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tube is such shit - even being there is hazardous - heavy metal particles, 40+ degrees in summer, loud noise - disgrace

This split is effectively already in place , very few trains run from the Charing Cross side to Morden and visa versa

6:30 waheyyy!!!

The Victoria 2 Line (best line)

If it’s a bus, but calling it a metro gets more people to utilise it, then good on you for calling it a metro. Everyone upset over the naming should grow a brain, build a bridge and get over it

As a regular Northern line user I can’t see the logic. I use it everyday so does my wife. She uses via Charing Cross I use via bank. This proposal is nonsense .

Cross rail 2 is a 30 year pipe dream

Yes to a Crossrail 2 video!

Well I'm sure whatever happens it wll cost a lot of money - but it's always essential that London gets whatever it wants - especially as it already gets over half the entire national transport budget allocation for it's 15% of population.

Watching an Avatar is very disconcerting and I couldn't absorb what was bring said and instead focussing on the bizarre facial movements and especially the mouth which seemed to be just opening and closing and not making any words !!

Instead they should remove the platforms at camden town for one of the lines, and then force interchange at euston which makes sense as euston is already being rebuilt for HS2

London gets what London wants.

There are only 6 carriages on one train on the Northern line. If they extend the platforms in all the tube stations, and increase to 10 carriages on one train, then it will be better.

greate informative video but i would lose the background music you really don't need it.

Whatever the new lines are called, can we avoid royalty ? The most recent lines are named for Elizabeth, Victoria and Jubilee, to celebrate the one family we can be quite sure will never use them. There are plenty of people and places we could choose to mark instead.

Noisiest as well! I hate using this line.

If you live in north London on the line, this is a terrible idea. This being said it wont stop the idiot of London, sorry Mayor Sadiq Kahn

They could start by getting rid of the god awful screeching noise anywhere between East Finchley and Leicester Square. The noise must surely exceed the 85dB limit action level as defined by the OSHA

It is amazing how often the word "Metro" is used. Brisbane call their buses Metro and Melbourne call their trains Metro. The only Australian rail system that I believe could currently be referred to as a Metro would be the driver-less trains in Sydney, though that may not even be correctly named. As far as I know the original "Metro" would be the underground train system in Paris France. The new Brisbane metro bus system seems to be quite unique, especially with all electric buses along with all the new stations there. It is just a pity that the Brisbane tram system wasn't retained and upgraded to light rail, like in Melbourne and Adelaide. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how it all works out.

I don't think there weill be a "Southern" line any time soon. One of the main train operators in Southern London ios called Southern...

Moose I’m pleased we got to the bottom of which city you live in. For a while I was concerned it was Melbourne.. Jokes aside, top videos. Thanks

Yes, but which keeps the line colour and what colour is the new line on the map?

Minor thing, but I'd be a bit sad if they got rid of the Leslie Green red-brick tiles at Camden town. The new designs aren't awful, but they could exist in any city in the world - the red brick stations are specifically _London_ .

I take this line every time I need to go into London and it makes more sense as it is. In central London, trains are more frequent as the four branches converge and get less frequent as they split along their branches towards their less crowded endpoints. But I haven't done any research so I'll go with your conclusion 👍

What will these new lines be called. Easy - one will be called the RuPaul line and the other will be called Mohammed line.

I think it's a brilliant idea: thousands of passengers crowding the narrow passages at Camden Town or Euston every day to get to the other branch... What could possibly go wrong?

Hang on ... the infrastructure exists to just splitting the lines (in terms of routing) without rejigging the interchanges. Still crap, but can happen quickly.

SPLITTING THE LINE WILL NOT INCREASE THE LINES TRAIN CAPACITY. TFL DONT GIVE A DAM ABOUT THE STATION AT CAMDEN TOWN THEY HAVE NO PLANS TO MAKE REAL CHANGES UNDERGROUND THEY JUST WANT TO TURN THE WHOLE SITE INTO A SHOPPING CITY ABOVE IT AMD MAKE LOTS OF MONEY FROM SHOP RENTS YES THEY WOULD HAVE TO FIND A PLACE FOR MAYBE MIN OF TWO LIFT SHAFT IF NOT FOUR TO COVER THE 7 FLOORS RETAIL SPACE THEY WANT TO CREATE ABOVE THE STATION AND MORE ESCALATOTRS EMERGENCY STEPS ECT, ECT WHILE NO CHANGES TO THE CURRENT PLATFORM SPACE OR CROSS PLATFORM INTER CHANGE TUNNELS, WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE AT LEST TWO MORE NORTH AND SOUTH THE ONLY SAVING WOULD BE NOT USING THE POINTS AT CAMDEN DOWN AT PRESENT TRAINS CRAWL INTO CT PLATFORM 2 SOUTH BOUND AT 1OMPH THE REASON THIS IS BECAUSE THE COMPUTERS CANT HANDLE TWO TRAIN GOING SOUTH OR APPROCHING THE STN SB AT NORMAL SPEED BECAUSE IT CANT TRUST IT SELF NOT TO STOP THEM IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND RISK A OVER RU,NS, THIS IS HOW PATHETIC THE LINE IS, I COULD GO ON AND AS TO WHAT NEEDS DOING TO THE NORTHERN LINE SEE @KnightSanguinius / @DavidShepheard / WHO HAS ALSO MADE SOME GREAT COMMENTS

I used to work for London Underground in the early 90’s. The plan including the new Underground map with one branch a very light green. The implementation was at the very latest with the new stock to replace existing rolling stock. The planned routes where Edgware- CX - Kennington and MHE/Barnet - Bank - Morden.

In addition to the more important reason of improving the capacity of the lines, the fact that the Northern Line has two very distinct branches passing through central London is VERY confusing to visitors. So, yeah, let's get it done!

Northwestern and Northeastern :D If Angel and Archway end up on the same side...Archangel

I don't support this scheme. Public transport around the two north branches isn't well joined up and the quickest way to get anywhere is the tube which still isn't very quick . This will result in even slower journeys becauss there isn't a direct train any more. Like if you're going from Barnet to the West End, as I often have. Also, all tube lines are crowded. The northern line is only busiest because it's got two separate routes through London. This is a feature, not a bug

A number of stations will see even higher levels of interchange traffic - amelioration would not be cheap or quick . . .

How about an extra spur to the Overground, maybe a line only used at weekends using the bridge over Camden High Street to make a connection from Camden Road, a new station at Camden Bridge and then reopening Primrose Hill to finally join the Lioness Line of the Overground at South Hampstead? This would certainly keep north London visitors happy using their own special route to Camden at weekends keeping them separate from the bustle of the tourists. Also a much shorter walk for them to the Hawley Arms, Camden Lock, Camden Bridge and the Stables markets.

westminster would rather break their own legs than actual make a decision on a long overdue project, also isn't it crazy how one of the wealthiest cities in the world can't fund their transport system? too many countries wait to the issue is at its more difficult point to fix, rather than resolving the issue before it becomes too much of a problem

Being a Yorkshireman, it forever annoys me when more and more money is spent on London transport with next to nothing for the north. This however is one of very few projects that I can't help but thing needs to be completed approximately yesterday. Complex though it may be, it's a relatively quick win and very cost effective way of massively increasing capacity. More relatively quick and each but highly effective projects like this are needed up and down the country.

Remove stopping at Camden from the Battersea to Edgeware line since they have the option of using Mornington Crescent. Then all changing between the lines would be at Euston (or Kennington). If this doesn't look like it will sufficiently relieve platform congestion then potentially look at a new station north of Camden Town under Castlehaven.

It would be called something ridiculously woke, like what they have done with the overground lines

No more londoncentric upgrades needed!

I mean, they could possibly try to get people to change at Euston. It's not that far away.

You describe the split of the northern line as a "plan", however, TfL themselves describe it as an aspiration. There is at the moment no plan and no funding to split the Northern line.

I can confirm they are going ahead with this, TFL has finally secured funding from the National Bank of Wakanda! 😛

Annoying for people who live in Golders Green and work in Moorgate, or people how live in Tufnell Park and work in Tottenham Court Road. Camden is about to be a lot busier

Considering they managed to entirely rebuild Tottenham Court Road, one of Londons busiest interchange stations, they can do Camden Town. They just need the will. You’re right, it’s a no brainier.

Ferries work well on the Swiss lakes. Both for locals and a tourist attraction.

When the rich and affluent need connecting to the tube, 1.1 billion readily avaliable tonextend the noerthern line to nine elms and Battersea

There is a diagram here www.google.com/search?q=camden+town+track+diagr&oq=camden+town+track+diagr&gs_lcrp=EghlZGdlX2lvcyoGCAAQRRg5MgYIABBFGDkyCggBEAAYgAQYogQyCggCEAAYgAQYogQyCggDEAAYgAQYogQyCggEEAAYgAQYogTSAQkxNDQzM2oxajeoAgCwAgE&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#vhid=r2ygxUONtCz5CM&vssid=_yQRDZ_G1Co6khbIP87XR4Qo_41 showing the difficulties in splitting the lines, in particular to to provide effectively level cross platform interchange between respectively the southbound and northbound platforms of each branch, as the current branches are well separated on diverging paths, in the northerly direction, with the platforms at different levels, and a spider’s web of tunnels to the south weaving over and under each other, with six separate junctions, two of them crossovers with two tunnels in and out) to allow for the various route permutations of four in each direction (Edgware/City Edgware/Charing X, Barnet/City and Barnet/Charing Cross.)

Important video - important project. Earned a sub.

I wish the actual reason Camden requires a full upgrade including a secondary ticket hall was released by tfl. Like having people need to change there isn't going to increase the amount of people going in and out the station at all and shouldn't make it exit only more often. More people will just be switching to the other platform within the station but the interchange tunnels are too small at the moment. But the platforms in the same direction are at the same level next to each other with nothing in the way, so instead of £2bn for a whole new station surely they can just knock through the wall on 1 platform in a straight line for 30 meters and they'll be at the next platform. Do this twice and the interchange capacity will be plenty high enough. Basically what they're planning but without the extra ticket hall being built. So why not do this for cheap and then that's it split the lines. Leave the new ticket hall as its own project. I dont get why it's estimated to cost £2bn anyway since Bank station just had an even bigger upgrade with more new concourse and ticket halls for under £1bn.

As I see things IF Crossrail 2 gets built ever it will will require Clapham Junction to be rebuilt IF you do that it would make sense to extend the Northern Line from Battersea Power Station down to Clapham Junction BUT to make that viable you'd need higher Northern Line frequencies AND the only way to achieve that is to split the lines in two AND you can only do that if you rebuild Camden Town.