Totally agree with your description of art. We went to an art museum with my daughter who needed to do a quick report on an exhibition called Paris lights. We couldn’t find it. An employee took us to the exhibit. A string of Paris type light hung from the ceiling and coiled on the floor. We thought it was an area under construction but it was the finished exhibit. I asked the employee what is this? She said the beauty of the exhibit is that the curator can arrange the lights any way they want. And that… was called art. 😂
If it's not art then I don't know what it is. For some of us that enjoy converting DC locomotives to ESU LokSound locomotives, plus adding details like grab irons, sun visors, rear view mirrors, wind protectors, MU hoses, air hoses, plows, ditch lights (still trying to figure that one out), weathering, adding unique paint patches to match the prototype...I run modern BNSF in N Scale. I cannot have a new, out of the box locomotive. I'm allergic to those. I research the heck out of my locomotives, download a bunch of photos then try to match my model to the prototype as much as I possibly can. I haven't built my layout yet (still trying to buy a house in the crazy New England real state market), but I sure do enjoy ubber-detailing my locomotives. Oh yeah, did I mention speed matching and using advanced consist? I can understand how some folks that buy their model trains and just run them in a Kato Uni-track may be seen as just adults playing with toy trains - and there's nothing wrong with that as people can do whatever they want with their money. But some of us that can't stand a brand new looking locomotive and decide to add detail to match a prototype, I'd say that's not only art, but as you said it very well, it's more than that since we have to have many skills to make that N Scale locomotive look and behave like the real deal.
There is definitely an art to the DCC side. the installation, the programming, all of it is a complete passion for perfection. the realistic operation and sounds take a otherwise run of the mill loco and turns it into moving art - then comes the details and the weathering for the final masterpiece!
I agree on everything that you said on this matter !! Art is what you make of it. It is also in the eye of the beholder. 😁 That is why I love this hobby 👍 !!!
Hi C Mastracci , I have always liked to draw and design things. I started to go to college to be an architect but I decided not for me. That was along time ago. But I do enjoy seeing something in my head and putting it on paper. I see rivers , lakes , bridges , and forest and try to apply them to the layout. Yea when you come right down to it it’s a form of ART ! Thanks for sharing. Have a good weekend. 😎😎 👍
Almost went into architecture - then engineering - then realized it was more lucrative to be the builder and bitch about the other two! :) We're definitely artists - no two ways about it. Enjoy!
there's a lot of opinions on art for sure. i'm by no means a connoisseur and i'm constantly amused by paintings and sculptures i would pass in a thrift store selling for millions at auction. now, a good train show sale... i may not know art, but i know what i like LOL!
A person can put artistic parts in most things you just have to have the eye and look for it. An example is a train control or layout panel. Some just have the control just sitting. Then some build whole rooms and create the look of the real center all together. The art aspect just doesn't stop at scenery. It can go to bench work design. Track design, structure design , rolling stock , wiring , lighting, and etc. The people heavily invested probably know this , but outside people just think its running cheap train sets round and round. Their clueless to what we really do and i keep them separated in my life from it.
Exactly. And that goes into exactly why when I'm preparing the layout for visitors, i don't spend too much time worrying about prototype conditions - i just want to get the layout clean and functional because most folks won't appreciate the detailed nuances us modelers do. kids just want to see trains move, adults want to see trains move and marvel at the scenery. no one cares or knows if the locomotives running together are era-correct or how the DCC system is handling the sounds and motion. This side of the art is left for the "in-crowd" to know and enjoy.
So true! Models direct from the box to the layout sure have come a long way - from the details to the drive mechanisms and sound. The attention to small details is amazing from some of the manufacturers.
IMHO I think, the majority of us want our layout to reflect real life in miniature. We who model N scale have some disadvanges painting figures to create seens that tell a story. Color makes your eyes move to lead you on. FYI I like super trees but found at Hobby Lobby like material in the dried floral section. A lot of time they discount 40% and they are not bent like super trees.
painting n scale figures is majorly rough. not much facial expressions to paint either! I check out the floral section every now and then but it seems my local michaels and hobby lobby don't carry some of the nice finds others have for making trees. super trees do have a lot of curved and bent pieces - still get a lot for n scale but i could see it being very costly in larger scales with the number of unusable pieces.
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I’ve honestly never thought of it the way you describe the art of model railroading and honestly now it’s opens up a whole new perspective of it
Totally agree with your description of art. We went to an art museum with my daughter who needed to do a quick report on an exhibition called Paris lights. We couldn’t find it. An employee took us to the exhibit. A string of Paris type light hung from the ceiling and coiled on the floor. We thought it was an area under construction but it was the finished exhibit. I asked the employee what is this? She said the beauty of the exhibit is that the curator can arrange the lights any way they want. And that… was called art. 😂
WOW... there's a prime example. We're far more creative than a string of lights LOL!
It's absolutely art. I have to admit I really never thought of it but yes it definitely is.
If it's not art then I don't know what it is. For some of us that enjoy converting DC locomotives to ESU LokSound locomotives, plus adding details like grab irons, sun visors, rear view mirrors, wind protectors, MU hoses, air hoses, plows, ditch lights (still trying to figure that one out), weathering, adding unique paint patches to match the prototype...I run modern BNSF in N Scale. I cannot have a new, out of the box locomotive. I'm allergic to those. I research the heck out of my locomotives, download a bunch of photos then try to match my model to the prototype as much as I possibly can. I haven't built my layout yet (still trying to buy a house in the crazy New England real state market), but I sure do enjoy ubber-detailing my locomotives. Oh yeah, did I mention speed matching and using advanced consist? I can understand how some folks that buy their model trains and just run them in a Kato Uni-track may be seen as just adults playing with toy trains - and there's nothing wrong with that as people can do whatever they want with their money. But some of us that can't stand a brand new looking locomotive and decide to add detail to match a prototype, I'd say that's not only art, but as you said it very well, it's more than that since we have to have many skills to make that N Scale locomotive look and behave like the real deal.
There is definitely an art to the DCC side. the installation, the programming, all of it is a complete passion for perfection. the realistic operation and sounds take a otherwise run of the mill loco and turns it into moving art - then comes the details and the weathering for the final masterpiece!
I agree on everything that you said on this matter !! Art is what you make of it. It is also in the eye of the beholder. 😁 That is why I love this hobby 👍 !!!
if it evokes a response, especially an emotional one, it's art.
Hi C Mastracci , I have always liked to draw and design things. I started to go to college to be an architect but I decided not for me. That was along time ago. But I do enjoy seeing something in my head and putting it on paper. I see rivers , lakes , bridges , and forest and try to apply them to the layout. Yea when you come right down to it it’s a form of ART ! Thanks for sharing. Have a good weekend. 😎😎 👍
Almost went into architecture - then engineering - then realized it was more lucrative to be the builder and bitch about the other two! :) We're definitely artists - no two ways about it. Enjoy!
It's entertaining to see how spirited people become when you ask the 'what is art' question. Nice video!
there's a lot of opinions on art for sure. i'm by no means a connoisseur and i'm constantly amused by paintings and sculptures i would pass in a thrift store selling for millions at auction. now, a good train show sale... i may not know art, but i know what i like LOL!
I always saw as MRR as 3D, animated art. Great video!
that's exactly what it is!
A person can put artistic parts in most things you just have to have the eye and look for it. An example is a train control or layout panel. Some just have the control just sitting. Then some build whole rooms and create the look of the real center all together. The art aspect just doesn't stop at scenery. It can go to bench work design. Track design, structure design , rolling stock , wiring , lighting, and etc. The people heavily invested probably know this , but outside people just think its running cheap train sets round and round. Their clueless to what we really do and i keep them separated in my life from it.
Exactly. And that goes into exactly why when I'm preparing the layout for visitors, i don't spend too much time worrying about prototype conditions - i just want to get the layout clean and functional because most folks won't appreciate the detailed nuances us modelers do. kids just want to see trains move, adults want to see trains move and marvel at the scenery. no one cares or knows if the locomotives running together are era-correct or how the DCC system is handling the sounds and motion. This side of the art is left for the "in-crowd" to know and enjoy.
awesome layout
Thanks!
Scenics Art is what we do for theater. there are scene shops that make for Broadway, from steel work, carpentry ,lighting ,automation and painting
ART IS WHAT WE DO,,,,,ROGER SIMMONS ,,,ARTIST ,,painter and model railroader
Agree with you 💯👍🏽
You forgot to mention some of the manufacturers that are producing works of art. Case in point that BigBoy circulating around your layout.
So true! Models direct from the box to the layout sure have come a long way - from the details to the drive mechanisms and sound. The attention to small details is amazing from some of the manufacturers.
IMHO I think, the majority of us want our layout to reflect real life in miniature. We who model N scale have some disadvanges painting figures to create seens that tell a story. Color makes your eyes move to lead you on. FYI I like super trees but found at Hobby Lobby like material in the dried floral section. A lot of time they discount 40% and they are not bent like super trees.
painting n scale figures is majorly rough. not much facial expressions to paint either! I check out the floral section every now and then but it seems my local michaels and hobby lobby don't carry some of the nice finds others have for making trees. super trees do have a lot of curved and bent pieces - still get a lot for n scale but i could see it being very costly in larger scales with the number of unusable pieces.
@@AlleghenyNorthern On painting I use a needle to move a spot of paint on the figure. First I air brush the figures on the sprue with flesh color. To add depth on the face I use an oil wash just a drop. On super trees I soak them in matte medium hang them upside down on a wire clothes line with a self closing tweezers.
What was the panel for near the end of the hood over the bogie
i'm not sure what you saw, what's the time code?
Just wanted to let you know that your (musical) introductory part of this video is too long.
feel free to use the seek command on the video if you don't want to watch the trains.
come on guy drooping leds ruin your video