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"proper job"....I am sure this is the making of a small fortune!.....can you make a small fortune in livestock farming....please let me know i have been trying for 20 years!........joking aside...nice looking cute woollies......once you have a few more...ram + ewe = success.....maybe?....you will be able to sell the fleeces above market price to local spinners to knit a rare Leicester Longwool jumper......and sell some woolie chops.....whole hogg.....for a good price. these rarer "rustic" breeds really taste excellent.....and many folks (including me) are happy to pay for such good tasting lamb / hogget......the future of British livestock farming.....quality and provenance.....direct selling. :)

Some of the village shots towards the end looked like Lavenham..?

Another great video thanks. Now at the risk of being labeled a blood and soil ideologue, or maybe just a romantic, why write of the scalability of a system such as Ian Tolhurst's just because it requires really intensive management and is very labour intensive! Granted the produce may be out of the purchasing power of the 18% or so food poor you have quoted previously (haven't got the exact figure in my head sorry), but lets say the rest of the population could afford the produce if they chose, which is a big if! Ian is creating jobs and adding value (perceived or otherwise), in any other industry that is seen as a positive, why is this seen as a bad thing in farming? The really intensive management is also creating a very human management role completely unique to the geography of Ians farm, which I would argue quite a few humans would find a very fulfilling role. It's seems that all of these things can be quite easily overlooked if ones mantra is cheap food. Loving your thought provoking videos keep them coming.

They bought the means of production, so how are they not capitalists?

The agricultural revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race 😝

This is a real gem

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Lloyds bank was established by drovers it was then the black ox bank here in Wales we have a drovers path run next to our farm it was a old inn set in 6 acres which is still there today although the inn is long derelict but not too bad as the local pub is only a mile away😂

Slug pellets = toxic if inhaled or ingested and an environmental poison .but your ok cause you don’t read the label .?

Uk dependency on food from Ireland ,

I love your videos. These arguments are nuanced and well-considered, and you present them well. I look forward to hearing more. I'd be very interested to hear your take on the economic dangers of reliance on inputs which are not locally produced and possible workarounds. (Ideally, I'd love to see a miniaturized version of the haber-bosch process that can run on the scale of a single farm so that modern farms can vertically integrate more effectively). Would electric tractors be possible, desirable, or economically viable based on your experience (vertically integrating fuel via solar). What is your opinion on AI and automation in farming generally? Is it a positive good in your view for people to farm, irrespective of the output? (would it be a sad thing if all farming was automated?) What is the subjective core of your desire to farm? Is it an end in itself or purely a means to some other end? If it is an end in itself to some degree, what constraints does that place on what you will or will not do in your farming practices? What are your thoughts on the ideas of Henry George?

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You know you’re an interesting channel because your view count never exceeds your subscriber count. It’s like everybody who watches feels compelled to subscribe. I think everybody was ready for political-economy approach to the subject of agriculture. Being a Marxist from Arkansas, I naturally became hooked.

Umberto Eco should not be cited a source on Fascism as his work exist just to justify slandering anything that's not perfectly marxist aligned as "fascism."

Want to have my own little agriculture farm one day, good video! One note, under a capitalistic system, the farmer who owns their means of production and works the land would be petty bourgeoisie. If that farmer has one worker on a wage, they would be taking that workers surplus value hence not making it a socialist relation. Under this system, unfortunately, competitiveness is forced, and profits are made to be more important because they are linked to ur living conditions.

8:25 Lady Balfour's father, the earl of Lytton, failed to provide famine relief in Madras Presidency in 1876 which lead to the death of almost 10 million people because he believed in malthusian as well as free market policies. Guess it runs in the family.

Restorative no-dig agriculture is ridiculously food-efficient, especially in permacuture, but requires gardeners and doesn't use tractors. This threatens the power of interests using our diets as leverage to extort labor.

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Glad you apreciated my comment. I apreciate your channel a lot. Tanks.

farmers can turn themselves into capitalists when they lobby government to increase vulnerable surplus labor as one might see with the use of undocumented migrants.

Most of these don't prove whatsoever that farmers aren't capitalists. They only distinguish farmer production from factory production. The UK produces little in factories. Is the UK no longer capitalist?

I mean, Lord Lymington was at least quite consistent and definitely a moral superior to the "too many people" loons running around. Thankful most of these people are boomers soon to fulfil their own beliefs. Absolutely excellent coverage of history, agri and aristo as well ❤️❤️❤️

Poundbury! Oh hot topic. Is it a Duchy Project Charles v. William? I remember video explaining that Charles wanted to ensure Poundbury had green energy closer by, to avoid the need to bring green energy all the way from Scotland. The working Windbarrow Farm was selected on which to build the plant. Planning permission was granted (was it on green belt?) And JV Energen was set up. The videos were all marked with the Duchy logo. I presumed it was a Duchy Company. When Charles became king, he passed the Duchy of Cornwall to his son William, and JV Energen was also passed to William, which would sort of confirm JV Energen was a Duchy company, wouldn't it? William sold JV Energen to a French company, Feb 2024. What are we to take from this? William is supposedly a conformist WEF Net Zero advocate, so why would he sell Poundbury's green energy to a French company? Is William disposing of other Duchy of Cornwall property in Poundbury or assets that were supposedly 'for the benefit' of the people of Poundbury? Why was such a significant sale not mentioned in the press? Does anyone if JV ENERGEN was built with EU grants or whether the period the grants would have to be repaid was expired? What price was paid by the French company? Did Poundbury benefit from the sale? What did William receive and will he declare this for tax purposes? Did Charles agree to the sale? Was Poundbury asked/consent to their energy company being sold? Will the site be redeveloped for alternative electrical or other energy production ie solar farm on Poundburys doorstep? There are many more questions, but l've said enough!

Charles first Royal Assent was the Precision Breeding Bill. This allows genetic interference in animals and plants. It also allows labelling to be nonspecific, so there is no longer a GMO warning. How does that fit with your statement about the King and his belief in Organics please?

"Cut back the shade from the dark soil with your knife" What is that referring to?

I’m confused by your take on organic farming and the lopsided idea that it is somehow more aligned with fascists .If you take a look at organic farming in countries like Egypt ,India Israel or Cuba your claims start looking a bit shaky..or even if you start looking into communities around organic farms in England and Germany you will un earth plenty of socialist lefty multicultural types . Historically all farming was organic . Taking that a large amount of the innovations for scientific / chemical farming appears to have come from companies run by national socialists in Germany yet just because those same companies supply your chemicals today it’ doesn’t make modern farming a product of the nazis or does it . May be if you add a drive towards genetic selection ,biosecurity ,fertility management ,uniformity and factory farming .the accusation seems more plausible .?.

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Keep farmer's slaves to the powerful ,and in debt

Great review! I’m thrilled you chose to highlight one of my comments for it. I look forward to your videos every Sunday from the US.

TH-cam is 95% male, so it is not your channel or your content.

A very entertaining and informative channel you have.. I've watched a good number of your previous.. keep it up..

Go to Labour with your plaints and complaints & plans of how to do better with your fellow farmers or/and your You Tube followers.

!950 my father had a market garden--after gardening for some 'Great Houses'. We had chickens running around in the great field all day in coops by night. As a child I'd collect their eggs at morning light. 1951 they were all moved into a large barn where they appeared to be in a state of shock--Cossington outside Brdgewater. The taste of chicken was fine in that early period. Dad killed them so fast they knew not a thing. After this money & family pushed Dad back on the Railways. Then deep freezing meats took the taste completly away. The factory farming of chicken & pigs is now a horror & extremelly dangerous to us. See 'The Coming Plague' by Laurie Garrett published 1994 if you doubt. The taste of meat is so foul now. An 82 male I've not eaten meat for thirty years. Fish? Sardines as fish stocks are going fast and sardines being so small are easier to bring back. See James Hansen on the Climate Wrecking ball & what to do. Also James Lovelock I corresponded with many years ago. I met & became friends with Robert Graves in 67. He was writing about organic growing back then. I met him in his garden digging out potatoes--he spent lots of time there & he was an excellent gardener.

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The farmer political distinction might be rural communitarian values (hence why farmers like tradition and social-minded economics) versus urban, burgher liberalism (economic and social) In one of the older vids, you mention how farmers are very practically conservative - wanting to ensure reforms to their methods won't muck things up compared to ways that already work sufficiently - maybe amongst farmers this cautious mindset is applied to wider society much as they would their own fields?

I think the whole "farmers vote weirdly, considering the differences in values" is mostly due to the professional politicians class being incredibly urban and middle class

I remember the death of this way of life when i was a kid the old man thatching ricks and horse and hand hoeing mangolds and ridging taters stooking corn etc. Grandad and gran pumping water out of a well and boiling a kettle to wash, or the old copper with a fire under it. No electric light tilley lamps and gas lights in the the house run off a bottle dont touch the mantle, I remember being shouted, the membrane you lit on the lamps. Genuine folk you could trust with any thing there was always a few rogues "characters". That was in the 1950 of course we has progressed since then, I wonder have we? Now we take it all for granted. Funny old world 😂😂

Thanks for all the videos I've enjoyed them immensely please keep up the good work 👍

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My beekeeping tutor said "beekeeping is part of farming" and I think that was the case many years ago. Today many of the farmers I come across are I find more interested in large tractors and sheep than keeping bees. So now we have a large community of urban beekeepers who, I think, care little for farming. There is a disconnect between many of the skills that the countryman of the past practised and today when only few will have the skill and knowledge to weave a basket from willow. The days when every town had its own blacksmith and horses pulled the plough have gone. Life wasn't any easier for the farm worker then than it is now. But now workers have different problems - problems of isolation still persist as farming can be lonely life - but trudging behind a horse and plough is no longer a problem. And who knows driving the tractor may itself get replaced by technology sooner or later. Having your village half occupied for half the year - townies don't like mud and muck - but filled in the summer with those who earnings make a farm labourers wage look like small change is a massive problem. Organic farming? It all was in the past. But now I think it is a little like skep or basket making - it's reserved only for the specialist few. However, on a smaller scale I have kept my allotment free from pesticides, herbicides, and fungicides for over 40 years. I have always seen it as an 'organic' allotment driven by importing muck and making compost. Of course if my 'organic' cauliflower fail to crop I can go to Tesco and buy a cauliflower at the same time as I buy my bananas and pineapples (in my case I generally go to the co-op). Or I can go to the greengrocers and see if they have an organic cauliflower. Or go to the shop next door and buy a box of dates instead from Palestine, or Algeria. Your videos are an education to my me as I knew nothing of the origins of the organic movement. I have been aware of the soil association but of course never needed their accreditation. My allotment is my farm workers cottage garden in the city. - although as I'm getting older and slower it is gradually re-wilding itself. I see it now as mini food forest with the grapes growing through the apple trees competing with the black berries that I enjoy 'chopping and dropping'. Should rate payers subsidise my allotment? No. Should farmers be subsidised by my me? No. Should politicians be dolling out money to farmers? No. Should the run off from farmers land pollute the rivers? No Should farmers see that overgrown ditches hold more water than cleaned out ditches? (Water that could add to floods downstream).Yes. Should the hills be covered in grass and heather and not trees? No. Should badgers be culled? No Should cows be kept better so that they don't cross infect each other? Yes. Should bulls be tested before moving from one herd to the next? Yes. Am going vegan? No. Am I vegetarian? No Do I eat less meat now than in the past? Yes. Am I eating the rainforest and the habitat of wild animals? Yes. Do I avoid eating products with palm oil in them? With difficulty. Modern farming in the modern world is just one piece of a complicated jigsaw of competing interests. Keep up the good work!

Interestingly I remember a chat with the soil association and mentioned that I’d read a book from 1 of the founding members of the soil association. Remember that the person I was chatting to wanted to change the subject quite quickly which I think says a lot about what they know of the beginnings of the association.

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I've not seen Clarkson's Farm. I watch your channel to get a view of the same issues but from a normal person position.

Enjoyed that, although it did get a bit weird towards the end 🤪I was also quite surprised you identify as an enviromentlist not a label I’d have used after watching your videos or are you looking to redefine the term ?

Pronunciation of consume: I have family scattered about Northern England and I say it "conshume"

The enigma you refer to in the response to WillDavies 37's post is simply explained. Before the rise of neo-liberal (sic) ideas in the 1970s and 1980s, a lot of state intervention was considered mainstream political thinking, not socialism. Look at many of the policies of Harold MacMillan and Edward Heath. They have only been labelled "socialist" since. It goes back to my post about the old "left" and "right" labels having little meaning these days. Indeed if you go back before this there was often frightening parallels between communists and extreme right wingers, and now two of the most expansionist nationalist states have regimes (once express, one implicit) with roots in communism, Russia and China. The rural tendency to vote Conservative reflects more the urban and trade union background of the Labour party ("urban" now more "metropolitan" than simply large cities), and socially conservative rural areas, who tend to vote Lib Dem or Reform depending on their outlook when they feel let down by the Conservatives (as in 1997 and 2024).

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Have you ever heard of Shane Simonsen? He's got a book or called Taming the Apocalypse. It's a fascinating perspective. He makes the point that a lot of the crops we grow are not really suited to the environment in which we grow them and we should be looking at domesticating local plants that are adapted to our local environment. We live in a time when we have access to a vast amount of plants from all over the world and plants that would never come into contract with other normally can hybridize and create something new. He's a fascinating character and his ideas are very interesting. I think he's a Bio-chemist by training.

You say ‘… I guess’ where it has always been ‘… I suppose’ in the King’s. I think we should fight against the Americanisation of the English language; stop saying ‘can I get an Americano?’ and revert to ‘could I have a cup of tea?’. Stop describing something as cool, choosing instead to say that it’s spiffing.