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RV-12 S&G
United States
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 11 ส.ค. 2019
This channel is devoted to any and all things Vans RV-12 related. We take video of trips we've taken with both in-air and on-ground segments included. We will share ownership costs and anything else that comes to mind. If you like airplanes and flying, this is the place for you! #airplane #airplanes #flying #pilot
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Soft Field Takeoff
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Quick summary of technique for a soft field takeoff. #pilot #aircraft #flying #aviation
Flying KJZP-KUOX-KJZP
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X/C to visit family in our RV-12 airplane. 6 1/2 hours by car, 2 1/4 hours by plane. Can't be beat.
Flying to a Small Town Airport (Part Two)
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This is Part Two of a Two Part series. This return trip to Madison Georgia highlights more things the town and airport have to offer.
Flying to a Small Town Airport
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This two-part series captures a flight to a surprising small town USA. The airport holds a lot of charm and so does the small town. Part One is the initial recon while Part Two is more in depth.
Lovin' My RV-12 Airplane
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Sometimes you can't fully appreciate what you've got until you can compare it to something else similar. It never hurts to compare. But, it's especially satisfying to find that you already have the best!
Aircraft Fuel Additive
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My RV-12 Rotax engine requires the addition of a fuel additive when running on 100LL Avgas. But honestly, I am more about the bottle the additive comes in. I'm so easy to impress. See if you agree.
Aircraft Condition Inspection
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My 2022 RV-12iS is due for her second annual condition inspection. There are a few issues that need to be addressed. Let's see if she can pull through.
Turn Back
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Sometimes when you're flying you can't get where you're going. #flying #pilot #aviation #aircraft
Flying to the Civil War
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In this episode we trek down to the Confederate military prison in Andersonville, Ga. Flying there instead of driving made this a one-day trip bot possible by car. #flying #aviation #aircraft #pilot #KJZP #KACJ
Round Robin KJZP-KMNV
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Summertime cross-country flight over the mountains of North Georgia. #KJZP #KMNV #flying #aviation #aircraft #pilot
Flying The Cloud
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You can really feel the freedom of flight when you rise up to meet the clouds. #flying #aviation #aircraft #KJZP #pilot
Hazy Day for Flying
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Summertime in the South can be not only HOT but humidity leads to a HAZE layer below the clouds. See what restrictions to visibility can look like. Flight from KJZP. #flying #aviation #pilot #aircraft
Aircraft Enemy #1
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So you pay $400/mo to keep your airplane in a hangar and away from the elements. Should be safe there, right? Ohhh, nooo. You might have an unwelcome visitor. #aircraft. #pilot #aviation #light sport aircraft #flying
6 Landings In Under 10 Minutes
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To maintain passenger carrying proficiency, you have you have to make 3 takeoffs and landings within the prior 90 days. When weather isn't good for travel, use the day to beef up your landing stats. I did 6 today. All at KJZP. #flying #pilot #aviation #aircraft #KJZP
Flying RV-12 Aircraft to Chicago KDPA
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Flying RV-12 Aircraft to Chicago KDPA
Flying the Perfect Traffic Pattern KJZP
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Flying the Perfect Traffic Pattern KJZP
Good job with the coordination in the turns. My problem with holding altitude in turns, high altitude orientation for instrument flight, is that they are horrible energy management for low altitude work like takeoff and landing. As a crop duster, I understand what the airplane wants to do in every turn, as Wolfgang keeps encouraging us. It wants to lower its nose to maintain trimmed airspeed rather than altitude. This is low altitude orientation where horizontal limitations are as great as vertical limitations. Airspeed, and not altitude, is life down here and altitude maintenance at any cost does cost lives. How do crop dusters make greater than 60 degree banks a thousand times a day without stall or even excessive fatigue? It is our legs that fatigue, not our arms at 1 g 70 degree banks. The free ground effect energy of the six inches to three feet swath run and pitching to just over, not well over, the wire or tree gives us zoom reserve airspeed for the turn back into the field 50 feet upwind (wind management.) A slight turn downwind will give us a bit more room unless headwind is enough to reduce radius of turn back. As soon as we turn back toward the field, we release back pressure on the stick. We turn steeper than we think necessary to be sure we don't end up putting a down wing into a wire getting aligned with the crop row. The nose will go down under the target unless we take some tuck out, but not much wing load... maybe 1.1 g. We level the wing before pull up to arrive again at six inches to three feet in the field. OK, not necessary in the pattern. However, the airplane trimmed for Vy for takeoff will decelerate below Vy in the turns crosswind and downwind if the pilot pulls back on the yoke. Exceeding the angle of attack is when the stall happens. A pilot pulling on the yoke is what causes it. Why are we teaching students to stall in the pattern where it is generally fatal?
Steam gauges on glass panel? Wrong in so many ways!
Oh no Dustin. I’ve tried it both ways. Can’t beat the look and ease of scanning the old tried and true gauges. 😂
@@rv12sgI get it. I used to think the same way. Learned on steam gauges but converted and would never go back now. Took hours to convert though. Scan is reduced and way more information is available in smaller scan. Cool thing about garmin though you can have it either way!
45 degrees is definitely where stick and rudder issues start showing up. At that point, the plane starts wanting to tip over, shallow out, descend. Those are the turns that I have to hit every once in a while to make sure they stay clean. I don’t go to 60 degrees toooo often as it just seems a little huge…I dunno, maybe I should. Under normal circumstances, you don’t really steepen past 30 degrees too often but I guess too much focus on “normal circumstances” can leave you ill-equipped when the “abnormal circumstance” decides to come knockin…
For me, both 45 and 60 degree banked turns are good practice in power and pitch management. In the video I allowed a loss of several hundred feet in altitude. Not up to the standard I demand, so it's back to the practice arena for me.
Thanks Steve. It's good for all of us to practice the basics, rather than aimlessly boring holes in the sky. Cheers from downunder. 😁
As winter starts to set in up here, I am jealous that you are at the start of your warm season.
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Takes me back to my early training. Thank you. What are going to do next time?
Gosh Jeff, I never know myself. I'm anxious to go somewhere though. The problem now is that the nights fall below 32 degrees and I do not have a preheater. In wintertime I usually post videos on aviation topics that don't require me to fly.
Great place. Like your videos, but straight-in approach in non-towered airports? I don't!
Hi Daniel! I get your point. As a rule I fly a full pattern, too. Especially at a busy airport like my home field. Here, I listened to CTAF for quite a while and saw no activity on my ADS-B fish finder. I know that's not a guarantee other traffic isn't there, so I was vigilant.
The two bits of difficulty I had when learning soft fields in the RV12 were finding the right amount of initial back pressure (not sending the nose flying up into the air) and not climbing away too quickly. The RV12 is such an enthusiastic climber, when trimmed for takeoff, it just wants to plow out of ground effect and fly away. Especially when the weather is cold and you’re by yourself…you can be at pattern altitude in like 45 seconds…
Yep, the RV-12 likes to fly. It's eager on takeoff to climb away, and on landing will float a long way if you come in hot. A real credit to the design team who made such a slick profile.
Always a pleasure to see a new episode
Thanks John. I'll keep 'em coming.
Actually, the soft field takeoff is also the most efficient short field takeoff. Notice that crop dusters and STOL guys use this technique for the shortest takeoff roll. Actually, the airplane will and does fly much at a much slower airspeed in low ground effect. While the big engine STOL guys continue climbing out of ground effect, the normal airplanes doing STOL (and crop dusters) immediately level in low (six inches) ground effect and accelerate much more rapidly than on the surface with the drag of wheels. By accelerating rapidly level in low ground effect, they can then zoom over (as Wolfgang points out) the obstruction with the outcome much less in doubt at Vcc rather than at Vx. Why are normal pilots taught the far less efficient and far more dangerous short field technique?
Since the RV-12's takeoff roll is 700 feet, it'd have to be a pretty short area to require a short field takeoff. Why they teach to immediately climb at Vx once airborne - I don't know. My guess is that on paper it looks best to initiate the climb as steeply and as soon as possible. I am reminded of the takeoff that Charles Lindbergh did - from a muddy, wet field. He kept it low until the last second and then zoomed to clear trees at the departure end.
14 seconds, that’s quick! I’ll have to time the SportCruiser that I fly. It’s hard to hold the plane in ground effect
I suspect that if I jammed the power in all at once, I could do better than 14 seconds, but i tend to pour the coal in slowly. In another video i will have to try a short field takeoff and time that one.
Same at 2 stroke oil. Loosen the lid and squeeze.
I figured there were other applications - I'm just too easily impressed, I guess.
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We need to do it again some time.
What a nice treat, for both you and your grandson to share a flight together. He’s so close to being a pilot himself. Maybe one day down the road, when you’re ready to hang up your wings, you could give him the RV…at a good price.
It'll be a hard day when I have to hang up the keys to my RV.
I enjoy your videos. Keep em coming!!
Getting close to number 100. Plan to keep filming.
Thanks Steve. Great to see the love of aviation continues in your family. ❤
I'm a lettle jealous - in time he will be paid to fly while i have to pay my own way.
Nice country sites in your area. Up here in New York, too many commercial jets, cars, people and buildings.
Hi Jeff. Every flight here i am reminded of just how much of this state is undeveloped. We have square miles of trees interrupted occasionally with a development of some kind. And I recall many flights during which i never see another plane in the air. It's nice.
Thank you. Waiting for part two.
There it is! 😀
Hi, another great video, thank you. The Micco carries a huge amount of fuel. 73 gallons / 68 useable. Quite a bit of weight there which will impact overall performance. Like you, I'm tickled with my RV-12iS. Only 20 gallons fuel, but it will do 120 knots. I tend to buzz around at ~90 knots. It flies well there and at ~4,600 rpm burns a whopping 2.8 gph!
Vans got it right!
That is an *epic* displaced threshold…must be for noise abatement. I’m not seeing any wacky obstacles. Normally, I’d check the A/FD but it’s late and I’m feeling particularly lazy
I think you’re right. There are three schools under the final to 32. You also fly a right pattern since the town is immediately south of the airport. All for noise abatement.
When you took off a notice you literally shoved you right foot to the floor then backed off as you built airspeed. I have to do the same thing in my RV 12. Keep that grin.
Lol same here…on some days, I even need a bit of right braking, too. I just always make sure I have “feet on the floor” by 30kt
My technique is to add power gradually - at times i reach full power at liftoff. It's nice to have a long runway so i can do that.
My wife and I are enjoying flying to many small towns in Iowa with my RV-12. We usually borrow an airport courtesy car and explore the town.
That's the way to do it! In Part Two, we go into town courtesy of our grandson who lives/works there.
You’re just stoking my dreams! I saw the RV-12is at Oshkosh and I haven’t been able to shake it. Thank you for this video. I’m enjoying everything on your channel!
Thanks for watching! I'll try to keep it good.
I really like the iS. I had one of the very first RV-12 kits that came out (number 18). I flew it for a couple of years and really enjoyed it, hey it was far superior to the C-150 I owned before that. I eventually sold it to move up and I now have an RV-8, but there may come a time when I need to down size and if so, the RV-12 will be my choice again.
Well, an RV-8 is quite a plane, too. At my small airport we have an RV-6, a -7, a -8, a -10, and 2 -12s. Lots of Vans influence.
The RV 12 is the one I’d get, if I was to get one.
Hi Jeff. Keep your sights on the -12. Maybe one day soon you'll have yours.
Thanks Steve. Vans call it Total Performance.
They do eke out a ton of performance from a 100 HP engine. It is such a slick design that it is hard to get it to slow down without flaps.
Appreciate the video
Thanks Paul. I keep missing you at the BBQ. LOL
Lovin Your RV-12 Airplane Videos!
I appreciate the words of support. I'll try to keep it up.
That looked like it would've been a fun ride in the honda jet
Yeah, he was pulling some G's there.
Thanks for the video. With such a small measure of additive, I would consider keeping a 1 gallon can of fuel to mix it with then funnel
Just following manufacturers suggestion, Paul. It seems crazy that 1/2 ounce would disperse into the whole 20 gallon tank but that's what they say.
The black tank treatment I use in our camper comes in the exact same bottle. Good for whoever molds those bottles.
Also my fertilizer. And they make very similar bottles for 2 stroke oil.
You were way ahead of me on figuring that out, then. It is a pretty cool idea to integrate the measure into the molded bottle like that.
Have you considered using MOGAS instead of AVGAS then you would not need Decalin? Every Rotax I have seen recommends not using AVGAS...
Hi Scott. This comes up a lot. When I travel, other airports don't have MOGAS on site. I can only assume 100LL will be available. So far my Rotax is happy with that.
Way to keep that Tesla on the centerline!!
Following that imaginary nose wheel on the centerline. Gotta keep up the practice.
I love engineering too. I noticed the absolutely beautiful paint on your plane. I hadn’t ever seen the finish so up close before. It is just spectacular looking. Looking forward to the next video you teased.
Thanks Jeff. I am guessing you've seen the Lovin' It video.
I'll wait for that answer. Hopefully it won't be too long.
Check out my Lovin' It video. LOL
Where is a $75/hour Cirrus?
I saw it advertised as a club rate. Obviously there are club dues that offset the hourly rate. Don’t ask me today where I saw that - it was a year ago. I’m too old to recall after that time has passed.
Brother, at 3:33, that is no RV-6. RV-6 is side by side. But I love your videos. Thanks for posting them.
OMG! You are so right! Let's try again. RV-8 this time around.
Yep, on spark plug will increase the EGT.
This was a lesson learned for me. I accept that answer, but the physics of why EGT would rise escapes me at the moment. You'd think two sparks would equal more complete combustion and higher temp, but i guess not.
Can you divulge how much your mechanic charged for the inspection?
Of course fees will vary by geography and cost of living. One other factor - how good is your guy? My guy is the best there is. $1500 was price for the condition inspection. Add to that parts or materials required by any outstanding Service Bulletins as well as disposables like oil, filter, brake pads, spark plugs and in my case new tires and tubes. It goes without saying that flying a plane is not a poor man's sport.
I know you bought the plane from Van’s already built and are ineligible for the repairman’s certificate. But isn’t there a several-day course you can take to be able to do some repairs yourself? I don’t know if that would include a condition inspection, but changing your own tires and fluids would really save you some money.
@@jeff11030 Although it may be true that I could do some of the maintenance items, I prefer to have my A&P do it all.
Hi Jeff! There may or may not be. I haven't looked into that because I am committed to having every maintenance task be done by an A&P. The day will come when I will sell the plane, and I want to be able to say it is 100% maintained by a pro.
@@jeff11030 Currently, you may maintain and inspect a LSA like this one by taking a 120 hour course to obtain a Light Sport Repairman certificate with a Maintenance rating. This may change with the MOSAIC final rule...
Appreciate your videos so much! Really a bit scary about the plug wire. I'm an engineer but just student pilot, and will se if I can't look at the design w.r.t. plugs and see what they've done.
Yeah, it's curious to me that there's not a more secure connection there - seems like vibrations could over time lead to a separation.
Hi, re: swapping tires right to left to optimize wear -To clarify, you actually need to split the rims and re-mount the tires inside to outside on the same rim. What was the outer edge of the tire then becomes the inner edge. I just did this at ~200 hrs on my RV-12. One caveat - the tires when new come marked with a red dot on one side that is to be matched to the stem. I believe the red dot indicates the "lightest" side of the tire and matching to the stem (believed to be heavy) gives you the best as-mounted initial balance, without actually doing a dynamic balance as is done when mounting car tires. I found that after swapping my tires around on the rims I had a small amount of vibration when (only) at high speed on the runway. I believe that is because after swapping, the red dot is now on the opposite from the stem, therefore introducing some mis-balance. I haven't yet investigated having them balanced. Great video. I'm surprised you only got a High EGT condition and not a Lane Fault when the spark plug wire separated. Like your plane, my Hobbs meter hours are slightly greater than Tach hours. Not sure why that is. Yes, I would have informed my passenger of what might be an increased risk, though likely minimal risk. All the best. Scott
Your observation about the red dot is interesting - I'll have to remember that when I do the swap. As for the Hobbs/Tach difference, I suppose the Hobbs starts ticking as soon as the master is turned on. I do things like update my maps when engine is not on, so maybe that accounts for the difference.
Hi thanks for sharing this video. Can you please tell me where you got that Jack? What a perfect way to get the plane off the ground for wheel service.
Wish I could - but that jack belongs to my A&P. One of many specialized tools he has. You might be able to Google it and identify it based on a match to the image. I'm guessing you'd need to use it a lot to justify the cost of buying.
Thank you
Bought an RV. Thanks to Trump for all the tax breaks! Sucks to be poor
Have fun with your RV! It's one way to make flying affordable, even for us poor folks. 🤣
How much more $ will the IFR package be ?
Good question! I have no idea, and I'm not certain Vans offers an IFR equipped version. If it takes an after-market upgrade to add the necessary avionics, then I'm sure the cost would depend on the product you choose. But I'll bet it wouldn't be cheap.
Thanks for sharing, love the breakdown of costs versus driving. Dupage is a great airport that has always treated me well.
Been there done that. Gotta know when to turn around. Thunderstorms in summer and ice in the winter.
I enjoyed learning aviation weather in flight school. In my days we planned, briefed, and filed over the phone WXBrief. Fore flight is impressive but still use E6B manual flight planning & low altitude charts as backup. What’s most impressive is your decision to safely Go or No Go. Appreciate the uploads.
Interesting video. Makes a strong case for getting your instrument rating if you want to use GA for serious travel. Given what was shown, this was an “easy” flight if instrument rated and proficient.
@@malibujack4852 Quite right! Even though I am instrument rated myself with quite a few hours IFR, I fly today as a Sport Pilot. I have missed many opportunities for XC travel that otherwise would have been simple.
Good job with checking and turning back. I flew a 3500 mile weekly pipeline loop in the Midwest and often had to get up close in marginal conditions and lay up. Three to five days generally worked, but it was continuous for two weeks occasionally. DOT shutdown of a line not flown in 21 days made skipping a week problematic. With family and passengers, there should not be even this much pressure.
@@jimmydulin928 it is important to me that my wife is reassured that I will never take risky chances. I don’t want her to ever hesitate to fly with me.
Good call to abort the mission Steve. Was it turbulent under those Cu's? Would love to see how a condition inspection is done.
@@alansaunders1407 Hi Alan! Actually it wasn’t really bumpy. I think as the clouds become more overcast it dampens out any thermals. Even in the rain it was fairly smooth. Just wet - the plane leaks. As for the condition I need to make sure A&P is good with it.
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