I’m still learning the software. I thought it was going to spit out 360 too, but if you go to the part of the software where you can add titles and such it forces it to pancake. :-( I can spit out 360 if I post the raw files with not titles, etc or drag it into premier Pro - which has it’s own complications. It’s a learning curve and I’m still on the steep part of it.
@@BillPalmer it only works through the desktop app. Phone app will not spit out 360 that youtube can support. I went through the same learning process. Can't wait to jump into the cockpit on a true 360 with you and enjoy the panorama
One nice thing about small/light gliders, like a S 1-26, tow is so far above stall speed that you'll can easily complete the 180 with more altitude than you started with.
We might have been able to do that,but then we’d be at the far end of the airport after landing. The wind wasn’t so bad that making a downwind landing was unadvisable, but it was enough that we had to consider our height vs distance back before turning.
Have you actually ever done that? 300 feet seems pretty low to come around for a pattern of any kind (though I did do similar maneuvers during winch launch training, but that was mostly 360s overhead until you could land.) For aerotow, I teach that the situation will depend on your climb out angle, as to whether you want to come straight back in or not. Weak tow plane and heavy glider, is quite different than a light glider with a powerful towplane and a strong headwind. Most of the time you can just turn around and end up at your original takeoff position when you’re done. When landing downwind is looks sketchy then maneuver to land into the wind -either straight ahead (if available) or abbreviated pattern. Each soaring location and each takeoff will have its own unique factors and options that will affect that decision.
@@BillPalmer During training I did 2 or 3 at 200 ft which was a 180 and land downwind. And 1 at 300 which was a narrow (no base leg) pattern to a normal landing. For my private pilot flight test she pulled it at 200 so I did a downwind landing with a 15 knot tailwind with gusts. Pretty exciting in the 2-33
Exactly, and that’s the point with this one. We took off with a pretty good wind, so you don’t want to turn back too soon if you’ll be close and high with a strong tailwind.
Bill you tease! I put the VR hat on to enjoy the panaromic and you gave us pancake. Was so hopeful it was true 360.
I’m still learning the software. I thought it was going to spit out 360 too, but if you go to the part of the software where you can add titles and such it forces it to pancake. :-(
I can spit out 360 if I post the raw files with not titles, etc or drag it into premier Pro - which has it’s own complications. It’s a learning curve and I’m still on the steep part of it.
@@BillPalmer it only works through the desktop app. Phone app will not spit out 360 that youtube can support. I went through the same learning process. Can't wait to jump into the cockpit on a true 360 with you and enjoy the panorama
@@BillPalmer Hi, I fly in the UK (DSGC), tried an Insta360 and gave up, as the editing is a pain in the rear!
500 ft is sometimes normal height for winch launch on shorter airfields. I would do regular pattern, 103 definitely has legs for it.
That would be a pretty short winch airfield to only get you to 500 ft.
I’ve winched out of Jacumba, CA at only 2500 feet long and got to over 1000ft
@@BillPalmer agreed, it is, usable lenght around 700 meters. Height after disconnect around 200 meters.
One nice thing about small/light gliders, like a S 1-26, tow is so far above stall speed that you'll can easily complete the 180 with more altitude than you started with.
And being able to return at a shallower angle than you climb out at.
Was it too low to fly back around and land with a headwind?
We might have been able to do that,but then we’d be at the far end of the airport after landing. The wind wasn’t so bad that making a downwind landing was unadvisable, but it was enough that we had to consider our height vs distance back before turning.
Great landing although in my 2-33 training I was taught 300' and above fly a regular but close in pattern to a normal upwind landing.
Have you actually ever done that? 300 feet seems pretty low to come around for a pattern of any kind (though I did do similar maneuvers during winch launch training, but that was mostly 360s overhead until you could land.)
For aerotow, I teach that the situation will depend on your climb out angle, as to whether you want to come straight back in or not.
Weak tow plane and heavy glider, is quite different than a light glider with a powerful towplane and a strong headwind. Most of the time you can just turn around and end up at your original takeoff position when you’re done. When landing downwind is looks sketchy then maneuver to land into the wind -either straight ahead (if available) or abbreviated pattern. Each soaring location and each takeoff will have its own unique factors and options that will affect that decision.
@@BillPalmer During training I did 2 or 3 at 200 ft which was a 180 and land downwind. And 1 at 300 which was a narrow (no base leg) pattern to a normal landing. For my private pilot flight test she pulled it at 200 so I did a downwind landing with a 15 knot tailwind with gusts. Pretty exciting in the 2-33
What glider port were you at?
Warner Springs, CA
What gliderport is this?
Warner Springs, CA. Sky Sailing
😂. We’re not in a rush are we? 500 ft. Easy peasy.!
Exactly, and that’s the point with this one. We took off with a pretty good wind, so you don’t want to turn back too soon if you’ll be close and high with a strong tailwind.
Demonstrates the impossible turn is possible...at least for a sailplane.
Indeed. A glider is not just an airplane without an engine. Don’t try this in a Bonanza
Consider the climb vs. return flight path angle for both