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Elite Dangerous: System Colonisation Profits?
Would you CMDR like to be compansated in some way for investing your time and resourcess as system architect? Or you don't care and you'll work for free?
I know - tricky question. ;)
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Let's do every mission... part 7, Thargoids in Sol.
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Part 7 of the challange where I try to complete every single mission type along with Ted May. In this episode we interact with some alien bugs.
Elite Dangerous: Little rant about powerplay
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I can't belive we haven't got Colonia Council as a new power. What a shame. How do we suppose to take over Bubble now? ;) music: pixabay.com Halloween Trap by SigmaMusicArt
Elite Dangerous: Mandalay Overachiever, Jumper build and review
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The ugly fat goose of a ship, new Zorgon Peterson's Mandalay, wasn't excited for it at all... but this ship surprised me - and now I love it! I just had to make a video about it! music: pixabay.com Ruby Wings by hatgoki Funk city 80s type synthwave funk background by MigaraJay 0:00 - 03:09 jumper build 03:09 - 5:47 rewiev
Let's do every mission... part 6, Courier and assassinations.
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In this episode we're slightly sidetracked with Federation Rank Grind - but we quickly get back on topic with few assassinations.
Let's do every mission... part 5, Sightseeing adventure and famous explorer.
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In this part Ted is ferrying a rich tourist around bubble and I find my way to a close relationship with famous explorer.
Let's do every mission... part 4, powerplay, theft, espionage
มุมมอง 1964 หลายเดือนก่อน
in this part, I move some slaves for Kumo crew, Ted's steals ship schematic and I download some logs.
Let's do every type of mission in Elite Dangerous, part 3
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We have relocated ourselves to the Oppi system, there was trouble in there. In this episode we will be doing retrival, assassination and black box salvage missions.
Let's do every type of mission in Elite Dangerous, part 2
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Part two out of many of my little challange, system i'm currently stationed in has plunged into civil war, which gives me opportunity to do few war activities.
Let's do every type of mission in Elite Dangerous, part 1
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it's a showcase of missions in the game for both new and experienced players. music: www pixabay.com
Oh no! It's another ED wishlist!
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Wishlists can be dangerous things, to the people who make them. Got to say this video was less chaotic and more comprehensive in my mind than in reality. Ah well, not my finest work I guess. Music from Pixabay.com, Sound Effects from youtube, Video Clips from various Elite Dangerous Channels, Star Wars and Spaceballs.
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, New CMDR Ted ep.04
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You can watch this video on Odysee:odysee.com/@Fru_videos:d The day has come, Deck officer Ted can call himself a real CMDR as he, at last, will have something to command, from now on.
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, New CMDR Ted ep.03
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You can watch this video on Odysee:odysee.com/@Fru_videos:d Deck Officer Ted completes his first proper mission as a new CMDR.
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, New CMDR Ted ep.02
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You can watch this video on Odysee:odysee.com/@Fru_videos:d Deck Officer Ted takes the Pilots Federation evaluation test. will he pass it, CMDR Fru offers his input to make sure he does.
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, New CMDR Ted ep.01
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You can watch this video on Odysee:odysee.com/@Fru_videos:d Deck Officer Ted decided to blaze his own trail. Is it a beginning of new adventures? or a step towards his own doom? Time will tell.
Elite Dangerous: 60 LYs Python Exploration Build
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Elite Dangerous: 60 LYs Python Exploration Build
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, how not to grind.
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Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, how not to grind.
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, Which way is faster? Answered.
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Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, Which way is faster? Answered.
-Bubble Ship- video that almost broke me
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-Bubble Ship- video that almost broke me
ED Ball: Classic FD
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ED Ball: Classic FD
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, Star One, P2AE part 3
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Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, Star One, P2AE part 3
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, Important Question
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Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, Important Question
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, There's plenty to do. Exploration and exobiology.
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Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, There's plenty to do. Exploration and exobiology.
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, Sagittarius A*, P2AE part 2
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Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, Sagittarius A*, P2AE part 2
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, Guardians and Colonia, P2AE part 1
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Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, Guardians and Colonia, P2AE part 1
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, 10 reasons why Colonia is better than Bubble
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Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, 10 reasons why Colonia is better than Bubble
Elite Dangerous: animation - Jumponium
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Elite Dangerous: animation - Jumponium
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, Mining Tritium - Team mining guide
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Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, Mining Tritium - Team mining guide

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  • @sargepent9815
    @sargepent9815 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I spent weeks making my way out there, over 800 jumps and hours and hours of exploration. And then got ganked and destroyed right on the doorstep of getting to Colonia. I quit playing the game for almost two years after that

  • @eckee
    @eckee 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Colonia doesn’t have Raxxla

  • @colinscutt5104
    @colinscutt5104 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    on my way now

  • @phc3165
    @phc3165 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think these are great ideas and a valid point!

  • @tallerghostwalt
    @tallerghostwalt 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would love to see some kind of controllable NPC trading fleet management like in X4, but not just the technology but also the gameplay of Elite isn‘t really built around something like that. And just to have a simple passive income, I wouldn’t want that. So I kinda do like their direction, that we could plan our colonies so that lucrative trade routes are created. With that the player does benefit, but still has a gameplay loop to do, in order to get something out from it. Whether that will actually work out, we will have to wait and see, of course. 🙂

  • @robertkrol7283
    @robertkrol7283 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At least we should be able to mine the planet for raw materials, then build refinery, production plants for other commodities to sell them. Otherwise I dont see a point in colonizing a planet. Then fun options include expanding settlements into cities, introducing new life forms, building deep mines, defenses, manufacturing ships, modules, develope new tech, make RTS game in the game.

  • @coolgroove
    @coolgroove 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It was discussed, on forums in Colonisation threads. Passive profits from Colonisation are a no go, as it will make credits even more meaningless than they are now. All the reason and conclusions about that are in forums discussions. Material profits are similar. Getting resources that player can use for further Colonisation is meaningless, because there is already the whole commodities/trucking part of the game for that. As you can see - there were plenty of discussions about it. The best thing that could happen - FDev said that one of the main target audiences for this feature are Traders/Truckers - so it could be that Minor Faction that players buys the beacon from will reimburse all delivered commodities that are needed for construction. So to make profit player would need to find a place to buy cheap and then deliver for construction.

  • @HCforLife1
    @HCforLife1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It all depends on Fdev plans. Do they want to implement base mechanics first? Maybe colonization will be bare when introduced but they plan expand on some sort of base building in this year as supplementary content? I imagine not getting the profits from my colony. But on the other hand we all should be able to get a base or something like that. To me it seem like a separate mechanic. There is difference between colonization mechanic and base-building. On the other hand I am sure that if base-building will be introduced any time in the future it would need to be placed in your system. I wish they would be open about all of that and potential expansions on the feature.

  • @drachior
    @drachior 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My guess is, that they don't want to introduce profits because they don't want to upset the gameplay loop and financial ballance of the game. It would require work to fix it or make something new, and that takes money. They're mostly putting dev tools that already existed for them into players hands, right? No new innovation, just feeding us breadcrumbs to keep us busy and offer us money sinks for the billions thrown at us doing .... ugh... exobiology. at the very least give me engineering materials as income, so i don't have to drive across a bumpy moon for an hour, searching a handful of selenium

  • @analystprime9604
    @analystprime9604 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like being communist

    • @HCforLife1
      @HCforLife1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hate communism (I am Polish so... XD) Regardless - it would be cool to have some BGS mechanics concentrating on factions allegiance to their system resulting in some alliances. So for example when you support communism - you have special perks and better relations with those system factions, but worse relations with some opposing.

    • @OurLifeisaMiracle
      @OurLifeisaMiracle 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HCforLife1 XD

  • @Rigel_Chiokis
    @Rigel_Chiokis 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We commanders may be investing time and effort into providing construction materials, but it's the NPC corporations providing the colonisation vessels, the trillions of credits and manpower to build the stations and bases, to promote moving there and probably transporting the colonists to their new homes. So no, I don't think I'm entitled to ongoing profits. Besides, what would I do with it? I all ready have so many credits that I could ignore my fleet carrier for three years before their funding runs out. That's without giving the carrier the half billion credits in my personal account, which I really don't have much use for.

  • @DvdV1337
    @DvdV1337 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did you delete my comment?

    • @Fru_videos
      @Fru_videos 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's basic automatic moderation enabled, did you said something naughty? ;)

    • @analystprime9604
      @analystprime9604 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What was it ?

    • @drachior
      @drachior 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      youtube deletes peoples comments all the time, sometimes for no reson.

    • @DvdV1337
      @DvdV1337 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I did not. Genuine reply. But i've had this before. You take the time to write a comment, and youtube deletes my small essay -.-

    • @tallerghostwalt
      @tallerghostwalt 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      YT regularly hides comments in the standard view for whatever reason. Try switching to „newest comments“, it usually shows up there.

  • @AlgoFodder
    @AlgoFodder 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think if any payments happen they should be one-offs - the job title is System Architect, not Owner - maybe a reward for completing each system asset would be appropriate. Like many players I'm past the point of worrying about Credits and will get colonising anyway, so if some are holding out for rewards, less rewards mean less competition! One idea I had, maybe if you get a system to a certain population level or number of assets, you get a "vanity station" that you can operate like a static fleet carrier for storage and running the market. That would be nice to have, but probably not in the planned release I bet.

  • @DanielPucciDanish
    @DanielPucciDanish 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ok, you convinced me. I'm moving to Colonia...

  • @kawazu874
    @kawazu874 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a really good question. I don't think I will get any system. Not that it could be nice but just because I don't play Elite enough to go over "casual gameplay". Colonization could, might, be the thing I was waiting for a *very* long time ago, guilds. But as I fear guild mechanics won't be implemented (true in game link between sub faction, squadron and colonization) and we might get "just" a "huge FC".

  • @briangueringer3673
    @briangueringer3673 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a tough one. If they the profit share goes to 1 dude that seems nutty lol. I would have like to see them start with small bases first and have actual npcs trading and selling with your base or carrier. It seems just odd to add. You expand the buddle basically? Ok lol. I am sure org types will dig it but solos ? I really dont see a point at this moment to do it , except for the "experience " of it. I would have been much more excited if they expanded on the ways to make money with a carrier... Just seems like another thrown in thing that doesnt really have a point. Hopefully, they actually do something with it... I am sure some players will find creative ways to set up a money farm with another system but it should a top level system not a find a way to get around the rules system. Now that you got me really thinking about it lol, they really hlshould have made npc carrier trade a thing.

  • @MJRSoap
    @MJRSoap 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Were I rich enough I to expand one of the Nebula outpost systems. They're currently just a single asteroid base and some surface instalations after Oddy released, small micro bubbles that arent Colonia or the Core if others do so as well.

    • @Tamburello_1994
      @Tamburello_1994 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There are SO MANY unoccupied systems in the bubble -- I'm not sure why folks want to expand to parts unknown -- where few go to set up shop especially if making it VIABLE should be the focus. Perhaps within the year -- but my starter system will be as close to where the money actually is, instead of the "being flung out this side of nowhere".

    • @MJRSoap
      @MJRSoap 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Tamburello_1994 Colonia isnt viable but people stay out there and you cant even get every single A rated module out there.

    • @Tamburello_1994
      @Tamburello_1994 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MJRSoap "Colonia isn't viable" is a subjective opinion. -- and yes, I've been there.

    • @HCforLife1
      @HCforLife1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Tamburello_1994 there are several reasons. Most unoccupied systems in and near the bubble aren't great colonization targets. The best ones has been already colonized. As long as they won't extend the landable atmospheric range we won't get that much choice in the bubble.

    • @Tamburello_1994
      @Tamburello_1994 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HCforLife1 So I've already targeted too many so your results may vary. You said "several reasons" but actually listed one. Anything else?

  • @torquaymouse2236
    @torquaymouse2236 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I pondered the same question, A lot of work running cargo and cash layout for commodities and time invested. What do I get for all this work? Surly it has to be more than just a station with my name attached? Hopfully?

  • @rybuds47
    @rybuds47 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love it

  • @D4rk3clipse
    @D4rk3clipse หลายเดือนก่อน

    I start to wonder what you'll say if the bugs come to Colonia.

    • @Fru_videos
      @Fru_videos หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll say - unlike Bubble people - let's not destroy them - let's try to capture the Titan instead ;)

  • @DrFrankNStein-sf2ww
    @DrFrankNStein-sf2ww หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah, Fru is composting bio waste. Elite Dangerous style. I rushed back home from Colonia in my Krait Phantom and did the same until Cocijo exploded. Got some nice screenshots. On my way back i test-jumped the new FSD. Works like a charm. 😇😉

  • @NietoKT
    @NietoKT หลายเดือนก่อน

    Poor titan... Nah, I'm kidding. The flowers deserved what they got.

  • @HCforLife1
    @HCforLife1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually got back to the game because of PP2.0 - and excited for colonization. So I guess - it;s different experience for different players

  • @HCforLife1
    @HCforLife1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your narrative

  • @HCforLife1
    @HCforLife1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So cool!

  • @planexshifter
    @planexshifter หลายเดือนก่อน

    As an explorer who is deep in the black…. I’m considering coming back to pick this up

    • @planexshifter
      @planexshifter หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ugh Engineering…🤮

  • @Scot-land
    @Scot-land หลายเดือนก่อน

    I spent 4 days travelling to here then i stupidly took the easy way back to help fight the thargoids and i now wish i hadn't of bothered

  • @jamesswinbanks
    @jamesswinbanks หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great video. Love your sense of humour and your eye for a good shot. Really great watch. Thanks for making it.

  • @dagoelius
    @dagoelius หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only downside of living out in the star studded fields of Colonia, is the carrier inflated levy pricing on A class modules.

  • @DanielHinnerkopf
    @DanielHinnerkopf หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol!😂

  • @marsluco1917
    @marsluco1917 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With the AFMU's, go with the 'B' size as the repair amount is larger than the 'A'

  • @kl0wnkiller912
    @kl0wnkiller912 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, how do I get all seven of my ships to Colonia?

    • @Fru_videos
      @Fru_videos หลายเดือนก่อน

      on a fleet carrier ofcourse, just see which one goeas there when on fleet carrier owners club on discord :)

  • @spartakos3178
    @spartakos3178 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Working towards a 4 rail gun multi-role that will alternate between bounty, settlement raiding, exploration/exobio, and passenger/SAR runs.

  • @Scot-land
    @Scot-land หลายเดือนก่อน

    I realise it’s over 3 year’s later but I’ve just started my way to colonia I’m currently 1600ly from the bubble so have a ways to go before I get to colonia and I’ll not be returning to the bubble colonia will be home

  • @CMDR_Yanick
    @CMDR_Yanick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's a very good summary video o7

  • @CMDR_Yanick
    @CMDR_Yanick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another excellent video CMDR Fru!

  • @christophercox4437
    @christophercox4437 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The game is worthless without VR in the whole game.

  • @saffieification
    @saffieification 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hahaha brilliant Fru im out in the black on my own station totally 0 - nada - Nil interest in PP 2.0 o7 Cmdr 😁

  • @DrFrankNStein-sf2ww
    @DrFrankNStein-sf2ww 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He is back !

  • @DvdV1337
    @DvdV1337 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meh, colonia is small. Its just an outpost really. I wouldve given you 2 anarchy powers tho, to keep you weirdo's in colonia busy. At the same time, just come to the bubble, try it out and then do the same.

  • @CMDR_Shokwave
    @CMDR_Shokwave 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe in a few years a PP daisychain will make it to Colonia. You know some commanders will try.

  • @D4rk3clipse
    @D4rk3clipse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:30 I laughed way too hard at this. Well done! xD

  • @kawazu874
    @kawazu874 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I fitted mine differently and only goes to ~50Ly as I don't have enough mats to complete grade 5 FSD :D But the Size 5 Fuel I put and little modifications made this ship crazy, I can fuel at max (577) and start jump even when fueling as the temperature doesn't go over 70%. Crazy ship with enough power for the exobiologist I am :)

    • @Fru_videos
      @Fru_videos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's completely overepowered, could argue it has a spot in top three best ships in the game.

  • @loggue9193
    @loggue9193 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    physically gagged when I saw the power plant.

  • @madprophetus
    @madprophetus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine my surprise that a ship only sold for real money might be overpowered! I wonder if they'll nerf it right before it goes to general availability? lmao. tale as old as time.

    • @Fru_videos
      @Fru_videos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When was the last time when they nerfed a ship? The only case I can think of was Python and that was like, what? 7 years ago? What are you on about? You prefer new ship addition to be worse than existing line up?

    • @UniTopie
      @UniTopie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the ship is just good at exploration , nothing new , like anaconda was able to reach this range before, no it will not get nerf, as he is not OP

    • @honestgoat
      @honestgoat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@UniTopieYeah it is pretty op bro. The yaw, omg the yaw. It flies through supercruise like its in normal space. The sco is smooth af. And no, its not just an explorer, its a surprisingly awesome combat ship as well. Its the most agile ship in the game. Its better then engineered EPT Small ships. In fact i think its even more agile than most slf's. Unless you specifically want a huge hardpoint, the Mandy beats the Ferdie hands down at combat as well. Its objectively the best ship to fly in the whole game and better than most other ships in most other ways. Except for cargo space. But no. I doubt it will get nerfed. Going by what they've been releasing this year, this is the direction theyre moving now. In terms of the lore, the war with the thargoids has massively advanced the level of technology in the galaxy and these new ships are a reflection of that.

    • @Fru_videos
      @Fru_videos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it overachieves even in combat? interesting :) Just like I said - one of the best ships that came to the game in years.

    • @eternallight523
      @eternallight523 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You guys are ridicolous. Pay2Win ships? The fuck? Have you forgotten that these will be completely free 3 months after their release? Honestly, just for the sake to piss you guys off, I wish they would stay buy only.

  • @CannyValley-bi8nq
    @CannyValley-bi8nq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the jump range 84 then? Also, congrats on having the most interesting accent, on par with Yamiks or something! (he's Latvian tho :))

    • @quantumshadow7416
      @quantumshadow7416 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      91.52 unladen as per this video; so probably ~91Ly with an almost empty fuel tank with just enough fuel to make the jump. 84.4875Ly with a full gas tank, assuming the "current" jump range shown in the video was with a full tank.

    • @Fru_videos
      @Fru_videos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes - it was full tank, in fact it was shown just after fuel scooping. I'm actually thinking of downsizing fuel tank by half. I didn't say it in the video - but this ship is very fuel efficient - it may get away with it.

    • @quantumshadow7416
      @quantumshadow7416 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Fru_videos You do you, obviously, but you can always just not fill the tank to the brim to retain the extra range. That way if you ever *do* need the extra fuel when exploring for a long string of non-scoopable stars, you can fill to the brim and handle it.

    • @CannyValley-bi8nq
      @CannyValley-bi8nq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@quantumshadow7416 Or have an optional internal fuel tank and have it turned off for ease of management? Not sure if that's possible th

  • @Gunhed507
    @Gunhed507 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unfortunately, I don't have every single modification unlocked. :(

  • @justinratcliff7766
    @justinratcliff7766 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's so nimble, and it absolutely loves the heat. Imagine not hearing an overheat alert when fuel scooping.... My testing continues.

    • @FilterUlje
      @FilterUlje 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      unfortunately it does not come close to a dolphin, fuel scoop on the brim of the yellow line, while charging FSD and with only range stuff done on it (so guaridan booster and sco fsd mods, maybe bit in power core n so on) it doesnt go above 80% while with mandy ive cracked over 100% a couple of times while doing the same thing :<

  • @valemax2976
    @valemax2976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well done! But i still personally still would want an SRV with me! Could you really bust with a class 1 Distributor? (even if engine focussed)

    • @Fru_videos
      @Fru_videos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yup I can boost. If you're going for an explorer not a jumper then you also want some shields on it :)

  • @jarekstorm6331
    @jarekstorm6331 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A G5 Lightweight Heat Sink Launcher is only 0.2 tons and can save your ship if you screw up near a star. 🫡

    • @Fru_videos
      @Fru_videos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't screw up near stars - and this ship is pretty cold without a shield and clean drives :)

    • @jasnterry1313
      @jasnterry1313 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My Mandalay runs so cold the heat never gets above 60 when scooping, where my anaconda was always at 80 or higher. Heatsinks really aren't needed with this ship.