How the Soviet/Afghan War Changed Pakistan's History Ft. Salman Javed | EP194

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  • Today, we shed light on the war that created Pakistan’s military deep state with our guest, Mr. Salman Javed, Director of the Pak-Afghan Youth Forum. In this episode, we discuss the historical issues of the Soviet-Afghan war and Pak-Afghan relations.
    We explore Russia's initial alliance with Afghanistan, the significance of the Durand Line, and the deterioration of Russian-Afghan relations. We also discuss the conflict between Islam and communism, the proxy war between Pakistan and Afghanistan, and the role of religion in this context. Discover how Zia-ul-Haq used the Afghan war to bolster Pakistan's military, the birth of the military deep state, and modern-day relations between Russia and Afghanistan.
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    00:00 Highlights
    01:56 Why Russia wanted an alliance with Afghanistan
    05:08 The Great Game: British vs. Russia
    07:40 The Durand Line
    13:58 Deterioration of Russia-Afghanistan Relations
    17:07 Islam vs. Communism
    25:00 Proxy War: Pakistan and Afghanistan
    34:20 Role of Religion
    36:27 Zia-ul-Haq’s Use of the Afghan War
    42:45 The Rise of Islamization in Pakistan
    44:56 Birth of the Military Deep State
    49:35 Maintaining Relations with China
    59:53 Modern-Day Russia-Afghanistan Relations
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ความคิดเห็น • 104

  • @shatnermohanty6678
    @shatnermohanty6678 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    After the Soviet Afghan war ended , pakistan decided to use Strategic Depth on it's western neighbour and Unconventional Warfare on it's Eastern neighbour .
    You Reap what you Sow

    • @zv8135
      @zv8135 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And your country is a pre genocidal state, wonder how that will effect your economic aims 🤔 😂
      you reap, what you sow

  • @thomashunter5645
    @thomashunter5645 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Pakistan is lucky to have wise and honest military people. They have safely invested Pakistani money in Papa John's pizza franchise, real estate in Canada, London, Dubai, and an island near Australia. Long live the Pakistani Establishment.

    • @xijinping9024
      @xijinping9024 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      😂 the irony is pakistan is dealing with two sector.
      Eastern sector which is india and western sector which Afghanistan 😂

    • @abdalazizariff5154
      @abdalazizariff5154 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      EVERY COUNTRY HAS AN ARMY, PAKISTAN ARMY HAS A COUNTRY.

    • @Aman-jh7pz
      @Aman-jh7pz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂😂🤣🤣

    • @SuryanarayanaJagarlapudi
      @SuryanarayanaJagarlapudi 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thus, Pakistan is rich, thanks to its Army.

  • @AHOXA_
    @AHOXA_ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is an excellent program to counter vicious and venomous Indian propaganda. We need more of such programs.

  • @jibranbaloch7650
    @jibranbaloch7650 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Pakistanis live in a bubble history created by their own military establishment.
    This guest trying to say ME created during Afghan Soviet war which is completely wrong. It was developed by British Colony.

    • @GuzzarAwan
      @GuzzarAwan 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The guy and the podcast both r paid and run by ME. What do u expect 😂

  • @shayanmahmud6832
    @shayanmahmud6832 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Let us know if you enjoyed this content 🙏

    • @prathipgowda
      @prathipgowda 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Madarsa chaap content

    • @prathipgowda
      @prathipgowda 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      2 trillion dollars😂😂😂

    • @Aman-jh7pz
      @Aman-jh7pz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@prathipgowda 🤣😂🤣

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@prathipgowda those are jannati dollars not US Dollars - Jannati Dollars are earned by being pious - Pak GDP in Jannati dollars is Hundred Trillion per day

    • @shinysteel101
      @shinysteel101 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In Urdu please.

  • @user-wg6ic9hf4i
    @user-wg6ic9hf4i 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Pakistani mind set..bhagat singh was tha but iqbal the... And they t asking why others hate then

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bhai Aurangzeb ka naam lene ke bad rehmat-ul-alay kehte hain kai piecefuls - ap puri cheez samjho - itni zara si bat pe hairani hai apko to agey kya hoga

    • @sahilkatoch6272
      @sahilkatoch6272 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      aur mahjabi sikh lun choste hai inn logo ka

  • @sanamir160
    @sanamir160 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    Afghanistan official father of Pakistan 😎💪😈

  • @harshvardhan3044
    @harshvardhan3044 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    China ki gdp 18 trillion dollar hai, us millitary budget 900 billion dollar hai, china 300 billion dollar Aur ye janab pakistan ki military budget 2 trillion dollar se badha rahe hain....waah re world affairs expert ..lol😁😁😁

    • @Aman-jh7pz
      @Aman-jh7pz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂🤣🤣

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      those are jannati dollars not US Dollars - Jannati Dollars are earned by being pious - Pak GDP in Jannati dollars is Hundred Trillion per day

    • @GuzzarAwan
      @GuzzarAwan 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think he meant to say Trillion PKR not dollars.

    • @Mianaly20
      @Mianaly20 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Slip of tongue he
      The budget he is quoting is right in rupees.

  • @ahmernaseer3359
    @ahmernaseer3359 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great Analysis

  • @iqranaseer1837
    @iqranaseer1837 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It was shocking for me to learn that they didn't accepted Pakistan...

    • @Mianaly20
      @Mianaly20 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yes.
      It was Afghanistan who were doing dirty stuff in the start and pain in the ass so finally Pakistan decided to interfere in Afghanistan giving the same treatment to control their attacks and have influence in Afghanistan
      At first pak had no interest in war lord society bcz it was useless
      Pak was focused on indian front.
      Afghanistan pe check n balance rakhna pak ki majbori ban gya kyun ke yeh continues attacks aur problem create krte thy.

  • @harshasai8040
    @harshasai8040 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    58:16 Bhai trillions nahi billions ya millions hoga 😂😅 USA ka defence budget hi 700 billions dollars he aur aap pakistan ki trillion dollars me baat kar rahe ho

    • @missingdog-princess
      @missingdog-princess 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Exactly😂😂
      These clowns seriously.😂

    • @emperor615
      @emperor615 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Umerr
      @Umerr 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      LMFAO what a clown.

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      those are jannati dollars not US Dollars - Jannati Dollars are earned by being pious - Pak GDP in Jannati dollars is Hundred Trillion per day

  • @vedantsharma4709
    @vedantsharma4709 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Talk about Unknown Gunmen

  • @saifuddin7187
    @saifuddin7187 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    MashaAllah the guest reporter has a lot attentic information regarding this region

  • @quddusquddus136
    @quddusquddus136 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Correction. The Afghan war didn't create Pakistan's deep state. Pakistan military state was present at the creation in 1947. The war fortified the military state. This is a Jihadi state within a state. The Jihadi state is a state of its own with its own economic sector. Military generals ensure that soldiers of Punjab are well-fed. They are paid by the American tax-payers via lenders from the I.M.F. They are not accountable to anyone except to the Americans. If push comes to shove, all the military generals defeated in all wars could be obliterated via drone strikes. Thanks to Artificial Intelligence. Hope lies with the A.I. Not in the Junkyard created for the degenerates now dwelling in Punjab.

    • @abdalazizariff5154
      @abdalazizariff5154 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      100 % CORRECT.IF YOU TAKE A LOOK OF A PICTURE OF THE FATHER OF THE NATION WITH AYUB KHAN-HE REALIZED DIRTY SCHEME FROM AUYB KHAN.

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      AI drones? When USA didn't punish OBL perfidy, why would they neutralize assets now - a compromised asset is the best asset because you can do proper carrot and stick with him - USA foreign policy is run by a state deeper than what pak deep state can ever hope to be. China has the stick, but all the carrots are in USA and Canada, even Chinese carrots, if you get my drift.

  • @SuryanarayanaJagarlapudi
    @SuryanarayanaJagarlapudi 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    These two made lt clear that things can never be normal between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

  • @nowie4007
    @nowie4007 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good analysis ❤❤❤

  • @mjiqbal810
    @mjiqbal810 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Except the budget numbers at the end, very informative discussion. Salman Javed looks well prepared and well read. Keep it up and spread the knowledge as knowledge/information is the power. There should not be a hate between Afghanistan and Pakistan, but people should know the past to understand present.

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Allah apki ghalatfehmi barqrar rakhey

  • @munibarakb28
    @munibarakb28 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I corrected my several historical facts through this podcast. A gem of a podcast. And it's too revealing that Faqir of happi that corporated insurgencies in Pakistan have a road after his name..

  • @khalidsardar1098
    @khalidsardar1098 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    بہت اچھا معلوماتی پوڈ کاسٹ ویل ڈن❤

  • @sahilkatoch6272
    @sahilkatoch6272 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    BHAI MERE PAKISTAN NEVER GOT INDEPENDENCE RATHER IT WAS BRON ON 15TH AUGUST 1947...BUT LATER YOU GUYS CHANGED THE DATE TO 14TH AUGUST

  • @qintarahmad6062
    @qintarahmad6062 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Trillion dollars????

    • @prathipgowda
      @prathipgowda 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeh sab madarsa chaap hai 😂😂😂

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      those are jannati dollars not US Dollars - Jannati Dollars are earned by being pious - Pak GDP in Jannati dollars is Hundred Trillion per day

  • @nizamuddin667
    @nizamuddin667 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To correct you, the budget is not in trillion dollars it's in billion dollars. Wesy , Bhai you are doing amazing work. I watch your program like people watch Money heist with full of Zeist.

  • @TheDoc4kids
    @TheDoc4kids 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    An erudite and cogent exposition, indeed !

  • @silentlatif
    @silentlatif วันที่ผ่านมา

    A good podcast except for it must be summed up within 45 minutes, ideally.

  • @idreeskhan2360
    @idreeskhan2360 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thing more pl...if killer of liaqat Ali Khan was an afghan then question arises as to why his family was allowed to stay in abbottabad sir! Pl confirm your views before sitting before camera. Regards. Asar ahmadzay

  • @sayabkhalid6378
    @sayabkhalid6378 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi dear shayan want to talk with from kotli ajk

  • @idreeskhan2360
    @idreeskhan2360 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice talk. Debacle in religion realm has always been a phenomenon of oscillation. Remember I m saying religion, not Deen. It has been fuelled by power factor, engineered through Concept of Hegemony . Early rift between caliphates after conquest of Mecca sowed the seed of discontent which later reshaped in forms of Umayyads and Abbassids that gave rise to academic understanding of Islam, resulting in Tafaseer and traditionalist Muslim hood emerged out of this chaotic scholastics. All this journey did affect other countries and afghan pakhtuns were not an exception. The speaker to my comprehension of the embraglio has not attached any relevance of this issue to religion and its political role. KSA , being a proxy actor for US has in connivance with gulf shores states did try to transport their version of otherwise pro human and peace loving Deen of Islam which gave impetus to sectarianism and anarchy reigned supreme. The discussion seems revolving around the same stereotype approach as coined by Punjab based intelligentsia that left over the pertinent subject of sovereignty. Then the traditional mindset promoter I mean Mullaism , rise of madrassah culture , role of proxies, dollars game nurtured by Ji and Jui with modern version in shape of Imran Khan etc are missing. Governance model of Pakistan too need a turbulent Afghanistan as pak economy is mainly run by small provinces resources of KP and Baluchistan. Whatever, new generation is now convinced that wise sermons by legendary peace paragon Bacha Khan baba and statesman wali Khan were not mere flowery of words rather fact is that afghans pakhtuns are yet to be accommodated and unless Punjab based intelligentsia changes its outlook vis a vis geographical realities , situation will remain to surprise and shock all and sundry. Role of traditionalist mullas also will hv to confirm itself to Holy Quran Majeed and not Umayyads -Abvassids inspired religious doctrines. Regards. Asar ahmadzay

  • @danydany3974
    @danydany3974 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi, I don't quite agree with you that Pakistan ko pata nahi tha.They knew what was coming may be at very last minute informed by the American.They wouldn't have taken risk to be shot down.
    Laden Kha hai ye to core commander ko bhi pata nahi ho ga.
    So yes, American informed this at the very last moment.Had they not had a good chance of getting shot.

  • @n2201
    @n2201 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No blame to Ayub and the military at that time?

  • @dromprakashmodi2901
    @dromprakashmodi2901 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    please go through the Peshawar conspiracy case & khilafat movement in those years almost at the time of lenin's death. WIKIPEDIA
    mujaffar Ahmad & shoukat Usmani

  • @Salman-pw4hl
    @Salman-pw4hl 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    😮😮

  • @AmitrossyNegu
    @AmitrossyNegu 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    British India nay nahi azim momin shaib Sikh Empire nay leya tha

  • @missingdog-princess
    @missingdog-princess 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    58:40 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @emperor615
      @emperor615 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @prathipgowda
      @prathipgowda 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Aur 1 billion ke liye imf ke saamne Lett jaate hai 😂😂😂

    • @prathipgowda
      @prathipgowda 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Host be madarsa chaap hai kuch study karke nahi aata hai 😂😂😂

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      those are jannati dollars not US Dollars - Jannati Dollars are earned by being pious - Pak GDP in Jannati dollars is Hundred Trillion per day

  • @tariqumer4699
    @tariqumer4699 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sorry shayan, your guest talks haphazard, shifts his talk from North Pole to south pole,

  • @VickyNaveen92
    @VickyNaveen92 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    58:05 😝🤑2 trillion dollar paistan army ka defence budget 😋😋pakistan ki gdp ka bhi 8 guna ho gya tumhein billion or trillion m pta nhi to bhikri to bnoghe hi

  • @tilakmahto8179
    @tilakmahto8179 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent explanation by Prof Saab. Never heard him so enthusiastically

  • @tahirattaique6569
    @tahirattaique6569 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This guest does not know NAP and don't mention wali Khan. Gaps in his talk. Very selective. Misses facts.

  • @shinysteel101
    @shinysteel101 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why dont you speak in Urdu? The national language!

  • @comedynight2409
    @comedynight2409 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pakistan satelite state China

    • @nowie4007
      @nowie4007 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pakistan China se phle wajood me Aya hai Bewakoof

  • @aghawaseem3793
    @aghawaseem3793 วันที่ผ่านมา

    th-cam.com/video/sqM0dUAQggQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @jibranbaloch7650
    @jibranbaloch7650 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lies lies

  • @Kasamejo
    @Kasamejo 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bullshit