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@@wallysworkin823 well it is back closed again so hopefully not for as long as this time.

I literally showed a map and said the road number was 143 in the first 30 seconds of the video.

I showed the sign at 16:07 in the video. There is also another one near the Apache Lake Vista. How are the conditions? Still good? We haven’t gotten any real rain so I would expect it’s still pretty smooth.

@@Trail89Adventures came in at the end of the day,afterseeing the Primitive sign, i was definitely on alert,a low vehicle, and glad i have had 30+ years of navigating,there is no sign that says 4 wheel, i had no desire to retrace, there is a lot of wash board and some smooth areas, i cant imagine the repair done is going to hold for long.....some one hand set little rocks all along the edge, seriously? what are they thinking, we will see soon enough, rain coming by sunday/monday. take care out there.....enjoy the cooler temps

@@Nohugpls It is a beautiful trail. Once you get to the top the views of Roosevelt Lake are awesome. Great place at the top to catch a sunset as well. Thanks for watching!

@@lindasmith4luv yup…paving it on the east side from Apache to Roosevelt. Great scenery. Some of those mountain roads in Colorado are definitely on the side of sketch! Thanks for watching

@@3RAN7ON HaHa yeah could have but…..

That's awesome! I have used Bobby's trail guides many times. He has impacted my wheeling experience more than he will ever know.

@@shrek1983able thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed the video. Unfortunately this trail is closed again due to the wildfires this year. The Forest Service is currently showing this closed until at least 12/31/24. The coordinates for the beginning of the trail are 33.86516 -111.62725 This is also a permit required area. You can search for the permit are Recreation.gov.

@@az4x4taco420 No, I ran it west to east.

@@TheJamesConrad here are the coordinates to start on the north end. 34.93668, -111.93457 Trail Guide is also posted on TrailsOffroad if you subscribe to it. trailsoffroad.onelink.me/pMhk?af_web_dp=https%3A%2F%2Ftrailsoffroad.com%2Ftrails%2F2083&af_xp=custom&af_channel=website&af_dp=trailsoffroad%3A%2F%2F&pid=app_share&deep_link_value=trail&c=trail_2083&deep_link_sub1=2083&deep_link_sub2=%5B%5B-111.94239104166627%2C+34.88772701472044%5D%2C+%5B-111.90977102145553%2C+34.936682023108006%5D%5D&af_sub2=%5B%5B-111.94239104166627%2C+34.88772701472044%5D%2C+%5B-111.90977102145553%2C+34.936682023108006%5D%5D

@@Trail89Adventures this is awesome thank you!

@@TheJamesConradno problem! Have fun. Let me know how it goes!

@@Trail89Adventures did it today - thanks for the coordinates! Real easy to find from there.

@@TheJamesConrad awesome! Glad you had a good trail run! Do any other trails out here? There are quite a few in the area.

@@mannygonzales5034 it was fun. I still need to go back and finish that trail.

@Trail89Adventures Let me know when you go out to a light trail. I would like a guide to off roading, and been watching your videos and your pretty educated. So it would be appreciated.

When I ran this trail, my Jeep was a stock Rubicon on 33” tires. Not sure how that compares to your truck. The most difficult parts were at 13:00 and 17:00 minutes in the video. Hope that helps.

@@chrisdemopoulos9918 coordinates are 33.36022, -111.39579 There are a bunch of shorter trails back in this area. It is on the north side of Peralta Rd off of the US60 near Gold Canyon. This is on AZ State Trust Land so you need a state trust permit.

We were pretty worn out and didn’t stop. You recommend anywhere specifically for the next time I head out there?

Thanks for the sub. Right now the trail is probably the easiest it has ever been. I was running 4-Hi but probably could have run it in 2WD. There were AZ State Police at the top and bottom but I think they were really looking for people hauling trailers. There are signs saying 4WD required but like I said it was pretty easy going.

​@@Trail89AdventuresSuper helpful! I imagine if things got wet or muddy it'd be a different story! Feeling pretty confident we'll be just fine!

Thanks for the sub. This is a great trail. Had a lot of run running this. Definitely much less traveled than Montana Mountain. Scenery is fantastic. Have fun.

@@your_average_enthusiast yeah it certainly could be to remove liability or something. But even with it being so smooth right now, there are definitely people that should never even attempt going down that hill. lol.

Unfortunately I didn’t get to experience that. I did see where they bored a tunnel through the rock to allow the road over the dam. Has a big gate on it now but was open the day we ran it. Looks like they still use it for access.

Oh that is a cool story. Being up and so close to that part of the history. Appreciate you sharing that.

@@ianlaughlin85 I got to the petroglyphs coming from US60 on the north end. I have heard of people talk about issues entering from the west but we’re still able to get through. Sounds like you can’t now.

We exited that way and there was a do not enter sign right off the US60. That would be the easiest way though. ​@Trail89Adventures

@Trail89Adventures we just did the Apache Trail a couple days ago. I highly recommend it. 👍

@@ianlaughlin85 you can’t beat the scenery out there. It is just beautiful

@@ianlaughlin85 interesting. I haven’t been out in box canyon area for a while.

The road is super smooth. Not a pothole in sight. Not sure of the reasoning.

@@rickanna8662 you know it would have been super fun to record it but I didn’t. It all started as just a conversation on the side of the road. Cool guy though.

@@jlrecoder1 the trail starts where the pavement ends on AZ state Route 88 about 5.3 miles east of Tortilla Flat. The coordinates are 33.53797, -111.32504 hope that helps.

Thank you so much! I also just subscribed! Great video

@@jlrecoder1 awesome glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the sub

@@doza7520 probably an hour to an hour and a half each way.

@@Trail89Adventures Thank you so much! What a pretty ride!

Thanks. We had a great time out there. Enjoy your trip!

@@bobfincher1767 ballpark about 3 miles. Thanks for watching! The trail is actually closed at the moment due to the wildfires in the Superstition Wilderness.

@@Trail89Adventures planning to hike it when open

@@Viking_Kong talking to different people they all seem to think it has been there for a while but nonetheless it is not cool.

Yeah, it was super fun. Just glad you found the problem before you went out on the trail. It gets out there pretty far. Break down would not be cool.

@@davestevens3197 I don’t have any drone footage in my video….. the current project they are working on is to pave the road from Apache lake to Roosevelt dam. They have been working on it for a while and it isn’t finished yet. You will come across sections that are paved and sections that are going to be paved.

According to ADOT, the project completed to open the road as it is now, cost about $4M. The recommended alternative project is the $35M. This $35M project includes the following: (copied from ADOT website) The study team identified a Recommended Alternative that is a hybrid of the three main Build Alternatives and was presented to the public and stakeholders in August 2023 as ADOT’s Preferred Hybrid Alternative. It would provide the following benefits: -The roadway would be widened to a minimum of 15 feet on Fish Creek Hill -The roadway would receive a chip seal surface. -New colored (or painted) concrete barrier would replace existing guardrail on Fish Creek Hill. -The existing bridges would be repaired and rehabilitated to extend their service lives. -Several retaining walls would be constructed to avoid impacts to the wilderness area. -The drainage facilities would be upsized and increased to accommodate medium-large predicted storms. -Safety improvements would include new signs, reflectors, and pullouts to allow vehicles to pass in narrow sections. -Some rockfall improvements would be made. -The potential for environmental impacts is moderate based on the size of the disturbance area and potential for work outside the ADOT easement on Tonto National Forest Lands.

@@Trucker316 I grew up in PA but was too young to know the difference. With living out here now, there is so much opportunity to get out and see the beautiful landscape. I just enjoy the scenery. It never ceases to amaze me. Sorry to hear about your Mom. Thanks for the comment.

Thanks for watching! I am sure it will be busy this weekend.

@@cw50must the leaves on those trees were such a solid green it looked way out of place. But when they are that green, you know there is water.