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Glad you are back and we have several more videos coming out! Cheers, Greg Hawk

You're welcome, and be sure to check out our other videos! Cheers, Greg Hawk

It was a story told to me by the old guy I mentioned in my book. This was about 1992 when he told me the story along with several others. He had an old cardboard box with about ten old topo maps in it and a treasure story for each one. This was one of those stories. I couldn't say how real it is but I searched for several months up on the Rim looking for it and thought I had found the place the Mexican hunters stayed overnight but where the barrels of coins were supposed to be against the rock ledge there was nothing there. Had someone beat me to them or was I in the wrong place? There is another supposedly true story of a wagon being escorted by the army along the Mogollon Rim (Crooks Trail) and the wagon team fot spooked and took off and the wagon went over the edge and down about 200' over a sheer cliff. The wagon carried the belongings of a lady and the army had also loaded rifles into the wagon so that probably still lies somewhere off the sheer cliffs along Crooks Trail. This was pointed out to me that it was written up in a book abou the history of Crooks Trail. Good Luck, Greg Hawk

@@randomtangents5204 Their are many springs you would pass just getting to the rim road in 1935, certain roads didn't exist then. To drive by so many springs just doesn't make sense to me. Their are hundreds of rock overhangs. I first thought there was an old trail going through the area at that time and now I see there wasn't. The old Chaves Pass trail went a different way. So the two confederates where wondering looking for a way out which makes it a lot harder to figure out.

@@michaelgreenup4777 I searched Long Canyon over six times from top to bottom as that was where the old guy that told me the story said he thought it was. He thougth the soldiers drove the wagon up the canyon but I believe they were on top trying to find their way out possilby down to Crooks Trail along the rim. I went up and down Miller Canyon and then figured they could have ventured further east and ended up off Battleground Ridge at Crackerbox Canyon where I found the rock overhang with old campfire charcoal under it. Twenty feet away was a rock wall protrusion that I figured was where they buried the kegs but either I was in the wrong spot or someone beat me to them. I believe the soldiers buried the kegs from up top and then ran the wagon over the edge down into the canyon and tried to escape by just riding the horses out. They didn't make it as the Indians tracked them down in the end is my belief. It is some beautiful country to hike in and I have seen a lot of elk at certain times of the year up there. Cheers, Greg Hawk

If you have been into treasure hunting for any length of time you know that most of the stories in the magazines are fictional or hanging on a thread of truth and embellsihed upon. One should always research newspapers for an event such as a stagecoach robbery etc. At the time that this supposedly happened the Prescott Miner and the Yuma Arizona Sentinel would have had this as front page news but neither newspaper even mentioned it. Good Research destroys the fiction and you can go on to find something that is documented with hard facts. Thanks for the comment! Cheers, Greg Hawk

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I would imagine with that amount of gold in the strongbox the news would have spread quickly. The posse was riding blind as they didn't know exactly where the stagecoach robbery took place is the way I look at it. Interesting though! Cheers, Greg Hawk

Those are some interesting points and Jack told me that once they put the railroad in that a lot of the washes filled up with sand and gravel. That would wipe out part of the stagecoach trail for certain and possibly where they hid the strongbox. It may be under ten feet of material now. Thanks for the comments and I will pass them on to Jack. Cheers, Greg Hawk

@randomtangents5204 I don't believe it would be under a railroad bed.I believe it's still there but because the road has changed you just have to find the original sight of the old road. Watch for slides. Possibly it has even moved. What I don't get is that it took 4 men to get it off the stagecoach and 2 could barely move it. They surely wouldn't have taken it to far,unless, they dragged it with their horses. That's another possibility. In which case it could be further off the road. Like up over a hill. Maybe that's why no one has found it. They're concentrating on the road and not looking over the hill. And what better place. One man on the hill to keep watch,while another caves off the side of a wash. Simply brush out the marks and be on your way. Tell your friend that I found a small treasure years ago. 54 silver dollars and 4 double eagles. 18 ounces of Placer gold out in Nevada. Working on a big one outside of Lake Havasu City, Arizona now. Old,old one. Goodluck. Gold is where you find it.

Thanks, we have more videos coming out soon, keep tuned. Cheers, Greg

Go to Google Earth and plug in 33.229890 N, and 111.209463 W This is the location of the kilns. Take a picture or snip of the route coming off hwy. 60 back to the turn-off going up the wash. The drive up the wash is about 1.7 miles and there used to be a sign there point out Reymert but I haven't been there for a couple of years. Good Luck! Greg Hawk

Glad you enjoyed it! We try hard to bring some of the history of Arizona to each video we produce. More to come! Cheers, Greg Hawk

Thank You, Glad you enjoyed it. Stay tuned as we have several good ones coming up over the next couple of months. Cheers, Greg Hawk

Thank you very much and you are right it takes a lot to put together a good tresasure story. I have been out of state working the last couple of years so am getting back into the swing of things. I hope to have several real good ones posted by the end of the year. I will check out your stories and thanks again. Cheers, Greg Hawk

@@randomtangents5204 Alright Greg looking forward to your vids they're awesome

Thanks! Greg Hawk

The robbery took place at the stagecoach station. The hard part is locating where it was at that time. I always thought it was close to the spring and then I talked to some other treasure hunters, and they thought it was a short distance north of the spring. I think if you follow the old gravel track as it comes from the east and runs alongside the meadow and it starts to turn south across the end I would venture north for a while and check out that area. Hope this helps. Cheers, Greg Hawk

Sir, I gave no coordinates on this video and only do so on certain ones. My thoughts have always been to include history into my videos, show the area I am talking about on a large topo map, and give some directions to get there. Once in a while I give some coordinates to exact spots where I am. This is all done to see if I can get the viewer involved enough to go out and explore and to experience the outdoors and the history of the area. Often times at the end of the video I mention things to see or do in the area if one goes. As far as the "State Trust Land Permit", I guess you haven't checked online in a while. The permit costs $15 for a single person or $20 for a family plus $1 processing fee if you do it online. This aggravates me for a couple of reasons. Twenty-five years ago, there were no fences, gates or signs telling you that it was state land or anything else for that matter. It was open range and when I go back now, I see gates and signs saying I need a permit, which I caved in and bought one, but what does the state do to enhance these areas? They surely don't do anything with the roads. They put up their fences and gates and collect another "Use Tax" for doing nothing. Have a Nice Day!

Thanks Michael for the information on your dowsing book. Sounds interesting, so do you go out and use your skills for people or do map dowsing? Cheers, Greg Hawk

Always Fun, at least most of the time. Cheers, Greg Hawk

Glad you enjoy them, and I am getting ready to put several more up over the next couple of months. Cheers, Greg Hawk

Glad you enjoyed it! We have been busy the last couple of years but now have several really interesting treasure videos coming out in the next couple of months so stay tuned. Cheers, Greg Hawk

At the time he traded the $20 gold piece in for the bottle of whiskey, gold was illegal to own. I imagine the guy who sold him the whiskey kept it quiet and who knows what he did with it. There was probably a black market going on trading gold for other things. As I understand it the US government gave people $20/ounce for their gold when they turned it in and then passed into law the gold standard which said gold would back the US dollar at $35/oz. People who had turned in their gold to the government lost $15/oz and the government won. This stayed that way until President Nixon repealed the law in, I believe 1971. From there the US dollar was never backed by gold anymore and you can see how worthless our fiat currency has become. Gold is now hovering around $2,400/oz. Hang on to your gold! Cheers, Greg Hawk

@@randomtangents5204 yeah but thats all over, those pieces would be out in collections as others are you see not just myth and legends

Sometimes it is the thrill of the chase that makes it exciting and sharing that, I hope, gets others excited enough to go out and experience nature and the rugged terrain that covers much of Arizona and surrounding states. I will be adding another three+ videos over the next few months so stay tuned as exciting things are going to happen. Cheers, Greg Hawk

What rock are we talking about? Cheers, Greg Hawk

Yes, buzz worms are always a worry! Cheers, Greg Hawk

I haven't heard that story but would be interesting to read. Thanks for the information. Cheers, Greg Hawk

@@randomtangents5204 there is a blue cover paper back in the library that tells a lot about a very similar topic and a slip rock in square rock in side is 6'/8'2 full boxes with locks 3 skeleton 3 rifles and half empty box silver and gold coins I found a bandet camp in the organ mtns..but I chickened out I like my freedom

Don't know if I will be up that way anytime soon but I can tell you this. As you come into the Pine Springs flat the road "Y's" and you go to the left and then turn back to the right where there looks to be a lot of old camp sites overlooking the meadow. From the edge of these trees we sounded a strip about 200' wide and clear out to what looked to be the spring setting in the middle of the meadow. We didn't pick up anything. Previously I used my metal detector and found old used cartridges dating back to that time period right around the tree that sets about 50' out from the stump that is at the edge of the trees where you park. Other treasure hunters have contacted me and believed the old stage station was not right at the spring but about a 1/4 to 1/2 mile away. I have not heard of anyone yet that has located the lost strong box with the gold. Good Hunting and if you have any more questions I would more than happy to tell you what I know. Good Hunting!

@@randomtangents5204 well when I have time to get back out there if you have time..I will contact you if you can point out what you know I don't know if I will be alone but I will share what I find. Between me and you and or another person...I have another pine spring location in Guadalupa Park were they say that the 3 boxes were taken in 2 different times but I found a foundation that measures the same as the depo station it is my opinion the original location and the other was made for convenience for the traveler's. I have a ground prob so to speak what you said makes since water is not the best place to have animals or buildings because of Flys and bugs high and dry would be my guess because visual and wind to blow away the flies I think as long as the people from Prescott didn't find it then I think it could be found..but I think it could take a few weeks to rule out the areas of interest. Do you know anything about most land mark in the area and north west of the area

Thanks for the information as I didn't know about the cattle guard being put there in 1985. I first started going to this area when you could drive all the way through to the mine itself and look down into the deep workings where they mined the silver. Things change over time and as you said keep your eyes open while back there. Cheers, Greg Hawk

Hello Steve, thanks for reaching out. You can order my book online through my website at www.desertroamerpress.com Enjoy the website and if you subscribe we notify all subscribers each time we post a new video or something that we think you might be interested in on our blog. Cheers, Greg Hawk

I agree, after researching more about Geronimo and his areas of travel, it is evident he never came this far north. The Indian face is still in the clliff face and their was an entry to the caverns below the nose of the face. There is a great overlook above this area and on top their are stacks of rocks which could have been a structure or shelter at one time. It was a great place to hide out with plenty of fresh water and watercress growing in the stream. Spanish suit of armor were supposedly found up this canyon so who knows the real tale. Thanks, Greg Hawk

Not a rattlesnake den as we crawled back in there about 150 feet. It is a sandstone cavern mostly and the water that filters through it in the lower part ends up in the creek as spring water which is pretty tasty. Didn't see any buzz worms up there. Cheers, Greg Hawk

Thank You! Jim and I do a lot of research on the stories and try to interweave history into the treasure story to make it interesting. Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers, Greg Hawk

One never knows what one may find. It is a large area to search but there is not a lot of trash that you have to worry about picking up with your metal detector. Good Hunting! Cheers, Greg Hawk

They were supposedly nail kegs which would weigh 100 lbs. Being filled with gold coins would definitely be a lot more weight. I would say, if there is any turth to the story, that the kegs weren't filled to the brim. Still a lot of gold though. Cheers, Greg Hawk

I am afraid I am not aware of this theory and how it might pertain to the story. Maybe something to learn here. Thanks, Greg Hawk

Can't say what the big mound in the background is. I didn't photo shop or manipulate anything though, it was just different times of the year and from a slightly different angle. Cheers, Greg Hawk

@randomtangents5204 oh no I didn't mean by you, I mean it looked like man did something like maybe a marker

@@autotek7930 Will have to go back and have another look. Thanks!

Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers, Greg Hawk

Good Luck! Cheers, Greg Hawk

Enjoy the area as you can find a place to camp away from the maddening crowd where it is peaceful. Enjoy! Cheers, Greg Hawk

My Pleasure, glad you enjoyed it. Cheers, Greg Hawk

Sorry I am a little late replying. I get custom maps made at MyTopo.com. They have changed their format and the last time I told them over the phone what I wanted and they put it together. They may be back doing it digitally now, don't know. Good Luck! Cheers, Greg Hawk

The area at Pine Springs has been searched many times and I don't know of any one that has found it. I found some old spent rifle cartridges dating back to the era in close proximity to Pine Springs. It is a good place to camp and get away so enjoy it if you go. Cheers, Greg Hawk

They remembered to bring picks and shovels but forgot the pack animals to haul the gold off with... Must have been the whisky. 😁@@randomtangents5204

Thanks, I will have to research that robbery. This story was told to me by an old guy in Strawberry, AZ and I searched hi and low for it. Beautiful country! Cheers, Greg Hawk