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Believe it's Tunisian

@@ez2733 very true, and I would also argue it’s incredibly difficult for a club player to time hitting the ball that’s dropping from a high toss

Let me know how it goes!

In this case the talking was brilliant.

@@peterrattenbury8608 yeah, the guy knows what he's talking about, and he's giving advice for advanced players, which is sometime rare on youtube

@@mightbefire usually just forehand return goes here, backhand return goes there. Or maybe you’re going to the same spot whether it’s a fh or bh. Goal is to keep it simple!

@@StokkeTennis got it, thanks, tried that last night and it helped a lot on a couple shots. Returning from the ad side I just picked the singles line crosscourt for both sides. It allowed me to adjust depending on how deep the serve was, or how far I was pulled in either direction.

You can't read location by toss...only the likely spin of the shot

Nope! Same rules apply

Perfect! Thank you @@StokkeTennis

Love to hear that!!

@@chinaski5 I prefer a lower toss than that

Is that fine? Didn’t you see the serve?

Yep. That racquet has a super big sweet spot 😂

@@johncharles2357 do you think a slow, high ball that’s a short angle can be attacked?

@@StokkeTennis Certainly, if they have decent footwork. But if you pull your opponent off the court, their attack has to be very precise (low percentage), and if they don't execute, they are in a bad position.

@@johncharles2357 Wouldn't their attack have to be very precise from behind the baseline as well? Almost no angle back there.

@@hanlee5292 yes it doesn’t drop much at all

@@StokkeTennis looks like he often hit while it is significantly dropping. But then he had a monster athleticism 😅 th-cam.com/video/0tP2pmXd9Gk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yaBttych79eSdpDR

@@SnowCrust they don’t do it? Do all amateurs do it?

@@StokkeTennis yes Im amateur n I do it without thinking about it. It's like saying your arms swinging back n forth when u running. It's just natural

@@SnowCrustThen you are among the best. Well done!

@@SnowCrust Go to any local court and you'll see a ton of amateurs that don't do this and would benefit from this tip.

The head is part of the body so they all rise together! But lifting into your shot is an essential part of the swing.

@@gofish721 would love to see that video! I’ve read his average is 18-24 inches above, which is great. Typically players with the HIGHEST tosses have been on the low-end of quality servers

I mean if you had Federer's serve you wouldn't be on youtube :)

​@@StokkeTennisI agree it's just hard to time it. Interestingly among top players, Stich actually came out above sampras for quality, I saw ivanesavic live once, the timing was unbelievable.

correct

I think this tip would be best suited to Zverev.

I humbly disagree. I think you'll create more problems by not lifting then adding that "moving part".

@@StokkeTennis Jonathan, I respect you as a high level player and a good coach. I have a feeling that we’re too obsessed about power and racket head speed while we can’t hit a target on the court more than 3-4 times in a row. So I’m giving my opinion as an adult learner of years that nothing beats having a clean contact with the ball considering none of us have the great positioning, coordination and timing of the pros. That’s why I think fewer the moving parts the better. For the same reason it’s just silly to try to flip/lag the racket, inverse the racket face hugely like Sinner or use extreme grips and that. I believe you need to earn the credentials to use those things, which is pretty much impossible for an average rec player during their lifetime. A pro player has 100 times the court time and start at age 4 to be able to hit like that.

@@watcher687 agree with all that! I just think even 3.0 players should be lifting 6 inches at least on a groundstroke.

​​@@watcher687I'll just say it -- this is nonsense. Every player not only must rise at least slightly while making contact but must also rotate the upper body -- otherwise it would just be swinging with the arm muscles across the body. And lagging the racquet is only for pros? That's just absurd. The only way to get even a decent 3.0 forehand is if the wrist opens during the unit turn when the racquet drops. That's the lag and even children get this down. Once I got that I could work on consistency and power. One doesn't have to rise up a great deal, and the head can still focus on the ball, but there must be a loading in the legs that is released. That isn't pro territory alone. Every decent rec player does this and can easily start to direct balls with consistency.

@@MichaelDamianPHD Keep it simple, MichaelPhd!

@@NamesAreRandom yes, some lift more than others, but they all lift

@@Lucian86 crucial groundstroke fundamental

@@StokkeTennis btw, we're using the same racket...what do you like about it?

@@JacquesPretorius-p9j Ruud from this year’s us open

@@saadrbsongs tough for me to know without seeing you play, unfortunately!

I'm just sharing what has worked for me and my players, at all levels. From 3.0 all the way up to D1. I'm not claiming it's the only way to play doubles, just what's worked for me! All the best.

@@vp5957 yep. It’s hard to get the toss in that correct range. Also hard to toss high and time things perfectly AND have a consistent toss. Serving is hard!

Of course you have to toss slightly higher than you actually hit it. But the principle of tossing as low as you can while still hitting it as high as you can is good. It's just easier to hit a ball with less movement. The ball having more vertical speed is only minimally beneficial for spin serve. Basically you just want to reduce as many moving parts as possible for stuff which barely generates power to be as consistent as possible. So toss with straight arm, hold the ball with middle of your hand (don't use fingers, elbow etc) and toss low.

It's how you generate rythmn. Very few players are comfortable tossing whole bending their knees. I think kyrgios has an almost perfect motion, in terms of easy power, he tosses a little higher.