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Looks like a good set up all the way around. I know someone with a metal cloak kit and it seems very high quality and performs well. I have the front drop brackets but at 2.5" I don't think I need them. I've considered taking them off to see the difference. I do hit them a lot but never had them hold me up. I have a 8 switch panel that I won on a giveaway from AZ Overland, but never installed. Mostly because of space like you said, even the gas engines its tight in there. I;ve also thought of putting it in the truck, all kinds of room in that engine bay. Nice Dedication there at the end.

Very nice build Sir, I like that rear bumper tire carrier. I do use metalcloak I like their stuff.

FYI, it's not what you'd call a good idea to block the air flow to the radiator in a diesel JL or JT. I've heard Jeep's warranty states in the fine print not to do that for the diesels, and Jeep can void the engine warranty if they so choose.

Still….my favorite color jeep! Nice work! Nice rig!

Sorry for your loss. No doubt you made him a proud father. You have a nicely equipped JLUR. There's nothing better than being able to do your own work on vehicles, specially these days. You did your homework on the products you chose for the build. I see the drive shafts are still stock. Will you be upgrading them as well? The torq of the diesel engine and bigger tires could lead to failure under certain conditions.

Great Video. For a fun and quick run that won't take 'all day' this is the best. I do it a couple of times each wheeling season just to 'get out'.

Thanks for this. I was looking at running that trail in the near future as my adult son lives in Arizona City.

When climbing, long, steep hills, like that, you should use for low, you’ll save your transmission

Good reference video. Another tip for folks: If you go as a group try to keep it to 6 rigs or less. You can see from the video that passing opportunities can be limited and if you have a larger group it complicates matters.

Do you happen to know, is this trail called Four Peaks on OnX Offroad? I can't find anything called Apache Trail.

Great video!

Funny we can go landscaped and maintained city parks for free but have pay to go for a walk in the forest. Odd...

That's why they call it a Permit, If you pay the Fee fees,then you'll be Permitted to use the Area, it's just another Control factor and hidden taxes, once it takes place it never goes away, They just increase the fees anytime they want to... usually every few years....

This is all due to the damage and garbage from the razor community!

People won't pack out what they pack in. 😡

What about Golden Age lifetime passes?

You should move to CA if you enjoy paying fees, these illegals will NEVER be stopped look at CA😂 It's funny to see all these conservatives bow to their lord and savior the government. Ya'll don't believe in shit but corrupt politicians and police.

I’m down with it all except the extra patrols - gastapo in the making.

I grew up in that area back in the 60's through early 80's. Several years ago I went back for a ride to 4-Peaks. My first impression was how trashed the area was with garbage scattered every where, including around all those ATV staging areas. There were also areas where the hill sides glittered from all the busted glass bottles from target shooting. While I do not agree with fee areas, people have brought this on to themselves. It is only going to get worse as the Valley area continues to turn into a giant cesspool.

we pay off road tag fees now more fee to go on land we the tax payers pay tax to have. I love the free country we live in

$8.9 BILLION dollars is the USFS budget. These fees are likely funding the website to collect fees.

80% of the trash out there is from target shooters. They haul crap out there to shoot at and then just leave it behind. Reminds me of toddlers not putting away their toys when they're finished. Then everyone else has to treat them like the babies they are and pick up after them. They have no respect for the land or other people. Hopefully these fees will keep them away. But I fear they will just find other places that are still free and trash those instead.

That area has been used and abused for so long. I built some of that piperail fence for the USFS in that area and we would pick up loads and loads of trash everyday in the same spots every morning from people coming in at night to shoot. This is just another example of a small group ruining it for everyone else

None of this would have happened if side by sides were not a thing and if people didn't flood here. Az native here.

Can we please protest this? What say did the people who pay our taxes and employ the USFS have in this matter??

They should charge $20 per wheel. We all know it's the SXS's and the 4WD's bringing in and leaving the trash.

Blame the jerks that Break trails and toss mountains of trash that cover Sycamore Creek in Bud Lite and Modelo can every weekend. That shoot up hundred year old cacti. I knew this was coming years ago. That area has been so abused and neglected by the public, honestly i am glad to see they fees and I hope they enforce it.

Nice setup. How do you like your diesel?

If the fees yield better road maintenance I'll be amazed.

As long as the fees are used to put dumpsters at the beginning of the roads… so people can pick up trash and clean up the desert. All abandoned RVs will be picked up …. It’s all good.

What does this mean for the sxs rental Companies running out there ?

Very nice video, I’m looking on options for setting up my Jeep for overlanding. Clean and thoughtfully laid out design.

"Tragedy of the Commons" in real life. If you want an economics lesson, look up that term. It's a theory of the whole situation.

@everyone Permit site went live on 1/1/25. Here is the link www.recreation.gov/activitypass/AP22844/order

When will the permits be available, right now they are not