Know the Truth - Primacy of Peter
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2015
- Jesus instituted His Church and named Peter as its head. As such, Peter was conferred an exclusive and awesome authority..
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There are so many events in the bible that shows Peter's special role in the Church that will be going to establish by our Lord and in its early existence. Our brothers in Orthodox accepted Peter's primacy but rejected his supremacy to avoid obedience to the pope. The Protestants led by Martin Luther totally rejected this truth because accepting this fact would mean they are wrong with their stand and faith and the churches they were established will be useless.
MARAMING SALAMAT DIN SA INYO
Sana gumawa pa po kayo ng mga video tungkol sa mga Orthodox.
wala atang orthodox sa Pilipinas
God bless po
Sana bumalik ulit si att. Marwel
2 Peter 1 : 20 " For you must first and foremost realize that no
prophecy in Scripture permits of private interpretation ; for no
prophecy was ever borne to us by the will of man, but men spoke from
GOD, when they were carried away by the Holy Spirit."
Hillo po sa inyo.ako ay isang katoliko.ang tanong ko po saan po mababasa sa bibliya kung sino ang nagtayo na ating simabahan at anong pahina
SIYA NAWA
Baka naman po pweding madagdagan ang oras, salamat po.
Attorney napanuid ko yan. Palagsy ko meron talagang tao na. orn for debate. Matalino at maalam si Sir Ramon. Walang duda katunayan tinalo nya ang INC pero iba ang dating parang di siya palaban. Iba yung datingan na debater palagay ko mahusay ka jan Attorney. Marami ka kasing bitaw na side dish tipong pang init ulo ba. Si Sir Ramin kasi masyading seryoso.
Kala ko amirecano ka ehh
Bakit ayaw nyang magtagalog e tagalog naman yung mga kausap nya
Cebuano ata sya, may mga Cebuano kc na mas madali sa kanilang mag English kaysa Tagalog
Wag kna kc mag English Ramon Tagalog un kausap mo ng English k para maganda topic
Cebuano kasi siya, pero magaling siyang apologist. Hindi siya matatas managalog. Pero he has that vast knowledge of our Catholic dogmas.
James made the judgement regarding the Gentiles, and head the college of the apostles, not Peter.
Hilario Meriales
sure???
Hilario Meriales
read the whole passage of acts 15:6-21
Hilario Meriales
who spoke first???
It's not who had spoken first, but who the leader was during their time, and that was James who made decision concerning Gentiles.
I don't interpret verses in the Bible, as we have authorize persons for that, beside, it will just bring us into confusion when our two analysis collide.
sa susunod mag tagalog ka na lang bro. Ramon. no offense meant...
CEBUANO YAN BRO, WAG MO PILITIN MAG-TAGALOG. HE IS JUST SIMPLY COMFORTABLE MAG-ENGLISH. TONGUE TWISTER SA CEBUANO ANG TAGALOG KADALASAN LANG HA, HINDI LAHAT.
Si santiago daw ay nakikiusap pa,samantalang si pedro ay tumatimik daw lahat nung tumayo na si pedro.
Simple lang naman yun,lets imagine na kasama ko ng tatlong nasa video na yan,then habang nagsasalita sila ay tumayo ako at nagsalita tungkol sa bible,im sure tatahimik ang tatlo na yan dahil makukuha ko atensyon nila sa pamamagitan ng pagtayo at makikinig sa kung ano man ang sasabihin ko.
Kayo talagang mga kulyo ang yayabang nyo mapagmataas ganyang ang ugaling gustong gusto ni satanas
I regret to disagree with this video, The first early Christians never see Peter with a primacy over all Bishop. All Bishops are all equal in the eye of Jesus Christ and this is what the Early Christians Believed.The first Church that has been establish by the first Christians was in Jerusalem and not in Rome, On that church where all the disciples of Jesus Christ are its member have selected the first Bishop of Christianity, pick by all the Apostles of Christ, If Jesus Christ have commanded them to give the primacy over Peter, Then this should have been obeyed by all disciples but why is it that James the Brother of Jesus was the first Bishop of the First church founded in Jerusalem and not Peter? because Peter was not really given the Primacy over the church.Luke 9:46 - An argument started among them as to which of them might be the greatest. But Jesus, knowing what they were thinking in their heart, took a child and stood him by His side, and said to them, "Whoever receives this child in My name receives Me, and whoever receives Me receives Him who sent Me; for the one who is least among all of you, this is the one who is great." (Never did Jesus say Peter was the greatest among all the disciples but instead told them to be meek and humble, not like the Bishop of Rome who wanted to be the greatest and a Pope who wanted to be kissed on his feet and hand) All Apostles will be seated equally among themselves they were commission for the twelve tribes of Israel and will be the Judge to all of them. which means no one is greater than anyone.John 21:15 - So when they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love Me more than these?" He said to Him, "Yes, Lord; You know that I love You." He said to him, "Tend My lambs." 16He said to him again a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love Me?" He said to Him, "Yes, Lord; You know that I love You." He said to him, "Shepherd My sheep." This statement was not about giving Peter commission to be the leader of taking care of Jesus flocks but it has something to do with Peter Three times denial of Jesus Christ, Three times he denied him, Three times he asked Peter of his loved for him and if he loved him show it by taking care of the flocks which all the Apostles are commissioned to do. Peter was just being convicted of his own sin which should be replaced with loved for him and not about being his leadership but only being strengthened over his own conviction. All early leaders of the church have commented over Matthew 16:18 and it all shows that it was not Peter who is the foundation of the Church but Peter own confession : Thou art the Messiah The Son of the Living God" And by these Rock the Church will be founded, This will be the very foundation of the faith that whoever confess the Faith will become also a Rock that will be placed to the very foundation just like Peter. Peter was just a representation to all the faithful and believer and upon having the Faith they will be called Rock like Peter. Thus the multitude of rock that is being placed in the foundation will build up the church.Clement of Rome writing to the Corinthians does not signify the primacy of Rome over all Bishops But this is just what all Bishops are doing to all Bishops that are going astray and this could be seen with Cyprian the Bishops of Carthage and he is making an argument over the baptism of the heretics that they should be re-baptized again and these is being said to Stephen the Bishop of Rome. Stephen said he has the seat of Peter and has all the Primacy over all Bishops and Cyprian told him that they are all equal in the eye of Jesus Christ and no bishops is higher than the other.From the Council of Nicaea, Council of Chalcedon, Council of Constantinople and the rest of the early Councils does not show any Pope and all this Council have denied any suggestions of having a Bishop over all Bishops in the empire. It was only in 595 AD where one of the Bishops claimed himself the head of all Bishops, This was given by Emperor Maurice of Constantinople to John IV a Patriarch of Constantinople, St. Gregory the Great Bishop of Rome went against it and here is all his letter:To Emperor Maurice: "Now I confidently say that whosoever calls himself, or desires to be called, Universal Priest, is in his elation the precursor of Antichrist, because he proudly puts himself above all others. (Book VII: Epistle XXXIII) "Certainly Peter, the first of the apostles, himself a member of the holy and universal Church, Paul, Andrew, John-what were they but heads of particular communities? And yet all were members under one Head... "...the prelates of this Apostolic See, which by the providence of God I serve, had the honor offered them of being called universal by the venerable Council of Chalcedon. But yet not one of them has ever wished to be called by such a title, or seized upon this ill-advised name, lest if, in virtue of the rank of the pontificate he took to himself the glory of singularity, he might seem to have denied it to all his brethren..." (Book V, Epistle XVIII) And again to Eulogios, Bishop of Alexandria:
"Your Blessedness... You address me saying, 'As you have commanded.' This word 'command', I beg you to remove from my hearing, since I know who I am, and who you are. For in position you are my brethren, in character, my fathers... "...in the preface of the epistle which you have addressed to myself, who forbade it, you have thought fit to make use of a proud appellation, calling me Universal Pope. But I beg you most sweet Holiness to do this no more, since what is given to another beyond what reason demands, is subtracted from yourself... For if your Holiness calls me Universal Pope, you deny that you are yourself what you call me universally." (Book VIII: Epistle XXX) St. Gregory the Great never desired to be the supreme leader of all Bishops, John IV after claiming the ecumenical head of all Bishops died in a year, Then Boniface III who went after St. Gregory proclaimed himself and in a year he died, this signified that God does not want anyone to be head of any Bishops. Only by Leo III who crowned Charlemagne in the 8th century and become the Holy emperor and Leo become the head of all church, uniting the church and the State together and forcing all Bishops by the sword to kneel over him as THE POPE, Thus the Anti Christ have entered the Church and the Apostasy of the Roman Catholic began. division and Schism occur by the coming of the Anti Christ, False Doctrine of the church start to creep in, Christian started to kill heretics by order of the POPE using his own Doctrine that he formulated, He even placed all Kings under his own rule since Jesus Christ is the KING of KING, He asked all prince to kneel over him and kissed his own feet. But Peter himself when he saw Cornelius bow and kneel to him, Stop Cornelius and say I am just a man But the POPE did not do that instead he acted like a God on Earth. There was even a time when there were Three POPES in History, One in France, another in Rome and the other one in Constantinople. All these by using and misinterpreting Matthew 16:18, and saying Peter was the first Bishop of Rome, he was Martyred and died in Rome. Rome even showed the bones of Peter But in 1953 The remain of Peter was found by a Franciscan Priest in Mt. Olives together with the remain of other Christians in the Christian burial ground. In the box laid the bones and was engraved the name Simon Bar Jona, Peter then died in Jerusalem and not in Rome
www.aloha.net/~mikesch/peters-jerusalem-tomb.htmThe Roman church have lied because of greed for Power, They say if you do not believed in the Pope you are not a Catholic, but if the one who say that, is a liar themselves, it is them who is not a True Catholic but an enemy of Jesus Christ. We have to worship God in Truth and in Spirit and by the Truth we will be set free.
So you never read Matthew 16:18 where Jesus himself gave the primacy to Peter?
+Dennis M The question is, have you read what I have posted?, because if you did you will not ask these question.
Wisdom I read what you wrote that's why I'm asked you the question. Your interpretation of Matt 16:18 does not make sense. Whether it's Peter himself or his confession is irrelevant; the bottom line is that Jesus is talking to Peter when he said "I will give YOU the keys to the kingdom of heaven". Jesus is assigning Peter as his representative on earth. What's more, he adds " whatever YOU bind" and "whatever YOU loose" denoting authority in rabbinic terms. Even St. Clement of Alexandria said "The blessed Peter, the chosen, the preeminent, the first of the disciples, for whom alone and himself the Saviour paid tribute..." (200 AD). Also, did you notice that whenever the apostles are enumerated in the Gospels, Peter is ALWAYS mentioned first, denoting that even in the early Christians Peter has a primary position.
+Dennis M What you have said is what Rome wants you to believe of its interpretation, that by Peter they can establish the rule on the whole Christian world through succession of Peter. What is the very beginning of the verse in Matthew 16:18? "Who do you say that I am?" This is about Jesus If Jesus ask "Who do you say Peter is?" Then you are right It was all about Peter. But I am sorry it is not. The one who answered the question correctly was Peter, It is his Confession that Jesus is the Messiah the Son of the living God, This is the very faith needed by everyone to be in the Church ,and Peter being the first one to confess, it makes him the very first faithful believer in Christ. It is the very basis of how the Church will be formed and this was similarly translated like building a structural building with foundation and rocks or bricks that will be laid upon the foundation. Any builder knows that you may need a lot of rocks in order to build a house, a church or a temple, according to your interpretation it is only Peter who is the Rock, can you build a church with just one Rock? that is impossible, that is the reason your interpretation does not make sense at all. Peter was just made an example of that Rock that would be placed in the foundation and sooner the whole disciples of Jesus also becomes a Rock that comprised and formed the whole church. What Jesus have said to Peter is also true to the whole Rock or faithful believers that will also be placed in the foundation, they too has the Key to heaven, To give repentance and to baptized and be in the inner circle of the very foundation of the church. Annanias was not Peter and was not even an Apostle of Jesus Christ but it was him who baptized Paul to be in the church which shows Peter is not the only one who has the Key to heaven but all the faithful believer. Baptism is one of the Key to heaven For no one can enter the Kingdom of God unless you are born again with water and with the Holy Spirit.
So, what you are saying that Jesus changing the name of Simon to Peter does not mean anything, no significance, and the giving of the keys of the kingdom of heaven and the binding/loosing authority to Peter is not what it means even though it is clearly addressed to Peter alone. Wow, you are clearly doing some acrobatics in your interpretation just to avoid the obvious implication that Jesus is singling out Peter for a special role in his church. Haven't you read what St. Clement said? Here's my challenge: quote to me any early Church Father who denies the papacy. Something to the effect like, "Why are you telling me what to do, you have no jurisdiction here in Jerusalem, you're the bishop of Rome only".
Jesus never named Peter as the head. Where is this in the Bible? Peter never had any authority. All the Apostles were equal. If Peter had authority, then why was it that St. James who made the decision at the Jerusalem Synod. Acts. In Matt. 16;18 Jesus is addressing all the Apostles. The church is not built on a person, but on a person's confession of faith, on who Jesus Christ is. All the Apostles were given the keys and authority. They all were representative of Christ's teachings.
The verse means that the Church will be built on the confession of faith on who Jesus Christ was, the Son of God. The Church is built on one's faith. The Church can not be built on a person.
vasilyjc1955
The keys of Heaven were only given to St. Peter. He has the most authority, but through him, the other apostles also have the authority. Anyone even the successor of the apostles which are not in communion with the successor of St. Peter, the pope, the Vicar of Christ haven't true authority.
just by giving of Jesus a key to peter it clearly says that peter has given the authority.and by understanding "whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." doesn't it sounds like he was given an authority? if it's hard for you to understand a simple sentence , how much more the whole bible?
We cannot really find a single statement that Jesus speaks directly to Peter and telling him "I will make you the head of the apostles or the church".
But there are implicit statements that we can read in the Bible about Peter being the leader or chief of the apostles.
First in the Gospel of St. Matthew
Matthew 10:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;
Peter was called the first from the above verse and first is expressed based on the original Greek text prōtos which means chief.
Second in the Gospel of St.John
John 21:15-17
15 When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, “Feed my lambs.” 16 A second time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, “Tend my sheep.” 17 He said to him the third time, “Simon son of John, do you love me?” Peter felt hurt because he said to him the third time, “Do you love me?” And he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, “Feed my sheep.
From the above verses Jesus told Peter to tend and feed his sheep. The sheep according to the Bible are the people of God. The shepherds will be the leaders of the flock.
Jeremiah 25:34 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
34 Howl, ye shepherds, and cry: and sprinkle yourselves with ashes, ye leaders of the flock: for the days of your slaughter and your dispersion are accomplished, and you shall fall like precious vessels.
Besides from the statement of Jesus when he said to Peter "Tend my ship". The Greek word for tend being used is Poimaine with the definition I shepherd, tend, herd; hence: I rule, govern.
The same meaning of the following verses about the Lord Jesus Christ the use of Greek word poimaine.
Revelation 2:27 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
27 to rule[a] them with an iron rod,
as when clay pots are shattered-
Revelation 12:5 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule[a] all the nations with a rod of iron. But her child was snatched away and taken to God and to his throne;
Yes it is true that James made the decision but his decision was based only on the statements made by Peter. It was Peter who made the definitive decision.
Acts 15;13-14 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
13 After they finished speaking, James replied, “My brothers,[c] listen to me. 14 Simeon has related how God first looked favorably on the Gentiles, to take from among them a people for his name.
Acts 15:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
This event is very much parallel to the other council in Jerusalem in the old Testament about the building of the temple. It was King David who made the definitive decision as having the supreme authority of Israel so as St. Peter made the definitive decision on that council as having the supreme authority of the church.
1 Chronicles 28:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 Howbeit the Lord God of Israel chose me before all the house of my father to be king over Israel for ever: for he hath chosen Judah to be the ruler; and of the house of Judah, the house of my father; and among the sons of my father he liked me to make me king over all Israel:
The very words are very striking when King David said that the Lord God of Israel chose me before you and Peter also said the same words that God chose him by his mouth the Gentiles must hear the gospel.
What? Peter is the first disciple of Chirst. Its always systematic since then and to our generations. Its a family tree. John is the closest of Christ because John is the youngest.