 2 years for these. :D

  • @lukewilliams8548
    @lukewilliams8548 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn't know rapiers came in such short lengths.

  • @edi9892
    @edi9892 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd like to point out that not all halberd blades were sharp. Especially small concave ones were crushing implements. Many of them had spearpoints that had some cutting capacity to compensate for it. The extreme case has a saber on top. However, there are also some where they have no blade at all. They tend to be quite light and long.

  • @AdlerMow
    @AdlerMow 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you make a video on medieval short swords and why would someone use them? In portuguese "cutelo" means "cleaver", while in spanish "cutillo" simply means knife. Interesting, hugh?

  • @patrickshannon4854
    @patrickshannon4854 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting

  • @adcaptandumvulgus4252
    @adcaptandumvulgus4252 หลายเดือนก่อน

    File some barbs on the blade & you'll have a fishing spear

  • @NaturalSynthetic777
    @NaturalSynthetic777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a split inside the shaft of the 1st spearhead? Looks like somethings inside.

    • @-ManusAdFerrum-
      @-ManusAdFerrum- 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Rather a piece of the rivet. You can see the hole on the other side.

  • @patrickkelly1070
    @patrickkelly1070 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where can I get one of those t-shirts?

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what type of spear would you consider a compromised design half way in between those 2 ends?

    • @Asertix357
      @Asertix357 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd like to know that too.

  • @richstone2627
    @richstone2627 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like spears almost as much as I like axes. Spears and other polearms ruled the battlefield for thousands of years. Thank you and keep up the good work.

  • @bakters
    @bakters หลายเดือนก่อน

    The boar spear is a specific hunting implement. From what I've seen, the way it's being used is that the dogs immobilize the boar (possibly wounded boar), then the hunter thrusts from close range. But that's not how people *usually* hunt with a spear nowadays. They tend to throw them from an elevated position, though sometimes from the ground too. For that you'd want a slim head, which will penetrate to the other side. You definitely do not want a huge wide blade with a thick shaft, since it will likely stop before it reaches the vitals. I mean, those "fighting spears" do look like a much more efficient thrown hunting spear. And, as all hunters know, getting close is the most difficult part of hunting, so hoping for a two-handed thrust is not realistic at all. Not without a pack of hunting dogs.

  • @FiliiMartis
    @FiliiMartis หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bonus stupid question for A&A... US is a gun country with a strong hunting tradition. Did anyone ask for a boar spear with the clear intent to use it in hunting? How dangerous is it to go against a boar again? Cuz I would love to hear that there's a party in Minnesota that hunts boars with spears. Unless there's a restriction on the ground that it is making the animal suffer needlessly or something, this could be a thing. A proper and full revival of an old lost art in a way that we will never have when it comes to combat.

    • @armsarmorinc.4153
      @armsarmorinc.4153 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check out these past blog posts - www.arms-n-armor.com/blogs/news/a-modern-boar-hunt www.arms-n-armor.com/blogs/news/boar-hunting

    • @FiliiMartis
      @FiliiMartis หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@armsarmorinc.4153 Than you! That satisfies my curiosity. 😇

  • @FiliiMartis
    @FiliiMartis หลายเดือนก่อน

    The winged spear, with the large original proportions you mentioned, is similar to a partizan. Not the same, as the partizan has a more blade like extension than a spear tip, but they do look similar with the wings/hooks at the base. Winged spears are used for boar hunting. And Italians had a tradition when it came to boars, hunting them, and having them as symbols in their local culture such as in Florence (and in fencing we do have "cinghiale porta di...", e.g. boar gate of the... ). Did anyone propose that the partizan was developed from the hunting winged spear? At this point, it kinda seems obvious to me that this mush have been the case.

    • @armsarmorinc.4153
      @armsarmorinc.4153 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are certainly related. The main difference is in the edge geometry where the partisan is more optimized for cutting

  • @FiliiMartis
    @FiliiMartis หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:08 I cannot believe that they copied your spear. You should send them a cease and desist letter. Just search for their email and send it digitally to make it easier on yourself. 😄

  • @VTPSTTU
    @VTPSTTU หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. Do you think that the lesser amount of steel was any factor in the design of the fighting spear tips? As I look at those, I can see that making enough steel to build a broad, thick spearhead for a boar spear for one rich guy might not be a problem. Making every spear head with that much steel when equipping an entire army would be a much bigger problem. I could see where militaries might design their spearheads narrower and shorter so that their smiths could equip more soldiers for the same amount of metal. Along the same lines, can you make the smaller Celtic spears more quickly than you make the big boar spear? If the smiths are equipping an entire army, they will need to be able to produce spearheads quickly so that they can equip more soldiers per day.

    • @armsarmorinc.4153
      @armsarmorinc.4153 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is certainly faster and easier and cheaper to make the smaller ones.

  • @ChristianThePagan
    @ChristianThePagan หลายเดือนก่อน

    Extremely nice and much needed primer on the most important weapon in history👍. However, take a look at the Haunch Wolfegg 'Heerzug' scene you will see several guys in there with winged and toggled boar spears so the line between war spear and hunting spear was blurred, probably because that enormous boar spear has some of the characteristics of a bill or a halberd in that you could chop with it too.