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Bill Palmer
United States
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2006
Let's Talk About Soaring. Here I'll try to post instructional videos on soaring subjects that I feel the usual printed matter doesn't really do a great job at as well as some videos of my soaring adventures - some in 360VR, so hook up your VR headset and check them out.
Check out episode 88 of the Soaring the Sky podcast where I am interviewed.
www.soaringthesky.com/2021/03/16/88-a-gift-of-soaring-soaring-across-america-bill-palmer-eric-carden-interviews/
Glider pilots should check out my soaring resources page at theSoaringPage.com
Check out episode 88 of the Soaring the Sky podcast where I am interviewed.
www.soaringthesky.com/2021/03/16/88-a-gift-of-soaring-soaring-across-america-bill-palmer-eric-carden-interviews/
Glider pilots should check out my soaring resources page at theSoaringPage.com
Spin Training Day
A spin training lesson for a pre-solo glider student.
This training is not intended to teach the student to be good at doing spins. It's to teach how to be good at NOT doing spins!
The training videos and other spin training references shown in the first part of this video may be accessed at thesoaringpage.com/#spins
This video is not flight instruction but is an example of flight instruction and is for entertainment purposes.
This training is not intended to teach the student to be good at doing spins. It's to teach how to be good at NOT doing spins!
The training videos and other spin training references shown in the first part of this video may be accessed at thesoaringpage.com/#spins
This video is not flight instruction but is an example of flight instruction and is for entertainment purposes.
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Wave and a Land Out
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11/16/24 Re-upload of this video. A challenging wave day started with a rainy morning and low clouds. As the clouds started to break we climbed into the wave and go looking for more. With no lenticulars to mark the wave well and a mix of cumulus we missed a climb spot downwind of the mountains and landed out at Borrego Valley airport. The towplane retrieved us for a tow back into the wave where...
XD Soaring Adventures: Joshua Tree
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Another episode of Ex Delta Soaring Adventures with a really fun autumn flight from 10/1/24 I'm flying with Zach Yamauchi today. We start off thinking that we can go south to the Mexican border, but Zach finds no lift down there to start. So, we joint up and head north to Mt San Gorgonio and then decided to give it a try down to Joahua tree. There wasn't much lift down there, but we followed so...
Soaring the Ridge
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Soaring the ridge of Hot Springs Peak from Sky Sailing in Warner Springs, CA Flying is a 13 year old student with instructor joined by his dad and instructor in the other glider. For more soaring information visit TheSoaringPage.com For lessons, and glider rides in the San Diego area contact Sky Sailing 760-782-0404 Music by Scott Buckley - released under CC-BY 4.0. www.scottbuckley.com.au
Flight Following for Gliders
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Written with USA Glider pilots on mind, this video takes you through what flight following is, how to contact ATC for service, traffic advisories, terminating flight following, and how to know where the highest risk areas of confusion occur. For more Glider pilot resources visit TheSoaringPage.com Shop for cool glider merch at my store: the-soaring-page.creator-spring.com Music by Scott Buckley...
XΔ Adventures: Erik Flies the Wave
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10/28/24 Erik Burrows and I take the Duo Discus up for a beautiful Southern California wave-day flight with lots of gorgeous lenticular clouds. Winds were high, over 60 knots at times, which generated some excellent conditions and required some good planning. We climb on good conditions encountered early in the tow and elect to get off at only 2000 AGL, then climb to almost 13,000 before transi...
XΔ Soaring Adventures 940 KM
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Ex Delta Soaring Adventures Sit back and come with my on a gliding adventure. A 7 hour flight packed into 25 minutes. I declared a 750KM task and the entire flight covered 740 kilometers /460 statute miles at an average speed of 136kph / 85 mph. That makes this flight my farthest and fastest to date. My declared task started with a southbound leg to Acorn Casino then north to Mt San Gorgonio, t...
Soft Release
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The soft release technique eases the tension on the tow rope before release to avoid recoil, be gentle on the release hardware. Thanks to my students who flew these demonstrations. Visit TheSoaringPage.com for more soaring information. Produced by Bill Palmer Filmed at Warner Springs, CA. Music by Scott Buckley - released under CC-BY 4.0. www.scottbuckley.com.au
ΧΔ Soaring Adventures: Mt Wilson
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My best flight to date. A fantastic forecast and great flying weather. July 6, 2024 Trace for the flight found at: www.weglide.org/flight/430287 Flight stats: 5:48 duration 706km distance Average speed 127 kph/78.9 mph Flying out of Warner Springs, CA Aircraft: ASG29 Cameras: DJI Ozmo Pocket 3, Insta360 X3 Music By Scott Buckley - released under CC-BY 4.0. www.scottbuckley.com.au/
ΧΔ Barstow-Dagget & the Mexican Border
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Soaring from Warner Springs, CA, A beautiful 4:15 flight 100 miles north to Barstow-Dagget airport - a goal of mine as I had not been that far north from Warner Springs before, then south to the Mexican border before returning to Mt. San Jacinto for the final glide home. I was carrying about 190 lbs of water ballast to help improve my speed. That helped me average 144 kph (90mph) over the 593km...
Glider gets low on mountain
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Part of a 4½ flight that included a trip to the southern border and here the northern end on Mt San Jacinto. Anticipated lift on Tahquitz ridge was not there. Searched a couple of passes for ridge life and then moved toward my alternate airport (Hemet-Ryan) while searching for lift on now the upwind side of the moutian- which I found. Though weak I worked it until at a safe altitude to resume t...
A vistit to the Minnesota Soaring Club
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I paid a visit to the Minnesota Soaring Club based at Stanton MN. This is a club I used to be a member of 30 years ago when I lived in Minnesota. It's a great operation at the only privately owned airport in the state. Music by Scott Buckley "Adrift Among the Stars" www.scottbuckley.com.au
Glider spinning cockpit view in 360 VR
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360°clip from spin training in an SGS 2-32 Raw footage from my Insta360 X3 Spin around to watch me in the back seat cool as a cucumber as we spin toward the ground. For more soaring information see TheSoaringPage.com
500 ft Rope Break
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Demo of a simulated rope break at 500 feet AGL in a Grob 103. We’re in no rush to turn around, in fact the threat is being too close to the airport with any significant tailwind. The pilot ensures he has adequate airspeed before turning as he must account for an increase in stall speed with a steep turn. Nice low speed low-energy touchdown, rolling up to right where we wanted to start the subse...
XΔ Soaring Adventures: To Crystal and the Border
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5/11/24 It was a great soaring day. I took the opportunity to make it my farthest flight so far. I had gone to Crystal from Warner Springs once before, but today I'll add a trip to the Mexican border on to the end. Glider: ASG-29 callsign X-Delta More details on the flight are available on my WeGlide page here: www.weglide.org/flight/396541 Including animation playback and the ability to see th...
Beautiful Wave Day in SoCal Soaring Day
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Beautiful Wave Day in SoCal Soaring Day
Schweizer Tow Hook Operation and Inspection
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Schweizer Tow Hook Operation and Inspection
Loved it! Makes me feel like I was there & want to be there at the same time! Cheers
The zero G maneuver is what we call " The Canadian Space Program " up here in the Great White North.
Indeed, I often refer to it as "astronaut training" :-)
Nice to use the SGS 2-32. It will spin opposite on a secondary stall if the rudder is not centered during recovery. Again nice vid
Indeed. Proper coordination is essential in this glider or it will "take you to school"
Great video and editing! You're awesome at being informative and making the whole experience interesting to watch!
Appreciate the kind words, glad you liked it!
Well done, and what fun!
You're thermalling at the slowest possible speed , we can see your LS3 is buffeting at intervals .
Look more closely at the airspeed indicator. My camera was mounted on a long, rather flimsy mount and it tended to bounce around a lot. I think that's probably what you're seeing.
Always love your videos, but this one is my new favorite. Thanks!!!
@@alexarnoldy thanks!
Catching up on older video's, thank you for this Bill. I found myself too caught up in the action & wish you had fast forwarded so much of the flights ha ha. Cheers.
Thanks for watching. Question: re: " wish you had fast forwarded so much of the flights" you wish I had or had NOT fast forwarded?
@@BillPalmer oh, oops. I meant Hadn't ha ha. Love watching long flights & contests. Cheers.
Bill, It looked like your wingman was in a DG 800 or 808 S? I'm planning to go look at the one up in Minden, so maybe there be another one flying in SoCal Next year. Nice video.
FWS is a DG800S. Thanks!
Love the narrative and jumps to the map overview. Fun video as always. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks. Always good to hear what my viewers like!
Can you make another quick video going more into water ballast? I get the principal ideas but don't really understand the specific ways in which it allows your plane to get better xc speeds.
@AirJoe Thanks for the idea. I will consider it for a future video. In the meantime I’ll direct you to the Badge and XC Soaring section of TheSoaringPage.com. Specifically under XC Performane. There you’ll find several resources that describe the intricacies of optimizing cross country speed.
Nice flight! Thanks for sharing.
That was awesome man, thank you!
Great late season flying! Love the videos!
great seeing you on Sunday Bill, keep the videos coming.
Likewise!
nice video..thanks for sharing..
And who doesnt love a square root. All the girls at my high school thats just for a start😢
I’m sure there’s a good joke in there somewhere 😁
Great explanation! Thank you so much!
Beautiful Fall scenery!
Beautiful video Bill!! Man..I’d love to do more ridge soaring!
Interesting landscape. So many huge boulders .
Very typical of many Southern California mountains
What a fantastic experience for such a young man!
The really cool part was that his dad was flying the other glider
@@BillPalmer Awesome!
Thanks for the advice!
Glad you found it helpful!
Very interesting discourse. Fundamentally when you Bank a turn in an airplane you are pushing into your safety parameters. If you have an overloaded plane and you managed to take off, it will fly straight, but when you start to turn you start giving up things in a geometric progression in a trigonometric relationship that gobles up control authority. I can't get enough data to calculate what Bank angle would lead you with the most altitude at the end of a 360 turn. I wish I could get somebody that had a good glider to go up and get a lot of altitude and make three loops at a 45° angle and three loops in a 30 ° angle and see which one loses the most altitude for 360 degrees.
I have a spreadsheet that let's you explore all the possibilities with lots of parameters plotted over a wide range or bank angles. Go to TheSoaringPage.com and under the Learning/Ground Study section look for "Bank angle & performance sheet" you'll find a PDF and Excel version. The values are based well established formulas available in articles on the subject found in the Aerodynamics Puzzler articles from Soaring Magazine (also available in the Aerodynamics section) on that website. Enjoy.
Have you thought about flying airplanes?
well, I had a 36 year airline career, so yes, I thought about it quite a bit :-)
ur amazing, this was so helpful
Thanks. I try to take on subjects that aren’t explained well in other places. Let me know of suggestions along that line.
Excellent and informative video Bill! Calling LA Center during our cross-country wave flight caused me much more anxiety than actually flying, oddly. This gives great pointers for next time.
It will become easier and less intimidating each time.
This seems way above a new privat pilot level of understanding. At least it is for me.
Absolutely not. Don’t be afraid to talk to ATC. It’s pretty simple once you understand the flow of things and the typical order it’s done in. Try listening to liveatc.net to become more comfortable with understanding the radio chatter
My first reaction (prior to a month ago) was "Why use flight following? If ATC can see me, they will route others around me anyway, and if ATC can't see me, they can't provide flight following". But about a month ago, I had an NMAC (Near Mid-Air Collision) while thermalling at 16,500' near Twenty-Nine Palms. Another glider was climbing in the same thermal, about 1000' above me. A Cessna Citation passed by at my exact altitude, about 800' away horizontally. I contacted ATC, and they told me that both of us were VFR, with neither using flight following. I got the N number of the Citation, and used ADSB Exchange to see their entire flight. They took off from Arizona, climbed, engaged auto-pilot, and kept it on until descending at Long Beach. It was clearly on auto-pilot for the entire cruise phase, and you could easily tell, as their course was ruler straight, far straighter than any pilot could manually fly. Because we were VFR, separation is See and Avoid, but those in the Citation obviously weren't even looking. I was looking, had ADSB In/Out, and a Mode C transponder, which was working, as ADSB Exchange had my entire flight as well. I also had a FLARM, and an LX flight computer, that for whatever reason never gave me even an audible traffic advisory, even though I confirmed with the manufacturer that per my settings, it should have. I saw the jet at about 10 seconds prior to our closest point. If I was directly on the other side of the thermal, I never would have seen them at all, and our separation would have been in the 100-200' range. So technically, I did nothing wrong, but still ended up in a very high risk situation. Had I been on flight following at that point in time, I would have been advised of that traffic. So there is my use case. I have noted in the last few years an increase of people relying on ADSB and Auto-pilot, and flying VFR without flight following. I think with the ADSB 2020 mandate, many pilots assume that they can now see all traffic, and all traffic can see them. Obviously this is not true. Until the FAA bans using auto-pilot during See & Avoid VFR flight without flight following (which they likely will never do), that risk remains. This is your way to safeguard against that risk. The more we glider pilots use flight following, the more the ATC controllers will get used to dealing with us, and understand what gliders can and can't do.
Agree 100%. Auto pilot under VFR will never be banned, my fear is too many pilots depend on the magic and allow their skills to degrade. I must have had 1000 hours before i ever saw an autopilot, now they’re in primary trainers.
@@BillPalmer Not just Auto-pilot under VFR, it's the trifecta that should be banned: Auto-Pilot, VFR, and no VFR flight following. Put all 3 together, and pilots stop looking, and have nobody else looking for them. If the Cessna had not been doing all 3, there would not have been an issue at all. They are pretending to do See & Avoid, but in fact are not. That Cessna Citation had no idea what almost occurred. I also tried to reach out to them to at least help improve their awareness, but the in the FAA registry, they are hiding behind an LLC (Go Far Aviation, LLC) with only a PO Box.
@@cdeerinck Indeed. with a jet, they should be filing IFR in the class A and get all the traffic separation they need. Cruising along going fast with no traffic advisory below 18K is obviously risky. They may think that everyone's got ADSB above 10K so they'll see everyone (assuming they have ADSB-in) but they forget about the exceptions to that rule.
Bill this is very interesting. . . Staying well within class G airspace, I'd like to some day legally experiment with cloud soaring. I'm considering discussing my options with Transport Canada (I'm in Canada) to perhaps get temporary permission to do cloud soaring in a given area. . . One of the biggest dangers with cloud soaring is knowing if there are any power planes in the vicinity. Flight following could be a great tool. . Comments?
I’m not familiar with the rules in a Canada but in the US that requires an instrument rating, instrument currency, and a clearance (except in class G- but there’s precious little class G above 1200 feet left in the lower 48). Never attempt instrument flight without proper training, many VFR pilots perish doing that.
Great video, I'm impressed with your situational awareness of the surrounding airspace. I'm an air traffic controller at March Air Force Base and it seems half my job is keeping pilots away from the Perris and Lake Elsinore skydiving sites, two of the most active skydiving sites in the world. But pilots are often unaware of them and almost seem to be magnetically attracted to them. I have a fun story for you; In ATC when you call for flight following we must input a flight plan to a destination airport. If the flight is something like aerial photography or a glider on a round robin flight, we'll put in some random airport nearby, even though we know you won't be landing there. Last month I got a flight plan for a glider near Mt San Jacinto at 10,000 landing at HMT which is in my airspace. I assumed it wasn't actually landing at HMT and SoCal just used that airport to get a flight plan in the system. I was curious because I want to get my glider rating so I googled the tail number, N29XD, and it came up with the name Bill Palmer! I was like "Oh shit! I watch that guy on TH-cam!" I'm also an PPL and IR pilot and I've always wanted to get into flying gliders, I plan on starting training at Warner Springs in a couple months. Your videos inspired me to finally get it done, and I finally live in an area where gliders are common. I moved here from Maine... Not much glider flying in the north woods....
Now is a great time to start. That way when you are ready to solo, thermalling season is just kicking off. A lot of people wait until late spring or early summer to start, and then hit the solo stage just as the thermalling season tends to wind down.
I second what @cdeerinck said. In the mean time, Russell Holtz's glider books are a great place to start your ground training if you can't start flying just yet. In gliders, you enter a whole new realm of aeronautical knowledge, especially when it comes to weather. Getting your glider rating is something you'll never regret!
Thanks for the insight from the ATC view. My awareness of the airspace comes from my past life as an airline pilot, it trying to share that awareness here. Jump areas are one of the most difficult for pilots to ascertain the existence and status of. Much more obscure than TFRs or MOAs. Sometimes buried in the NOTAMS, and poor symbology and info on the sectional. How funny that you worked my flight! I didn’t know that controllers needed an airport to fill in. I had told SoCal approach that we were just following the mountains westbound for 100 miles. Now I know to have an airport ID available for them to check the box with. Soaring conditions at Warner Springs are excellent and we can use all four types of lift there in various conditions. (Thermal, convergence, wave, and ridge), and of course I instruct there at Sky Sailing. Looking forward to flying with you! Check out the Power Pilot Transition section on my website:Thesoaringpage.com.
Hola Bill, saludos desde Argentina!!
saludos !
Always great to see a new BP soaring video
Glad you enjoy them!
This was a great watch with my morning coffee Bill . I love your channel as it is geared more towards soaring addicts , than a casual viewers . Thank you for sharing .
Great flight I saw the WeGlide upload yesterday and was waiting for the video!
What Wave forecast models do you use Bill?
Skysight.io
Great day to fly wave!
Hi Bill, many thanks for sharing and taking the time to edit and everything. I saw in WeGlide flight statistics that average speed in thermals is 133-143kph with 31-35 angles. The speed surprises me a little bit. I fly Ls1 which is obviously much slower but still looks very fast. I just ask to learn, as I have much less experience than you or than most people, not to make any critic. Many thanks again!
I don't think those speeds are necessarily accurate, I was not usually flying thermals at 75 knots!. I was flying with nearly 400 pounds of water ballast so I was thermalling a little faster than I would when dry, but not that much.
Amazing flight and video Bill! Thanks for sharing these with us. They're so fun to watch.
Glad you like them!
Congrats Bill
Congratulations on your amazing flight. I noticed you didn't take any of your climbs up to cloud base. I was thinking the convergence lift would be stronger closer to the clouds. Is there a reason why?
Well, above 10,000 feet It’s required to stay 1,000 feet below clouds! FAR 91.155
@@BillPalmer how do you measure that?
@@johnfoster1201 my flight recorders measure that and WeGlide measures it when the flight trace is uploaded. See the weglide link in the description
@@BillPalmer your flight recorders measure how far below the clouds you are? Cool! What flight recorder does that?
@@johnfoster1201 oops, that was an answer to the wrong question. As far as cloud separation goes, you have to guesstimate. You might be able to learn what the bases are by climbing next to one. At any rate, if I did get close to a cloud contrary to 91.155, I wouldn’t post evidence of it on line. (Note in class G airspace the only required clearance is not to go into the cloud)
Nice flight Bill, talk about a long flight, congratulations!!
Time flies when you’re having fun
From the first upload (that uploaded in the wrong format). @RussOwens writes: Awesome video Bill. Amazing that you can fly such a nice flight, coordinate with ATC on one frequency, coordinate with Zach on another frequency, and put together the makings of such a nice video all at the same time. I've tried to video and fly at the same time and find it extremely demanding. You do us all a favor by posting these videos. You and Zach had awesome flights on October 5. I look forward to flying more with both of you on fun days like this. . Analytics Comments
Thanks, Russ, Glad you enjoy these. One of my cameras is mounted on the side rail. It’s a 360 camera so I can just turn it on and let it go I don’t even have to aim it until I pull the video in to edit. The other handheld camera I only use in low workload periods. I can easily work it with one hand and have it set up ready to go. Working with two radio frequencies going is and airline skill - so I’ve got lots of practice at that, but still a workload management item. Now as fall is upon us let’s look for those mountain wave flying opportunities! We’re sure to have some great flights that ways too!
Stunning video Bill. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Congratulations on a great flight and an awesome video..loved tagging along!
Thanks for watching!
@18:12 That's Nuts! I wish I could expirence that! Frick! Cheers from Down Under!