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@@vansantsam really is that all it’s about. How about having a choke when you’re shooting slugs. I bought an Acura sees in the barrel making process. There’s a lot more to it than that.

The crap is obviously what you own. If you’re going to make a comment, make a video posted on TH-cam message me here and show me how your poorly made FX product shoots at 100 yards. Don’t make a comment unless you got something to show you get up on my site you’ll see my air rifle shooting under a half inch group everyone I own at 100 yards. With slugs, of course, over 1080 FPS everyone of them. So you got nothing but that big mouth.

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@@davidmayoh657 get up there on amazing airguns see everyone of my air rifle shoot. Every single one including that junk FX bobcat I sold. When I got done with that liner shot under 1 inch. Which you don’t see with FX products

@@bobjoatmon1993 I agree they can be off-center, but what Matthew said was the ends were centered, but when he cut the barrel in the middle, it was off-center, so he saying that the drill bit itself bent in the middle and then came back to center. It made no sense.

Do you have an FX air rifle?

@@bobjoatmon1993 you know the funny thing is. We’ve got Walther they’ve been around how long very long time. We’ve got CZ who makes the best barrels of any of the older manufacturers. Any of their AR rifles shoot a half inch group at 100 yards. I have seen them shoot a 3 inch group at 500 yards with the epic two that has a CZ barrel, and that was with slugs. But then we have these Chinese companies who are relatively new to the market. Under 10 years experience making barrels. But they really pushed hard. Rifling depth ,width. Testing all different groove in land counts. And wind in that short time they have become one of the best barrel makers.Huben and AEA . Snow peak. Or just some of the guns. Check out my video, most accurate slug, air gun in the world. Any rifle I have air rifle shoots a half inch or under at 100 yards with slugs at 1100 FPS or faster. I’ve got a new video coming out on my K1. Sheets under a half inch at 1140 FPS at 100 yards.

@@amazingairguns6350 and yet, I've turned barrel blanks that the bore hole was centered on both ends yet when I cut them to length, the hole WAS off center. That's why it's important to pay the extra for 'gaged barrels' where bore trueness has been checked optically. A lot of gunsmiths just put the barrel between centers and do whatever taper or OD reduction is required but that barrel will never be as inherently accurate as one that was straight bored to begin with. Like I said, for deep boring of barrels and artillery, the work turns one direction and the 'drill', the boring tool turns the opposite direction (a standard lathe doesn't do this, the work turns but the drill / boring bar stays stationary in the tailstock AND IS PRONE TO WALK) and the forces that cause walking csncel each other. Hammer forged barrels have issues too, there may be hard and soft spots in the tubing used so it comes out bent, the manufacturer straightens it but it will not be as accurate as one that forges straight. I have 5 FX liners in .25 and one is total crap, I even called them in Europe to discuss the issues as I believe bits a QC failure and wanted to send it to them to evaluate (but couldn't because of US federal 'arms shipments' law, couldn't find a workaround that didnt require too much expense and paperwork, wasn't worth it) and maybe get it replaced so it does happen. I have one that was excellent, I then proceeded to use the carbon fiber sleeve and FULLY epoxy the liner, sleeve, barrel housing into one monolith mass, then epoxy an over sleeve on top of that and its super stiff so much less harmonic vibration and better consistency.

@@amazingairguns6350 yes, a FX Maverick, Wildcat and a Impact M3

@@KentReed-g9e thank you

@@farzadzamanfar1904 that’s pretty simple. I have a really great understanding of how the air flow is where it flows from. What pressures need to be. I have to watch the video. I don’t know if I said something wrong. I’m coming out with some new videos, chill and pressures. Working pressures. Oh my guns shoot over 1100 FPS they’re all supersonic and they all shoot under a half inch group at 100 yards. I’ll be showcasing how top guys shooting expensive guns saying that you can’t shoot. Super sonically accurately is totally wrong. It actually helps your accuracy with slugs.

@@amazingairguns6350 sorry man I didn't mean to offend you Where you were talking about replacing the valve with the plastic one the direction you described was reverse But maybe I'm wrong Thanks

@@farzadzamanfar1904 how can I be mad if I made a mistake and you called me out for it. I’d be pretty ignorant. It’s not you . It’s a good thing. If I made a mistake I need to correct it. I got some really good videos coming up. Lotta good stuff mostly for slugs but you can use it with pellets to.

@@farzadzamanfar1904 AEA has a really great lineup coming out. They’re all gonna have the option to filter the 7000 psi. They will be shooting 1200 FPS with heavy slugs. And her accuracy is unbelievable. It’s awakening that you see a new company 7 years old. Making barrels so precise that they are achieving accuracy. That companies have been around for 100 years can’t get close to. Check out the MCAR . I think the backyard airguns just did a video on it. He’s shooting it at 5000 psi fill pressure so lower pressure. And it still shoots unbelievable groups of 400 yards. I messaged him I told him to get the 7000 PSI kick so he can tighten the group up to half of what it is. And that air gun looks like a Barrett 50 CAL I think it’s 5 foot tall. You gotta check it out.

@@farzadzamanfar1904 I just hope that the prices don’t skyrocket. Everybody should be able to shoot a really great air rifle. But not at a crazy price. The gauntlet two SL 30 with 78 grain slugs. A $500 gun will shoot a 2 inch group at 200 yards. You don’t have to be rich to be extremely accurate. Do you

@@clivenorwell8388 back in the 30s and 40s they were making rifle barrels in the US with the last 10 inches rifled. And they worked OK but when they rifled the whole barrel that’s when they sign improvement and pick up in accuracy. Furthermore, your analysis of that FX liner with the slug not gripping. Their smooth twist. Is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. So you think it’s good for the slug not to be gripped and fall through and then catch and then fall through and catch do you know what that does to the slug? 80 forms it and that’s what causes the terrible accuracy. I’ll be doing a video on what we were told four years ago about the accuracy. And Emma, what we are told now and what we are showed in the terrible grouping that FX product get. I will be using footage from the Three Stooges and people can decide what they think about the groups in about what we were told. Now things are already going bad. The PRS guys they’re probably going to start a class action lawsuit. I’ve been talking to a lot of them. They want their money back and fx will do nothing. They have guns that are shooting over a 2 inch group at 100 yards and they want their money back. they have never since they stopped using really good barrels from Walther. Had a gun that was quality. And now it’s turning around on them and they don’t know what to do. What are they gonna do say their liners are terrible and we’re going back and we’re going to get the CZ barrels. in fact, that’s probably what they should do but they won’t. Because the barrels they may cost them five dollars each.

@@sniperdacapital7522 very easy cost $99. The cost to make it is three dollars. And the functionality the worst.

Get a epic two. They shoot a 3 inch group at 500 yards. They are incredible. They’re well-built. They don’t leak all the time. Just a very well-made machine. And it’s impressive that they could do that at 500 yards with slugs. Their hundred yard group is a half inch with slugs, so they’re very well designed in the barrel is from cz . Right now, CZ is the barrel manufacture that is very sought after.

@@zermomia get an air, hunter Gerards site and masters of airgun precision is the video you wanna watch. He shows the true group those gun shoot at 100 yards it’s a 3 inch group. Now why would f(x) do that now after lying about the groups that I called out three or four years ago. Because they’re trying to avert a class action lawsuit at this point. They figured a new segment of people to go after was the 22L our guys. But what they never thought of is those guys are used to shoot in half inch groups with their 22 lr. So they get the DRS pros and the shoot in a 3 inch group they all want their money back and I fax will not do it. Watch the video and see the group. They have lied for eight years about their accuracy. And it’s a shame that so many people got robbed.

@@amazingairguns6350 thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!.....I will take your advice and believe me it came at the right time.

@@JohnVentarino-ey5ln yes I started up again. I’m gonna be shooting a video this week. It’s on the Houben K-1 1150 FPS 22 caliber 40 green slugs half inch group. That’s gonna be the Huben master class. I’m gonna tear the gun down explain what needs to be done is very simple to get that speed. Then I plan on getting an Artemis M 22 or an M 30. Will shoot it on the video first with pellets and slugs at 100 yards. Then tear the gun down all on video do everything it needs. And then go shoot it again at 100 yards with slugs and pellets. I’ve got some updates on the barrel polishing also. A half inch group at 100 yards is consistently done with my method of polishing the barrels and taking out the imperfections. So yeah I’m gonna do a great video we’re gonna do a bunch of them.

@amazingairguns6350 that's great I'm subscribing right now buddy.

@@JohnVentarino-ey5ln really good Content coming

@@707Gaming-m5z I had no idea they came in 177.

@@bigeclipse718 what are you talking about? They have lost the last two years to the karma, red panda air rifle that is in their coveted 100 yards bench rest competition. They have lost the last two years because the guns are not quality and they will never win again, unless they get better barrels.

@@bigeclipse718 they are trying to keep that as quiet as they can, but karma started doing advertising on TH-cam now. Now it’s all coming out affects they will not talk about it. Anybody who shoots for them is not allowed to say a word.

@@bigeclipse718 so if you wanna competition proven air rifle, I guess you’re gonna have to get the caramel red panda but the great thing about that is when you buy the gun you get everything you possibly need

You are so funny. FX still has more wins in the past two years than any other brand, and the reason is the rifle. Just because a new company gets a win here or there doesnt mean their rifle is proven. Keep dreaming hahahaha😅​@amazingairguns6350. The caramel red panda will also never sell well because is a bulky nightmare. It does only one thing and that is benchrest. Until they get a compact bullpup version and awesome aftermarket support, it will forever be a bench only gun which 90% of users out there don't want. This is why the impact does so well because it caters to both bench competition and home enthusiasts.

@@bigeclipse718 no they don’t that’s not true if you’re talking about competitions against other FX air rifles maybe they’ll never win another competition it’s done unless they get new barrels. They should just get CZ barrels and be done with it.

@@Leadslinger619 lead slinger you are just a nothing from years ago. You message on every FX video and tell them how great they are. Don’t talk at if your gun shoots that Gray put the video up there on TH-cam because Matt dubber and air Hunter Girard both have videos showing the poor groups because people are starting to form a class action lawsuit. So they think they’re gonna arrest that by showing people the group and explaining how those two groups if you watch Aaron Hunter Girard he’s got two videos. Now he’s got the DRS in the DRS pro and both of those guns do the same thing to groups at 100 yards so listen shut your mouth and if you got something to show show it, I’ve shown it on my videos my gun shoot half inch groups. Anything I own does that because I know what I’m doing you’re not a gunsmith are you. Because if you were, you wouldn’t be making these comments. Those guns shoot terrible groups and it’s up for everybody to see with 200,000 views air, Hunter, Gerard watch Daria ass pro precision video. So you’re arguing with me when it’s right up there and you can see it you’re that stupid. You know what I’ll do for you. I’m gonna make a video showing those shitty groups so you can see it then.

@@Leadslinger619 to get up there on the air Hunter Girard DRS pro precision shooting or just a DRS precision shooting. Do you know what precision shooting even is it’s a half inch group at 100 yards. Oh, and by the way my guns I’ll do that because I know what I’m doing. I know barrels very well on the other hand. What do you have? What do you show people what videos have you made for the airgun community. Have you done a video showing how to polish and lap the barrels while I have and I’ll tell you what I got tons of people telling me they did it in a work right so I got to say. At this point you got nothing you’re just rambling on when you can just watch those videos and see how crappy those guns really shoot. You got about a 1 inch group at 100 yards with pallets with those guns which is terrible. Why do you think they can’t win their own competition for two years now and they never will again because there’s gonna be more karma, red pandas out there they are done winning that competition. And next year Matt Dahmer or anybody shooting a Flags airguns with slugs I won’t be winning anything either because there’s gonna be tons of karma red pandas with slug barrels out there. Now, just like I said three years ago there’s going to be a Chinese company that comes up and snatches it all away. Let’s not forget that been tack MCAR. 7000 psi feel pressured 4500 psi regulator pressure 31010th green slug 1185 FPS. Sub ammo way there shooting a 6 inch group at 1000 yards. I’ll tell you this I would like to see a Fax in that competition her Abby some funny shit. I would be surprised if the slug couldn’t even get there in an FX product. They are 35 caliber, slugs, shoot 900 FPS little over maybe. And that’s with those light junk who fx slugs. Do you think they’ll even make it out to 1000 yards with an FX product. I will tell you this the FX air gun 35 Cal has 200 FPE the Ben tack MCAR has 900 foot pounds of energy. But the jokes kind of on a fox at this point because the guns are destroying them they can’t make sales so hopefully I’m crossing my fingers that they’re gone off TH-cam forever and then everybody can see products from manufacturers in a normal way not with a Fax paying everybody to make their junk look like it’s great because it is it and you what are you got vested in this. And I’ll tell you why I am at the way I am because I bought that junk Matt dubber said his shot a quarter inch croup at 100 yards I got those junk guns and I even bought some barrels right all at one time I put the barrels and other guns it was terrible slugs were inch and a half 2 inch group. It was unbelievable and then, I started shooting guns when I got them when I got delivered. This is what I’m gonna say about fx they felt very weak cocking arms were just flimsy, move them up and down. They just had tons of play. I had pins falling out of the cocking arm on one gun. And when I was shooting slugs, they just couldn’t get over 950 easily. An inch or try to put pressure higher pressure to those guns. Yeah I can put I have your hammer spring but you’re going to gain 20 FPS it’s not gonna do shit. You can’t put any more pressure to them because how weak they are. They are just flimsy very thin tubes reservoirs and then you get to the seals right and you get to that three piece valve that cracks and a half if you put any pressure to it so they’re not even in the running and they won’t be any more because pressures are going up because they have to. I have guns here shoot 1100 FPS constantly and consistently and I’m shooting a half inch group at 100 yards. My K-1 there is no gun that’s going to touch that. Not fact I say that with no maliciousness or I don’t feel that I’m better than everybody else, but this is facts. I made videos that anybody can do and I gave them to people. So I must ask what has Matt Dobre done for the community, except for advertise falsely that junk they make. And if you don’t believe me that is junk look at their sales numbers they’re really really in bad shape because their guns have been flawless. The maverick panthera dynamic king nobody’s buying them very low sales numbers are in a lot of trouble. But they earned that trouble with the products they made in the shitty groups at their guns hat. How dare they push that DRS pro to people who shoot 22 LR competition they got a hold of those guns and couldn’t believe the groups they were terrible. They all wanted their money back. What does the fox two thing and I give them nothing back. And the funny thing is they were posting an ergo nation and their post get removed right away because the air donation gets paid by FX to keep anything bad from being sad. Why do you think you never see anything bad about an FX products do you think it’s because people don’t have complaints?

@@amazingairguns6350 wtf I barely made an account about a year ago, you constantly comment on all fx owners page making up fake stories trying to make FX look bad, we all know your just a broke boy. 😂 I don't even own an FX but when you see someone comment with so much hateful passion it's pretty wild dude. Get off FX nuts if you don't like them.

@@amazingairguns6350 holy shit now that's sad, having pre written comments is wild😂 very simple man go do some solid research. I've seen many videos with non bias air gunners putting them to the test. Why do you have to get so upset and go off like that. There's plenty of proof.

@@amazingairguns6350 and this is my first time encountering you, I barely made an account last year. So you must be making more stories up, your very good at that.

@@pauloram2563 cheap talk check your liner. Unless they have a new process which they don’t those liners are still coming out terribly made. You’re paying $2200 for a impact the barrel cost them three dollars to make and it’s junk. That’s it. You have the view you have because you’ve never shot competition. I shut competition with firearms so I fully understand why you need a precision shooting gun which means under a half inch in 100 yards and you don’t get it with F act if you watch air, Hunter, Gerard his DR S pro precision video you’ll see exactly what they’re gonna do is in 100 yards s. It shoots a 3 inch crop so you better go check that out before you say anything now these are the supposed pros that get paid by FX to make their videos and remember that is an infomercial and it shows how terrible that gun shoots and why does it shoot that terrible with slugs because it has a choke. Anyone who makes a comment up here back to me you’re just a stupid FX lover and your problem with that is you’re too dumb to do your homework and see the guns that really shoot quality groups.

@@DIY-vv4fu I can’t remember what the twist weight wise. I took, and I leaned the liners on the curb and jumped on him in Bantam Tim, one of my videos. They are truly shitty made barrels.

@@maverick4me my channel is amazing airguns The reason I call them out is because I bought eight of their guns because of Matt dubber, saying how accurate they were, and showing the target of a one whole group. Which was not true I got the guns they were terrible. They shot so terrible that I had no choice, but to make my first video the truth about fx liners

@@maverick4me awesome you already saw my video

@@maverick4me what kind of guns do you have?

@@jeremywilliams7459 well, if you take conventional rifled barrel stock, guns polish the barrel lap the barrel. You’ll get under a half inch every time if it’s done properly so I got to tell you once again those barrels are junk they don’t work they have a chalk do you understand that. Do you understand that the barrels are not true because they press the rifling in from the outside and the stock tubes they start with are not the same diameter all the way through. And as far as you’re telling me anything about barrels and add-ons, the problem is in the liner, add whatever the hell you want to that gun. Watch my video on the FX liner that I got to shoot better. Your stuff is junk you only gone and you’re not pissed off. Do you have a shitty shooting gun to your part of this year FX boy

@@michaell397 I couldn’t have said it better myself. The issue with him is he’s doing infomercials. He started out as a hunting TH-camr, and then he slid his advertising right into it. he gets paid to lie about FX products. FX pays air gun nation to keep anything negative off the forum. What they’ll do is they’ll say the topic is too controversial it’s causing too much trouble and then they take it down. So you will never see anything negative about FX airguns anywhere. another thing is let’s take shooter 1721. I watched him shoot an F ask wildcat a Hatsan flash pop I can’t remember what the third gun lead , but that flash pop out shot. The FX wildcat and the group was so tired. It was unbelievable. So what did Rick do? He kept shooting it till it was off the regulator, and he even said because you could see the speed dropping 100 FPS oh it’s going off the regulator so of course at that point started to throw them a little bit lower so the group ended up being like an inch and a half. But that’s subliminal. He did that purposely. And then at the end of that video, it turned into an FX sells expo. Oh, he had nothing but bad stuff to say about the other two guns but the FX gun that was perfect in every way shape or form. And why is it that it was perfect because Rick got paid.

Matthew dubber is not another airgunner . He makes infomercials, and he lies about the shitty guns that he sells. Now is that straightforward enough for you? And if you didn’t have a below average IQ, you would realize after watching his videos how much is contradicts himself and lies to sell that shit but you you’re too fucking stupid aren’t you?

Back in the early 1900s, one pellet guns were really starting to be used a lot. The barrel technology was terrible putting rifling in the barrels was very inconsistent so they realized when they choked the barrel they got better accuracy with pellets. But with technology now you don’t even need a choke to shoot pellets because of the extreme accuracy and precision of putting the rifling into the barrels now. There is a bunch of manufacturers that don’t even choke their pellet barrels and they get superior accuracy . Get on TH-cam click on Andy’s air gun reviews Huben k1. They can’t shut a half inch group at 100 yards and I think it was like 20 rounds. No Flyers no choke on the barrel watch the video it’s incredible.

Really what has Matthew innovated come on those shitty slugs.

The only thing Matthew is ever brought to era gunning is miss information, lying about FX liners accuracy. And the funny thing is now if you watch his one year with Panthera now he tells the truth his 35 yard group of an inch is what to expect and that’s what he says he would rather have that crap group than a precision group is his exact words. The precision group is a quarter inch but for some reason Matthew would rather have a terrible shooting gun as compared to a precision gun so is that the innovating you’re talking about

Thousands of people having great success using FX guns using pellets and slugs including Fredrick (did you see his showing at rmac last year) and you can't wrap your head around it. I have a dreamline shooting <1/2 at 50 and with low wind 1 inch at 100, I can tune the gun out of this accuracy easily, and bring it back. I've never shot a gun so easy to tune. Are these guns flawless, no, are they constantly innovating, faster than any company I've seen, and that comes at a cost of live beta testing, and I'm okay with that. FX has chosen a few shooters that shoot thousands of rounds to elicit feedback and they share it all with everyone. Because you've had some bad experiences you're bitter, and it discredits you, it makes you look foolish, and that's a shame because otherwise it would seem you're an experienced shooter and tinkerer. I've been at this a long time, I have had a great experience with the dreamline, a reasonably priced gun using much of the FX tech, this gun shoots several pellets well, I have a slug liner but haven't installed and tuned, it is as simple as that.

@@UncleChuckApproved here is a fact most people buy those guns they don’t have anything else, so what do they have to judge the performance by. Pellets they’re OK with pellets, but when it comes to slugs, they suck and the fact is the liners are not properly made. With all the inconsistencies in the tubes that they turn into liners, you can’t get accuracy with slugs like you can with a conventional superior rifle barrel. When they make the tubes there’s inconsistencies and deviations up to 4000 of an inch so what happens is when they press on the rifling from the outside the barrel isn’t true on the inside because you’ve you’ve got high spots and low spots, so now once they press the rifling in and you shoot your slug through there, it gets sized by these tighter spots so when it hits the tighter spots and goes past that you’ll have spots where the slow go fall 6 inches through the barrel, there’s nothing holding it back that’s why Fxhast to have chokes. Any gun that has a CZ barrel right off the bat is going to shoot half the group size of any FX product. If you look on amazing, airguns site on TH-cam. You will see a video on Ernest Rowe. Ernest, while talking to some of us explained how he actually accurize is a barrel. He goes in back and he picks through the thousands of liners they have until they find a good one. Now this is of my words if you look up there, you look for that video you’re going to see Ernest row on Eragon nations forum saying just that. Now on my site, I did lap and polish one barrel of our fax and I cut some of the choke off and I managed to get. I think it was a little over a half inch croup out of a 30 Cal with slugs, but I’m not interested in having to do that much work. It was seven hours of work on that barrel and you still got your vibration because her to thunder just played with problems and then you look at the Panthera watch mats video on one year with a Panthera, those guns are built so terrible that you have to leave the bolts loose that hold the barrel in the gun because if you don’t you get point of impact changes when the gun is out in the sun because it the whole action twists . So how well are those guns made. I have a 1/50 guns. My dad was a gunsmith there isn’t anything anyone is going to tell me about barrels. The fact is those guns are junk they’re weak they can’t even shoot barely over 1020 FPS myHuben K-1 shoot a 40 grain 22 caliber slug at 1150 FPS and a shoot and 3/8 inch group at 100 yards at that speed. Now let’s get onto aea if you get up on TH-cam there’s a video of their 58 caliber challenger with Sabo 30 Cal rounds 170 grains going 2140 FPS. And shooting a nice tight group. Can you put a sable in one of an FX product you’re not getting much over what it normally does they just don’t have, the pressures needed and they never will because of the week design. FX insist on using that shitty three-piece valve because it’s cheap and easy to assemble. Everything they do is made for them is of putting the gun together and ease of making it cheap the cheapest, they can make it in manufacturing that’s where the liners come in. Liners cost them roughly 3 dollars each compared to a quality barrel will you pull the tooling through and actually have a true barrel all the way down through diameter true rifling. You’re not gonna explain anything to me about those junk products they are the most poorly designed air guns on the market and that is a fact you say what you want you believe what you want because you love them may I go buy one thing performance, and those guns do not have it if they even if they were $500 a gun, they still don’t have the performers their shit and that’s what they should be pricewise. You look at the DRS right you got the bass gun that’s 999 then you have the pro S3 grand it’s the same shitty action. Everything is the same except they put a gauge on the magazine Plenum. It’s a joke. The whole thing is a joke and everybody knows it now and they’ll be some newer guys getting into this they don’t know any better. They’ve never shot an air, gun and water they see FX air guns everywhere because FX pays everybody who wants to do the shoot to make it look like there’s a top gun that everybody wants but that’s not true their guns or shit. Do you want to shoot long distance go get yourself an Air Force tax in LSS. AEA is the true innovator they’re the ones who make the karma red panda that destroyed 98 FX air guns against two Chinese, AEA, built guns and the AEA guns took first and second in the 100 yards benchrest and then they went on to win two other major large competitions last year so three major competitions taken. Now here’s another thing about a EA. The innovators want to take a look at all the new models of guns they came out with their guns coming soon will fill to 7000 psi they’ll be regulated to 4500 psi that means firearm speeds and extreme accuracy out of their stuff. I Fax is not an innovator they’re on their way out. Why do you think it affects USA is gone. And this is not the first time they’ve had trouble they got kicked right out of airguns of Arizona. When the impact came out because of the poor accuracy, they said years ago when they use Walther barrels their guns were decent now they suck accuracy is terrible and people are complaining when they buy the guns and how do you back that up when someone buys a product and FX will not take anything back. And a majority of people that bought those guns one of them take them back immediately.

That’s right it’s Pressed in from the outside. But here’s the issue. The liners are not the same thickness all the way through they have machining marks they have it looks like a screw in through there from the machining process in some of the liners. The issue is the deviation in the thickness that I measured up to 4000 of an inch. Now when you press the rifling in from the outside it’s not true because you’ve got a 4000 of an inch deviation, which means when the slug is going through the barrel being sized smaller by the high spots in the barrel, so what you have is a slug that starts slapping around that’s why Matt dubber said he used to Vaseline and slugs, because it helped with them flopping around. That is also why they have to have a choke on a slug barrel. No other manufacturer puts chokes on slug barrels because it causes poor accuracy. Now you’ve got that liner with a choke. What do you think that is? You’ve got a solid slug again being size down when it hits the end of the barrel what does that to pushes them all over the place have a tight group that’s why they shoot an inch and a half to 2 inch group at 100 yards. And the funny thing is Matt dubber says that that is what he’d rather have is an inch and a half to 2 inch group at 100 yards instead of a quarter inch crop and where did he say it. In his one year with his Panthera video I suggest you watch that idiot make an ass out of himself. The guns change his point of impact, and that says loosen the screws that are supposed to be tight to hold the barrel in place because in the heat out in the sun, the chassis flexes and throws your slugs off. That’s a piece of shit and everything affects makes is a piece of shit and if you don’t think so, you’ve never shot against anybody with a really good quality barrel like a gauntlet or any Artemis air gun made by snow peak or an Oregon or a Beeman cube cheap for 180 bucks that will out shoot any FX. FX air guns are for people who don’t know anything about her guns. They watch a video when they say I gotta have the best and then they get it and they think they got the best until they shoot against a good gun.

That is true because if you bought it from someone else like an air gun store, they got it at dealer cost and they also got no warranty because they got it 30% cheaper. That’s why I always buy right from Walther.

It’s not about him it’s about the gun. It has a chocked barrel. Do you understand that you just don’t get it do you?

@@amazingairguns6350 you’re videos are awesome and one of a kind. Very educational and motivating to give one the confidence in enjoying more out of their hobby by becoming more involved. So maybe I don’t get exactly your point. In one or two sentences can you please explain what it is? So a choked barrel in most or some cases causes more inaccuracies?

What kind of gun do you have?

@@amazingairguns6350 fx dynamic 600mm 22

I’m sorry to hear that. I went through the same thing. It is very frustrating because I watched Matt Dobbers videos where he showed a precision group. It was like five shots and may be a 3/8 inch hole. I get i’m sorry to hear that. I went through the same thing. It is very frustrating because I watched Matt Dobbers videos where he showed a precision group. It was like five shots and may be a 3/8 inch hole. I get the slug liners and it’s entered a half 200 100 yards on my channel. I did get one liner to shoot savanna my way but it was a 30 Cal which is inherently more accurate and it took me eight hours to get that out of that barrel, and I will never do another one. it’s sad at FX has conned people out of their money and given them and in theory or shooting product.

Well, I will tell you this low pressure 1700 psi 1800 psi. Those are all way too low for shooting slugs. You have some better duplicate. The immediate speed that comes from a 22 hour are being fired. The only way you can do that is with 3600 psi or more. My huben k1 22 Cal. Shoots 40 grain slugs, 1150 FPS under half inch group I retired at 100 yards the gun is capable of over 1200 FPS, but the groups open a little. My twist rate is more suited for 1150 with a slug I’m using. I’m sure that there is a slug design out there. With a different balance point which nobody talks about because you’re too stupid.

How do you feel about that? Where do you think your balance point is better on a slug shooting out of your gun? Do you even know how to determine the balance point. I’m gonna go step further you don’t even know how to check your barrel to see what size luggage you need.

Really? What’s the farthest shot now that they do all the time for miles how are they hitting a 2 foot gong at 4 miles OK enough for you guys in your bullshit enough. Here’s a fact lower pressure shooting guns like 1700 psi like FX products Will experience in accuracy with slugs from the low pressure because it takes more volume to push the slug out the 800 mm barrel by the time the slug gets out the air is moving faster and a big volume of it. Now if you’re shooting, let’s say 3600 psi, you have a sharp crack, short duration, very high pressure air. You have less than 2/3 of the air coming out. The end of the barrel has expanded waste. That’s right, the very low pressure that FX fire is there are slugs out of their guns at because their guns cannot operate with higher pressures because of the weakness built into them. They are actually causing their own and accuracy, as well as their liners with a choke on it to shoot slugs the liners have to go also so here’s the mess and for the day you dumb shit high pressure equals extreme tight groups at long distances lower pressure means a 2 inch group at 100 yards so have fun with that. You don’t know shit you read a little and then you take what you read and you don’t even understand it and you make comments.

You really are a dumb shit you have no clue what you’re talking about. You’re talking about aircraft, the last time I looked a slug doesn’t have wings. It doesn’t have a wing with a high pressure and low pressure zone does it. This is what I’m talking about with TH-cam and you assholes who made comments for FX. You are totally muddying the waters with bullshit. That makes no difference and I’m gonna tell you what it is with our guns. This is what matters. Speed and spin. That’s right the speed of your slug Hass to be matched with a spin of your rifle, so that’s going to determine your speed and the balance point of your slug saw my gun shooting well over the speed of sound. And I get a three eights inch group at 100 yards you idiot why do you think that is because of his instability and he’s going through this it’s a little sonic boom MX you guys are so lost in this whole hobby is so fucked because of assholes like you taking a paycheck to fucking spread bullshit for a company. You assholes have to go away because you don’t know anything you read something and you spit it back out and you don’t even know what the fuck it means.

Here’s a fact jaygeeantonio. The reason that that BS has been spread around about subsonic and getting into going past the speed of sound that came from a Fx . They are the ones who spread that around at Utah’s competition. In the reason they spread that is because they cannot get to that speed with their weak platforms. They cannot do it consistently because their shit breaks. I have a Huben K1, 1150 FPS 3 eights inch group at 100 yards how do you think that happens. Quality barrel high-pressure. This is a BS hobby to me and I know more than all of you guys put together. And you are the assholes out. They’re spreading this gym for this information to new guys so they are just dumbfounded and don’t know what to do but I’ll go by that affects product because it’s up there on every other video because I Fx spans five Mile year and shooters that shoot their shit products on TH-cam that’s right as long as you do exactly what they say you don’t put groups on paper you’re gonna be OK and you’re gonna get your pay first tier 90002nd tier 15,003rd tier 20,000 per video

@@amazingairguns6350 actually my knowledge on barrel and speeds came from power burners so off the first sentence your not proving anything im jus saying i shot long range for 13 of the 18 years i have been alive and everything your saying sounds like bs did you know pellets are supposed to stay in between 850 and 950 cuz they use drag to stabilize and not gyro you really out here looking like a fool not even 50 cal plus in airguns can compete with even .300 200 grain round i been shooting longer than most adults and can even tell you sanding the barrel is bs you just need to break it in there are alot of point in the rifle that constitutes in air stability you never even mentioned twist rate and weight of pellet together those are probably the 2 biggest issues not rifling its the same reason airguns dont have massive lands a groves in the rifling we dont have enough pressure for it to bleed off and effectively push the projectile

@@amazingairguns6350 you sound like old man wanting attention what was your daddy working to much like come on bro you actually show you have no idea on the basic concept of a gun in general its not pressure pushes projectile this isn't 1952 there is rifling on top of pressure barrel length twist rate weight of projectile i guarantee if you took a bit to learn a ballistic calculator it'll give you better knowledge on zeroing your scope im telling you bro im a quarter your age and can shoot triple your distance on my custom 24 inch AR-15 i was practicing at 500m with 30+ feet of bullet drop literally everything you say is bs some stuff dont actually relate to high psi barrel conditions relating to powder burners

Are you shooting pellets are you shooting slugs. If you’re shooting slugs it’s not spot on it’s an inch and a half to 2 inch pipe at 100 yards so you can take your BS and shove it up your ass.

Sounds like someone spent a lot of money on FX and that’s all they own. You don’t own another quality gun. I mean a real quality gone not an FX week. Shitty junk product poorly designed poorly made start to finish junk.

@@amazingairguns6350 wish I could get to you