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Night and day difference. Vintage much, much better sounding. Not even close, especially on clean samples. JJ just sounds dead.

Thanks! Another was an ear-opener-it revealed another incredible difference, so surprising to hear both sounding so pleasant in their own unique ways, each with a very distinct stereo field.

Thanks! That was an ear-opener-it revealed an incredible difference, and it was so surprising to hear both summing units sounding so pleasant in their own unique ways, each with a distinct stereo field.

I use 3 JJ 12ax7 tubes in my phono preamplifier and they are pretty good. I've had them for a few years and zero problems.

Hi, thanks for your great channel. May I ask you a question? I have been doing a lot of research to replace the preamp tubes in my Fender Blues Junior guitar amp. Thanks to your videos i can clearly hear that 1960s Mullards are more pleasing to my ears than the JJs that I was thinking of getting. Now I have 2 Blackburn 1960s Mullards and a 1969 Brimar on the way from eBay. In this amp v3 is the phase inverter - do you have any recommendations for which ones I should put in which positions? Eg Brimar in the v3 PI socket and v1 and v2 both Mullard?

Ok now that you've read our comments on which we prefer.....which tube do you prefer and why? Ive got mullards, amperex and phillips but no tungsram. Hmmm i may have to pick one up for a different flavor.

I have a pair of these tubes (but Pinnacle labeled) in my TL Audio Ivory 2 5021 stereo compressor. They sound punchy as hell!! They make the definition of bass notes incredibly well defined. I fully rate these tubes ❤❤❤

I listened to this video with good monitor headphones i can say that except gain which is not proper to test this video with difference in volume . the sound difference is chaotic the Ei , bloats the sound and creates a more mushy coloured result , the telefunken on the other hand has a clear sound with balanced configuration and proper individual organ discrimination ... i would choose the Telefunken all the way

Tungsram is super underrated - early production ecc83 are absolute gems

Awesome tubes! Recommended! Grtz from Hungary

Nice playing. The Mullard sounds a touch fuller. Tungsram maybe a touch more lower mids? Very similar

The earlier production JJ ECC83S tubes were raved about by all that used them. I still have some in my collection and yes they still sound great. So something changed at JJ as they went from having the best of type tube to making something below par.

but why do they sound different?

just sounds like you lowered the volume for the new tubes

i cant hear a difference maybe i need headphones..im not sure i am very surprised at the comments all saying how much better the vintage sound

Thank you for the comparison, great video!

I liked the vintage better on the solo tracks, but when the the other instruments were added I felt the JJ's had more clarity and air in the mix. It reminds me of the subtle differences between a Neve board and an API board. Neve having the more warm, huge sound...while the API has unmatched clarity and punchiness. As more tracks are layered, those sonic signatures tend to compound....so warm & huge is more prone to muddiness, while clarity & punchiness are more prone to becoming warmer and tighter. So I'd take the Philips tube for playing solo guitar and then use the JJ for playing in a band or multi-track recording.

this video makes a lot of sense why music from back in the day just has alot more life

What year is the mullard? Im looking to purchase a mullard for this sound!!! Also, any tips when looking for this tube?

May be its personal taste but I preferred the 6N2P by far-cleaner,open, detailed,exciting,foot tapping. The ECC83 sounded just the opposite. Very muted and dull lacking excitement, smeary as though someone grabbed the treble tone control and turned it down.

What amp? is this secret?

I have a Mazda tube that says Made in England BVA, which confused me because when I search online I see that Mazda is made in France. Ah, so now I can assume I have a Brimar. Thanks for the info

2 years back I bought a Philips 12ax7 labelled tube with delta 7l and a barely visible mc5 on the bottle. However, it has a ring getter and not a D. This confused me as I later read that all the long plates had D getters - yet your second tube has a ring! In other words - I'm happy to see I wasn't tricked!

Do you have any experience with the square getter tubes? I've been interested in seeing the differences.

The new tubes were a tad granier in the mids which I liked, and the old had a tad more depth and top end presence.

The gain on the JJ seems slightly lower than the gain on the miniwatt.

Yes, PHILIPS product from 1959 Amperex Holland and Siemens Halske Munich are some of my favorites...

the asking prices for real lorenz stuttgart are stupid expensive. i luv those valvos.

The first track with the clean electric guitars shows the differences the best - nice test !

Awesome video!!! Can't wait to try it in my preamp 🤪

Thanks man! You described the differences exactly how I heard it. Got a lot of german old and nos tubes myself. The ECC808 are basically new and will loosen up a little bit after a reasonable burn in or using time. They may become very similar to the regular ECC83 valvos regardless of their construction. The glass of the 808 seems to be thicker also - mabe to achieve higher vacuum and longer lifetime out of these expensiver examples. These where also used in laboratory measuring instruments. At least that was where I pulled them out back in the days when Höchst Industries gone down and scraped their old equipment.

The Valvo ECC83 sounded great... more dimensional. Nice video.

The valvo sounds more low mids to me. Nice comparison.

Nice as per usual! What amp do you use? Is it the same amp for both the clean and gain tones? Regards

No, the Mullards Don't have "slightly more detail and definition". It's the other way around.

Short plate tube sounds almost always thinner and more sterile than medium and long plate tube version. Compare always tubes with pretty equal height of plate never a long vs short plate!

Although I think the Philips tubes were winners here, I do like the JJ long plate tubes a lot. The long plate modern tubes are certainly decent sounding. In this test, the JJ had a tighter more defined bass response and good frequency extension. Plenty good enough for most cases, but you are right when you say the vintage tubes sound more '3D'. The 3 dimensional midrange of the Philips was very noticeable and awesome sounding, but at the cost of a less well defined bass response. I'm currently choosing tubes for some Pultec style EQ's for mastering and may well go for either the JJ ECC803S or Sovtek 12AX7LPS purely for their linearity and neutrality. Still, gotta love the old tubes though ❤

the Tube Sound Comparison is not fair. the ECC83 is direct and the 6N2P is handicaped by several contacts more due to adaptators. Anyway, the 6N2P does the work fine.

I have both and I prefer Tungsram.

Both are lovely. Thank you

I like the 6N2P too and the price remains very favourable Thank you for a very good video

The JJ sounds smaller and etches the sound in an unpleasant way. I remember trying the JJ 12AU7 in my tube channel strip. It was unusable. NOS FTW!

Tungsrams sound richer and more harmonically complex - to my ears anyway 😂

Thanks for the video. I needed to hear what someone thought about the RFT ECC83. Now I know what my options lean towards. Thanks

Interesting ? Never used JJ tubes , I have a selection of vintage tubes that I swap but for new tubes EH is workable . In my Mc240 I can hear whatever changes tubes make. Telefunken is always nice.

Just recently got more serious about rolling quality, vintage preamp tubes in and out of my guitar amp and just want to say that I have been enjoying the content of your videos. Good stuff! 👍 So far, I'm really liking the Tungsram ECC83, after using a late 50's Baldwin-branded Raytheon Black Plate for the past few months. Both are VERY nice compared to the contemporary tube makes. Next up will be a GE-branded Mullard I63 Blackburn, like the tube you've shown here in this video.

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thank you for your videos ...I have learned much from your vids.

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Is the jj sounds good in tube mic?