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Queensland Rail also has famously poor communication. Perhaps the worst example was during serious flooding that stopped all trains through the city. A ministerial staffer was in the main ABC building and realized that they had known this for some time but that there had been no communication to the travelling public. Countless people could have made other plans and saved hours of delay if QR had had a culture of caring about this. That was years ago, yet several times recently I've seen that this culture hasn't changed. From an HR and human factors point of view, something is badly wrong at the top of QR.

This video is incredibly pessimistic. HSR is necessary not only for transport between Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane, but is essential in solving the cities and their housing crises. HSR would certainly be able to solve Sydney's housing crisis quicker than the expensive urban Sydney Metro (especially the conversion of the Bankstown Line). HSR would be able for people to live in Newcastle, the Central Coast, and Canberra, and to commute to Sydney. Also, the line would free up air capacity to allow for Qantas and other companies to focus on international flights. In addition, the HSR line would be able to allow for passengers from lets say Sydney, to take the train to Melbourne, and catch a flight from there. The HSR could use existing track that could be duplicated, electrified and added signaling, especially between Melbourne and Shepparton which are quite straight to allow for higher speeds. The only section where new track would be required would be the section in rural NSW, which has land cheaper for development and acquisitions. If anything, HSR can be built between the cities, it just needs to be first opened. And, if TfNSW dedicated it's resources into a HSR line between Newcastle to Sydney (which only needs to straighten track in a few sections and upgrade signaling and stations!) could allow for new TOD to be built around the station, which could allow for around 100,000 new homes (significantly more than the contentious TOD rezoning program in Sydney). Upgraded regional rail could never have the same developmental impacts as a HSR line.

Melb is famous for trams 😅

SRL vs AirPort Express link. Melbourne airport has been waiting for the rail link since 1970. They even have an unground rail station at terminal 4.

This is a fascinating topic and one that could also be called corruption. When the Sydney Cross City tunnel was opened, it included a restriction that effectively banned any new public transport initiatives and bus routes north of Oxford Street (between Oxford and the Harbor). It is rumoured that this is part of why the Randwick light rail cuts through narrow residential Surry Hills streets and parkland and not down its traditional alignment along Oxford Street. I cannot find any reference if the restrictions are still in place

Australian trains are just bad… even Melbourne off peak are terrible. Frequency is bad . Plenty of change over to bus between stations during off peak. Ridiculous.

It wont change shit, why? WHY? Because the trians and fking busses dont link to where people WANT and NEED to GO! The river crossing is totally useless as well.

the fare cost makes driving a viable option. use to be much cheaper than driving when i use to catch a train regularly.

The CFMEU run Queensland. Thats why it costs more.

Ever since CRR was announced, I feel like I am the only person who sees the downside of it. More stops = longer travel times. Why do people who are travelling the furthest have to go through the tunnel(Caboolture/Gold Coast lines)? Fortitude Valley goers will now need to change trains after a night out. To go North or South side(depending on which suburbs you live in) will need to go back to Roma Street Station to change trains to get on their lines, which will mean people will need to leave earlier to make the cut off time. You can tell the people who designed this do not actually use the trains. More like a plan to build the new central station called Albert St station to get more foot traffic through the mall.

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Very expensive to add new services compared with other cities as both a guard and driver are needed.

Just freeze the population size. It's not benefitting anyone

I’m keen to see how the 50c fares will affect usage and adoption of the metro.

Why does it cost $5 billion in QLD versus $1 billion in WA? Perhaps because the labourers and traffic controllers get $220k salaries per year?

looking forward to the completion of this.

We get frustrated out at Fernvale as the train line was removed that went out to Moore. It’s been turned into a Rail Trail however the population is growing at such a rapid rate in the Somerset region that our one highway is outdated and considered one of the most dangerous in Qld. Wish they would put the line back in for all the Commuters and locals into Brisbane. Would save lives on the Brisbane Valley Highway.

qr could eleviate the congestion across the river immediately by routing the GC/APT trains via tennyson and the western line which has a 4 track capacity….those trains have no need to go via park rd/south bank-brisbane

Definitely need more frequency, stop running express trains from stations within 45 mins to the City, and more trains need to run through the Western suburbs. After living on all North, South, West, and East sides of Brisbane, the trains on the Westside are definitely the most packed and least serviced suburbs. I've been catching trains in Brisbane for over 4 decades.

We can only dream of this in Ireland 😅😅😅3rd world infrastructure we can't even send electricity overheads to drogheda 😅

Our engineers and government have not got a clue about the future except for their superannuation payout from the tax payer.crap infrastructure and I have been here since 1983

What a laugh. All this government are any good at is talking about their grand ideas. They couldn't build a sandcastle.

we really need something that gos thjough aspley to albany creek

As long as you have an unreasonably high barrier of entry, it will never be good. There should be no regulations on it other than, dont stop in the middle of the road without a shelter, and dont kill people. A big van can be entry level to mass transit, or a truck with an open air trailer seating attached. If anybody can participate in the market, it could be healthy, but cities are way too strict about this stuff

Needs more train depot's as well. The problem with frequency and timetables is how to get the trains to the stations in the first place

LOL at the SkyNews reference, basically just a tabloid for entertainment and not actual real factual news.

The Goverment never extended the NSW South coast line towards Victoria as it ends in Bomaderry. There were talks back in the early 70s there were going to extend the line up to Jervis Bay as nothing has been said after this. It will never happen as the population in those areas isn't large enough, yet.

Are you going to do a video about the Canberra Light Rail?

0.40 I didnt know they were going to put light rail down Dominion road lol They had ther trams running that route in the 1950s

It was a vanity project and a complete waste of money.

I watched this to help fill in a few details of the overview that I figured I had missed and to that end it was good - especially with the details about the Exhibition line. It’s possibly understandable that someone not from Brisbane could miss some relevant details and over state the lack of upgrades over the years. Apart from the Airport line you mentioned there have been significant upgrades, new lines and connections that have greatly enhanced the network (even if it is still lacking). The area covered by this network is also relevant when comparing it to other cities. How much of Perths population is directly serviced by the rail network compared to Brisbane (I have no idea). Does Perth have other populated regions like the Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast, Ipswich and Logan near by that it needs to connect to? The train used to stop at Beenleigh many years ago with limited public transport from their to the gold coast but that line was extended to connect better with the gold coasts light rail (“tram”) network. The Busway network operates more like a train network than regular buses because the busway is a dedicated system of roads and tunnels that only intersect with the road network at a few places - mostly at it’s ends. The Busway network was a major upgrade to Brisbane public transport about 25 or so years ago. In fact “Boggo Road” is the name of the Busway Station and “Park Road” is the train station next to it (Park Road traditionally being the last connection between the Cleveland Line and Beenleigh/GoldCoast lines). Perhaps they are going to merge the train and busway station into one “Boggo road” transport interchange in a similar way that Roma St is both a rail and Busway interchange. I’m interested to know how the Gabba busway and new rail station will link up with Boggo/Park Rd station and beyond as the current busway intersects with the rail line at South Bank and Buranda station (one past Park Rd on the Cleveland line) It would be pretty hard to get your head around all the nuances of a public transport system in a city you don’t live in. Do you have local contacts in each city help clarify details?

You want people to use the train, make it free

When comparing population density it’s probably worth also comparing the size of the area. Brisbane itself is a huge city in terms of size and it butts up against smaller neighbouring cities like Ipswich and Logan in a way that seems to form an even bigger single city - Ipswich and Logan just feel like regions on the edge of Brisbane. The Sunshine Coast is huge and Maroochydore is only half way up it. The southern area that the rail line will service is the most built up and populated region but a substantial number of the stated population live further north. After Maroochydore there is the river then the airport and then many smaller regions with popular beach towns like Coolum but the train probably wouldn’t travel along the coast where it would displace too many people and cause too much disruption (from what I can tell) so Day trippers wanting to go somewhere like Coolum will probably need to catch a bus from the train station to the beach. I imagine Noosa is the next more densely populated coastal area and that’s probably the same distance again as the line detailed in the video. Maroochydore to Noosa is a long line to build with a lower population and a lot of environmental impact but a larger percentage of the people using the stops probably wouldn’t live at them.

Could is the main thing. It Could. But it won’t. Because we don’t have enough people who would use it to make it profitable.

I doubt it will actually happen. Cost vs profit stops most transport systems in Australia. We don’t have the population using it. So the cost would never be recovered. So investors will go somewhere else.

Enjoyed both the Brisbane and Sunshine Coast rail videos. You are a very informative vampire.

Absolutely spot on, we really should be thinking laterally about the situation to make them a real alternative. I lived in Melbourne for five years until recently and had a job that meant I had to travel to Geelong, Ballarat, and Bendigo reasonably frequently and I always caught a VLine train which was great, especially when they were going at their maximum allowed speed of 160km per hour. I live in Canberra now and recently caught the train to Sydney, which I liked because you have so much more room than an aeroplane, you can get up and walk to the kiosk and pick up some food, do some work, etc. And it was full, a lot of other people were thinking just like me. But why do NSW railways have such old country trains. I remember when Neville Wran's government bought the XPT trains, it was a long time ago, and yet they are still a main train that is relied on. Why doesn't the NSW Government buy some new trains?????? I love catching trains in Europe, how fast they are (250km per hours seems pretty normal there), that you can stay in a hotel right next to the railway station, and therefore pop over shortly before your train leaves. I also love big railway stations, how there is nearly every shop or cafe or restaurant that you should want. Yes lets reinvigorate our regional trains!

Vocal fry. Caution ...

Would it not be more economical, easier, quicker and cheaper to build a light rail loop service from the heavy rail stop at the most southern point of the Suuny Coast into the heart of the Sunshine Coast up to the top of the heavy rail Sunshine Coast. The Gold Coast has seen tremendous value from its light rail system (Newcastle and Sydney less so).

Typical Queensland Labor Government incompetence and corruption.

They have announced flat 50¢ fares in August for 6 months, which should help boost ridership, but no further announcements regarding increasing train frequency to match. I’m grateful for the cheaper fares, but I am not looking forward to the inevitable overcrowding, which may well backfire the whole initiative.

The last thing the Sunshine Coast needs is to make it easier for the populous to overcrowd and choke the area more..

Fun fact - one of the biggest names who protested against the Bondi Beach rail line was Michael Caton, aka Darryl Kerrigan from The Castle. What a wanker.

The line from Toowoomba to Brisbane needs improvement. That whole area from there to Ipswich is booming. Needs a regular train like the Gold Coast line. Of course that will take serious investment to update line infrastructure itself.

Brisbane: “Yaaaay we built a small tunnel under the river for our existing rail!!!” Sydney: “Okay.”

What's wrong with the network being old? It still works! (BNE represent!) The issue of patronage was identified long ago. I did a survey for airtrain, where the most common response was that people would use it to get to the airport...if they lived near a trainline. That too is a legacy of Queensland not really having urban planning before the 1990s, and regional planning only at the start of this century.

I remember when the Marivale bridge was built in 1978 and that was a huge game changer. That's how backward Queensland rail was.

Reason so expensive is the need to set aside 40% of cost for union kickbacks which will in turn be fed back into the Labour government's war chest.

Frequency is definitely a defining factor, I'm live in Bunbury and while the Australind line to Perth isn't running, the replacement Coaches are so infrequent that it's just not worth bothering, every time I look it's too late or too early. I really hope when the Australind does re-open it runs more often, more than once or so a day at least

What is needed in the eyes of the Public Servants, is to have a luxury abode just minutes from George street. Local and State government Politicians, and other Public Servants have already bough up parcels along the way. They knew before it was publicly announced, to "invest" in that area. Once it is announced, the uniformed take second place.