That's quite cool, and the class sounds like a blast! Thank you very much for posting and for your excellent products, fantastic community information, and overall source of positivity in the WMA/HEMA spaces.
Now that's cool. I never heard of nor read about such a spear. When you mentioned taking on 10, 20 or 30 swordsmen it reminded me of the old Kung-Fu theater movies which played in the 80s, yes I'm that old lol. Thank you for sharing your time and knowledge.
I love your videos and products- you guys are fantastic! A bit of additional trivia for you, to whip out at a party and impress someone with: the soft inner bend of your elbow (where you measured from to the tip of your middle finger) is actually called the “cubital fossa”. For no additional cost, I’ll tell you that it’s corresponding part of the knee (also the soft spot where it bends on the back of your leg) is called the “popliteal fossa”. Thanks for the great video!
Pascha wrote that it should be around 4.5 cubits ("Ellen") long or "so long as a man can reach". My understanding is that there were many different cubits in use in 17th-century German lands. It's possible Pascha had one of these established Ellen in mind. If not, for me at 5' 10", 4.5 cubits based on my forearm comes out to around 83 inches while I can reach over my head more like 91 inches with fingers outstretched & feet flat. Anything in that range seems appropriate for the weapon.
Is it possible that the jagerstock was actually meant to be more like an iron-shod quarterstaff (like hiking spikes)? Otherwise what would the context of use have been?
Context? You are a jäger and you constantly walk around your part of the forest alone (well, maybe with an assistant), not to hunt, of course, but to make sure that poachers don’t hunt in your forest (don’t cut down trees without the permission of the forest owner, don’t burn fires , what else can you do illegally in the forest). And it may happen that the violators are planning to resist arrest. Such a stick gives you more weapons than just a sword, which of course you also have with you. It is not as long as, say, the halberds of the city guard (I understand that it should be 180 cm long), but it does not cling to tree branches when walking through the forest. In fact, this is the same boar spear that you use during hunting anyway, so you are very familiar with it, only this model with additional functionality for poking people.
Cool to see double headed spears did also exist in europe. In knew of there existance in china, but not in europe. I have one question wouldn't it make more sense to have one bigger and one smaller spear? I made mine that way atleast and it's a bit like a poleaxe were you have one heavy chopper and one light truster.
George Silver's "short staff" of 8-9ft was also a double-headed spear based on the illustration. In that case, one spike was larger than the other. It's unclear whether it was the forward spike or the butt spike that was larger, but of course the wielder could switch them around as desired.
@@b.h.abbott-motley2427 makes sense if you think about it. It's bassicly like a querterstaff upgraded for war now isn't it. Like with other weapons for war like axes you see 2 different heads for 2 different things why would a double headed spear be any different?
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That's quite cool, and the class sounds like a blast! Thank you very much for posting and for your excellent products, fantastic community information, and overall source of positivity in the WMA/HEMA spaces.
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A flat on the shaft would be a good aid for feeling the indexing /orientation of the spear heads. Make it more intuitive, less visual.
Now that's cool. I never heard of nor read about such a spear. When you mentioned taking on 10, 20 or 30 swordsmen it reminded me of the old Kung-Fu theater movies which played in the 80s, yes I'm that old lol.
Thank you for sharing your time and knowledge.
I love your videos and products- you guys are fantastic! A bit of additional trivia for you, to whip out at a party and impress someone with: the soft inner bend of your elbow (where you measured from to the tip of your middle finger) is actually called the “cubital fossa”. For no additional cost, I’ll tell you that it’s corresponding part of the knee (also the soft spot where it bends on the back of your leg) is called the “popliteal fossa”. Thanks for the great video!
No pressure now. 😅😅
Pascha wrote that it should be around 4.5 cubits ("Ellen") long or "so long as a man can reach". My understanding is that there were many different cubits in use in 17th-century German lands. It's possible Pascha had one of these established Ellen in mind. If not, for me at 5' 10", 4.5 cubits based on my forearm comes out to around 83 inches while I can reach over my head more like 91 inches with fingers outstretched & feet flat. Anything in that range seems appropriate for the weapon.
we agree, spent some time messing with different variations but that range seems to work best.
There are 112 different Elle only in Großherzogtum Baden still in the 19th century for Kurhessen it‘s 40.
Looks great and practical
Is it possible that the jagerstock was actually meant to be more like an iron-shod quarterstaff (like hiking spikes)? Otherwise what would the context of use have been?
Context? You are a jäger and you constantly walk around your part of the forest alone (well, maybe with an assistant), not to hunt, of course, but to make sure that poachers don’t hunt in your forest (don’t cut down trees without the permission of the forest owner, don’t burn fires , what else can you do illegally in the forest). And it may happen that the violators are planning to resist arrest. Such a stick gives you more weapons than just a sword, which of course you also have with you. It is not as long as, say, the halberds of the city guard (I understand that it should be 180 cm long), but it does not cling to tree branches when walking through the forest. In fact, this is the same boar spear that you use during hunting anyway, so you are very familiar with it, only this model with additional functionality for poking people.
Good answer, also a good staff for walking if need be.
Imagine the nutiness if you replaced the average spearheads with two long winged spearheads.
I played with something similar in Chinese martial arts.
Cool to see double headed spears did also exist in europe. In knew of there existance in china, but not in europe. I have one question wouldn't it make more sense to have one bigger and one smaller spear? I made mine that way atleast and it's a bit like a poleaxe were you have one heavy chopper and one light truster.
George Silver's "short staff" of 8-9ft was also a double-headed spear based on the illustration. In that case, one spike was larger than the other. It's unclear whether it was the forward spike or the butt spike that was larger, but of course the wielder could switch them around as desired.
@@b.h.abbott-motley2427 makes sense if you think about it. It's bassicly like a querterstaff upgraded for war now isn't it. Like with other weapons for war like axes you see 2 different heads for 2 different things why would a double headed spear be any different?
definitely could be, Pascha's illustration does seem to show the same sized heads on each end.
Very interesting, but I'm surprised the shaft isn't an oval.
It actually is slightly oval. Hard to see
@@armsarmorinc.4153 Makes sense, thank you.