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In what aspect? I don't think Terry is THAT bad on modern, but he is definitely not top tier in my opinion.

@@n0dding I play modern so take my opinion with a grain of salt. But Mterry is so bad, Medium fireball is fine, but Medium crackshoot and shoulder charge are both trash and you cant even do that manually, his M auto combo is garbage because the second move always comes out by mistake and its -50 or something, and in general terry’s buttons are mostly pure garbage esp in modern, idk why they would let us customize our modern control instead of them always making key moves hard to use like down M punch

Also since alll of his combos rely on spamming special moves doing them in modern gives you no dmg and just overall terry’s only good thing is that he is cool af but honestly dont think anyone is going to play him a week from now and did I say his dmg is trash?

@@highlion8998 haha yea i am not really feeling terry either after playing around him. i like that he has an overhead and good lows, which not a lot of modern characters have access to, but i think i rather go play ken/akuma/ed/ryu for fun than terry if i want to play dp/fireball character

@@solarupdraft appreciate the love 🙏

V-Rival has more human-like actions instead of the regular CPU reading your inputs, but even at Master rank they still do random stuff. Maybe it just needs more training data. It's not very good right now I'd say, but usable to a degree.

@@erno6155 correct. Modern only has access to Medium and OD Power Charge (shoulder bash). The heavy version is locked behind the H auto combo (1 hit version). Lack of choices for power charge and crack shoot seem to hurt his combo route and neutrals, but I need to spend more time with him to tell.

@@로세이양구스 there are rental tickets you can get from the free battle pass each month? I don't know the update frequency on the pass itself but they always give out free rental tickets that you can use to trial the character for 2(?) hours. It's either 1 or 2 hours that you can trial the character with each ticket.

@@n0dding Thank you for your kind response. I know the ticket exists. I just want to practice without restriction.

@@로세이양구스 I feel you on that for sure. At least let the CPU control them just to let us practice something 😭

@@XxGhostDOGxX420 I play on a leverless/hitbox controller. Top: L / M / H / Assist Bottom: DI / H+SP(Super) / SP/ Parry

@@n0dding damn, i thought modern was bad on a hitbox so i brought a normal controller

@@αεεμ-ω5σ I think regardless of which control scheme you play, all controllers are viable and come down to preference and comfort. I played PC games a lot so leverless just feels natural to me.

@@n0dding i see, thx for your time brother

I guess braindead players need content too

@@faaltov yeah you must be a better player than tachikawa for sure

To do psycho crusher, you need to have enough "BACK" charge before pressing Y/Triangle/SP. Without enough back charge, you will get regular Y/Triangle/SP move instead. Psycho Crusher is Bison's/Vega's only charge move.

@@Bigpvnk bless the modern gods 🙏

Keep up the good work my friend!

I assume you meant the auto button. It does take a while to get used to but you can hold it down while you need to use it. There are a lot of situations that you need to press 2 buttons at the same time regardless who and which control scheme you play. Zangief's lariat/Ed's command dash/Throw/Parry (2 button on classic)/Any OD moves just to name a few, so you will have to get used to pressing multiple buttons.

@@n0dding What's your button layout? no matter where I put the auto button, it just feel unnatural for me? whenever I do OD I'll just do motion input + 2buttons(maybe 80% success rate) they are easier than auto button some how.

@@nguyenhoangpham5903 top row from left to right: L M H Auto Bottom row from left to right: DI SP+H(Super macro) SP Parry

@@Nerozero9 I only play on modern. Depending on the character you are playing, it can be rough due to losing buttons, but I think it's a fair trade-off for having modern shortcuts for DP (if your character has one) and Supers. Classic will also argue it's impossible to jump on modern because of that. For the characters I play and let's use Marisa as an example, losing quadriga and j.HK definitely hurt, but she has 2MP and gladius to play neutral with. On top of that, her strongest combo starter (5MP) is available through auto+M, and all her common space traps and safejumps are available as well. Making use of all those tools allow her to still be super effective in every aspect of the game. I'd say forget about what's available in classic and focus on what tools you have available. Using what you have and making the full use of them will be enough to take you to master on any character!

I think whoever fits your playstyle would be best for YOU to climb rank with. For me personally, I think Ed & Bison are the best characters right now. If I were to play a shoto seriously, it would probably be Ryu, but I think Akuma/Ken are stronger characters. I don't think Marisa is all that strong compare to other characters, but I've been playing her since launch and gladius lets you get away with a lot of things, so I want to get master with her before playing other characters. All the characters are fairly balanced with strengths and weaknesses, so I think it's just a matter of how much time and dedication you are willing to put into the character to climb rank with.

@@n0dding thanks for the answer, yeah it does seem like bison is probably overall the strongest imo but i wasnt sure how much he loses with modern controls. i play akuma classic but when i feel lazier i use modern :P i hope to get masters with her too!

@@johnsmith-fk7fw Bison isn't missing much on modern and fairly complete similar to Ed

@@n0dding awesome thanks for the reply :) i feel like i gotta just bite the bullet and purchase him :D

@@johnsmith-fk7fw you can use the rental coupon thing from the free pass to test out the character if you want before making a purchase

Elitism/Change is bad type mentality/Just want to spread hatred are basically the basis of any argument vs modern. The only constructive criticism is players have to play differently vs modern, which is true, but they just ignore the fact modern also have downsides and only focus on the benefits of 1 button stuff.

@@mightfloat9365 now time to get to master my friend💪

Keep up the grind man! We will all be master soon!

Exactly! I’m a classic player. IDGAF if someone prefers modern.

Facts, they are sitting Ducks.

I don't respect ranked modern the same way i do someone who uses classic, but i also consider it a problem if i cant best them. if they can still beat me (using modern) then i shut up and quietly determine to get better so that i can DESTROY the next modern that crosses my path.

@@daisycasey9077 modern players are sitting Ducks too. Waiting for you to jump in so you can do a lvl 3

I mean, modern is quite literally the same gameplay but less inputs lol, you sound salty over friendlier gameplay?

@@slobbernockerz i think ur right in that its great that modern makes the game more approachable for casual players. theres something about them in ranked that makes it frustrating but like i said in my previous comment if i cant beat them then the problem is on me..

@@Guestz0r welcome to the muscle crew 💪

Appreciate the love!

@@n0dding also Moder Lily is freaking good, in my personal opinion she is top 3 modern character

Appreciate the love! Recognizing mistakes and adjusting accordingly mid set is hard for sure, and that's what make tournament players and pro players so much stronger than online only players 🤣

These are my 2cents about modern Akuma - Akuma's fireballs, especially air fireball, are very good, but if you want to take him to a high level, I think you would need to learn motion input to unlock more of his kit instead of only relying on his 1 button stuff. His basic setups require you to learn light tatsu > heavy sweep, so you would need to learn how to do quartercircle back (214) in order to be effective. I think Akuma, or shotos in general imo, isn't really for the lazy players like me who heavily rely on the modern buttons, they can be played with a very simple gameplan with just fireballs and DPs, but to play at a high level, you will need to learn a bunch of motion input stuff for combos and different setup routes. His throw into command throw as meaty setup is also very strong in the corner.

Ed is definitely one of the most complete character on modern. The air game is weaker than classic due to missing j.MK but basically has everything else.

@@n0dding i think luke should have been an honorable mention he was clearly made with classic in mind with all his auto combos being levels 1-3 and he kind of breaks the mold of traditional shotos ig the tools he looses in modern are enough to make it not worth it though.

@@Sharky_0456 I think Luke is just an ok modern character. Yes, modern Luke was definitely designed to be fairly compatible with modern, but for completely new players who are just starting SF6, I think he is a poor choice. His auto combos are expensive and the damage conversions are not all that great. New players will constantly be burnt out and then the auto combos would be unusable since in Season 1 they don't convert into a different string to not use drive gauge unlike in Season 2. You can argue modern Zangief is also bad in the auto combo department, and he doesn't have all the tools Luke has, but 1 button SPD makes up for all of that imo.

@@n0dding k

Appreciate the love! There are many different LV2 routes for Ed and some require position awareness of where you are on the stage. If you go back to watch EVO VODs for momochi's replays, you can see him using ifferent routes based on the game situations and adjusted accordingly. If you don't plan to be a tournament player, I don't think it's necessary to learn all those techs though, but I would still recommend learning the desync/dream combo route if you want to put in the work for him. It's too resource efficient to not go for that route when the situation allows for it.

Big bodies and grapplers aren't for everyone. At least you gave him a try. I am sure Zangief would appreciate the attempt haha

@@ModernFightingGames I do play with a leverless controller, but I don't have a camera so I can't record footage of my hands for you. I think the most difficult part starting out is getting used to where the buttons are and assign them to a comfortable spot that you can press easily. My button layout on the left side for movement is default. The top row going from left to right: L/ M/ H/ Auto. The bottom row going from left to right: DI/ SP+H (macro for Super)/ SP/ Parry. For Ed specifically, I'd suggest macroing killrush(L+H or M+H) as well if you have more than 8 buttons on your leverless, or replace the super macro for killrush. Based on my button layout, for something simple like Auto+M>Auto+M>4SP my fingers would be hitting right pinky+right middle finger twice for Auto+M twice then use my left ring finger to press and hold 4 and right index will slide from H down to SP to get 4SP. If you are having trouble with DP motion (623), I personally press 626 to satisfy the input condition, and this is the only that works for me timing wise and inputting it correctly. There are a lot of different DP inputs and shortcuts you can do with leverless, so you need to find one that works for you. If there is a specific combo route you are having trouble with, comment with the string sequence and I can let you know how I would perform it!

@@n0dding for now it’s just the auto button that I’m having trouble with. Thanks for your help!

Appreciate the love! The video turned out way longer than expected but there are just so much to go over for Ed, so thanks for watching! Modern Cammy is definitely on my to-do list, so stay tuned!

@@n0dding Sure! I know you must be putting a lot of effort into this Modern ED video, it is really comprehensive! I actually started playing Modern ED and Modern Cammy because of your Top 4 Modern Control Characters video. Looking forward to the Modern Cammy one and thank you again!

Confirms are hard for sure, but it gets easier with practice and as you play more! Alternatively, you can change sound settings to make sound effects a bit louder and lower the other sounds, so you can also use your hearing to help you with confirms. It may or may not help depending on whether sounds help you with awareness, but doesn't hurt to try!

@@5thunders191 I currently have one on Marisa on the channel. I will make one for Ed soon, but these are the only characters I have spent a decent amount of time playing. I don't want to put out misinformation and make the videos based on my experience playing them, so it will take a while before I get to other characters.

@@n0dding thanks! Look forward to the Ed video

Correct. Ed is a DLC character.

Will continue the series once I am done with the Bison/Vega guide!

I personally think Luke's auto combos will lead to new players constantly burning themselves out and lead to a bad new player experience. Playing around with characters who aren't expensive while able to do damage allows for a better learning curve in my opinion.

@@n0dding that makes sense. His auto combos are expensive.

@@gustavoheringer that means a lot ❤️ thanks for the support!