London Underground-A Stock & 59 Tube Stock on Metropolitan & Jubilee Lines 1986
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- See the A60 & 59 Stock's side by side on the Met & Jubilee Lines in February 1986. As LT were re-laying a junction at Neasden the Jubilee was worked in 2 parts, Stanmore-Wembley Park and Charing Cross-Willesden Green with the Met stopping at Neasden & Willesden to connect both halves. The southern end of the Jubilee was cut off so 59 Stock stabled at London Road Depot was used (the Bakerloo & Jubilee lines were worked as one with crews from all 4 depot's working both lines) as well as one 72 Stock stabled at Charing Cross. At this time the A60's were un-refurbished and a few still hadn't been converted to OPO and the Guards were still using the gangway in the rear car. If you liked the video please subscribe to my channel, there are lots more transport & quirky vids to upload!
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1:38 ahhh the good old days of the angry London commuter 😂😂😂
The joys of which traincrews had to put up with on a daily basis sadly!
Yeah, how little uts with this, huh! 😒
Didn’t knew the mighty old 59 stock ran on weekends on the Jubilee line in 1986!
I know you hear this a lot nowadays, but I really wish to be born earlier to witness trains of that era! I just found them more charming and unique than newer trains like the S stock! Also, much of the music I listen to is from that time (Smiths, The Cure, Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Chameleons, etc.).
I can’t make time go backwards, so all I have left to do is to thank Soi for sharing his memories with us, the younger generations! Thank you! I am a proudly subscriber of you!
Thank you....I'm pleased you find my uploads of interest. The 59s only ran on the Jubilee for three Sundays in early 1986 due to engineering works between Willesden and Neasden, the Jubilee line stock were the wrong side of the works stabled in Neasden and Stanmore.....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Thanks for the info and the upload! Keep up the hard work!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Learn something new every day.
It’s nice to see the 1959 stock and A stock run next to each other, because they were both constructed around the same era.
Yes, they hadn't run side by side with one another since the 59s left the Piccadilly Line when they ran to Uxbridge in the peaks......
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus that’s a bit before my time I’m afraid, my old man remembers the 59 stock on the Piccadilly because he went to st Benedict’s School in Ealing in the late 70s and got the Piccadilly from Rayners Lane as they were being replaced by the 73 stock.
@@louisducasse1397 I only just remember the 59s on the Picc. The 73 stock were running at that time but were slow being delivered.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus I would love to have experience a ride a heritage 59/62 stock train, but I was born in the mid 90s around the time they were withdrawn.
@@louisducasse1397 the 59s got transferred to the Northern line when the 1973 stock took over on the Piccadilly line
1:37, commuter kicks off!
Yes, the guard sholud have had x-ray vision and seen him running down the stairs and waited!
The good days when rolling stock can help on other lines as long they were in good operational shape, compatible to run on those lines and they were not needed much on the lines they normally serve from service reductions.
Guessing here the Jubilee line was cut in half from engineering works and so the Metropolitan line A Stock stopped at both Willesden Green and Neasden to connect the two halves together.
The Metropolitan line does not normally stop between Finchley Road and Wembley Park.
Fast Metropolitan line trains don't stop between Finchley Road and Harrow on the Hill.
Back in the good old days when Metropolitan line ran semi fast and fast all day everyday.
I'm guessing that Metropolitan line stopped at both Neasden and Willesden Green to connect both sides of the Jubilee line when engineering works was going on here.
Metropolitan doesn't normally stop at Willesden Green and Neasen unless in rare and occasional circumstances.
Yes, these three weekends this happened were the only times i have got on & off the Met at these stations. And it was to link the Jubilee gap between Wembley Park and Willesden. A bus ran to cover Dollis Hill.....
Cor that's some fantastic footage! Great Great stuff!
Hi there, i'm pleased you like it. As far as i know the 59s working on the Jubilee only happened for 3 Sundays in 1986, i've never seen any photos of it happening anywhere!
My heart hopped at 19:20
The guard can't give the starting bell while the doors are open so there was no danger of the train moving off.....
I find the underground network fascinating. The various points where trains can turn back make it quite flexible and certainly assist in recovering time during delays etc. I feel the national rail network and Network Rail could learn a thing or three from the underground system. How many routes have mile upon mile of dual tracks with no cross over or turn back point in the case of an incident or train failure, leading to whole routes or branches being closed to traffic, or rolling stock trapped should there be a problem.
Points and sidings cost money in maintainence, even the Underground is removing some. Mainlines tend to be longer so will not have so many too frequently but a do exist even if controlled by ground frame
The Metropolitan line does not normally stop at Willesden Green and Neasden.
Im assuming that the Metropolitan line A Stock stopped at both stations to help connect both halves of the Jubilee line as engineering works cut the line in half.
The Metropolitan line was also affected as both Jubilee and Metropolitan lines run next to each other between Finchley Road and Wembley Park.
Towards Central London, Jubilee line descends into deep tube tunnel whilst Metropolitan line also goes underground but below the surface in cut and cover, trench based tunnels with short open sections in between.
Yes, the Met stopped specially on all 3 weekends that this engineering work took place.
Excellent footage. Proper Underground stock.
Until I saw the comments I was convinced that was the Stanmore section of the Bakerloo line.
In 1985 they had stopped using the 1959 stock in favour of the 1969 & 1979 stock.
This section of line was the Bakerloo until May 1979 when the Jubilee opened. The 59s seen here were from the Bakerloo (Bakerloo & Jubilee crews inter-worked both lines until March 1988 when the Jubilee went OPO) and were used on the Willesden-CX section due to engineering works at Neasden, for three Sunday's only. The Bakerloo had 59 stock from 1982 (after general service cuts across the network produced spare trains on the Northern) and ran them until around May 1989 when the last went back to the Northern. The Jubilee opened with all the 72MkII stock until around 1984 when the first 83 appeared. The last 83 was delivered by 1989 and the final 72 was transfered to the Bakerloo ready for its OPO conversion in November 1989.
Soi Buakhao That would explain why I never saw the older stock, as back then I didn’t work sundays 👍🏿
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus m
Bet that was fun to operate......
59's were great trains to work on, much more reliable than 72 stock!
At 3:02, the Operator needed to wait for the train to stop so he can enable the headlights.
The white lights (marker lights) appearing on the rear is where the guard changed them over ready for the retrurn trip. It was the drivers job to change them over but was custom & practise for the guard to do his end at the end of a trip. I too have chnged them over ready just as the train arrived at the Elephant or Stanmore, or when pulling in to the reversing sidings at Wembley park, Harrow or Queens Park.
Ah, the sound of self lapping brakes and PCM equipment.
A lovely more mechanical age, before everything became digital, and whined!
MMM oh yes!
what's the sound being made at 17 seconds to about 24 seconds?
Sam Gregory That is the shoes vibrating on the conductor rails
I thought 1959 didn't operate on the Jubilee line I know 1972 tube stock did until 1989.
Normally no they didn't. 72 Mkll Stock worked on there until the last was transfered to the Bakerloo in 1989, alongside the 1983 Stock from about 1984 onwards. There wrer 3 Sundays in January/February 1986 when because of re-laying the junction at Neasden the Jubilee was cut in two. The Stanmore end ran as a shuttle to & from Wembley Park with trains that left Neasden Depot from the north end while the easy option for the Willesden Green-Charing X service was 59 Stock ex London Road Depot (+ 1 72 stabled at CX overnight). The Bakerloo and Jubilee lines were interworked so Queens Pk & Elephant crews worked the Jubilee and Neasden & Baker St (Jubilee Depot off pfm 10) crews worked the Bakerloo (but Neasden crews didn't go beyond Stonebridge Park) so there was no problem re stock knowledge using the 59s, they just had Bakerloo line diagrams instead of Jubilee ones! These shots were of the last time it happened in early Feb 86. It was the last time 59s & A60s worked alongside one another, having done so when the 59s were on the Picc and ran to Rayners & Uxbridge.
Have you got anymore vintage footage of the London Underground?
I have more film from that era, i started videoing in 1985, an M1 Panasonic camera that took E180 video tapes. I went from 5 mins of silent cine film to 3 hours with sound for the same cost (1 tape was same price as a cine film)and have lots of buses, trains and Underground. I'll see what else i can get up!
I'd love to see all taht footage, specially Underground!
Hi Juan, there is already another Underground video up takem in the Summer of 1985, see it here th-cam.com/video/iMsEiykBLWY/w-d-xo.html, happy viewing! I will get some more loaded soon as well.
13:51 Wow 7 car 1959 stock seem much shorter than 1996 stock trains.
I thnk the 59s are longer. when on the Northern both end cabs were in tunnel when at platforms. The 95s are a bit shorter so as to fit in most platforms underground.
Did the A Stock get its design from 1959, 1938, 1960 and 1962 stocks?
More the 1960 Stock, both share a Cravens design.
same controls
@@EM-yk1dw Yes, until the 1960TS received it's test ATO.
What I read on Wikipedia was the A Stock got its design from the 38 stock. I think all the trains you mentioned are based on the 38 stock. The 60 stock was a prototype for the 67 stock, I think.
I find the traction motor sounds different on the 60 stock. I don't know if that was because they refurbished or geared? I think the 38s, 59s, 62s and A stock all have BASICALLY the same traction motors with difference in volume though.
Note the A stock southbound at Neasden past the engineering. That would not happen today, too much H&S namby pambying!
Believe it or not that still goes on, certainly on the main line railway. On a four track railway if the fasts were shut the slow/relief would still be open but with a speed restriction past any worksites (rather than the length of a whole Block), normally 20mph from my experiences.
What would happen if two master keys were enabled at both ends of a train?
If you had two Control keys in you would get an audible warning, which on Westinghouse stock was a very loud blast of air in your ears in the cab!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Did it ever trip?
I know 1972 stock movie on bakerloo line?
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What did there do 1938 stock tube trains?
Scrapped mostly.... Three are at Shoreditch, up on the old Broad Street line viaduct, in use as studios. You can see them from Great Eastern Street.....
How long did the 59 stock run on the jubilee line
For three Sunday's in January & February 1986. The Bakerloo & Jubilee were worked as one line by traincrews, so due to engineering work between Willesden & wembley Park, the south end of the Jubilee was worked using one 72 that stabled at Charing Cross overnight and the rest were 59's from London Road. The north end had 83's from Neasden.
What about the 72 stock
And what stock was the original jubilee line train
@@scottsimpsom6624 The normal service was worked half & half by 72 & 83 stock.
@@scottsimpsom6624 When the line opened in 1979 it was worked totally by 72 stock.
What happened at 18:55 onwards???
A passenger walked up to the train and stuck their foot in the door (a red rage to a Guard), in general us Guards did not like to reopen the doors, as in general there was always going to be someone just about to miss the train and come running up. For a metro style service in central London there is another train a min or two behind!
Soi Buakhao Looked like he was up to something criminal and was trying to escape!! How long were you a guard for? and on what line/lines? Also was a guard ever killed eyeing up the ladies on the platform??
@@kell8721 Or lead is going to die!
1:30 soi buakhao thailand is my land. farang