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The Harsh World of Missing Globals & Key Depletions | The W Podcast Clips
Our latest guest in The W Podcast talks about the harsh world of Mythic+ in World of Warcraft where missing one single global as a healer usually leads to depleting your key. Huge punishment especially when you consider that there are no second attempts or redos and you have to grind all the way back just to try again. Some interesting and wild takes on how this experience can be improved are also mentioned so let us know what do you think about that!
Watch the full episode here:
th-cam.com/video/jvzMrwf_KTE/w-d-xo.html
Follow The W Podcast using the links below:
The W Podcast on TH-cam: www.youtube.com/@TheWPodcast_WoW
Find out more about our guest JustDiscipline in the links below:
www.youtube.com/@JustDiscipline
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Wolvy on TH-cam: www.youtube.com/@thelegendbehindthecow
Wolvy's Discord: discord.gg/bjFkEqSUa2
Follow SaucyJay using the links below:
www.twitch.tv/saucyjay
www.youtube.com/@saucyjay99
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Mandatory Dispels Need to GO | The W Podcast Clips
มุมมอง 227 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
Mandatory dispels in Mythic have been a hot topic in World of Warcraft recently. It seems that nobody enjoys them, neither in lower keys, nor in higher ones within title range. Certain classes have embed disadvantage in certain dungeons and that is extremely unfair if you are trying to PUG your keys and you end up facing a problem in your key that you simply cannot solve because you are the wro...
WoW is For FUN, Not For the Meta! feat. JustDiscipline | The W Podcast Ep. 09
มุมมอง 28912 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
The W Podcast is about everything related to World of Warcraft, hosted by your friendly neighborhood healers - Wolvy & SaucyJay. Join us as we explore Azeroth from the perspective of everyday players striving to conquer Mythic raid bosses and navigate the treacherous PUGs of Mythic . With weekly episodes, we share the highs, lows, the good, the bad and the ugly of pressing buttons and managing ...
Blizzard Can Use Delves & Follower Dungeons to Make the Game Better | The W Podcast Clips
มุมมอง 4814 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
We have talked a lot about delves and follower dungeons but it's never enough. They are essential part of the game, many players use them as their main and sometimes only way to experience the game so Blizzard needs to keep working on improving them. Wolvy and SaucyJay have some wild takes in this The W Podcast episode where they suggest having much better gear obtained through them, infinite s...
Mentorship Program Can Save World of Warcraft | The W Podcast Clips
มุมมอง 4416 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
SaucyJay and Wolvy are cooking! In this The W Podcast episode they are making some suggestions on how to improve the game. One of the wild takes is to introduce a mentorship program in-game which would allow the most experienced veterans to teach the new players. Whether if it's delves, raid, mythic or just questing / leveling, with the right implementation and incentives, this could be game ch...
Player Performance System Can Greatly Improve M+ in World of Warcraft | The W Podcast Clips
มุมมอง 26319 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
What if you can upvote players at the end of Mythic dungeons in World of Warcraft? If you think that one of your teammates excelled and performed really well in your dungeon run, you can give them thumbs up. Everyone would then be able to see that they have received approval previously which would incentivize people to play better and behave better to contribute to a better game experience in T...
How to Make Tanks Immortal Again | The W Podcast Clips
มุมมอง 5121 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
Here's a wild take on how to make tanks feel good again without actually reverting the nerfs that made them miserable at first place. Obviously Mythic specific which would only apply to that type of content but it's probably about time to separate it from raiding all together so why not? Probably not a bad idea to muddle with during Season 2 of The War Within! Watch the full episode here: th-ca...
Shorter 3-Boss Dungeons for Season 2 in The War Within Please! | The W Podcast Clips
มุมมอง 98วันที่ผ่านมา
Mythic provides great game play and player experience in World of Warcraft. However, every dungeon is different and some of them have very long timers along with up to 5 boss encounters. At the same time other dungeons are much shorter and only introduce 3 bosses. And it seems that the shorter format is much more desired and better received for numerous reasons so may be Blizzard needs to focus...
The W Podcast WISHLIST for Season 2 in TWW - Our Wild Takes | The W Podcast Ep. 08
มุมมอง 143วันที่ผ่านมา
The W Podcast is about everything related to World of Warcraft, hosted by your friendly neighborhood healers - Wolvy & SaucyJay. Join us as we explore Azeroth from the perspective of everyday players striving to conquer Mythic raid bosses and navigate the treacherous PUGs of Mythic . With weekly episodes, we share the highs, lows, the good, the bad and the ugly of pressing buttons and managing ...
How to Make Tanks Great Again? | The W Podcast Clips
มุมมอง 28814 วันที่ผ่านมา
You know that his question is coming: How to make tanks great again? We have a special tank guest on The W Podcast this time around in the face of Sha and of course, we had to fire up this hot question at him. Hear his opinion and let us know if you agree on what needs to happen so we have better experience in Season 2 of The War Within. Watch the full episode here: th-cam.com/video/43fzG7AoVHE...
Do TANKS Have Favorite Healers? | The W Podcast Clips
มุมมอง 63121 วันที่ผ่านมา
Having a special guest as Sha who plays tank on The W Podcast just triggered us to ask the question: Do tanks have favorite healers to play with? As healers in World of Warcraft we always complain that certain classes are taking a lot more damage when compared to others but does it feel the same for tanks when it comes to their healers? Find out in this short The W Podcast clip and let us know ...
What Do TANKS Think About the Tank Nerfs? | The W Podcast Clips
มุมมอง 1.1K21 วันที่ผ่านมา
Another hot topic in The W Podcast has been the tank nerfs that hit us in The War Within and how they affected the community and the Mythic scene. And now that we have a special guest in the face of Sha who happens to be a tank, we couldn't resist but ask for their opinion on everything that happened in World of Warcraft this season and how it feels for them to be playing in this new environmen...
This is How The M+ Solo Queue System Should Work | The W Podcast Clips
มุมมอง 34721 วันที่ผ่านมา
We have talked about Mythic Solo Queue system before as a way to improve the experience in The War Within. However, in the latest The W Podcast episode we had a special guest Sha who actually proposed a very detailed scheme on how exactly that system would work in-game. He compared it with other examples from other Blizzard games such as Diablo which means that it can easily be implemented in W...
The New Catalyst Charge Achievement is Actually a Nerf | The W Podcast Clips
มุมมอง 19821 วันที่ผ่านมา
One of the 11.1 patch announcement for the next big patch in The War Within got us really excited but for the wrong reasons. We went from thinking that we are going to get multiple charges to use in the catalyst right away instead of the current single token that we can obtain to very quickly realizing that if you read the text a bit more carefully... you actually get LESS than what you would g...
What Happened to All The Tanks? | The W Podcast Ep. 07
มุมมอง 1.2K21 วันที่ผ่านมา
The W Podcast is about everything related to World of Warcraft, hosted by your friendly neighborhood healers - Wolvy & SaucyJay. Join us as we explore Azeroth from the perspective of everyday players striving to conquer Mythic raid bosses and navigate the treacherous PUGs of Mythic . With weekly episodes, we share the highs, lows, the good, the bad and the ugly of pressing buttons and managing ...
NO More Key Depletions is BAIT | The W Podcast Clips
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NO More Key Depletions is BAIT | The W Podcast Clips
DINARS, Raid Portal & New Raid Buff for EVERYONE | The W Podcast Clips
มุมมอง 4828 วันที่ผ่านมา
DINARS, Raid Portal & New Raid Buff for EVERYONE | The W Podcast Clips
Datamined 11.1 Changes Are CRAZY | The W Podcast Ep. 06
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Datamined 11.1 Changes Are CRAZY | The W Podcast Ep. 06
Tuning Doesn't Always Work As Intended | The W Podcast Clips
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Tuning Doesn't Always Work As Intended | The W Podcast Clips
Mythic Dungeon Changes Are Too Little And Too Late | The W Podcast Clips
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Mythic Dungeon Changes Are Too Little And Too Late | The W Podcast Clips
EVERY Healer Now Feels Like a Disc Priest | The W Podcast Clips
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EVERY Healer Now Feels Like a Disc Priest | The W Podcast Clips
The NEW 11.0.7 Patch is a BANGER | The W Podcast Ep. 05
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The NEW 11.0.7 Patch is a BANGER | The W Podcast Ep. 05
The Ultimate Healer Tier List for The War Within Season 1 | The W Podcast Clips
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The Ultimate Healer Tier List for The War Within Season 1 | The W Podcast Clips
The SECRET To Healing in World of Warcraft | The W Podcast Clips
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The SECRET To Healing in World of Warcraft | The W Podcast Clips
Gearing Problems In TWW Can Be Easily SOLVED | The W Podcast Clips
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Gearing Problems In TWW Can Be Easily SOLVED | The W Podcast Clips
The WORST Affix Ever in World of Warcraft | The W Podcast Clips
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The WORST Affix Ever in World of Warcraft | The W Podcast Clips
WoW Has A Tank Problem | The W Podcast Clips
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WoW Has A Tank Problem | The W Podcast Clips
Is the 20-Man Mythic Raid Too Limiting? | The W Podcast Clips
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Is the 20-Man Mythic Raid Too Limiting? | The W Podcast Clips
World of Warcraft Has a Hidden Boss and It's NOT What You'd Expect | The W Podcast Clips
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World of Warcraft Has a Hidden Boss and It's NOT What You'd Expect | The W Podcast Clips
What Has Happened to HEALING!? feat. LBNinja7 | The W Podcast Ep. 04
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What Has Happened to HEALING!? feat. LBNinja7 | The W Podcast Ep. 04

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  • @Snerk1338
    @Snerk1338 วันที่ผ่านมา

    nope

  • @UpstreamPrism04
    @UpstreamPrism04 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would suggest anyone who is playing something that is considered not "Meta" to check out the raider io ladder for the big boys who stream on twitch and find a creator whos goals within the game align with yours. This has worked for me personally. I think Ultimate Penance would be a fantastic ability if we didnt have the movement requirements that we are experiencing currently in the game. Nice conversation, hopefully Saucyjay gets that power back on sooner rather than later.

  • @saucyjay99
    @saucyjay99 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sadly, I missed the opportunity to interview one of my favorite content creators, but I'm so happy we still made it happen!!

  • @JustDiscipline
    @JustDiscipline 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the interview, love it!

    • @tronam
      @tronam วันที่ผ่านมา

      Loved hearing your thoughts on the game. Thanks for doing it.

  • @ObserverDoel
    @ObserverDoel 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes and then you woke up and realized that you have no idea what AI is or how it works. Also, the idea is horrible in the first place, it's annoying enough when a person messes up, imagine the game messing itself up and taking you down with it. Great experience. Jesus...... As if a megacorp could "just use AI for testing their product" and they just "didn't think about it".

  • @jarlemalmin
    @jarlemalmin 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can save world of warcraft? Hello? World of warcraft has not been this healthy since Legion... titles like this makes me sad...

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Numbers show differently, especially for M+ :(

  • @JSoftpaw
    @JSoftpaw 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So make it more toxic.... So let me tell you why you have people that actually don't seem to care or want to do much... Maybe the person love to do Mythic raiding and just despise M+ content, but there's no other way to cap out your gilded each week... Now if it's actually pushers, I can't comment... Let us cap our gilded in delves instead of capping it, don't force people in to doing something they hate more than anything just so they can play the content they actually do enjoy... Give more different avenues for people to gather the things that they NEED to continue playing the content that they enjoy to play, don't gatekeep and tell people. "Well you have to do this to do that." it's not helpful, you are now talking about wanting to have a way to make people hate the already toxic system even more, but they are still forced in to having to do it, so now... Instead of just turning their brains off each week and forcing them selves to just get the 90 gilded out of the way and the mythic vaults slots, they would probably just quit all together cause now they are going to be forced to think and take something they can't stand seriously... The fact is, M+ is the only way to cap anything at the moment, which forces people that can't stand the content but LOVE mythic raiding, to do it... So that's the people you will see in +8 and +10, Very veeeeery few of the overall keys done are past +10, majority of all keys are in the +2 +10 and most of it is cause they just don't like the system, cause if they did, they wouldn't stop at +10, they would go beyond that, cause the system is meant to push yourself, but the fact is. People do not want to and I quit wow because it was the ONLY way to keep up with the rest of my mythic raid team on gear and I started to feel like I was holding the team back because I refused to touch M+ I forced my self to do it now and again, but it burns me out and makes me hate and dread the time I spend in wow, so I quit... I don't have fun only doing heroic raiding, your character's progression is never done till you have the best gear that you can get to me and CE... That's what's fun, not sitting with the gear that's juuust not good enough to be great, not having AotC, it just feels like I got up to the last few steps of the stairs and just, stopped there, lingering, nothing really accomplished.. And M+ has no accomplishment to me, I'm not competitive, I don't care about scores or medals, it has literally no meaning to me AT ALL, only raiding has meaning to me and is fun to me... And I loved Delves, I could take my time and just have fun, not feel like I was just shoved and forced in to Dark souls which I already don't like, and then told that I have to react to every single hit coming at me but also speed run the game and not just take my time to experience the lore and story, that's M+ to me and I want no part in it... They capped Delves to 18 gilded now.. I mean great, at least they drop, but it's just not enough, I'd still have to do M+ to hit the 90 gilded earlier on in the season and I just do not want any part in that.... Just let people play the game how they want to play, if you give people more ways to do what they enjoy, the rest of you also won't have people like me who hate even being in your damn M+ group, you can't force people to do it, or force them to take it 100% serious like you do... You like and love the content, of course you are excited to give it your all, but there's many out there who just can't... It's like having to take out the dishes, doing the laundry, doing your taxes, taking out the trash... That's not how a game should feel, not for you, not for me, not for anyone... And this voting system is just going to make people hate it even more and then the game will lose more subs, until the numbers can't keep the game running anymore and it becomes a full free to play model where you have to pay to be able to equip purple gear and stuff and over time it becomes another TERA and forgotten in the past.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's interesting what percentage of the players is actually "forced" to play M+. Blizzard did say that they are focused on the quality and not the quantity when it comes to dungeons but I am not sure that's exactly true as you are correct - everyone has to do it, one reason or another. And if you remove those reasons, probably not that many people will be left

    • @thatsimbalanced2322
      @thatsimbalanced2322 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You have some valid points, but you forget to look at it from the other side. What about people that love high M+ and despise mythic raiding, but are forced to do mythic raiding because they need for example Spymasters to have the best gear possible. What's the solution? Just let me do Delves and buy Myth track Spymasters?

    • @JSoftpaw
      @JSoftpaw 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thatsimbalanced2322 I don't think M+ people should be forced to do mythic raiding either... Never liked that, no one should ever be forced to do anything or even feel forced to do something that they just do not like... That's my take on it... You should only play the parts of the game that you enjoy playing, never more. This is not real life at all where you have to do your chores, laundry and what not, it's a game, it should be an excape from all the drag and stress of life, but WoW just aren't.

    • @JSoftpaw
      @JSoftpaw 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ Yeah, but at least those who are left are people who actually love and enjoy that feature... I'm not one who says to get rid of stuff just cause I hate it, there are people who love M+ and they should still have the mode and if we can take the people that hate it and do not wanna spend time figuring stuff out, like mechanics, routes... Interrupts, that kinds of stuff, the people who actually like to do M+ have a much higher chance of getting people who like them, want to put in the work to get it done, instead of getting me who well, don't care... I've not looked at any guides for any of the dungeons what so ever, I don't bother to get special nameplates to see what to interrupt cause it has no space in my heart to care for it, I still done plenty of +10s though cause I had to and in DF I did push to 3k just to show some people that I can do it, I just really really do not want to, it's not fun for me at all.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thatsimbalanced2322 Isn't the new dinar token going to solve this next patch?

  • @sclerosislock
    @sclerosislock 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    AI art in the thumbnail. Womp womp. 20 bucks is all it takes to hire an artist, and folks will appreciate and notice. AI slop is slop

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We are looking for sponsors :)

  • @thatsimbalanced2322
    @thatsimbalanced2322 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A actually had this exact thought the other day. And I personaly think having the option to vote negativy would very much improve the toxicity and even gameplay. People would be scared they get negative rating by the other players so they wouldn't start arguments and just shut up, or actually use their dispells or kicks etc. Also yes, we have Rio score but it is basically a measurement of experience, not skill or attitude. I've met so mamy people with high rio and high dungeons completed and they were absolute trash at either dps, utility usage, survivability, or just a toxic fucks.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      People buy keys for IO and do delves and craft for gear so that is what it is. The negative voting though - pretty scared it can be easily abused in some situations.

  • @roninkoans6065
    @roninkoans6065 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We already have a nearly objective system of raider IO score, I’m doubtful adding a completely subjective system of random people’s opinions would do anything to further improve anything. I think people have this idea that if they do a really good job people will use it to compliment them, but in reality it would probably end up more like Amazon reviews where if you live up to expectations people would largely ignore the system altogether, and only use it when they have a complaint.

    • @thelegendbehindthecow
      @thelegendbehindthecow 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You might be right but at the same time it wouldn't hurt to experiment with something like that. Yes, you'd probably ignore it a lot but I've also had people saying "pog heals" at the end of the run. I had people praise the tank if they were exceptional. So if it ends up being used only in these outlined situations, it would also carry a lot more weight. Who knows though, may be absolutely noone would use it

    • @TheFabulousEnby
      @TheFabulousEnby 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't even know if the Mythic plus scoring system is enough at this point the amount of really really really really really bad players I see in the 27th to 2800 range is pretty staggering not that I would ever report them but it's not really an indication of how good somebody is as people can have friends take them to nearly 3K while not knowing anything about how to play.

    • @thelegendbehindthecow
      @thelegendbehindthecow 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ Yeah, I notice that too. Whether it's delves or people just buying keys, it's astounding how many ignorant players there are at high IO score and high ilvl gear. From that perspective IO score is often not enough to judge and may be performance system would help but who knows

  • @marck8519
    @marck8519 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These ideas sound terrible. If you go with the "dampening" it would make long boss fights that are already stressful in high keys even worse or impossible. The second idea makes something that is already punishing (being down a player) much worse. Right now the tank dying is mostly a wipe and if the boss got a buff once a player is down it would mean anyone dying is a wipe if there is no cr available.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We kind of cooked it on the fly but it can definitely be improved - being down a player could be very small punishing % (or none) which would increase exponentially if more people die.

  • @scz91
    @scz91 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another W video. I think the mentorship program take is super interesting. If they implemented it at the beginning of a season it would be the most fair for everyone, in my opinion. Blizzard would be happy since people would have to play the game AND be pleasant to play with to receive after-key honors. Great idea

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fingers crossed! If they are not doing that good of a job educating us and teaching us about the game, then they should at least let the players do it themselves :)

  • @IJKez
    @IJKez 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The main reason why dungeons aren’t pug friendly is because Blizzard fails to create an in game voice chat. What multiplayer game nowadays does not have that? I don’t think they need to adjust their gameplay DESIGN because they are failing to have a sufficient communication tool. Every season the need for this increases.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is actually in-game voice chat that pops up when you join a group but noone ever click the button to join it. So it's not really Blizzard not offering the functionality, it's more the players who do not want to use it.

    • @IJKez
      @IJKez 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ I’d like to see all 5 party members automatically placed in voice chat. Similar to Overwatch, Call of Duty, Halo was, etc.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@IJKez That's a good take actually. Auto join would make people use this system more, regardless of whether they want to talk or not. May be worth experimenting on that as well!

  • @luuxii
    @luuxii 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am your average 3k M+ pugger. Every season I think to myself that I'll just tank M+, but then rather quickly I tend to get overly anxious when doing it. And then going back to dps.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Unfortunately that's totally understandable

  • @anjohnette5639
    @anjohnette5639 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very true! A druid HoTs cancel out stagger pretty effectively. 😁

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If only resto druid was in a better shape though.... :)

  • @convolutedmind
    @convolutedmind 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thought Golden Hour's interaction with Stagger got changed in WW prepatch. Could have sworn it hasn't been hitting as well as it did during Dragonflight.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Imagine more people playing both pres and brew so we actually have ways to test this :D

  • @runiih
    @runiih 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People don't want tanks, they want Prot Paladins specifically. If you queue up as non meta tank even with much higher IO needed you don't get invited, the community is brain-rotted in meta specs sadly.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      From experience, having IO score and ilvl for your gear is much more precedent than what you play but the meta bias is also there for sure!

  • @hyshade5132
    @hyshade5132 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Definitely a nerf, you go from getting a piece of good gear to a charge, big loss.

  • @prancinNOOB
    @prancinNOOB 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    An elo system for M+ would be cool. It could even be used to test the "lives vs timer" surveys were talking about.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very unlikely that Blizz would implement a system that would reduce your score if you fail in PvE though

  • @aarrondixon700
    @aarrondixon700 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I played from vanilla to WoD, then came back in TWW and was shocked with how powerful tanks are now in comparison. I could solo world bosses at an extremely low ilvl. I could easily solo dungeons up to heroics wearing greens and blues. I was amazed. It's surreal to me that this is what they're like AFTER a giant nerf. They must have been gods in DF. I'm sure it sucks for people who experienced a giant downgrade, but me, I'm just drunk on the power.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very interesting comment and experience! And yeah, tanks were even more powerful in DF believe it or not :)

  • @SuperGtimk5
    @SuperGtimk5 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was a main tank from wrath till now. I quit after brewmaster just got slapped with no love for the billionth time. Switched to ww and have not looked back. the nerfs honestly are not needed since the main issues with df was vdh and they nerfed vdh in what made them op

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, they nerfed VDH, they added a lot of tank busters, squished the key levels and when you add the tank nerfs on top of that - it became one big mess!

  • @Garlane
    @Garlane 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love and have been playing tank as my main role since WOTLK, been clearing challenge modes, heroic and mythic raids with my guild up until Shadowlands. I was excellent at the role, but returning to TWW M+ PUG 10+ is not fun whatsoever. The current tuning is just bullshit, and I am not setting foot in an M+ as a tank until Blizzard reels back on the bullshit.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It seems that they have managed to kill the "fun" part of tanking indeed :(

  • @zizthesin
    @zizthesin 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    12s have taught me that i've always been right about m+. Affixes are 100% unnecessary

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's the conclusion!

  • @jasonweiss3160
    @jasonweiss3160 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Disc is over-rated. Absolutely terrible in pugs.

    • @thelegendbehindthecow
      @thelegendbehindthecow 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It could be and it usually is! If you hit that one good group though, it's a breeze and it feels soooooo good to play. And yes, you can probably say that for every other healer but my two cents on the topic :)

  • @antoniosanches
    @antoniosanches 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love what you've proposed, there are plenty of solutions being proposed here on youtube, they just have to listen.

  • @americanmambi
    @americanmambi 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tanks should NEVER be getting 1 shot if they are appropriately geared for the dungeon!!!

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Up to a certain key level, yes, for sure!!!

    • @Gremlenz
      @Gremlenz 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheWPodcast_WoW what is the appropriate ilvl for each key? Is there a chart? I am 623 prot war

    • @Garlane
      @Garlane 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheWPodcast_WoW He is saying appropriately geared, which in my head means appropriately tuned for the character. Which should NEVER happen if the player is playing to the level as well. Certain key levels sounds like the limit for any group, but that should just be tuned so wack that it's impossible to do.

    • @micskoadam
      @micskoadam 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You will not live long enough via ilvl :D what key levels are you play day by day? 5-6?

  • @ericmats4662
    @ericmats4662 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    While i think a system like this would be the way to go if a que system was ever made. But i dont think it would work, or at least the que times would be hours. Spread out people over 8 dungeons and lets say 14 keys per dungeon. Thats basicly 112 different queues.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The 8 dungeons and the 14 key levels are here right now as well so it's not like the system would make this amount go up. Right now though people are picky and that prolongs the queues as often eligible people are overlooked for one reason or another. With a system in place that process would be potentially sped up so who knows, may be it could actually work. One thing is for sure though - we would like to see something being tested out :)

  • @SpartanLink
    @SpartanLink 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Was recommended your podcast by the youtube gods and I am enjoying it. Keep making these videos homies

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you very much! We shall do our best :)

  • @law6906
    @law6906 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a STUPID change. Just remove automatic key depletion. If people want to do lower keys then they can manually lower them. So the top 1% of the player base don't have to waste their time but the everyday player needs to waste their time.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That would be a bit too much to ask for. If there's no depletion, we will play like on tournament realm - go in, do enormous huge first pull, if it works, continue, if not just reset the dungeon. Not a very engaging type of game play style.

    • @law6906
      @law6906 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheWPodcast_WoW , I don't understand you logic. So people would do more risky first pulls? Why is that bad? How is that worse than a tank does that to your key then fails and you have to do an entire new dungeon just to get the key back to where you were? No matter what cookie cutter pull pattern people come up with i don't see the disadvantage of letting the players ALWAYS push their key for better. If you want to get to the next level key you have to do X if you cant then you can always stay at that lvl. At most i'd say lock keys by what they've done for all dungeons. Bad part about that is what if they avoid a dungeon because loots sucks.

  • @Stryken101
    @Stryken101 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m a prot warrior main. For me, I enjoy playing tank to beat the content. Once I “beat” the content, I quit until the next season.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Understandable. Imagine if the content was a bit more engaging though and you wouldn't have to quit!

  • @roninkoans6065
    @roninkoans6065 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On one hand it’s definitely telling that there’s a gameplay problem for tanks when streamers who are known for being god tier tanks like yoda and dorkie spend half the season playing as dps, but on the other hand every TH-camr, podcaster, and streamer complaining about new tanks and calling everyone who doesn’t meet their expectations “bad tanks” doesn’t really foster a healthy environment for encouraging anyone to learn to tank. Part of the reason there’s no tanks that meet peoples expectations is that is because they are actively encouraged to quit tanking before they ever get to that point.

    • @zizthesin
      @zizthesin 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@roninkoans6065 ive mained blood dk and mage since basicslly vanilla and raided from wrath onward. I played mage and dk equally through cata in raif. Main tanked through mop except soo where i played mage. Mted all through wod, legion and tier 1 bfa, quit until SL, did s1 SL on bdk. Vame back and did all of dragon flight tanking on bdk. This season i felt i needed to go dps because 1) frost is meta 2) dire state of tanking 3) out of control toxicity when playerd miss kickd and blame the tank. 4) just randomoy dying through defensives and feeling weaker than i ever have as a tank.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, everything you mentioned just piles up on top of all the changes that happened in game. And when you sum up everything, it doesn't bring us to a good place :(

    • @luuxii
      @luuxii 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Practising tanking and routes is just generally a bad experience, especially if one is not that great of a player

  • @saucyjay99
    @saucyjay99 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can see how sick I felt in this video lol. But we did it <3

    • @thelegendbehindthecow
      @thelegendbehindthecow 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You and I both, I could barely talk but we managed :)

  • @dragosbob5618
    @dragosbob5618 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This season was the worst season since they launched m+ especially for tanking missing a defensive gets you 1 shot blizz really delivered on we ant tank dmg to be smooth not spiky also healers didn't really swap from Dragonflight mentality they barely even try to heal tanks if you die as a tank you wipe the group you gotta plan the route deal with affixes intrerupt casts cause dps ignore intrerupts the dungeon rewards you 1 item from 10 dungeons in rest 50g people can't really be bothered to take so much responsability to top it off blizz posted tank nerfs for next season to give tank players a reason to play gj

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It definitely feels like they've missed the mark, especially on the "smooth and not spikey" damage part. And it seems they always do that :(

    • @zizthesin
      @zizthesin 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tanks are the least of the problems to make healing relevant. 1) healing is by % less effective than MOST expansions EVER. 2) the reason healing was irrelevant in low key DF was because of coordination of CC and defensive bloat on high util classes (mage for example) 3) at certain points in m+ one shotting will always happen. Its a matter of how early and how prohibitive it can be. With these 3 points we can effectively say blizzard had the right idea but targeted the wrong role. Blizzard did good by nerfing tank busters but the overall changes to tank survivability, especially after 10+ years of tanks being self sustainable, seems like s major rug pull and has taken away a lot of the skill expression in tanking. Pair that with the change to CC interrupts its even more on the tank than ever before for a party to succeed. Im not suprised tankd quit tanking. I only just now returned to bdk tanking because of community needing more tanks.

  • @roninkoans6065
    @roninkoans6065 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This just sounded like a lot of “everyone is a bad player except me.” Which is exactly part of the problem, if nobody is ever allowed to be bad then everyone is going to quit long before they ever have a chance to become good and you end up with a dead game mode because everyone is afraid to even try learning a new more difficult role like tanking or healing. At some point you’re gonna have to choose between ego, and having people to play a video game with, because the better you get at the game the better players you will call bad. You will reach a point where anyone doing below a 15 is trash to you and you can only do keys once a week because all 7 of the people good enough to be in your presence have other stuff to do most of the time.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, that's called complacency and when you add it up with the big egos that players in WoW have, you end up having quite the toxic environment specifically in M+ :(

  • @scz91
    @scz91 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My favorite poddy with one of my favorite tanks. Love it!

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cheers and thanks for tuning in! Happy new year :)

  • @UpstreamPrism04
    @UpstreamPrism04 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I enjoy the playstyle of tanking where you plan your defensives around your pulls. Unfortunately, the tanks with "rolling" cooldowns like warrior with 2 stacks of shieldwall talent and paladins can just roll the dungeon rotating through their defensive cooldown timings. Difficulty seems to be the wall for most people. I agree completely with Dragonflight spoiling. Enjoyed the conversation nice episode.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cheers, thanks for tuning in and happy new year!

  • @faldrya3057
    @faldrya3057 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I play tank, i don't main it, but because of the crest system, it's really annoying to gear up, you need to do like 100 dungeons to get geared, and i already play DPS and healer too, and just can't be bothered

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We can assume then that if you play all 3 roles, the tank would be the least favorite one :(

  • @AnthonyStatera
    @AnthonyStatera 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Correct me if I am wrong, does this mean essentially key depletion is not changing for the majority of player base? Because for a very short window from when you get the acheivement to when you start doing keys above 12 your keys won't deplete? If so it seems to me this is to incentivize players who have the acheivement to lower their keys manually to engage with more of the player base instead of pushing higher content (if they don't like key depletion), making LFG at higher level keys even more scarse, purhaps? I may be looking at this negatively however, just trying to wrap my head around is it worth the experience. I guess on the plus side they can could lower the amount you need to get the acheivement if this doesnt work, but then it seems the devs still think depletion of keys is critical to the structure of Mythic+

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, it is a very narrow window indeed - only the +12 key stone level. They are definitely set on keeping the depletion and I think they should, otherwise servers will turn into a tournament realm where you can attempt the same first pull over and over again. That said though, it's a nice first step in a direction where they can allow for more lenient depletion rules - for example, you could have several attempts instead of just one, or may be some kind of insurance that you can somehow get to make sure you are not depleting the key on this attempt, etc. Baby steps right now but they are steps so let's see where they will take us!

  • @Beholder505
    @Beholder505 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For your favorite class you slipped over ele and enh lol

  • @hifgames7076
    @hifgames7076 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    these are 11.1 changes

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes indeed! I guess we were a bit overexcited for the write up and the thumbnail but it is all fixed now. Thanks!

  • @brandijade7063
    @brandijade7063 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes it actually does feel like every healer..maybe not r sham though.

    • @thelegendbehindthecow
      @thelegendbehindthecow 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Even as rsham I need to preplan exactly how and when I'll be using my CDs past +10 if everyone is to survive a aoe damage boss mechanic. Still feels exactly as I'm playing disc to me :)

  • @TheJregis
    @TheJregis หลายเดือนก่อน

    The new patch is a joke! The ring is a joke. M+ is beyond dead. It’s a lifeless corpse at this point. The game is actually dying…y’all just haven’t figured that out yet. The best analogy for what’s wrong is: Blizzard let us waste 2.5 months before finally fixing crest. Thin about that from a player perspective and ask yourself if your time is respected. Feral Druid still sucks ass. There are so many more issues and there isn’t enough room here to type them Out. Blizzard’s stagnation and refusal to promptly fix things, most notably M+ has cost them their player base.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's clear why the frustration is there and no one can blame you. We gotta give them a little bit of credit though. Shadowlands was dead for 2 years instead of 2 months with changes there that could might as well be skipped altogether so what they are doing right now is so much more and so much into the right direction. We can still complain and be unhappy and quit but they are speeding things up, they are listening, so who knows how everything will look next patch or next expansion? /hopium off

  • @leeroyj7300
    @leeroyj7300 หลายเดือนก่อน

    honestly, healers as an entire role just need to be redone, it's directly hurting the game because of how they currently function

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, easy to say but the question is how? The healer role provides unique game play style in WoW and yes, may be not in it's best spot right now but it's also not easy to figure out how to pull it out from there.

  • @CrippsyS
    @CrippsyS หลายเดือนก่อน

    No offence but having LBNinja on here immediately devalues any confidence I have in this podcast... The stuff he recommends for MW is just the spread of misinformation and his videos are actively talked about in the MW discord as something you' should avoid... 😕 These tier lists are also stupid, incorrect and I don't even know where to begin. 🤷‍♂

    • @Wraghelm
      @Wraghelm 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I really like LBNinja’s general vibe but yeah, unfortunately he does not have a great reputation amongst the really good/reputable mistweavers

  • @Neverlucky_WoW
    @Neverlucky_WoW หลายเดือนก่อน

    who could have thought, that ppl stop playing tank, if you nerf their selfheal and you get 35% dmg cut on trinkets and other dmg effects on gear. =) Plus its funny that 3 non tank player are guessing why no one wants to play tank. Its simply no fun above +11(or the max vault i-lvl of the season), when you dont play prot pala you are in danger to lose aggro against enh shamies with their rnd crazy spike burst dmg, but you cant invest in more dmg(=aggro), because you have to survive the stuff.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have a small surprise for (one of) the next episodes - we may or may not be talking to a tank that will shred much more light on these topics from a different perspective. Hopefully, you'll enjoy that!

  • @JustDiscipline
    @JustDiscipline หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish people focused less on these lists and more on educating the player base. Not good for the community.

    • @CrippsyS
      @CrippsyS หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustDiscipline this ⬆️ and it’s cooked. 👨🏻‍🍳

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW หลายเดือนก่อน

      Feel free on checking our hosts main content - plenty of guides and education there especially at the start of the seasons when everything is fresh and ripe for learning :)

  • @arawyn7579
    @arawyn7579 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't understand ppl saying disc is fun. Kinda reminds me of lock in later stages of TBC, mostly spamming 1 button

    • @thelegendbehindthecow
      @thelegendbehindthecow หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well as I said in the podcast (might have been before the tier list), it's quite relaxing and comforting to go and play disc after you've pushed keys on the other healers where you run out of keybinds half way through your spell book and it requires a PhD to figure out the sequence of buttons to press to keep everyone alive. In comparison Disc is so much chill and I can see why it could be boring but for me it's amazing as an alt.

  • @jonathan13co
    @jonathan13co หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with the 1st and 3rd takes on disc. I feel like voidweaver has made it more forgiving and gives it fantastic throughput, and those 2 things have always been major setbacks of the spec. It is much more fun to play atm, imo. I'm glad I'm no longer stuck with holy, because in previous seasons I felt disc was unnecessarily punishing for me personally.

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes! And it seems it's getting even more love in the next patch :) We'll be talking about it in the next episode for sure again!

  • @donna589
    @donna589 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally sanity...yes...I've been wanting a foot pedal for years...like organists...

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha, best idea for a xmas present?

  • @Hadesxo027
    @Hadesxo027 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The "collecting orbs" is a terrible affix as there are numerous scenarios where you actually cannot do it (e.g. siege last boss, grim last boss, etc) and you essentially buff the boss. While its not an issue on sub 10 keys - on fortified, I can guarantee it absolutely slaps (or slams if we remain in siege example) the crap out of the group on a 14-15 key. The only thing Blizzard should have done is simply make affixes more reasonable. E.g. Sanguine instead of "just healing" - making it 1. absorb area which reduces dmg taken by 80% for 15 secs, then disappears 2. heals mobs, but sanguine pool has some HP (capped at 10) which after it heals the pool shrinks its size (according to its hp) Raging: just remove that damn "immune to cc" effect, it is still punishing I was a 3.5k player for 9 seasons, but this is the first season I dont feel it. In fact I kinda hate this season. Subpar 45% uptime evokers everwhere, people with little knowledge trying (and sometimes getting boosted - thus timing) 13-15 keys. Which is nothing unusual, but previously the difficulty was easier and more forgiving. Now should I really start telling a mage on a 14 dawn when and how to use alter time? or should I raise healer's attention that "hey buddy unavoidable big dam dam is incoming, pls focus on healing" .

    • @TheWPodcast_WoW
      @TheWPodcast_WoW หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sadly it seems that most of the affixes "missed" their purpose and the difficulty curve is at an all time high. Definitely pushing a lot more players away :(