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@SciborLipinski Thank you, technically not up to current action camera standards, but it was an exceptional day with two fantastically memorable dives. Seals are my favourite marine critter!

@@mikeward736 maybe technically not up to modern standards but I really like how you create that movie underwater. Fantastic job. Once again thanks for your job. Greetings from Poland.

@@mikeward736 BTW what diving camera setup do you recommend? Best quality for bucks?

And what is a minimum of light power under water in Scotland in lumens? Thanks

@SciborLipinski Thank you again! Camera wise, depends where you dive. For UK waters I like Go Pro, for blue water the Osmo Action 4. Bear in mind I now class myself as a diver who takes video, not a videographer who dives.

@Alpago45 I think the diving mode is only activated underwater when you use the Action 4 without a housing, so just use it in a housing.

@@mikeward736 Due to high water pressure, shutter/record button is disabled automatically. Press Quick Switch button to start or stop recording diving mode How can I disable it?

@@Alpago45 Use a housing.

@danielvilliers612 I think it's the interaction between the ultra-wide and the anti-shake, it's the one area where I think my old GoPro8 did better

@@mikeward736 Perhaps it would be better to go to a less wider mode.

@danielvilliers612 Agreed, using the wide setting and Rocksteady Plus seems to work best.I'll put another video up in a few weeks with a review of the settings I like best.

@@akumaz78 👍

I don't like the way Rocksteady works with super wide, or the edge sharpness it delivers, but especially for wrecks I think super wide has a place

@KevMac56 A pair of Archon D11V I got from ebay years ago. They work very well, they aren't quite wide enough beam and lack a bit of oomph for shallow blue-water but are small, lightweight and very reliable.

@71sagittarius The way I think of it is that if you're a diver who shoots video, it's as good as it gets, but if you're a videographer who dives, you'll need to spend lots more

@@mikeward736 Correct exactly what I have said. It is very good, probably the best camera for its class and money range. When I'm saying you... means everyone who wants better footage. This is in 2024. In few years time who knows...

@@71sagittarius 👍

@@seangreyvenstein6819 Thank you!

@71sagittarius That afternoon was a torture test and it still turned in decent results, well, except for the colour balance issue....

@@mikeward736 Very well done 👍

@sueferguson777 VSDC, the colour balance tools are straightforward and it runs well on my modest laptop

@@stephenMc-b1j 👍

@Ecovictorian Thanks. There's a small wreck on the opposite side of the Red Sea at Ashrafi that has narrow-gauge track, but as far as I know Thistlegorm's Staniers are unique.

Glad you enjoyed it, thank you!

@@mikeward736 Yes it was well worth the watch & your welcome. 😀

@@photoventureselp Glad you found it useful!

It's the water that reduces colour and contrast, and depends on depth, visibility and water colour. UK waters are greenish, tropical water tends to be blue. Different cameras deal with these issues differently, I'm actually quite impressed with the Action 4, it's surprisingly good, but you have given me a topic for a future video, thanks!

@@mikeward736The footage is good you are right, but if you see it after the colour correction its very visible. Thats great :D thanks.

@Paull1337 Agreed, post-processing is important. One of the strengths of the Action 4 is it provides a good starting point for post, for an action camera

I tend to agree, for a few reasons, and for general use

@NitrosHELI Thank you, though I honestly think I have a lot to learn! Software is VSDC, which runs well on my less than top spec laptop. Workflow depends on the individual video, the trip videos come out of whatever footage I shoot, the plan videos were much more structured around the story. I'll have a think about a video to answer the query properly.

@secretsofthelake1966 Yup. Depends on what you're shooting if it matters, of course...

@@mikeward736 I heard that AOI will release soon an adapter to DJI Osmo Action cameras to attach the UWL-03 wide angle wet lens. I use it on GoPro12 and it corrects the corner problems and brings the closest focus to 4 cm.

They are all the same in the corners, I only go as wide as "Wide" setting.

I opt for wide dewarp. I find it better

I think my gopro 10 was better at the edges underwater. Shame as the out of camera standard 10 bit colour is quite good.

@markdayment3917 Thanks for the comment!

@jarotwibowo1743 Everything labelled camera footage is unedited, except for trimming the shots, where the footage is post-processed it's labelled as edited. I use VSDC, I like the colour balancing tools, and as it's a very manual piece of software it makes me think about what I'm doing.

@@mikeward736 Thanks a lot Mike...

@@deepdowndrey Thanks!

@Oholisfliesandfishing I'm not sure there is a diving mode?

My bad. I probably saw some other camera having color options for diving. ​@@mikeward736

I deliberately left the camera defaults as they were, no limiting the ISO, no changes to noise reduction, still shooting in 1080 at 50fps. Like you, I was very impressed with the twilight shots, and also with the way the camera handled the shot of my buddy Neil swimming into a wreck in total darkness. I expected that to be useless mush!

If you look at the colour of the hull bottom in the two shots they're clearly different. It's not a big deal, they could be balanced to look the same, but two shots taken seconds apart at the same depth and of the same subject are different.

I haven't tried filters yet

@@mikeward736 some have found filters confuse the osmo 4 a bit

Pleased you like it

Thanks

Could be, but there are no holes in the flanges either end of them, so it doesn't seem like they mounted to anything

@@mikeward736 Yeah, the angle doesn't allow for a lot of information. The smaller end definitely has a flange, the growth would have long ago covered any holes. The small rise at the middle of the large end looks like a PTO. Having said that, if sat upright on the small end, it also looks like a ships toilet; with the rise being the fitting for the flush water pipe.

@billsmith6884 Thanks for that, my dive-buddy Neil is an ex-motor vehicle mechanic who has worked with some exotic machinery and he's the one who pointed out the lack of bolt- holes. Next time out I'll spend some more time with these and see if I can get some measurements and close-ups. FYI there are over sixty of them, which suggests they were needed in numbers, and there seem to be two variants, differing in the end construction.

That must have been an awful experience

@@mikeward736 I was in a helicopter hovering over it. Streams of fuel, luggage and other evidence of her humanity floated about. The ship lay on her side w attached lifeboats and the hull clearly visable. Sad.

@@tdplk2987 Just awful

I think you're quite right that there are trade-offs with the Action 4 (And similar cameras) but it's basically a good camera, better in blue water than green. I'll be posting a new video shortly, and then a 'recommended settings' video in a little while, I'm still finalising those.

It's a fabulous wreck, take your time and enjoy!

You're welcome! Great to have met you.

Cheers Neil! Yep, Salem Express at night is quite something.

Thank you for that. No Fiat cars on Thistlegorm, I'm afraid, they're on the wreck of the Umbria down in Sudan, but you may well have seen a picture captioned 'Fiats on Thistlegorm' because there's a lot of poor information on the Red Sea shipwrecks out there.

@@mikeward736 ah ok, thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction Mike ! Many 🍻🍻 to you sir !!

No problem. The reason I got involved with Red Sea wrecks in the first place was the huge amount of misinformation about them

Hi, I'd use the default auto colour balance and ISO range, the ultra-wide lens setting and Rocksteady boost, then try not to pan much and shoot a lot of footage so you've plenty to edit from.

If only there was a manual white balance.......

@@mikeward736 you can set from 2000 K to 10000 Kelvin? Not sure how much more manual do you need it to be

True manual white balance means setting the colour balance manually on the fly using a slate, pre-setting white balance isn't the same thing.

Warm, clear water, great wrecks and fantastic marine life. Wow indeed!

Thank you!

I've more starboard boiler footage, and video of what at first sight looked like the starboard cab, but not so sure now, the plate it's made from looks much too thick and the shape doesn't seem quite right even allowing for the blast. Oddly, I've less port boiler footage, despite it being easier to visit, and nothing cab-like at all from that side. I'm intending to re-do the 8F video this year, so will try for more footage of both boilers and search for the cabs, current permitting!

@@mikeward736 thanks so much for the reply Mike, fingers crossed for a forgiving current in that case! I saw a recent video that appears to show the open smokebox door of the starboard locomotive having finally fallen off, so a few changes to document for sure. Will keep tuned to the channel as always! All the best

@46245RailVideos Thanks for that, and yes, things do change over time. I'll get an update on the 8Fs this year, fingers crossed.

I think 2024 is booked up, sorry, but be great to see you in 25!

Thanks, she's spectacular!

Cheers, Neil!

Thanks, Neil. A sombre dive, but a fascinating wreck.

It'll be good to see you again! Warm sun and clear water!

She's an awesome dive, and be good to catch up with you

Yup. And manual white balance would really be something different from other action cameras. Osmo? GoPro?