Paulsboro Dwelling Fire - 3/8/2020
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- PAULSBORO, NJ (Gloucester County) - Sunday March 8th 2020 at approximately 11:40hrs, District 17, Station 6-1 (Thorofare), and Station 21-1 (Gibbstown) were dispatched to the 500 block of Lincoln Ave for a reported house fire. Upon fire officers response, Communications advised they received a report that the dwelling had an active fire. Units arrived quickly and began knocking the fire down and continued to search for extension as well as salvage and overhaul operations. One firefighter injury was reported but was minor in nature, unknown on the extent. Unknown of any other civilian injuries at this time. Units from Westville (7-3) and National Park (8-1) also were called in to the scene to assist with firefighting operations. The incident is under investigation by the Gloucester County Fire Marshal's Office.
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They cut the hole in the roof after the fact so when they come back for the rekindle there is less work to do! LMFAO!!!!
Wtf is that about? 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Great knock down but please don't open door till you have charged line in hand! Stay safe Brothers and Sisters!
door was already open hence the heavy smoke
No sir I road a engine company for 25 years and when we come off the engine we are ready to fight fire. All we had to do is stretch hose and plug our sir to our mask.
Johnny64ism then close it
@@devilsgoalie13 well ya they did to keep the fire from blowing out the door way until the line was charged...they knew what they were doing
Johnny64ism i sense the sarcasm
Why weren’t they packed up and ready to enter! Valuable time wasted getting the SCBA on. Retired FF.
I know my department has it so we mask up at the door so you dont get tunnel vision before entering the structure
@@kluttchkyle2318 ????
Too many accidents starting up other than the entry point.
no sense in being a yard breather.
It was the first thing i noticed. Not a firefighter myself.
I'm a U.S. Marine and i have run into many a dangerous enclosure during my time in the Marines/Desert Storm. One thing remains true of both me and my unit at that time and firefighters...you need to have your equipment/gear fully ready to go before hand!!! Stay Safe out there.
I wish I could get $1 for every time I see a video with firemen battling the dreaded screen door 🤣
yep --you would think somebody would "invent" some sort of little clip or something 🤣
Why did they cut a ventilation hole in the roof after the fire was out!
That's what I was thinking, just turn in the ppv and no need for the hole. But good training nonetheless.
Negative ! Hi temp fire, I would go for the vent hole to eliminate extension into the attic
@@jimwattenburger9924 I disagree, the fire was all out plus the roof was wet, in the U.S.A you use positive pressure fans, they had one so I'm assuming they used it to ventilate the structure, that would have ventilated any stored pockets of hot gasses. I served with the London Fire Brigade (UK).
These men and women are volunteers. If it weren't 11:40 on a Sunday morning most of them wouldn't have even been able to be there. Mistakes were made. But on arrival that house was going pretty good with a vulnerable B side exposure. They Knocked it down pretty fast , saved the exposure from any damage and left the property owner/ insurance company with a rebuildable house, and did it for free.
Your first couple of statements are very key. Yes they are volunteers, having started my career with a volunteer department I can tell you that volunteers have more time to train, less staffing to train and just as good a resources as any department. Volunteers go to firefighting school just like any other fire fighter. Your second line: Mistake “s” were made. It only takes one mistake to kill you or one of your brothers. When you walk up to a fully involved fire, you don’t stop and finish getting dressed at the door and when you decide to open that door you had better be prepared for what’s on the other side. First thing you learn in firefighting, it take 3 main ingredients to make fire. When you open the door the is containing a fire and all of a sudden introduce a Fresh surge of oxygen where do you think that fire is going to go......right into your face. Then it amazed me that I heard at least 2 guys say hey you’re on fire and then just stood there. Mistakes aren’t allowed in combatting a fire, that’s how people die.... one little simple oooops could have a catastrophic outcome. I hate it when people say oh their just volunteers, they did a pretty good job! They are firefighters, the fire doesn’t care about their title. One thing that I drilled into my guys every shift, “Be Prepared”.
@@saline484 Wow.... ok champ, that's one way to communicate. It would be good if more paid firefighters took the time to come train with us, you may want to work on not being such an @ss though.
I still can't get over you saying volunteers have more time to train. Thats just.... wow
Their better than a lot of paid departments
It's too bad that there are "brothers" on here bashing each other. We're here to learn from others and hopefully take something away from what we have seen or heard in the video. Let's leave the service better than we found it. Let's work together to make it better for the next generation. Show each other some respect and work it out by constructive criticism about the video, not tearing each other down. Let's see what "Brotherhood" truly means.
Thank you Mike for shedding light on that. It's sad to see all the arm chair quarterbacks ripping people and their operations apart. I'd rather folks just say thank you, add lessons learned and positive suggestions on what we can improve on.
WHAT are you going to take away from watching these videos if Intelligent and Responsible people don't critique their performance? You don't get respect if you haven't Earned it! Did you have Rose Colored Glasses on when you wrote your heart warming but useless comment?
That's because they aren't really brothers.JB is just an armchair idiot troll.
@@JB91710 there are plenty of positives and negatives to take away from EACH of these videos that are posted. Firefighting is a fluid, never the same, job. You can learn so much from each call you go on. My comment was made to encourage other firefighters to do good, treat others fairly ( if you respect them or not ), and to set an example that others may follow. Take care of each other, do your job, and treat people right, and come home to the ones you love after each call. Stay Safe out there !
@@mikepetrosky6227 I don't know the right words to use here so I'll use them all. Your comment comes from mediocrity, fantasy. and irresponsibility. What No One understand is, fire departments and the firefighters have sworn to Protect and Serve. They have a JOB to do and they are Not doing it. Just showing up isn't enough. The fire going out eventually doesn't cut it when it's your stuff burning. NASA engineers and Brain Surgeons don't line up to be firefighters which involves breaking windows and squirting water. 95% of American departments don't even do that right. The biggest Heroes are the worst offenders. The Average person or Two Dimensional Reactors, don't understand this so when I come along to expose their bad performance, the viewers attack me for being disrespectful. The commentors are the ones being disrespectful and they don't even know it. I'm not going to stop exposing their incompetence just because the average person doesn't get it!
Nice little house. I hope everyone is safe and the damage was repaired. Good save by the fire department.
Dude ur on fire. Guy walks right by lol.
Very easy to criticize after the fact, but much respect to them, great knock down, they got the job done! Respects. Take care.
Someone should have mentioned that they’re all vol hall. I won’t criticize, but they have a lot of work to do. Other than that, knocked it down pretty quick.
They always get the job done!! It's the way some things are done.
Pssssssst you’re on fire!!!!
Anyone do a 360? Heavy fire on the Charlie side. Who cut power? Where’s second line? And damn that’s a good camera! 4K?!
What happened to door control. That door should have never opened until that attack line was ready to reduce heat. The firefighter almost injured himself and others.
Crap firefighting to be fair. Not a clue.
OMG be ready to go before you get there. The one person went in and forgot to clip his air in.
Hard to watch!
Lets go ahead and climb up here and cut some holes in the roof after the fire has done been put out.
Hey let’s all go in standing up like they showed us at the Academy!!
Lol.
I guess they wanted to get their helmets dirty. lol
Can i ask why they cut a hole in a perfectly good roof when the fire was out ?
Door control.
why is that dude attempting to do a 360 in skinny jeans?
Derek Scalise His wide fit jeans were in the wash!
The fire is out and they cut a hole in the damn roof. There was no benefit to cutting the roof
Connor Rowbotham are you even a firefighter? Wtf kind of bullshit answer is that? The firefighters will pull all the sheet rock down off the walls and ceilings of the affected areas and wash everything down. Its called overhaul. You open the windows and put a fan in the doorway to blow the smoke out while doing overhaul. Youre supposed to cut the hole in the roof DURING FIRE ATTACK to make conditions better for the engine crew. Not 30 minutes after the fire is out.
Connor Rowbotham
Unnecessary damage. Yes you can remove smoke and check for hidden fire without cutting a hole in the roof!
@@resqjason2 They cut the hole in the roof after the fact so when they come back for the rekindle there is less work to do! LMFAO!!!!
Training :)
@Connor Rowbotham PPV??
Lmao.... put the fire out then top ventilate. Zero smoke came out of that.
I've met a number of people from N.J. They were all very kind, helpful, polite and friendly...........HA JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!
I bet those necks felt like hornets were getting ya! Why go in standing up? In a room that was in Rollover/flashover conditions? Just trying to get your helmets crusty? Look above you, that thermal layer flashed and one firefighter was even on fire for a minute. Look up! That’s where the heat and fire is gonna be. Your smoke conditions warned you long before it even happened, when smoke starts moving turbulently, the fire is gonna be right behind it. Stay safe brothers
This video just shows a bunch of incompetent firefighters. ...... not trying to Monday morning quarterback but these guys need to train more
Constructive criticism is not bashing. It's firefighters on the outside of the whole operation looking in and helping firefighters that were focused in fighting the fire. If constructive criticism is not wanted, don't post the videos. Every department has different tactics that could help each other.
That said.... that guy on the tip holding the door open before the line was charged. It's being said a lot here, but definitely close that door until you're ready to go in. You had the gate wide open without your sword. We could see that thing starting to roll over while you were looking back...I wanted to yell thru the TV to drop and shut the door. The flash over caught you by surprise and you stood up right into it. Careful man....that could have gone very bad. Instead you just got a little hot around the collar. LOL Once you guys had a stiff line and started to push, great job. When that other crew showed up though, they went thru the motions of what we're taught to do, but not if it isn't needed. That fire already had a better vent than that hole in the roof would have given. That big window cleared that place out pretty quick. As you saw when they popped that lid no smoke came out. But it's just the standard procedure we're taught we're supposed to do. Horizontal ventilation, especially self ventilation is just as effective if not more. Those two things aside, nice job.
It doesn't matter that this was volley departments...???? Fire kills a volunteer just as fast as it will a career or civilian life. But at 7:05 when the ladder comes in contact with a wire... Unbelievable...thats what a safety officer is good for. But safety is everyone's job.
I wonder why they did not have a charged line before opening the front door.stay safe out there 👍
THE FIREFIGHTER IS PUTTING HIS MASK ON THEN WALKS AWAY FROM THE FIRE ??????????????
And people wonder why the HIHFTY page exists lmaoo this was horrible in so many ways
Good knock down, could have been done much more efficiently though. Everyone goes home safe, it's a good outcome.
Return to practice, those first guys are dangerous for themselfs...
WHEN I HIT A JUMP SEAT IF THEY SAID FLAMES SHOWN WE AUTOMATICALLY PACKED UP WE WERE BREATHING AIR AND READY TO ADVSNCE IN THAT HOUSE YOU GOT 500 GALLONS OF WATER BEFORE THE HYGRENT BUT WE WOULD NEVER RUN OUT THIS IS REALLY BAD FIREFIGHTING
wow lot's of lessons here, never come off the truck without something in your hand, don't open the door without the having the line charged. look up when the porch is involved , nice thing that Thorofare Captain was there to put some direction into the Gibbstown initial team. great turn out !
what a slow fire brigade no hurry the house is burning, the fire brigades I have seen will be dressed and ready they will not be outside the fire and will take on the equipment ,,,
Overall a good knockdown... Vertical vent would have definitely helped and when you're at the front door waiting for your line to be charged, keep the door shut... that fire is going good enough and doesn't need anymore fresh O2 from the open door. Only open it after the line is charged.
Vertical vent is going out of style. It’s old school.
@Erich Weiler Many fire departments are trending away from routine vertical ventilation. There is still a time and a place but as a priority it is falling out of favor.
@Erich Weiler Horizontal ventilation and the use of flow paths, whether natural or with blowers. In either case, interior door control is important as is not breaking windows indiscriminately. These techniques are used after command receives the FUC benchmark. Vertical ventilation MAY still be used for top floor fires or attic fires.
@Erich Weiler Fire Under Control. The ability to open and close interior, or exterior doors for that matter to aid in ventilation of different parts of the structure. Using the flow path of air, you can ventilate rooms with no windows.
@Erich Weiler I would recommend you checking out some videos on Positive Pressure Attack. GENERALLY have found it to be much more efficient and effective than vertical vent. While its not a one size fits all tactic, it is a great tool in the tool box.
Control the door while getting ready, feed it less oxygen and check basement windows to see where if it's a basement fire.
Those ladies gossiping in the background😂
Great video, those guys had their hands full upon arrival. Storm doors are a pain in the a$$.
I remember my first fire, this must be a brand new company. And there first Job
The importance of reading Smoke. Flashover at around 2:10. Ventilation tactics employed by closing the door and waiting for the charged hose line. Had me worried while watching the situation degrade. Good video to remind yourself about situational awareness.
Thanks for the video!
Anyone else notice the female firefighter at 3:10 go to feed the 2 1/2 through the front door, push once and then say fuck it and just walk away? Good thing the Chief showed up and did her job for her.
Oh a female, okay I commented above and said "guy" but its all good no matter who is there they need to be able to take the brunt of whatever comes around
someday someone may figure out that those storm doors have a little clip that can hold them open
The fighter on the front steps is ready to go. He wants an attack line so bad he can’t stand it.
*It's vids/volunteers like this that give all volunteers a bad rap.....there are volunteer dept's out there that are trained to the same standards, that trained at the same academy & trained w/the same identical curriculum as career FF's.....you wouldn't tell the difference w/o reading volunteer on there apparatus or gear.*
don't fight with that female police office, all she has to do is fall on you. Get in shape
Nice aggressive attack very nice.
Why are they doing roof ventilation after the fire is out???
Too much toxic masculinity going on here. 😋
Is that lady an EMT and a police officer?
Great job with the early ventilation and spraying water from the outside with interior crews working.
Jimmy M you also forgot how the nozzle man tested to see if the fire was hot enough to burn him before entering the structure I’m gonna implement that technique.
How about slamming the nozzle shut at 5:40
And the first man in was...............On Fire! LOL
No need to cut the roof after the fire and not even an effective cut at that
Gang bang on the porch? What are they doing?
Great stop PFD.
Great video. Thanks.
One guy committed at door permanently to assist with pinch points and wedge or remove screen door would make things much easier. Good Job crews!
I don’t like to criticize other firefighters but I can’t help myself with this video 🤦♂️🤦♂️ at the front door masking up going on air with no tools or no hand line. Fire rolling over his head with a dry hose line and no door control. His friend puts his helmet on the ground puts his hood on and no mask ...... chief of the department playing with the hose on the porch..... venting the roof after the fire is out ......standing on the porch with no smoke condition on air ...... but it’s ok because they are “just volunteers” goes to show you what the level of expectations are from career vs volunteer ..... 🤷🏻♂️
Oh look another pretend firefighter
You've never even set foot in a firehouse let alone worked an actual fire
Cue your flailing in 3... 2... 1...
Why the ladders, when you haven’t figured out to ventilate the first floor? Watched so many of these videos and the ventilation practices are horrid.
Thanks for proving you know nothing about firefighting
Fires out. Now you vent??
Yes, that was pointless.
They did the roof cut just for training! I figured the house with toast anyway they might just as well get some training out of it. :)
Ventilation!!!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🗽
Glad the firefighter that was on fire is ok. Great knock down, that's how you do it.
dont open the door till your ready to go
In the front door and out the back! That's the way to do it, great job!
No, it isn't! Read my comments and replies.
so many mistakes
Just about every fire I have ever been on or observed there has always been problems with getting firefighters to stop long enough from walking back and forth and assist with pulling-feeding hose-line to the attack crew(s)!
Ahhh, Door Chock
ultimate door chock. rip it totally off the frame.
@ross beck I am a volunteer and if I see that much fire. I don't worry about keeping the door in working order. I go by "ensure your means of escape". I always rip the door off or to a point that it physically can not close. Some of my chiefs have yelled at me for it but firefighter safety first.
WOW, good knockdown, few things we learned, for training and self practice. Charge hose before entering, prop door, team work makes the dream work. Power on lady's and gents. Good job.
did they save any of the toilet paper?
lol...
Honest question as I watch more and more of these "pre-arrival" videos...I see so often either no venting, or LATE vertical venting. I'm just a volly from Canada...but we would have positive pressure venting at the moment the first attack team made entry. We hardly ever vent the roof, as with modern trusses and the speed of the modern burn, we find it dangerous - but PPV cools, makes for so much better viz, and if done correctly, pushes the fire away from your entry team...why is it NOT done in the USA?
It is done in a few places, but others have never tried it or been trained on it. Some believe that PPV is only to be used *after* fire attack. Some think that breaking windows willy-nilly is how ventilation is accomplished.
The US lacks any central authority to evaluate fire departments and tell them to update their caveman tactics. So they keep on doing what they've been doing.
There are a lot of holes in your comment. The Devil is in the Details. Let me plug them up for you. I'll use this fire as an example.
1. Close the front door to stop feeding the fire fresh air.
2. Do a 360 to find the fire room.
3. Pull a Booster line to the fire room windows while the pump is run up on Tank Water.
4. When water is available, vent the fire room windows to allow the pressure, heat and smoke to release directly to the exterior.
5. Extinguish all Visible Burning Material through those windows to eliminate the immediate threat and stop extension. The water vapor will continue to exit through the windows. Water vapor can't maintain a dangerous temperature without a heat source, that's why you eliminate the flames fast!
6. With the flames knocked down before an entry team can even get dressed, the entry team, with a charged line in hand, can open the front door and enter with a fan behind them to push the heat and smoke out the fire room windows. When you eliminate the flames, you instantly lower the temperature by 1000 degrees and Horizontal Venting along with gas cooling with water will PROTECT the victims and entering firefighters.
You NEVER climb on the roof of a burning building to perform a tactic that NEVER makes the environment better on the lower levels. You Horizontally Vent the windows from the outside to give pressurized heat and smoke a direct exit to the exterior. To all the children out there, tell me where and how I am wrong, not That I am wrong!
@@JB91710 Thanks for the detailed reply, I simply have not seen a fan used at all, although vertical vent seems to be pretty much the go-to in these vids...and that's something I've seen done only once in 10 years in my department.
Question about your initial attack in this case, with the fire room darkened down like this anyway, and the house already "breathing" through the sophets, would you really break a window at the fire room? Would that not risk backdraft? Would a booster line be enough water to do anything on a newly oxygenated, fully involved room? (We would look at that as needing perhaps a 2.5" line) Also, the way we've trained, putting water in from the window would "steam kill" the fire, would it not, super heating the room and making it not survivable, (if it was before) dumping the thermal layer right down to the floor, and possibly pushing the heat back on the attack team?
We would:
1. Do the 360.
2. Set up ppv team and 2 attack teams at alpha entry, vent team at fire room window. (PPV team can be second attack line)
3. Start fan(s), open alpha door, vent fire room by breaking glass (highest available)
4. Entry teams benefits from the fire gasses being pushed away from the entry, better visibility, cooler conditions as they advance with 1.5" line(s), clearing as they go. One team up, one team down. Due to higher viz and lower temp, they are able to make more rapid progression to the seat of the fire, while limiting the damage to the already burned area. Third engine you hear arriving at about 2:20 is RIT.
Not saying this is correct, it's simply what my department would do in this situation. Of course, I'm also assuming that the fire room is on the bravo charlie corner and it looks like there is already extension to the second floor, charlie side. (This could be just the sophets and overhang trapping the heat, I guess) Also assuming that there is indeed at least 8 firefighters on scene initially, with 4 within 10 min of arrival. And that the ladder counts as a pumper. (Surprised that ladders beat engines to fires so often in these vids, as well...)
Bottom line, I would have had some form of ventilation going prior to or in conjunction with entry, and would likely not have made a 4 person entry with a single 2.5" line. It would have been 1 or 2 1.5's, in my opinion.
That said, they knocked it down fast, and everybody went home - including the guy who had the burning vinyl dripping on him...so good job!
@@jimatkinson9679 Everybody needs to get back to basics and K.I.S.S. Don't believe what everyone tells you. Firefighting is too easy to leave training up to the few. Always think for yourself and ask questions. Make your instructors tell you Why their way is best. When a room is burning in a tight house, pressure is increased. When you break out the windows at the fire room, that pressure is released directly to the exterior along with heat and smoke. If water is applied Correctly through the window, the flames will disappear in 3-5 seconds and the room will be soaked in 5-10 seconds. The temperature in that room will drop by 1000 degrees the moment the flames are gone and will further cool as the material is soaked and the heat goes out the windows. The water vapor will leave the room through the windows with the other gasses. If you eliminate the heat source, water vapor becomes harmless. If you fight the fire from the inside without horizontal ventilation, you will be in a steam bath. It still beats 1700 degrees of flame. Vent the fire room and apply tank water. That is the responsibility of all fire departments. Eliminate the threat! Combustion is the threat!
In your scenario, you are adding massive amounts of oxygen into a flammable gas filled house with the ignition source still present and then walking into it. The way you described is a perfect way to get victims and firefighters killed. It leaves out the 1700 degree heat, flammable gasses, lack of visibility, unfamiliarity with the interior and the Danger! With the availability of 500-1000 gallons of onboard water, there is no reason at all to Not horizontally vent and extinguish the fire through the windows before an entry team can be assembled, get fully dressed and get the front door open.
Alpha, Bravo, Charlie and Delta sides. This is a good example of what is wrong with the American fire service. They are trying to make breaking windows and squirting water into Rocket Science. All those words are two syllables. Front, Left, Rear and Right are one syllable and everyone already knows where they are. There is absolutely No reason to change them.
Equipment and manpower. One engine lays in the supply line. One firefighter is at the hydrant. The driver gets out and activates the pump. One FFer pulls the booster line to the fireroom window. Breaks the window and puts the fire out. One firefighter is getting dressed at the front door. The nozzle man gets dressed while he gets the door open. Those two go inside to start the search with the booster line. The hydrant FFer grabs a single stag ladder to break out windows as needed. You can do most of the work with one engine with 750 gallons of water and four firefighters. If a department needs more than that for the initial attack, then they are not organized.
Bottom line. They Didn't knock this down fast. The allowed the front door to stay open. The didn't go to the fire room from outside and eliminate the threat through the windows. Getting the JOB done eventually doesn't count when it is You in that house and Your stuff is burning. "Eliminate the Threat Quickly and Safely while using the least amount of water." Think about what those words mean and why they are important!
These are the priorities at a fire.
1. YOU! You are no good to anyone if you have to call a Mayday.
2. Your fellow firefighters. Without them the job won't get done and number one applies to them also.
3. Your families. If you are being considerate and responsible to them, you won't allow yourself to perform childish and irresponsible tactics. This is Not an game.
4. The Victim. You Protect the victim by eliminating the threat which you can do Long before Search and Rescue.
5. The structure. You have protected the structure by doing number four.
Any firefighters who disagrees with that is Not a mature and professional i.e. REAL firefighter,
@@JB91710 You feel strongly, and perhaps what you are saying would have worked...I agree that I would not have handled the call the way it was - but it did work, and nobody got hurt - even if I have no idea why they worked that fire the way they did.
I am not convinced that breaking a window on a pressurized, smoke and heat filled and oxygen deficient fire room is in any way a safe option. Is this not the very textbook definition of "backdraft conditions"? I think there's actually a drawing of a firefighter doing this with a great big red X over it in the IFSTA manual. Also...by "booster line" - is this the same thing as a reel line...sort of an oversized rubber garden hose about 3/4 to 1 inch in diameter that runs off the truck and is usually used for overhaul or small contained brush fires? If you're going to use water from the exterior to hit the seat of the fire, would not a large volume hose be the better option? Finally, our department always has the first engine forward lay into the call from a hydrant in a hydranted area. We are on continuous supply long before we get through the initial 800 gallons on the truck. The standard 4 or 5 man attack is one of the things we practice most often so that we can be sure that a minimum of time is spent getting supply and getting an attack line (or two) into operation ASAP. In non-hydranted areas, our second unit out is a tender, but yes, in those cases we seriously consider defensive operations until a secure source of water is set up. Fair enough about the terminology...but aren't we (as in all of North America) all adopting the same terminology so that there is no mistake (ie: "Tanker is an aircraft, tenders bring water") and people don't get confused as to whether the "front" of the building faces A street or B avenue, when both have exterior doors? I was under the impression that that's exactly why we don't just say, "come to the left side of the house", or "enter through the back".
I'm just a volly. My career is that of a third service paramedic, which up here is run by the provincial government. I am very well aware that I don't know much at all about firefighting, and there are always different ways to accomplish the goals. I do ask questions, which is why I asked about positive pressure venting, which appears to me to be rare in the lower 48. I'm sorry, but I also respectfully question your idea...as it seems both dangerous and ineffective, given my limited training and experience. I may be wrong. But I have worked fires using the way my department trained and the method IS effective, fast, and DOES save property. I've also watched a department steam cook 2 snakes, a parrot and a cat (luckily the family wasn't home) by applying water without adequate venting, and I've poured water from a 2.5" into a fully involved room that had flashed over from the exterior and was just barely able to use the expanding steam to knock it down with all the water we could dump into there. Thank you for giving me another perspective though, and I will bring this up at our next table-top practice.
They did a great job. Vertical ventilation would have taken too long the fire was well seated they knew what they had to do grab it by the balls.
fighting 14th right they made a fast 💨 attack well executed.
Does nobody do positive pressure venting in the states?
@@jimatkinson9679 yes it is performed in the US.
@@luisf4077 I've never seen it performed in these vids...and yet it's so common around here!
@@jimatkinson9679 Hi Jim. I see what you're saying now. Funny that I haven't seen too many videos uploaded showing its deployment, but outside of these videos, I've seen it's use quite a bit to include my department as well.
Truck company shows up first. No ladders thrown, just standing outside....sad!!
Why big boy didnt pull a line to the house. He could've had everything lined up. What are their s.o.p.s totally wasted time.I used these videos to show guys good work and procedures and some that need tightening up. Standing the door Instead of keeping low fire is chasing oxygen. Why cut open a roof the fire was out more home damage.
I was thinking the same thing about big boy.
How 'bout the 300lb. heffalump porkette all just busy, busy, busy bein' in the way? The kopshop doesn't own a mirror?
Cutting roof when fire is knocked; cmon boys, be smart!
for the life of me I can't understand why they are not ready with all gear on like their mask and hood instead of doing it when they get to the door.
david bentley if you go on air before your in the door your wasting your air. Mask and hood. Turn SCBA on but do not put your respirator on until you get to the door.
@david bentley In my state it is a safety violation to have your SCBA mask on while exiting a vehicle reason being is because the nose cup can block their vision and cause a tripping hazard
My department has it so we mask up at the door before entering also but it shouldn't have taken more than 30 seconds
Not sure how much video was edited but appeared like the interior attack made an aggressive quick knock on the main body of fire!
👍👍👍👍👍💪🤝🙏
It's like watching a stooges episode
Smart move using the tripod. My father worked at the Mobile labs for 35 years
Well i dont know how you guys think about your safety, but a second Line would be nice at frontdoor IF something goes wrong. That Guy should also have Door control.
Throws the hose down and walks away then around back ....Then Chief has to take over and falls.....I cringe because I know these guys are volunteers and I often wonder what the turn over rate is...
Looks like your average "Little Old Lady's House"... Hope she (or anyone else) got out okay...
Wow an aerial for a single story not to mention a ladder on the Alpha side, and another being possibly thrown on the bravo side at 3:49 yet no vertical ventilation 🤦🏽♂️! Come on guys let’s do a 360 after the fire is out
You see that white stuff coming out of the back of the house? That is an excellent indication that the wet stuff is going on the red stuff.
They got to the seat of the fire from the inside not by going to a window or cutting a hole in the roof or standing in the yard and hitting it hard.
Good initial knockdown, better entry if you get lower on the way in. NEVER...NEVER go in until you have water. Otherwise. That was a good job. Stay safe...NO "I" in the word TEAM.
I can't tell you how many of these I have watched where the guy(s) can't get the screen door out of the way.
Lots can be learned yes. Lots could have been done differently yes. Instead of bashing educate. Help them or others learn so the next video shows a more efficient fire ground. I can just about guarantee every fire ground at every department has a few things that can be improved on.
There was absolutely NO reason to go up to that front door or even open it without that line charged . You put yourself in danger having fire come blowing out that door with no water . This is basic firefighting . I also don’t understand why the chief had guys on that roof at the 9:00 mark . Yea let’s vent the roof when the fires out . Makes sense 🤷🏻♂️
4 guys walk to the front door. not one of them has a handline.......
Instead of everybody running in the front door. Get a few guys to ventilate!!!
I am sure they can't hear you. Speak louder.
Gregory Kushner Looks like they are doing a pretty good job don’t think they need any advice.
Ok, you guys were able to extinguish the fire however, you need to work together a bit better there needs to be a better working relationship with each department drill drill drill!!! Remember to Stay Strong and Stay Safe
Attic fire
Betting kitchen fire, with extension into attic. Makes sense with apparent age of home. And, would probably see more fire from front attic vent if it started in attic.
Never spaces to amaze me how Leo’s get right up in there and do nothing, not even what’s they are supposed to be doing. Just lookin loo’s with a uniform. Good training vid for what cops should not be doing at a fireground!
Just a little paint and it’s good as new. Great job Guys!
Phx G
And patch the hole in the roof!
Steven Phillips since this is an off-grid home, thats a sky light!
this was a fire, of things NOT to do on a fire scene. Still haven't figured out why putting a hole in the roof when the fire is out. We should always try and cause minimal damage as much as possible, why bust a window when you can set up a fan at the front door. Never enter a structure without a hose line being charged, Always look at ALL your surroundings. This department needs more training, alot of mistakes. No matter how small the fire is, anything can happen.
great job and quick knock down but one thing I don't understand is why vent the roof after the fire is out. The fire was out, little or no smoke and the eve vents on the house were gone. just open the windows with a exhaust fan in the door would have been good enough by the time they vented the roof. Yes I know why you vent the roof being a firefighter for 20+ years but there was no reason to vent the roof in this case in my opinion.
I always was breathing air right when I got off that truck
what a hell of a job. kick ass and no names.💦👨🚒
Is this the fire department sumu wrestling team?
I hope those two FF on the front porch eventually popped back into existence...😃😉 . Great job by the way on the quick knock down. Hope everyone was safe.
Wow this is my first time seeing this video this was a great picture to watch 😮💯
Quick response, quick knockdown! You guys are awesome!👍👍👍