That gun should go super sonic with heavy slugs I was guns are no joke those guards have the Huben valve system Elsia stole it.You should be able to shoot a 44 green slug at least 1070 ft./s
And if they do they stay shortly and go into transonic thats what causes instability do research on sub tran and super sonic and research on barrels regulator power plenum etc come together
I will definitely shoot it for you tomorrow Frank we just had a storm here the last week and a half it’s been unbelievable but it’s finally starting to calm down even if it’s a little windy I’ll shoot. I’ll also shoot that Walther maxima Thor. I am so happy with this thing now it’s 25 Cal and it was never really accurate with pallets and even worse with slugs and I draw the choke out this thing is just unbelievable now. I also did the barrel work at needed polished it lapped it it shoots a 38 crane at about 810 FPS but it accuracy is an incredible now it shoots under a half inch at 100 yards. So I’m really happy with that thing. It went from a gun that I would not even think of picking up to a gun I’ll pick up almost every time now. It’s quiet it’s a tech driver and you really don’t need to go super fast for hunting. I do like the slugs are going over 1000 FPS but they don’t have to in order to serve their purpose and function. I’m also waiting on Altaros slugs. Look them up and see how they’re made the machine them. I need to get more for the Huben . I had to keep messing with the slug speed to see where I shot the best group and that was at 1040 FPS out of 25 Cal. It was shooting .9 of an inch at 200 yards with those slugs
Thats transonic 🤦🏿 you dont even know the speeds sound barrier isn't a barrier it was just impossible for planes to reach that what your hearing is a transonic crack not a super sonic and also the pressure airguns produce are way lower than a gun so until a design is made we stay below the transonic zone as entering that speed than leaving creates dynamic instability and issues with it slowing down rapidly it causes spiraling just like a kvochur bell maneuver in a jet same concept as its moving fast and pulling up or down while spinning length of pellet also has a play in that as energy is low you really need to do you research airguns just barely caught up to .22 and are getting better the only difference now is barrel pressure in other words what pushes the projectile the barrels designed by fx are specifically for slower fps projectiles and if your hearing a crack even with a shroud or moderator you are over clocking dipping in and out of the transonic zone its okay to pass it but you need to reach your target before reaching transonic zone guns from ww2 i think can even have this issue when shooting to far thats when the bullet hits transonic and rapidly destabilizes resulting in spiraling or tumbling and some case yaw or pitch til flying sideways btw im 18 and know this because my dad introduced me to long range powder burning shooting at a young age im at a point where all i need to learn is Coriolis effect correction meaning in the northern hemisphere aim left a bit in the southern aim right on top of wind and elevation angle feet above sea level humidity and with how high you are from sea level even air density plays a role but ion know bro keep on it also do your research on the history of the sound barrier and why that name was made
Really? What’s the farthest shot now that they do all the time for miles how are they hitting a 2 foot gong at 4 miles OK enough for you guys in your bullshit enough. Here’s a fact lower pressure shooting guns like 1700 psi like FX products Will experience in accuracy with slugs from the low pressure because it takes more volume to push the slug out the 800 mm barrel by the time the slug gets out the air is moving faster and a big volume of it. Now if you’re shooting, let’s say 3600 psi, you have a sharp crack, short duration, very high pressure air. You have less than 2/3 of the air coming out. The end of the barrel has expanded waste. That’s right, the very low pressure that FX fire is there are slugs out of their guns at because their guns cannot operate with higher pressures because of the weakness built into them. They are actually causing their own and accuracy, as well as their liners with a choke on it to shoot slugs the liners have to go also so here’s the mess and for the day you dumb shit high pressure equals extreme tight groups at long distances lower pressure means a 2 inch group at 100 yards so have fun with that. You don’t know shit you read a little and then you take what you read and you don’t even understand it and you make comments.
You really are a dumb shit you have no clue what you’re talking about. You’re talking about aircraft, the last time I looked a slug doesn’t have wings. It doesn’t have a wing with a high pressure and low pressure zone does it. This is what I’m talking about with TH-cam and you assholes who made comments for FX. You are totally muddying the waters with bullshit. That makes no difference and I’m gonna tell you what it is with our guns. This is what matters. Speed and spin. That’s right the speed of your slug Hass to be matched with a spin of your rifle, so that’s going to determine your speed and the balance point of your slug saw my gun shooting well over the speed of sound. And I get a three eights inch group at 100 yards you idiot why do you think that is because of his instability and he’s going through this it’s a little sonic boom MX you guys are so lost in this whole hobby is so fucked because of assholes like you taking a paycheck to fucking spread bullshit for a company. You assholes have to go away because you don’t know anything you read something and you spit it back out and you don’t even know what the fuck it means.
Here’s a fact jaygeeantonio. The reason that that BS has been spread around about subsonic and getting into going past the speed of sound that came from a Fx . They are the ones who spread that around at Utah’s competition. In the reason they spread that is because they cannot get to that speed with their weak platforms. They cannot do it consistently because their shit breaks. I have a Huben K1, 1150 FPS 3 eights inch group at 100 yards how do you think that happens. Quality barrel high-pressure. This is a BS hobby to me and I know more than all of you guys put together. And you are the assholes out. They’re spreading this gym for this information to new guys so they are just dumbfounded and don’t know what to do but I’ll go by that affects product because it’s up there on every other video because I Fx spans five Mile year and shooters that shoot their shit products on TH-cam that’s right as long as you do exactly what they say you don’t put groups on paper you’re gonna be OK and you’re gonna get your pay first tier 90002nd tier 15,003rd tier 20,000 per video
@@amazingairguns6350 actually my knowledge on barrel and speeds came from power burners so off the first sentence your not proving anything im jus saying i shot long range for 13 of the 18 years i have been alive and everything your saying sounds like bs did you know pellets are supposed to stay in between 850 and 950 cuz they use drag to stabilize and not gyro you really out here looking like a fool not even 50 cal plus in airguns can compete with even .300 200 grain round i been shooting longer than most adults and can even tell you sanding the barrel is bs you just need to break it in there are alot of point in the rifle that constitutes in air stability you never even mentioned twist rate and weight of pellet together those are probably the 2 biggest issues not rifling its the same reason airguns dont have massive lands a groves in the rifling we dont have enough pressure for it to bleed off and effectively push the projectile
@@amazingairguns6350 you sound like old man wanting attention what was your daddy working to much like come on bro you actually show you have no idea on the basic concept of a gun in general its not pressure pushes projectile this isn't 1952 there is rifling on top of pressure barrel length twist rate weight of projectile i guarantee if you took a bit to learn a ballistic calculator it'll give you better knowledge on zeroing your scope im telling you bro im a quarter your age and can shoot triple your distance on my custom 24 inch AR-15 i was practicing at 500m with 30+ feet of bullet drop literally everything you say is bs some stuff dont actually relate to high psi barrel conditions relating to powder burners
I agree they’re useless. Most of my guns I keep under the speed of sound because of the neighbors. The snow absorbs a lot of the crack sound in the summer is terrible. But yeah one of the good things about shooting our guns as you can go totally silent. Except when they have a slug hits the animal and it sounds like another large crack.
@@ezrabrook3993 Depends on your goal. Hearing safe for a few shots, or suppression of location. Does not have to be reduced load. Just choose a caliber that is sub-sonic, such as .45 ACP, or 147 grain 9 mmP. If you want movie quiet, keep watching movies.
Why are you so obsessed with Dubber? 😂 I’m sure he could care less about your opinions. Do your own thing and don’t worry about anybody else. You are making yourself out to be a TH-cam troll. Where’s your scale to prove the 31 grain Nielsen? And no, I am not an FX fan boy. I don’t own an FX, so you can put that card back in your pile.
People need to know how much a fax barrels don’t perform how are they ever going to know when FX piece everybody and give them free guns to shoot them to make them look like they are the top
Similar crack of 22 short.
I shoot 223 a lot and it's 10X.
My LCS SK19 22 goes supersonic with lighter pellets and on full auto it's impressive
That gun should go super sonic with heavy slugs I was guns are no joke those guards have the Huben valve system Elsia stole it.You should be able to shoot a 44 green slug at least 1070 ft./s
I don’t know if you could hear Like I could that thing just kept echoing down the valley
I’m gonna get a target out there later and shoot the gun let’s see what it does for accuracy at that crazy speed at 100 yards
How do we know you inserted NSA slug in your SPA? It could be a very lightweight pellet just to create that supersonic crack.
Transonic they cant even go fast enough to reach super
And if they do they stay shortly and go into transonic thats what causes instability do research on sub tran and super sonic and research on barrels regulator power plenum etc come together
Almost as loud as a .223 lmao. Your not hitting anything shaking like you do let alone shooting supersonic with an airgun.
Easy to shoot subsonic with an airgun. But not louder than .22 rimfire.
Not louder then 22lr but pretty damn close.
Did I miss the 5-shot group? Can you please run the chrony while you gather the group?
I will definitely shoot it for you tomorrow Frank we just had a storm here the last week and a half it’s been unbelievable but it’s finally starting to calm down even if it’s a little windy I’ll shoot. I’ll also shoot that Walther maxima Thor. I am so happy with this thing now it’s 25 Cal and it was never really accurate with pallets and even worse with slugs and I draw the choke out this thing is just unbelievable now. I also did the barrel work at needed polished it lapped it it shoots a 38 crane at about 810 FPS but it accuracy is an incredible now it shoots under a half inch at 100 yards. So I’m really happy with that thing. It went from a gun that I would not even think of picking up to a gun I’ll pick up almost every time now. It’s quiet it’s a tech driver and you really don’t need to go super fast for hunting. I do like the slugs are going over 1000 FPS but they don’t have to in order to serve their purpose and function. I’m also waiting on Altaros slugs. Look them up and see how they’re made the machine them. I need to get more for the Huben . I had to keep messing with the slug speed to see where I shot the best group and that was at 1040 FPS out of 25 Cal. It was shooting .9 of an inch at 200 yards with those slugs
It’s up there Frank check it out sorry it took so long
Keep it up 👍
Over 1060-1200+ fps! Crack!!!
Ummm....no. 1125fps or more = Crack.
@@KevinWood44 Speed of sound is not a constant: It depends on the altitude, barometer, temperature and shape of the projectile.
Thats transonic 🤦🏿 you dont even know the speeds sound barrier isn't a barrier it was just impossible for planes to reach that what your hearing is a transonic crack not a super sonic and also the pressure airguns produce are way lower than a gun so until a design is made we stay below the transonic zone as entering that speed than leaving creates dynamic instability and issues with it slowing down rapidly it causes spiraling just like a kvochur bell maneuver in a jet same concept as its moving fast and pulling up or down while spinning length of pellet also has a play in that as energy is low you really need to do you research airguns just barely caught up to .22 and are getting better the only difference now is barrel pressure in other words what pushes the projectile the barrels designed by fx are specifically for slower fps projectiles and if your hearing a crack even with a shroud or moderator you are over clocking dipping in and out of the transonic zone its okay to pass it but you need to reach your target before reaching transonic zone guns from ww2 i think can even have this issue when shooting to far thats when the bullet hits transonic and rapidly destabilizes resulting in spiraling or tumbling and some case yaw or pitch til flying sideways btw im 18 and know this because my dad introduced me to long range powder burning shooting at a young age im at a point where all i need to learn is Coriolis effect correction meaning in the northern hemisphere aim left a bit in the southern aim right on top of wind and elevation angle feet above sea level humidity and with how high you are from sea level even air density plays a role but ion know bro keep on it also do your research on the history of the sound barrier and why that name was made
Really? What’s the farthest shot now that they do all the time for miles how are they hitting a 2 foot gong at 4 miles OK enough for you guys in your bullshit enough. Here’s a fact lower pressure shooting guns like 1700 psi like FX products Will experience in accuracy with slugs from the low pressure because it takes more volume to push the slug out the 800 mm barrel by the time the slug gets out the air is moving faster and a big volume of it. Now if you’re shooting, let’s say 3600 psi, you have a sharp crack, short duration, very high pressure air. You have less than 2/3 of the air coming out. The end of the barrel has expanded waste. That’s right, the very low pressure that FX fire is there are slugs out of their guns at because their guns cannot operate with higher pressures because of the weakness built into them. They are actually causing their own and accuracy, as well as their liners with a choke on it to shoot slugs the liners have to go also so here’s the mess and for the day you dumb shit high pressure equals extreme tight groups at long distances lower pressure means a 2 inch group at 100 yards so have fun with that. You don’t know shit you read a little and then you take what you read and you don’t even understand it and you make comments.
You really are a dumb shit you have no clue what you’re talking about. You’re talking about aircraft, the last time I looked a slug doesn’t have wings. It doesn’t have a wing with a high pressure and low pressure zone does it. This is what I’m talking about with TH-cam and you assholes who made comments for FX. You are totally muddying the waters with bullshit. That makes no difference and I’m gonna tell you what it is with our guns. This is what matters. Speed and spin. That’s right the speed of your slug Hass to be matched with a spin of your rifle, so that’s going to determine your speed and the balance point of your slug saw my gun shooting well over the speed of sound. And I get a three eights inch group at 100 yards you idiot why do you think that is because of his instability and he’s going through this it’s a little sonic boom MX you guys are so lost in this whole hobby is so fucked because of assholes like you taking a paycheck to fucking spread bullshit for a company. You assholes have to go away because you don’t know anything you read something and you spit it back out and you don’t even know what the fuck it means.
Here’s a fact jaygeeantonio. The reason that that BS has been spread around about subsonic and getting into going past the speed of sound that came from a Fx . They are the ones who spread that around at Utah’s competition. In the reason they spread that is because they cannot get to that speed with their weak platforms. They cannot do it consistently because their shit breaks. I have a Huben K1, 1150 FPS 3 eights inch group at 100 yards how do you think that happens. Quality barrel high-pressure. This is a BS hobby to me and I know more than all of you guys put together. And you are the assholes out. They’re spreading this gym for this information to new guys so they are just dumbfounded and don’t know what to do but I’ll go by that affects product because it’s up there on every other video because I Fx spans five Mile year and shooters that shoot their shit products on TH-cam that’s right as long as you do exactly what they say you don’t put groups on paper you’re gonna be OK and you’re gonna get your pay first tier 90002nd tier 15,003rd tier 20,000 per video
@@amazingairguns6350 actually my knowledge on barrel and speeds came from power burners so off the first sentence your not proving anything im jus saying i shot long range for 13 of the 18 years i have been alive and everything your saying sounds like bs did you know pellets are supposed to stay in between 850 and 950 cuz they use drag to stabilize and not gyro you really out here looking like a fool not even 50 cal plus in airguns can compete with even .300 200 grain round i been shooting longer than most adults and can even tell you sanding the barrel is bs you just need to break it in there are alot of point in the rifle that constitutes in air stability you never even mentioned twist rate and weight of pellet together those are probably the 2 biggest issues not rifling its the same reason airguns dont have massive lands a groves in the rifling we dont have enough pressure for it to bleed off and effectively push the projectile
@@amazingairguns6350 you sound like old man wanting attention what was your daddy working to much like come on bro you actually show you have no idea on the basic concept of a gun in general its not pressure pushes projectile this isn't 1952 there is rifling on top of pressure barrel length twist rate weight of projectile i guarantee if you took a bit to learn a ballistic calculator it'll give you better knowledge on zeroing your scope im telling you bro im a quarter your age and can shoot triple your distance on my custom 24 inch AR-15 i was practicing at 500m with 30+ feet of bullet drop literally everything you say is bs some stuff dont actually relate to high psi barrel conditions relating to powder burners
Silencer's don't really work much if the sound barrier is broken! Proven fact!!!
I agree they’re useless. Most of my guns I keep under the speed of sound because of the neighbors. The snow absorbs a lot of the crack sound in the summer is terrible. But yeah one of the good things about shooting our guns as you can go totally silent. Except when they have a slug hits the animal and it sounds like another large crack.
They still reduce muzzle blast. Obviously can't do anything about the supersonic crack coming from the projectile.
@@rickoshea8138 yeah and on powder burners they still suk!!! W/O reduced load ammo!
@@ezrabrook3993 Depends on your goal. Hearing safe for a few shots, or suppression of location.
Does not have to be reduced load. Just choose a caliber that is sub-sonic, such as .45 ACP, or 147 grain 9 mmP.
If you want movie quiet, keep watching movies.
@@rickoshea8138 back at ye of very little knowledge! Smh
Why are you so obsessed with Dubber? 😂 I’m sure he could care less about your opinions. Do your own thing and don’t worry about anybody else. You are making yourself out to be a TH-cam troll. Where’s your scale to prove the 31 grain Nielsen? And no, I am not an FX fan boy. I don’t own an FX, so you can put that card back in your pile.
People need to know how much a fax barrels don’t perform how are they ever going to know when FX piece everybody and give them free guns to shoot them to make them look like they are the top