The Buccaneers are the Best Team Nobody Talks About
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0:00 Drink up me hearties!
4:59 Reflecting on 2023
15:38 Scheme Breakdown
30:24 Front Office and Staff Breakdown
38:15 So who should you actually draft?
42:14 Free Agency Losses and Gains
53:47 The other Bucs rookies
1:03:57 Summary and Season Predictions
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Feel like we don't talk enough about how Lavonte David, Luke Kuechly, and Bobby Wagner all came from the same draft class. Alongside Demario Davis and Dont'a Hightower. And Brandon Marshall and Danny Trevathan, the starting linebackers for the Broncos' 2015 Super Bowl team. Even past them, Zach Brown and Vontaze Burfict each had Pro Bowl seasons.
2012 was a phenomenal year for LB prospects.
I'd argue it's the greatest LB draft class of all time and its not particularly close top to bottom
@@video_game_royal4797agreed. A close second might be 07-08. Pat Willis, David Harris, Jon Beason, Paul Puz, and I probably forgot some players.
@@zackhurwitz9441 I was pissed when the Ravens took Ben Grubbs over Puz. Imagine Puz and Ray Lewis on the same defense.
I wish you guys put back in the percentages of different route concepts ran, run concepts, down and distance, defensive coverage percentage, blitz percentage. Maybe add it back next year. For the people that know football it’s a good digestible amount of information. Don’t listen to the small brain folks who can’t digest simple football information.
Maybe they could do one for episode for the smoothies and one for us rough brained stat nerds after like bucs ep drops then the stat ep follows it type thing maybe 10 min ep at max is imagine
@@2xAcTiOnXJaCkS0nx I like that idea. Doesn’t have to be a long episode. A short one just to give us the info.
@@adambarran seriously its a game changer
That scheme info also gives us an idea what role each player has in the offense. That insight was of great value for fantasy.
I think it's just A LOT of work for them to do that for all 32 teams... These guys tend to be busy all year
The disrespect 😂 couldn’t even cover it up. Bucs day with a saints hoodie is wild
At least blur the hoodie, or something
Jason licht one of the most underrated GMs in the league
Facts
Mos Def. I don't know how the hell he convinces Lavont David or Jamel Dean to stay on this team 😂
I distinctly recall this fanbase screeching about trusting the system all the way until he makes a pick people liked, and then the fanbase collectively congratulating him for not screwing up and saying he doesn't have to sleep on the couch.
The coping Tampa fans have with Licht is absurd. His ability to find good picks late is usually above average, his early round picks are usually abysmal. He has done a good job keeping FAs, but been worse knowing when to let people walk/trade/shake things up.
Could be worse, but not a huge fan, and the watching the reactions of Tampa fans this last draft was very telling to how people actually feel but won't admit
"Who doesn't love Mike Alstott?" that is a much deeper question than you think.
Alstott was a beast... Squat 600+ like it was warm up at Purdue weight room while I was there.
It is, indeed, quite revealing of the character of a person.
Or maybe we're just extra appreciative of the True Fullback.
@@kenbutton6706 Gruden didnt like Mike Alstott
You guys ignoring the fact that they literally PUNKED the Chiefs in the SUPERBOWL back in 2020 is corny.
@@brandongagnon9362except that they were discussing ‘23 & the upcoming season, so…
Lavonte David actually heavily considered retirement this off-season so I'm personally preparing for this season to be his last and i think alot of bucs fans are
he shouldn't hes a top linebacker still, he could easily go another 2 years maybe 3
@@nunya6747 i don't think he wants to play until he can't run anymore
I think Canales gets way more credit then deserved
When all is said and done Mike, Lavonte, and Antoine will be in the HOF
Mike has already been measured for a jacket, the bust has been commissioned. Im a Lions fan and this is just a fact I wont argue 8>D
Wirfs is on his way too.
@@Travis89-ob5tt100%
Our best pass rushers last year were a nose tackle a middle linebacker and a free safety 💀💀💀
Yaya Diaby had 7.5 sacks last year. Look for him to have a double digit sack season.
I believe they were top 5 with 48 as a team, so opposing teams can't focus blocking any one, two, or three defender. The pressure comes from everywhere. Helped when they had a lead.
@@robertgallagher3293 his down to down consistenty was bad, no reason to think a talent rookie can't improve on it but he just wasn't giving us anything on a play to play basis
@@robertgallagher3293 as much as I love Yaya he had all his sacks off clean ups and stunts. He’s incredibly talented but his pressures and pass rush win rate were garbage compared to the sack #’s. I’d take half his sacks if he could double those 2 categories next year
a history series where you go through forgotten but elite teams in the past like the early 2000s bucks would be awesome!
I think we gotta wait for the next offseason for this one but I think that’d be a great series. Only reason I say that is after this series is over season will be in full spring
Bucs*
@@Marcelo-nl9ej no id just love for them to talk about basketball for a change! just kidding.
Brad Culpepper is a local lawyer in the Tampa area. And he named his son Judge. How much of a baller move is that? Automatic roster spot.
In terms of the Bucs IOL, they not only lost Ryan Jensen but also Ali Marpet to retirement during 2022. So that is pretty significant and been trying to play catchup since.
My disappointment is gone and my day is made
Baker had a slew of fantastic situational stats (like 3rd down play). He was clutch as hell. Really makes it hard to evaluate the effect of their OC vs the effect of pure talent.
Carlton Davis for most of his career was elite against big slow receivers like hopkins allen and Adams, if he ran a 4.45 he'd probably be a top 5 corner
Perfectly put. I will add though that he has awful, awful hands, even for a DB.
@@blahblah14722 he had the best hands on our defense 🥺🥺
@@blahblah14722 well that goes to Jordan Whitehead now, Lavonte David has like 12 career ints when he should reasonably have like 30 but bro can't even catch a cold 💀💀
@@felixlara2945 yeah our inability to get picks is so frustrating lol even JPP could catch the damn ball over these corners
@@blahblah14722 at least David and Winfield have mastered the peanut punch, although Barrett was also consistently getting 3-4 FF a season
Bucs had to be top 10 in 3rd down conversion. But that doesn’t tell the story. 1st and 2nd down play calling was atrocious for the most part. 3rd and long commonplace. Baker did more for Canales than the other way around. Canales should be a better head coach than OC.
Baker has such a cannon that he can make almost any tight window throw he wants within 10-12 yards. He's gotten so much more accurate, too, that I'm a little offended when people compare his resurgence to Geno. Baker is way more of "the system" than Geno ever was (I am a massive sooner fan so I'm definitely overreacting a bit)
I love the buccaneers so much, one of the most loyal frnachises, we always make fun FA signings, we always have an all time great on the roster keeping games interesting
"Put him in the hall all because he got Johnny Manziel drafted in the first round"
As someone who has been ranting about this since the Browns wasted that pick, THANK YOU!
Finally some Bucs talk. Was really surprised to hear, that you like them a lot, because you rarely talk/post about bucs.
Ive super been missing the more detailed report cards and concept percentage breakdown this year how you guys end up adding it back in at some point
20 years from now When Winfield is putting on his gold jacket we are going to remember 2023 as the greatest season from a safety ever from the greatest safety ever, that's my hot take
I don't think that's true
@@daspletoraptor8366 now you have a right as an American to incorrect opinions but I am not required to entertain or respect them
He's got a long ways to go. See if he can be as consistent as John Lynch. Not even in the class with Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu.
@@someperson8151 neither of those two plays have made as many game changing plays in a single season as AWJ
@@someperson8151 but yes, obviously he has to not die in a plane crash in the next 10 years in order to be a hofer
That fact you own a aints hoodie is wild
Bucs fans got so disrespected that he couldn’t even spend 60 seconds to change his hoodie lol
Has any DB ever made as many game changing plays in one season as Antoine Winfield JR? I mean he directly prevented like 10 Tds with pass deflections run stops pressures and FF, he was involved in like 20 turnovers if you include pass deflections that were picked forced bad throws off pressures and turnover on downs, almost every play he made was on 3rd and 4th down the 4th quarter or yhe redzone, i mean bro was on Demon Time in critcal situations, that's ignoring every big run he cut short and every deep shot qbs didn't take, i can't name a season from Dawkins Reed or Troy that had the same number of critcal plays in critcal situations and i would love to ve proven wrong
1) yes greatest single safety season ever.
2) worst pro bowl snub in the history of the United States. Fucking budda baker got in over him. No hate to budda but like bruh
3) Every single week last year, Whitehead (jets) or Edwards (chiefs) or Winfield (bucs) were making genuine game changing plays. The 2020 bucs safety room was fucking NUTS
The last time Mike evans went under 1000 yards in a season it was while attending a texas highschool, he caught like all 10 passes they threw tho
Just subscribed to you guys. I love it you guys broke EVERYTHING down did the research and weren't just saying surface level shit like " canales left so that means bucs will regress" Keep up the great work!
Brett and EJ being shocked at how long a coach has been coaching is my new favourite football niche.
When I was like 4 or 5 years old, my preschool class was chanting “Let’s go Buccs, let’s go Buccs!” I didn’t understand, so I started chanting “Firetruck! Firetruck!” So… yeah, Firetruck boys!
Bucs*
Not funny
@marcelo...
Buccas*
You must be fun at parties @@Kevin-ws6bl
"You're in good hands with Alstott"
Letting Carlton go is going to hurt us big time.
I’ve had Tet McMillan on my CFF team since he was a true freshman (2-man keeper league). Sad I’m gonna have to find another stud WR to fill that role after this season.
Also worth pointing out that Baker let it slip that the offensive changes were, once again, being forced by Bowles. Canales was just as stubborn as Leftwich
Loving every episode of the “guys naming dudes” series, you guys are killing it!
12:40 This is what I was screaming at my tv all season "run outside the tackles because inside aint working
I know this is y’all’s job to know this and I’m sure you do just as well as I do but the reason the bucs blitzed sm. It wasn’t because Bowles was stubborn (although he is), it was because our 4 man rush was so inept it made us just as, if not more vulnerable in coverage as blitzing an extra was
Here for the golden nuggets of info these two men drop.
This Training Camp is going to be fun to watch. Licht has really been good recently with the draft. Baker is the man. I love that he plays like a linebacker. He puts his head down and stiff arms linebackers and safeties. He has no fear.
That Dline during the superbowl run and the year after is why Bowles could be confident to sit back and let the dawgsss up front eat. JPP Vea Suh Barret were on fire and in snyc. I feel this year will be a close rendition of that DLine. With how good kancey and Diaby looked in the final games of the season and playoffs.
It's all about Baker. If Tampa gets the 2018/2020/2023 version of Baker, they'll probably be pretty good. If they get the 2019/2021/2022 version, they won't be.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - one of the most volatile team histories in the league. A 1976 expansion laughingstock that was mostly terrible for 20 years, then in the late 90's they catch a heater and go to the playoffs a bunch and win it all in 2002, then rapidly drop off into obscurity again for over a decade, then pop right back up again on another heater and get Brady and win another in 2020. There are some ancient and storied teams in the NFL that haven't even won ONE superbowl (Minnesota) and Tampa has 2. Their swings from awful to great and back and forth are certainly entertaining.
You’re in good hands with Alstott!
EJ on the right side of history (The Bucky Irving debate) you love to hear it 🫡
“We have vita vea F you were running dime”😂😂-Brett Kollman
I have the "A train" bobblehead from the retirement ceremony of mike alstott one of the best to play. Love the shirt EJ
Lavonte david kinda started the trend of smaller LBs Wagner Keuchly Davis and Hightower are all full sized lbs, but most lbs are closer in size to David than Davis now
My prayers have finally been answered
We need a way better running game this year to be first in the division. Last year we got lucky that everyone else was a joke in the division. Now all those teams got better.
No love for the cap wizard Mike Greenberg. But yeah even amongst Bucs fans Licht gets too much hate. He has some big notable draft misses but he has a lot more hits and has been great in the middle rounds. I was thrilled when they extended him
I'm a Bucs fan, and I thought they'd struggle in the rungame last year. But, that didn't mean I thought they'd suck. They had their struggles with a new O.
On D, coach Bowles went into a certain D style mode because a safety we thought would be good didn't work out. Then there's the whole Devin White thing. I think we'll see the real Todd Bowles D this year.
Bucs O might take a while to learn the new O. But, both the new O-Coordinator and Baker Mayfield have dived into the playbook earlier. So, I don't think it'll take them that long to get the O going. But, there might be a game or two early that the O is not clicking on all cylinders.
Really glad you guys touched on the defensive scheme. The soft coverage last year had me pulling my hair out at times.
The Buccaneers do have some good talent on both sides of the football. It’s mostly depends if Baker Mayfield can show everyone that last season wasn’t a hit wonder.
Here is the thing Alstott could catch the ball very well. Power back who can also lead block and catch the ball? That 100% is a dominate player in the league.
The title may be misleading but it definitely felt like it in 2023. From being written off as a potential draft lottery team to start the season (I know I did). To grinding for the top of the NFC South by the middle of the season. The stretch of winning (easy) games in December were HUGE for them to pull away and punch their ticket to the playoffs. Also good insight by EJ about Liam Coen being on that Rams staff on Baker's short stint there. At the very least Baker will once again have some continuity to help run the offense.
Get ready for some well respected special teams Bucs fans!!
Godwin is going back to the slot and he’s fully healthy. Anyone not drafting him on your fantasy is making a mistake. Keep an eye on Bucky Irvin too. He could be RB1 by week 5.
As a Bucs fan I wish you broke down the coverage problems of Devin white, ryan neal and the consistent secondary issues that DROVE Todd Bowles ultra aggressive blitz rate. Brian Flores and Mike McDonald are both essentially students OF Todd bowles and Belicheck. Except they had infinitely better and more consistent safety play from the duo as a whole.
The Bucs have a lot of really good young talent on rookie contracts. We got a good amount vets too I definitely think their being underrated. Awesome vid man Go Bucs!! 👍
Go look at a chart with Wagner, Kuechly and LVD. David’s stats are way better. Especially at forced fumbles. 6 vs 7 and 28. David should be a 1st Ballot HOF choice. He and Wagner both.
Facts
Disagree about the D scheme. Due to VV struggling to stay healthy and JTS being unmotived with 2 rookies on d-line, bucs had no pressure rating. At all. Actually they really only had 2 players on defense, stars though they were. They don't get sacks, stops, and give up a lot more big play TDs playing a different style.
The Tampa Bakerneers are based, I’m very excited for next season. Will be tough at times but this team has some real potential.
Alstott's the man. Along with Derrick Brooks, Warren Sapp, John Lynch, Ronde Barber, Lavonte David, and Mike Evans. Let's add Tristan Wirfs, Yaya Diaby, Antoine Winfield and Chris Godwin among many others too. LFG BUCS!!! Jalen McMillan is going to be a star.
Baker plays well when he’s slept on
Spent half the video glazing Lavonte David 😂
"We just gotta block it up!" said every team except Philly lmao
34:38 cmon Brett. I’ve been coaching longer than we’ve been to the moon. (I started last year; we never went)
Also good depth at olb
Gang Gang
Oh brother when are yall doing the Bears?!?
Like I like the vids but until I sea the Bears one or any NFC north I’m not as excited yet lol.
Many of these teams aren’t gonna b worth 3 cents but NFC north is gonna b one of the craziest divisions this year and the next couple years. Let’s get to the real action boys 😤😮💨3️⃣3️⃣3️⃣
Ah yes, the Bucs, the team that has taken all the players I wanted the Browns to take instead since 2020...
Imagine alstott on philly now days, or even san fran. He would slay
1:11:18 So now the division will definitely come down to Carolina and New Orleans
I'll give you the comp!!!! But also thx for underrating the buccs once again!!!!
Did they talk about Calijah Kancey? Yall know hes gonna be all pro this year right?
Kings of the NFC South
Still praying that one day Antoine Winfield jr will be a Steelers
Dolphins fan, this is why I wanted baker and they basically copy and pasted Miami's Run game with many of the same passing concepts. Like the Buc but I'll still bet on the falcons talent this season
Todd Bowles is just defensive bruce arians and i fucking love that i love playing football like that and i was so happy when they were hired all my favorite people become bucs Djax Brent Grimes Revis Vincent Jackson that bengals receiving back Richard Sherman Logan Ryan Suh JPP i loved them all before they joined the bucs, oh and Thomas was a pretty decent signing too
I knew both of you would pick against Bucs...what did I say
...all that talk meant diddly squat...go Bucs!
ironic for Brett to say you cant compare people to Lavonte David when he thinks every college player is gonna be a HoFer in draft szn
If you only talk about the last 30 years fine but if you go back to the cream-cicle bucs than YOU'RE INSANE!!
if Barton can open some holes up for White and Bucky Irving, Bucs run game should be solid. it all depends on Graham Barton and how he works as a center in the league. i thought they should have shown Evans the door and used that money to go after a punishing rb like Derrick Henry, but Jason Licht sees something in Irving that i don't, and he's the GM, not some douche on his computer in central Oklahoma.
Mike Evans is first ballot HoF. I'm not even a bucs fan but that dude is the next best to Megatron in the league. And consistent AF
I’ve got to disagree with your assessment of how Bucs fans feel about Cohn. The fans think Cohn is an upgrade at OC. They also think that it should be a pretty smooth transition because of similar coaching schemes. Same goes for OL, TE and run and pass game coordinators.
Where’s my Buccaneers?
Under my Bucken hat !
Alstott needs to be in the HOF
Regarding their Effectiveness Summary - this is the final NFC South team, and after the strange stats coming out of Atlanta and the Saints, maybe we're seeing a bit of a pattern here? The NFC South teams each played 6 games vs. the rest of the NFC South which was awful, so their defensive and offensive stats seem to misrepresent how bad they are, because they played a lot of bad teams (each other).
Kalen deloach will be the other starting ILB next to Lavonte
I will bet any amount of money that we will not get a Falcons Bucs playoff game
Wow bucs I would definitely feel disrespected guy om the right wearing the bucs hoodie hahah
So , if Todd's D doesn't have a counterpunch for the blitz
package it will remain the same outcome thus season...
wide open throws in mid field until opposition reaches
redzone...this cannot happen with this monster offense...
Todd will be exposed by our own OC first few preseason games...
My bucs lost more than gain in free agency the draft was ok at best jalen and bucky were the diamonds in the rough. If they pull it off this year its because baker and bowels did work.
Think about this, mike evans and odell was in the same draft
Wow 12 winS!?
Alstott Brooks Sapp Barber Rice Lynch Dunn! Bucs were smash mouth football in the most physical era!
My troll comment. Lol I TRIED 5 TIMES TO MAKE THE SAME FOREHEAD SLAP SOUND that happened at 48:32 and I CANT DO IT!!!!! like how did that man get a PERFECT DAB against his own forehead?!?!?!?!?! Someone explain
In more testing. I got the load dab and yes I have a concussion now ;) but like I CANT GET THE LOW END OF IT! the man got the PERFECT FULL SOUND BEST HIGH FIVE on his God damn forehead and I just can't. Lol imma need someone to tell me or show me how cus this is crazy. Sorry to get on a tangent about a forehead slap LOL
Tampa won the division on a tie breaker! Saints and Bucs are even then and still even. Tampa was a good team. They won a playoff game. Baker has always been good
Eat your heart out, Cleveland. You had your guy, and it STILL wasn’t good enough for you.
Bucs getting some love RAHHHHH
Why has no one tried to flip devin white to a 3-4 outside linebacker???