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Cuz, I just wanted to apologise for yesterday. I was out of line. And it wasn't proper, appreciate what you're trying to do. Just keep at it. Most was some of my own bs, and shouldn't have been projected onto you. So yeah, once again sorry eh.

when you use the block weapons, do you have to press the block button timed with every attack or do you just hold it? with the ehip tyranid it kinda just looks like you're holding block? 6:25

The block weapons are trash. Period. Elite players like yourself may be able to make them work, you may even be able to do impressive shit like this, but your average player is suffer for trying to use them.

If you hold dodge while walking and spam block, you can block extremely fast thats what I do with Lictors and the whip majoris enemies

Just seems like alot of hassles gun strikes a hell of a thing to give up and get armour off parrying the little guys

around 30:00 is just crazy. Survive that is a feat on it own.

This game got so much wrong compared to other Warhammer games like Vermintide and Darktide. Such a shame.

The range Elites take extra melee damage anyway

I really wanna make the Block Dagger work but then I feel forced to pick Melta and I just hate playing with that gun.

Love this video with commentary but please don't dash attack all the time just to run 2% faster. Makes it annoying to watch just like you said. But really well done! I just figured out the timing to run solo ruthless with Block Hammer and Block Chainsword on Bulwark and Vanguard. It's time to test Lethal.

I’ve seen a lot of good solo lethal runs, but watching one done with genuinely helpful commentary like this is way more useful for improving my own gameplay. I really appreciate that you explain the ‘why’ of your actions, and when things go south take the time to breakdown what you should have done instead. Top tier brother 👍

Nice gameplay. You keep calling zoanthropes nuerothropes though 😂

I like videos like this where you explain your strategies and findings.

Still don’t see a reason to bother myself with block weapons. Because the whole melee system build around parrying/counterattack sequence in the first place. I’d rather preferred much more aggressive system when your melee swings kill small dudes and stagger majoris enemies and push them back creating space and sort of defense perimeter around you. Devs can even leave parry mechanics but make it occasional and more skill dependent with greater benefits like insta majors take down. Right now you basically forced to rely on parry or you just die. Majoris ignore your hits and just do their thing breaking your combo, sword warriors can block everything except charged hit and in general game just spam you with endless parry and heavy attacks that you can’t ignore.

I think people make huge mistake trying to play with block weapons like with fencing and then saying that it's worse. Of course it will be this way because you try to make a sword out of a hammer. First off - it performs lot better with burst range weapon (plasma, melta) that you can use simultaniously along with your melee one. So you can shoot blocking some hits in the process and then deal big damage. For example vanguard became S-tier with very high damage after 5.0 just because his melee damage has been doubled. Secondly: you have shown the list of "how block works", but you almost don't utilize the part where it says that it works 2,5 sec after the first hit. With a chainsword for example if you manage to get 3 stacks you do light-light-heavy and make a major red instantly. Especially strong on tactical because of parry scan perk. Thirdly: all melee majors and extremis can do a 3-hit combo. You block it all without attacking in a row, it takes 2 seconds or so, and kill him afterwards in 2 more (at least it works like this with hammer, chainsword and knife). You basically have a bulwark instakill perk on command on any class except heavy. You said right about that you should not be aiming just for getting 3 stacks, but trying to attack every time after a block is a bad idea either. It's in the middle. But no matter of enemy attack, you must block it all first and then hit yourself. Lots of parry games build on this particular gameplay loop. Also you can easily avoid the whip combo by just block-block-dodge-block. You will have 3 stacks and even be able to perform a gunstrike. And stats overall can put the weight on themselves: blocking hammer, knife and chainsword deal significantly more damage then other counterparts, power sword and fist became lawn mawers that are very effective against crowds. Yes, blocking weapons are not as easy to use as fencing where you can parry everything without thinking at all. Block weapons relate to more precise button presses, some tactical thinking and combining it with range weapons. But in the end they produce a lot more damage. For example when I used a blocking hammer last time I ended up with almost 37k damage and every time I used it I always had 25+k. While with fencing one my average was 16-19k and maximum was 23,5k. It's 50-60% more damage. This is anything but underperforming.

The block is all about patience, bc at 7:00 you do the same thing i caught myself doing & stealing hits in between their chain resetting the stacks. For context ( i cant prove just trust) i took on 5 sword/whip guys solo & killed all of them incredibly fast by hitting my initial stagger from first strike w a sprinting cleave (chainsword) backed up, got my 3 stack & just fired another sprinting cleave & just started spamming shoulder bash & i was killing them so fast i wouldnt stop to execute them id just keep stabbing. It can take an eternity to kill one if you play those group fights w/o optimizing the explosion

They fixed the fencing weapons

My thought pretty much summed up in a video.

What are you even talking about? Balancing?/Block stacks? Wtf is even a block stack? lmfao Saber created this ridiculous balancing act and they now have you performing it 😂 Jesus you people are dumb

Update for HotFix 5.1 which just happened this morning Adrenaline Surge at 3 Stacks now gives 2 Armor Segments after a successful strike on an enemy

I haven’t had any trouble with fencing. The only thing that seems different is all of the weapons seem to use the late timing now. Just one quick tap at the very beginning of the enemy windup. Don’t hold it, just tap the parry button.

Blocking stacks should be permanent until you attack with a max stack, add an attack buff or damage reduction buff per stack that persists for 8-10 sec after a max stack blow!

I had no idea you lost all of your block stacks if you choose to attack with only one or two stacks. That's brutal, man. Blocking weapons are so punishing to use if you mess up the timing. Blocking weapons clearly need more help to make them viable at higher difficulty levels. Maybe there's a niche build that relies on perfect dodges to get around blocking weapon's weaknesses, but I don't have the mechanical skill to make that work.

Block chainsword is about the only one that feels efficient, hammer is too alow to take advantage of it the stacks and the damage is not consisent. Devs dont understand the flaws behind their melee weapons. Hammer is slow as hell, fist is also slow and doesnt do enough damage.

Block is decent now but needs just a bit more care. Since you cannot fend off and stop enemies' chain attacks i would like to block even red attacks, and executions should not suck the adrenaline stack

I don’t get why every block weapon has a stronger base damage than the variants except power sword

Saber is obsessed with having unnecessary weapon variety. They should have removed block weapons totally

Perfect blocks should basically reflect the stagger and damage of the blocked attack to the enemies in your front 90, the damage should be split evenly. e.g. You perfect block an attack that would stagger you and deal 100 damage, there are 5 enemies in your front 90. The enemies would all suffer a minor stagger (enough to interrupt an attack animation) along with 20 damage. I want block weapons to handle swarms like the fencing weapons handle 1v1s, with balanced being literally what is says on the label. You shouldnt be able to in any reasonable time-frame, perfect block majoris or higher to death, but it should keep them at bay while handling the minoris so that a ranged or parry fighter can take out the bigguns. Having the explosion tied to the 3rd block instead of the attack after the 3rd block could also work . Thats my opinion anyway.

Saber just straight up lies about these patches. The zonethropes fighting style is still the same bull shit they have always done. I like the new block weopons, if it hadn’t messed up the fencing weopons .

For the whip tyranids I block, block, perfect dodge, gun strike. I have found this to be more consistent.

Instead of losing the damage multiplier on your first strike, it should be on a reset timer you can maintain throughout combat. So you can actually be aggressive.

I like it only problem is that we are used to having a big window time for parry so know we gotta actually time it correctly now

Let me know what you guys think of the new changes for the Block Weapons! Good? Or Nahhh?

This was supposed to originally drop 2 months ago, right after launch, not the lenses, but the DA pack and extra map.

Would love the heretic power fist skin or something similar with the fingers sharp almost like claws

Operations stills plays like dark souls.... and I hate it.

Lens colors a dev said could be done in a week back in October Dark angel cosmetics that was ready in October. A new operation they cut from release but is related to the campagin A new majoris for chaos that'll make the chaos missionsorr annoying. And.. no buffs. No balance changes. No changes to the Zoanthropes or Volkite, or block weapons. And Horde Mode releases in another year...

broken already wtf, i get half way through a level then my mouse stops working and i cant turn. works fine in every other game i have

Great video, good job.

Trackname of the tune in the background please and keep it up! You helped me with my gameplay and now i have the lethal helmet. ;)

Looking forward to the new map

Hello, what is the hour of the event for the twich drop plz ?

I highly suggest you Google the definition of a boomer. 😂

I know it’s not happening yet but I would like to see more heretic customization seeing how I’ve play way more matches as the bad guys in pvp lol

What are you guys looking forward to most in the new update?

Not having friends to play with and play with randoms that join with low leveled classes and just loot-goblin all stims and still die :D

for me my weakness is my habbit to do gun strike after parry or dodge, alot of times it caused me to loose way too much health or get knocked down, now im trying to control when i do the gunstrike

Learn to melee and the little guys are free armor

😲 my face when I searched for a game and found someone I know. lol

Skill issue.