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You probably found it in Ouspensky's 'In Search of the Miraculous. I am offering a whole series of seven modules exploring this in depth beginning on November 7th. It is hosted by the Edinburgh International Centre for Spirituality and Peace (EICSP.org) Here is a link where you can find details and how to register. eicsp.org/events/event-details/1214-online-zoom-workshop-series-the-enneagram-of-cosmic-laws-7-november-19-december-2024

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Thanks, Vince. I have amended and updated the content of this video in a series of three videos: The Ancient Roots of the Enneagram, The Origins and Development of the Enneagram, and The Rediscovery and Development of the Enneagram in Modern Times. I shall be deleting the older versions.

The first time we find the Enneagram symbol in modern times is, indeed, in Ouspensky's book, "In Search of the Miraculous'. However that book is simply a record of Gurdjieff's teaching as noted down in detail by Ouspensky. It was Gurdjieff himself who discovered the symbol and introduced it to his students. I have more detail in my updated series of videos: The Ancient Roots of the Enneagram, The Origins and Development of the Enneagram Symbol, and The Rediscovery and Development of the Enneagram in modern times.

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@@kenwebb You are on the wrong track. The reality is not about finding the money. The reality is about correct efficient allocation of available resources be they human or physical and the money is Not a resource in that but is only a way of distibuting those resouces efficiently. Central governments do not just have the automatic ability to know the best allocation of resources and make horrible decisions on allocations of resources which too often are just made for political reason. The MMT idea of this is grossly wrong. It fails to acknowledge the correct sequence of events that must occur before an efficient allocation of resources takes place. Creating more money by the government selling bonds or taxing as government does when it spends and runs deficits does not just create more wealth because it misallocates resources. If the principle that MMT puts across that creating more money automatically created more goods or services was actually true then it would be true for every form of government and not just the Federal central government. It also would be true for every person and every business but they deny that. Tell me why that is not there policy but it is their policy to restrict it to only the monopoly central government.

@@kenwebb I will make it easy for you by asking a few simple questions about MMt taht you can deal with in your own mind after thinking about it. . Why do you believe the MMT idea that they put across which says the money must be spent by the government before taxes can be paid (Mosler, Randall Wray, ) when most of the money in the economy is created by private banks when they create new money and that money is spent on buying products with embedded tax and on paying wages of people the borrower of that money employs and sometimes pays tax bills directly? Why would you believe the MMt idea that taxes put value into the money and get it accepted when they did not do so in all cases of countries where despite taxes inflation made the money worthless and rejected by the people and then by their own government. Taxes and worthless money together at the same time. Why would you believe the MMt idea that taxes put value into the money when if they actually did even more tax would make it even more valuable to the point of making it infinitely valuable if taxes were 100%? Can you anser any of these with rational reasons ?

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@@kenwebb You say "we can't let things like debt and deficit hold us back". Why don't you check out the situation in Uganda in the 1970 where the dictator president - Idi Amin Dada when was told by the government Treasury that it was out of funds he decided that debt and deficit would not hold the government back so decided they should just print more money. That all ended so very badly because inflation soared. What would you learn from that reality? Or would you be like those who are insane who don't learn from historical facts and just repeat things that failed before ?

@@kenwebb This is simple question that does not require a repeat of what MMT economists say. Why do you think that some economist who has never been involved as central bankers in money creation but are just MMt economists would know better than the Central banks themselves have explained how new money is created to fund government spending ? .

Your comment really caught my attention, so I feel drawn to say something here that I would never usually say in a public forum. I have found my way to this video as a part of some incredibly extensive research into the cause of a disorder I have been facing. If I were to go into detail, most would say I was crazy (and technically, they would be somewhat correct, at least in the sense that I have a serious mental illness that impairs my ability to function and to live a normal life). So instead, I'll just say that my current branch of research is focused on Kabbalah and any symbolism involved. Now, to address your comment and why it made me feel the need to respond... Apparently, there IS some sort of connection between the structure of Kabbalah's Tree of Life and the quadrants of the brain. I've seen a few videos that mention it. The problem is, I don't particularly care to go into detail about them. I'll just say that if this is something you're truly curious about, you should try searching for the information because it IS out there. It may be buried in some dark places, but I've come across it more than once. There IS something to it and I'll be adding it to my list of "things to research more thoroughly" as well. I'm also an INFP, btw 😅

@@Jack.0ctober I had just finished writing something relevant to what you are talking about making the Laws of three seven and one within. My (S) my third preference is like the neutral position in a trinary of three positive and negative and neutral. (F) would be at point three positive, (N) would be at point 6 negative, and (S) at point Nine neutral. When I switch on or activate to the Higher emotional centre and higher mental centre the two shocks felt would be the negative at point three turning or flipping too positive, First-Shock and the positive at point six turning too negative Second Shock felt the dual in the everything feeling as it is both mass and energy would be the continues osculation's between negative and positive at both points as if for some need points six and three needs to return back to negative and positive the entropic state. The spiritual state or higher state has that dual switching going on and you can hold it all day. The Nural at point Nine I stated talking about is like the screen it is dual it is a self and screen osculation's dyad. Interestingly if you sum the osculation's at Points three six and nine, we sum six and the universe being host is the seventh. You know Univers is Host when you switch on and if someone says Universe is not Host then they are not in the switched-on state. Another way to describe it to take a breath and allow yourself to end up on the other side of the Mind Heart Duality. When you, authentically switch on like in the morning when awaken you can place your hand on your heart and breath yourself in and in doing so you cross the divide of the dual and you are switched on there is no shock felt because the path has already been established, just that lighter spacious comfortable feeling of being authentically balanced. I keep forgetting to get to the point. The Neutral being at point nine enables the points six and three to be the positive and negative a multiplicity and the screen being a neutral means the information projected on to the screen can be of any natural nature. That is F***ing amazing that it is so simple to explain. You can see the stress in the body and see illness like a cancer or you can choose not to see anything like that at all. It's amazing. Its miraculous. Thats why thinkers call the search for experiencing the authentic self as being in search of the miraculous. Anyways enough of my waffle no one is really interested in the metaphysical level of reality. At least not until it's too late. I wonder how the global stability traveling along the geopolitical unrest between faction's shore is becoming intense.

@@Jack.0ctober Thanks for the suggestion. Hope you get you head problems sorted out. You are an INFP 9w1? If so, this may be helpful for you. Your third preference is the S function and last is the T function. IN order to get to the balanced state of utilising higher emotional centre and higher mental centre making the law of three seven and one is essential. I will cut and paste something I just finished writing on a forum. I was talking to a INFP 9w1 sp/so tritype 926 (9w1, 2w1, 6w7,) about point six and seven and subsidiary wings for the primary type nine. As a INFP 9w1 sp/so tritype 926 (9w1, 2w1, 6w7,) Your ISFP and ESFP must be often felt. Your Sp/sx must have some order of influence upon your third preference (S) in INFP. My (S) my third preference is like the neutral position in a trinary of three positive and negative and neutral. (F) would be at point three positive, (N) would be at point 6 negative, and (S) at point Nine neutral. When I switch on or activate to the Higher emotional centre and higher mental centre the two shocks felt would be the negative at point three turning or flipping too positive, First-Shock and the positive at point six turning too negative Second Shock felt the dual in the everything feeling as it is both mass and energy would be the continues osculation's between negative and positive at both points as if for some need points six and three needs to return back to negative and positive the entropic state. The spiritual state or higher state has that dual switching going on and you can hold it all day. The Nural at point Nine I stated talking about is like the screen it is dual it is a self and screen osculation's dyad. Interestingly if you sum the osculation's at Points three six and nine, we sum six and the universe being host is the seventh. You know Univers is Host when you switch on and if someone says Universe is not Host then they are not in the switched-on state. Another way to describe it to take a breath and allow yourself to end up on the other side of the Mind Heart Duality. When you, authentically switch on like in the morning when awaken you can place your hand on your heart and breath yourself in and in doing so you cross the divide of the dual and you are switched on there is no shock felt because the path has already been established, just that lighter spacious comfortable feeling of being authentically balanced. I keep forgetting to get to the point. The Neutral being at point nine enables the points six and three to be the positive and negative a multiplicity and the screen being a neutral means the information projected on to the screen can be of any natural nature. That is F***ing amazing that it is so simple to explain. You can see the stress in the body and see illness like a cancer or you can choose not to see anything like that at all. It's amazing. Its miraculous. Thats why thinkers call the search for experiencing the authentic self as being in search of the miraculous. Anyways enough of my waffle no one is really interested in the metaphysical level of reality. At least not until it's too late. I wonder how the global stability is traveling along. The geopolitical unrest between faction's shore is becoming intense.

Yes, I have heard of it. It's on my reading list.

Great! Look forward to meeting you online then.

Great, Ruth. Look forward to meeting you online then.

Thanks for pointing that out. I should have said more accurately one of his early followers, rather than first. I meant simply that he joined the group somewhere around 1915.

If Ouspensky had the being of a small child, then how could he write the best book on Gurdjieff, and also his earlier Tertium Organum (before even meeting Gurdjieff), which is another masterwork?

@@lucassiccardi8764 gurdjieff said on meeting ouspensky that if he understood what he had written he gurdjieff would bow down before him and kiss his feet. Knowledge left brain....doesn't mean anything..the whole being (holy) must know . Intuition telepathy etc all right brain....

@@notshirley32 Gurdjieff said that if anybody could understand all they had read, they would know everything they needed. This doesn't mean that anyone can write something like Tertium Organum or In Search for the Miraculous. Ouspensky was maybe more of a rational guy, nobody is perfectly balanced, but this doesn't take away the fact that he was a creative genius and by far the best amongst Gurdjieff's students. Where are you taking the quote that "they all knew Ouspensky had the essence of a small child" from? Why would have so many people followed Ouspensky if everybody knew he was that unbalanced? And where does Gurdjieff mention cerebral hemispheres? The motor centre and the emotional centre are not the right cerebral hemisphere.

Having the essence of a small child is likely a very endearing comment seeing as Gurdjieff referred to adults with no essence as being dead. Essence typically stops its development around age 7 for most. This essence of a child likely contributed to his literary genius. Tertium and Fragments of an Unknown Knowledge are two of my favorite books as well. Words are rigid and often lead to the exact opposite sentiment that was intended to be conveyed. The comment was not meant as a slight but this is just my humble opinion.

Yes, I will. Though it will be called 'The Enneagram of Cosmic Laws. A full description of it can be found in another of my videos with that title, but it is really a further development of the course I taught last year. You will find it on the events page of the EICSP website: Here's the link: eicsp.org/events/event-details/1214-online-zoom-workshop-series-the-enneagram-of-cosmic-laws-7-november-19-december-2024

@@kenwebb Thank you , I would love to learn about this topic from you

I have a new course up coming. See my videos entitled What is the Enneagram, and The Ancient Roots of the Enneagram. Here is a link to the new course which is being offered live in 7 sessions starting November 7th. eicsp.org/events/event-details/1214-online-zoom-workshop-series-the-enneagram-of-cosmic-laws-7-november-19-december-2024

@@kenwebb Dear Ken, I have registered to The Enneagram of Cosmic Laws . I'm very much looking forward to learn from you started on 7 Nov. See you soon (online)

The course only costs £60, with half going to the EICSP who host it for me. I try not to exclude anyone, so if you can only manage £30, the only way to manage is to email me directly: kenwebb275@icloud.com

That was when I really began to dig more deeply into this.

I am in the process of updating the information on the Edinburgh International Centre for Spirituality and Peace, and as soon as it is updated you will find my course on their website Events page: However, you can sign up now before I have updated using the link on the course as previously advertised. Here is the link: eicsp.org/events/event-details/1111-online-zoom-workshop-series-recordings-the-fourth-way-enneagram

Did you make an enquiry at the EICSP.? I have heard back from me and they are asking if I want to partner with them again in doing a live course. I will get back to you as soon as we have decided how best to deliver the course.