Don’t forget all the jobs that force you to go to a different website and create an account you’ll only use once, only to fill out the same information you would’ve on the job search site.
Not to mention, creating that account will open you up to scam e-mails from fake job offers for the following year, which is how long it takes for those sites to delete your unused account.
@@LamanKnightthat part. Most of the time you don’t realize until it’s too late that you weren’t even actually applying for a job, but signing up for yet another job recruiting website that’s going to waste your time time clog up your email.
So f**king annoying. I was 50 minutes into a vague personality questionnaire I was only halfway through for a bank teller job that paid $1.20/HR more than minimum wage and just was done. It should not take hours just to apply to a place. Interview me.
@blueatoms2107There are days I daydream about something happening that would make people tell the actual truth. Imagine everyone on the planet suddenly being 100% honest. It would be chaos, but one I would love to witness, at least temporarily.
They expect you to keep doing that after you get the job too. The people who get promoted are the ones who do the most shameless self promotion and make it seem like they're the smartest, hardest working employees.
As an autistic woman, discovering that employers *want* to be "lied" to was shocking. But alas, I started to ace all my job interviews, even the ones for which I had no qualification at all. I believed they'd appreciate honesty so that everyone involved wouldn't lose their time, but no, because they Will also lie to you, so...
Ancient China had a similar system at one time. If you wanted a government job you had to write poetry. If the official liked your poem you got the job. Not only was the whole thing subjective, but is a poet automatically a good accountant or floor scrubber?
Oh, they do a hellofa lot more than that. Once they narrow their search down to their version of the top three candidates, they run a three in one report with emphasis on credit check. What they are looking for is the person with enough debt to keep them working for the company after they realize it is a shit job, but not bad enough to where they could be a risk. Bonus points for the US tying health insurance to employment and allowing employers to force you to wait up to 90 days for those sweet insurance benefits to kick in. What that does is force people to keep working for a company they hate in fear of losing health insurance for even 30 days. Welcome to the new and improved modern slavery 🙂
@@Zebulization Literally doesn't matter. Random people walked into random jobs all the time and just learned on the job. Now corporations don't want to pay for that. They don't want to pay for anything. They just want to take the country's resources.
For some jobs, this is impossible. But for many others, showing your personal projects gets you an interview. We are used to thinking about this from creatives who have a portfolio or they exhibited in a fashion/art show. But for other industries, this is whatever body of work shows off your skills ( Idk about spreadsheets and reports ppl). Look at job listings to see which skills will "hit" and do projects with those so you can put them on bios about yourself. Bonus points if you can turn your personal projects into your job via social media. ;-)
I think much of the job market actually looks for educated idiots. Corporations do not treat their workers right, they make little effort to retain their best workers, and then they wonder why they end up going bankrupt.
Actual conversation I've been having with a recruiter. 28 Aug: "would you like to interview this week?" "Yes." "Great, I'll get back to you with an appointment" 20 Sep: "Are you still interested in the job?" "Yes." "Great, I'll forward your resume to the hiring officer" 1 Nov: "Are you still interested in the job?" "Yes." "We weren't sure if we were going to fill this position. Can you interview this week?" "Yes." "Great, I'll get back to you with an appointment" Still waiting on that appointment time.
@@kingscrump best piece of advice I've received in my job hunt is don't stop until you've signed an offer. Thankfully this is not the only iron I have in the fire.
Companies should be legally required, at minimum, to notify you if the position is filled. Not even letting you know you've been rejected is ridiculous, given the time it takss to apply.
They'd been doing that for a decade, yet the moment applicants started behaving that way it was national news. "Applicants are ghosting companies!!!! How dare they!!!"
No mention of the 100-3000 question personality test that every single application forces you to waste hours on only to tell you that your personality apparently sucks?
Oh, I'm sorry. Pare down the jargon and the right answer was: "People person who is right most of the time, and who thrives in stressful situations". Maybe next time!
I worked at a job for five years. Left for a few months. Came back before 2020. Had to reapply using the new multiple choice personality quiz. I failed. Like the previous 5 years were imaginary.
The ones with the Same 20 Questions Asked in 10-20 Different ways just to see if you are consistent on all of them ones??? Just to be a Door Greeter at Walfart??
You forgot to mention the part where these companies put out job posting with zero intention of hiring anyone. They do it to show the shareholders that the company is "growing"
What are you talking about? It's raining jobs outside. Just ask the politician that pulled a million of them out of their ass overnight. All of these poor people working 3 full-time jobs are too lazy to be paid a fair wage.
Or even worst, Ghost Job Positions. HR/Hiring Department are under performance quotas just like everyone else. If they can't show they are doing their job, they run the risk of having their budget cut and facing staff reduction. So, they create and post job openings that do not exist for the sake of doing interviews. This includes conducting hiring fairs or renting out booth space at hiring fairs. While doing this, they also treat them as data collecting. They collect data on what types of applicants applied for the jobs, which includes prior work experience, education, certification obtainment, age, gender, military experience, and other information, which is then presented throughout the year to help the company get a feel for what direction they have been going, and what direction they may need to pursue when it comes to potential staffing in the future.
@@derekstein6193 I have to wonder why recruiters even bother at that rate. It's honestly more infuriating than being ghosted. I was in a similar situation where it took 3 months for a company to reject my application. I didn't even get a phone call, just a generic "Unfortunately, we are in search of other candidates" email. Good thing I already had job by that point and wasn't waiting on them!
You forgot to mention the fact that in most job sites you apply through, after putting together the perfect resume for submission, you still have to type in everything that's on the resume you just submitted into a never ending series of text boxes, making the whole applying process as tedious as the job you're applying for.
Type? The last place I went to wanted me to write it out. I even asked them "What for? You already have my CV. I'm just going to copy it off of my CV." They were just "We know, don't ask us, we're just doing what HR tells us." So they don't even know.
@@kni9ght I joined a labor union in my mod 20's. I have a decent life now with really good insurance and retirement. I tell most people younger than me to join a union if all else fails.
@@donkeyjoe4782 you’re smart and I thought I could help people’s health, seriously trying new stuff for money and not to use my degrees, also I tell every young man to go trades, better to be a cautionary tale than making the problem worse
Try finding one in your 50’s, you have the experience and degree(s) but they don’t want to hire you because of the salary requirement. Also, ageism is real…
I remember job hunting. I was blown away by the absurd requirements for the most bottom-of-the-barrel jobs. Five plus years of experience to work stock in a clothing store? Yeah, no.
That's what always kills me! When applying for an entry level position they want you to have like 5 or 10 years experience doing said job. That makes no sense at all!
"Want an entry-level job? Easy good chap, all you need is a PhD from Harvard, 10 years of work experience, a gold medal and to be an army Ranger.... to get paid $14 hourly" - Employers
I’ve literally seen jobs that have very high requirements and yet the pay is shít. 4 year degree, 5 years of experience and yet they only offer $15 an hour…. Sorry but $15 an hour is entry level with a HS diploma pay and nothing you can actually support yourself on.
@chairmanxijinpooh8392 It’s not everyone but yes close to 40%. Still, $15 an hour is a joke and employees have to have standards too. Which means not to work for employers that take advantage of their employees like that.
When I retired in my 50s from my State job I was looking for part-time work to keep me busy. I applied for a security guard position at a local hospital. Mind you my background is I have a degree in criminal justice, spent 4 years in the Marines as a military police officer, worked in a maximum security prison, have EMT and hostage negotiating training and firefighter training. I figured I had this in the bag! But after my interview I got a letter that thanked me for applying but said, quote, "You don't have the qualifications we are looking for." WTF? I found it both infuriating and hilarious at the same time! I'd love to know who they hired. Probably the bosses 22-year-old nephew who played football and took a course in criminal justice at the local Community College.
Usually employers don't even respond... Anyway, I bet they turned you down for being over qualified. The relevant supervisor was very likely intimidated by your credentials.
Same background here but I didn’t apply to be a security guard just a greenskeeper. Because it was a rich country club, they had all kinds of additional requirements. WTH? To cut grass?😂😂
the most annoying ones are the ones where they say no experience is needed for the job. so you apply. You do have some skills and experience that make you somewhat familiar with the roles and concepts related to the job. but then they reject you saying we wanted someone with more experience. then why in the world did you put no experience needed in the job requirements then?
I once got turned down for a temp job because I had too much experience. -.- They were specifically looking for people who had never used a certain piece software because they were testing something that required no prior knowledge.
The opposite is also just as bad: Hiring an entry level position in the mail room 10 years Experience required Where are people meant to get the Experience working for your company?
I've been turned down for having too much experience. Which always translates to me as "Oh, you'll actually expect breaks. And won't do overtime because we say so." Hell, even being up front about how the job isn't necessarily the most exciting job EVER EVER EVER is a mark against...
@@lostbutfreesouland then they be like "You must be at least 18 years old". How you want me to have 10+ years of experience when I'm barely an adult?!
Bro i was on both at the same time and had to drop the dating apps because the rejections and ghosting on both fronts was really getting to me. Technology is amazing but it can really make people soulless at times
Yep, that happened to me twice during my job hunt. One interview was with a restaurant, the other was with an optometrist's office. The interview at the optometrist's went extremely well. And I mean so well, that they literally almost told me I had the job right then and there. Days went by, and I didn't hear anything back. So finally, I reached out to them. After a week, and multiple phone calls, they finally call me back and left a voicemail saying, "Oh we just didn't have time to train you blah blah blah." I was absolutely livid. 😤
@@AngryReptileKeeper As in the case for local government jobs. You see will posting for county/city jobs all the time that mean nothing. They basically have already promoted from within or hired someone who knows someone already working there.
I call it “the butt-buddy system.” I had applied for a position closer to my house three different times and it was obviously reserved for a buddy, only for that person to last 2 years there tops.
@@lelandgaunt9985 I interviewed for one position back in 2017 and while I thought it went well, the panel decided to go with someone who had more experience. The same job was back on the market two more times over the next two years. The candidate they selected over me couldn’t have last six months and the second time I saw it posted, it was strictly for internal candidates.
When I was 15 I applied for a job and was actually asked “what have you been doing for the last 10 years of your life?” And being a smart mouthed kid I adopted a proper attitude, made eye contact and spoke firmly “Well after I graduated from pull ups academy and successfully completed potty training I decided it would be a good idea to get an education.” Edit: To those who asked, no I did not get the job
Jobs say nobody wants to work. But it’s not cost effective to train or invest in inemployees anymore. And god forbid shareholders report a loss for a quarter
As someone who has worn the manager hat. Half the time it isn't even us. It is the fucking recruiters and HR teams that get in the way. Meanwhile I have an opening sitting there for months while the rest of my staff is overworked to hell and back to fill in the gap all the while HR passes on candidates cause they are not the unicorn that matches the ATS computer prune.
@@e4gailthat and then after 6 months, you've "proved you no longer need to hire those positions" and everyone is burnt out. 30% of my direct reports plus me have been working 20 hrs of OT consistently and none of my interviewees I've approved have been hired in the last 10 months... They need to stop waiting for unicorns and be ok developing the team we actually need. I'm ok investing the time, but they aren't. 🤬
Yea and this little skit does not address how most managers are trash. Its just a fact, most people are Not meant or equipped to be managers. Yet this is the case for most. I worked retail for almost 10 years and I can say after encountering over 10 department managers we really only had 2-3 really good managers. Some were OK, but then there was also a few that really make you question things.
I was rejected for a job because I was "Overqualified", the job was in the Produce Section of a grocery store. I worked in another grocery store 10 years previously.
Job Hunting back then: *shakes hands* "Wow, what a strong hand shake! Sir, would you like to have a well paid job that feeds your family and pays your new house while your wife takes care of your children fulltime and you retire early?" Job Hunting now: "We expect the entry level applicants to have 5 years of relevant experience and at least successfully operating 1x start-up by the time they graduate" Job Hunting when my kids are grown: "Didn´t you learn anything at Harvard Med School?! McDonalds does not hire below PHD level hahaha get out looser"
I'm currently applying for graduate roles, and the application experience is so different to how my internship boss got his job after graduation. This was about 30 years ago, he had a recruiter find a bunch of jobs for him all ready to book an interview straight away, no real application needed, and it was actually face to face with a boss. My experience now, spend 1 hour filling in the online application, asking for my resume along with entering everything from my resume onto the website. Creating a long cover letter, specifically for that company and role. Complete 2 hours of exams online. Complete a video interview, where you don't speak to anybody you just record yourself answering questions that come up on the screen. Complete an assessment centre, probably online where once again you still haven't spoken to a single person in the company. After all of this, the application is submitted and in the rare instance your application is chosen, you're invited to another interview (online of course) where you finally get to speak to a person. All of this for a £30k salary entry level temporary role
I hate it when the person interviewing me ask, "why do you want a job with us?" It's like, "to make money in order to live." Like, what do they expect people to say?
Oh they want you to stroke their ego to make you think this company will be your sole passion, religion, and drive in life. They want to be bigger than Jesus.
I got my job by giving a different answer. "My parents are rich business owners and I just wanna make them proud. Also we went to the same college so I wanna look for a college level job". Im not joking, this is literally how I got it and it worked.
You forgot the part where most companies, (especially in smaller cities/towns), will only hire applicants as a last resort. The majority of the time the only way to get your application actually considered is to know someone who works at the company or be a "friend of a friend". As a result even if you do get hired, you find out quickly that either the job is horrible and doesn't pay enough, hence why they were so desperate, or you find out that they expect you to work ten times as hard as the other employees because said other employees are closer on a more personal level with the higher ups.
I had a job like that. It was their policy that you got in because you know someone, were related, or you came in as a temp and they liked you enough to hire you. That is a terrible way to do business.
a lot of the time, the job listings you see were put up because they were required to. They already had someone picked out, putting up the listing was just going through the motions they had to in order to hire them. You never had a chance. For the few where you actually have a chance? There's a reason and it's not good.
"Nobody wants to work anymore" they say as we are stuck in this endless maze of the worst websites ever created as job gatekeepers and all the job descriptions are so esoteric I don't know if I'm applying to be a NASA astronaut or a janitor at 7-11. And both only pay $10/hr which you don't find out until after interview number 3.
And lying about pay. Once I applied for a job offering 18 an hour. Got hired for the position and realized I was making $8 an hour. I immediately left and reported the company.
True story: I apply for an engineering position at Boeing in 2012. From my first interaction with the recruiter I knew I was just using them for interview practice. I get the job offer, and it is for 75% of my current salary. Not my previous salary from a job where I no longer worked, but from my still active and current employment. A salary they forced me to disclose at the very start of the application process. Of course, I turn it down and get a phone call from a Seattle area code a few minutes later. She was calling to confirm that I had meant to reject the offer, and sounded surprised that my reason was that I wouldn't take a pay cut to work for them. Bullet dodged.
@@dammitthatguy3107Why WOULDNT "Boeing of all places" Engage it in? From the comment you're replying to they obviously get their way underpaying just so employees can have "Boeing" on their resume
Never tell them what you made at a previous job or what you're currently making, even if they say it's required. You should always be ready to counter those questions with what your current salary expectations are. And always overestimate a little bit. That way, they can negotiate you down in salary and feel like they won when, in reality, you just did. If they insist you reveal that salary information or you don't want to rock the boat, lie: give them your current salary expectations. They won't verify this information because even if they contact your references, it's unlikely any of them will know or confirm your salary. (I've actually done this. It works...20% pay raise switching jobs). If they low-ball you, ask them to come up higher rather than out right rejecting the job. And try to sound like you're almost onboard already, but that you simply can't make the salary work. They may say no, in which case, good riddance. (I've tossed at least three jobs in the trash because they wouldn't come up enough, or at all). But they may say yes and you're in a better position from the start.
Getting a job was the hardest things I've done in my entire life. I've been actively applying for 2 years every morning and only recently found a job. That's also with a bachelors and associates degree. The hiring process is absolutely and undeniably broken. It's beyond beyond words and emotions to describe.
@@anthonyharmon9265 I'm always thinking about how can this be changed, but it seems there isn't a way to change it because companies would have to change how they hire people.
Finding a job 50 years ago: Employer: "Can you breathe?" Me: "Yes?" Employer: "You're hired!" Finding a job now: Employer at Wendy's: "We're not taking any less than a master's degree!" Me: "Okay...."
THIS. My dad is always telling us that we just need to go out to jobsites, show our faces, and demand a job because that's what he did. If you tried that now they'd just tell you to leave and apply online where your resume will rot unseen.
Let's not forget the companies with fake jobs advertising. As seen many of them around me. 1 mcdonalds has had a manager hiring sign for almost a yr now. I interviewed for that and didn't get it. And that was at least 6 months ago. If they honestly needed managers. They would take someone and give them a chance that has an honest desire for the job. But since they don't really want to hire anyone that won't happen.
Thats why you lie? Do you have a Computer? Congrats, you just graduated windows university. Have a camera? Being a photographer is your new hobby mate, forget the damn bar. Ever been outside your hometown? Fucking internationally traveled and fluent 3 languages, even if its just saying "yes", "No" and "do you have a cigarette?"
It's worse when you have older people who think getting a job is still the same as it was 40 years ago when everything was cheaper, people got paid more relative to the cost of living at the time and before everything was digital. Employeers don't even look at resumes anymore, you give them a paper resume it's going straight into the trash and they're going to tell you to fill out all that information on their web site... multiple times because a resume and a job application are essentially the same thing with the same information and you need to fill out both for some reason even though everyone agrees it's redundant. And then at the job interview they'll ask you for the exact same information again that you already gave them on the resume and the application. Computers have made things easier for emloyers who don't have to actually look though stack of aplicats anymore but it's not easier for people looking for jobs who have to fill out redundant information 3 different times for every job they apply to.
Tell the interviewer "All the answers to what you've asked me so far are on my resume. So You should consult with that to save us both time. Or is this company known for delays by design?"
100% accurate. 263 resumes in 4 formats, submitted over 18 months to more websites than I can count, and I finally got a job offer making 48% of what I was making for the same job I had before I got laid-off. I have a performamce review the second week of January 2024, after being in this job for only four months, and several of the evaluation indicators are asking how I'll benefit the company in the next three to five years. My 90-day "probation" period ends right after this performance evaluation takes place. Any raise I may get depends on my performance for this company that still has me under a probationary employment agreement! WTF!? And this isn't the first time I've been in this position! I absolutley HATE this system! There are times I've thought that death would be better than applying for another job. This is shit, it's broken, and I know there are millions of us who are f***ing sick and tired of this BS!
“They don’t want people smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and figure out how badly they are being fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago, what they want are obedient workers.”
You're not wrong. After I left my last job that was toxic, I figured I would just enjoy life until I died. I lived on savings for a couple years until I did, in fact, die. However, they brought me back to life. I still haven't gone back to work, but savings is running out and I'm still managing to be alive. I'm not looking forward to looking for a job.
During the 2008 recession I applied for a job with Purdue. The job was literally just a line worker putting 4 drumsticks in a tray. At this point in my life I had already had 10 years of managerial food processing experience, but I still received a letter saying I wasn't qualified.
You aren't. You would (hopefully!) leave as soon as possible bc you have skills that can't be peogrammed into a robot. Until they switch to robots though, they need human drones that don't need replacing....
Brings me back to when I was trying to get a job fresh out of high school, applied for 678 jobs over 4 months, got 12 responses 5 interview offers, 2 offers that didn't ghost the second I responded and finally a minimum wage job at a UPS store
All I could land out of high school was a job at Burger King. It was hell and they fired me after two months because some geezer wasn't looking where he was going while I was mopping and fell and broke his hip. Wet floor signs were visible but apparently they weren't out enough so they let me go
Step 1. Copy the "qualifications" section of the vacancy notice. Step 2. Paste it in the smallest font you have available in white letters so it blends into the white screen. Step 3. Above your copy and paste, place your resume in black font. Since your resume will be seen by an AI program before an actual human being, you have made it to the second round of hiring
I might just have to try it 😂 cause the AI Reads the White since anyway! Fucking genius! My IQ is 135 and I didn’t even think of this. You just made my next month so much easier! Thank You!
copy and paste their job vacancy and then put that as your job description for your last job using the same operative words then you only have to do it once
It doesn’t really work. Part of those algos is to highlight on the doc where they find key words and phrases. Tbh your no worse off, using this strategy, just copying the post in the same font and color as the resume itself. I tried that once, got through to the screening and the HR person didn’t mention it. So, be careful trying too many hacks. The recruiters aren’t unaware of the workarounds
This video hilariously highlights why I hate everything about the job hunting process. I have a steady job I'm cool with now. But when I didn't, it felt extremely depressing and dehumanizing to be repeatedly rejected with no explanation. If you don't catch an employer's eye at first glance (on paper or IRL), you're deemed unworthy of a livelihood. Then society labels you as a lazy loser. And if you receive government assistance to tide you over during hard times, a lot of people don't even think you deserve that. Like...should you starve and be homeless just because you can't make a good first impression with hiring managers?
Exactly. And on that last sentence, if you were starving and homeless, that alone would immediately turn away any hiring managers. So basically, society just wants us to die.
NO! Absolutely not! However, the way things are now, even if for jobs that usually don't require experience, are hard to get. At least for me. I had to stop at some point because I wasn't going anywhere with it. Felt the same as you did before you got work again. Now, I'm not employed, but I'm going to make the transition to be self-employed, which was what I was going to do anyway since I'm more in the visual art realm while I make some side money online, which is close to a minimum wage part time job anyhow.
I've never been more concerned about identity theft than when doing my last job search. I just dropped all of my personal data, including my cell number and home address, on a dozen websites. Got tons of robo calls for months.
i always put a different address close to me, once hired just say you moved. regarding the phone calls, yeah, that's a difficult one to get around. sometimes i put a slightly different first name, if they call you for an interview, just say that was a typo. (i.e ralphy instead of ralphie)
Don't put your phone number; I don't care if recruiters want it; you can hand it out on a case-by-case level. But email is OK because it has spam protection; phone numbers have the worst spam protection.
If I needed to and had the money, I would name a "business" phone number, only for that type of thing, and also for if I get hired the only phone number they would have of me would be this one.
This is one of the understated and underrated problems with these applications. They should only request that info if they’re going to make an offer. They need contact info, obviously, but not your home address and social. To be real, they don’t really even need your full name.
There's business opportunity: depending on the fine print in the job application form, sell the data from the 1000s of applicants to a data broker and make a few dollars per applicant.
"Everyone is hiring. Why don't you have a job?!" Hard to get hired if they won't even give you an interview because some unknown detail on your application makes the algorithm kick you out of their list of potential employees. I had a store manager tell me she wasn't even in charge of choosing who she gave interviews to anymore.
Straight facts. Looking for jobs is an awful experience. Write a cover letter, don't write a cover letter... Customize your resume based on the listing, don't customize it.... Interview well, or don't... None of it matters. You're one of thousands competing for the same job. Recruiters will find someone willing to work for less than you, and that's the bottom line.
People have to try working for themselves at all costs. Now more than ever. You can't play those games they want you to play. The system is openly broken and most of those job adverts are ghost adverts. Screw them and start something on your own from the bottom.
I went through a job seeker course while on unemployment. That was the entire thing - how to customize your resume, how to write a successful cover letter, etc. None of it works. My best cover letter, the one that seems to work is about 2 short paragraphs that simply restates my resume experience. I have never bothered to customize my resume.
@@evarojas2567 Then watch as your business fails because you can't possibly compete with megacorporations and their franchises, leaving you broke, broken and completely exhausted, reduced to going on welfare. That's what happened to an older gentleman I work with. He now does a petty job for no money since he's required to work some hours to be eligible for welfare.
Oh, and don't forget during the interview, you have to be prepared to instantly and perfectly answer any question that begins with "tell me about a time that you..." (hint: just make shit up).
There's a finite set of questions like that and they overlap a bunch. So I make a chart with my answers that I can morf and practice it from memory. This way I can keep the lies straight!
"Tell me about a time that you solved a difficult problem" Like dawg that happened everyday and I will need to explain in full the meticulous process the company makes me go through to perform my job that is very difficult to explain to someone who hasn't work there for at least a month. So yeah just make shit up.
@@oklanime My last job I had I answered that question by explaining the job search process today. My interviewer looked horrified and I was hired on the spot. They were with the company for 20 years and legit had no idea how bad it had got.
@@mandisaw Exactly, that's so vague lol. Not to mention once you get the job they hire you for one thing then cross train you for 2 other people jobs 😂
@@sturner973 I actually don't mind that part - all those "extra" experiences made me a more valuable candidate for the next job. Gotta make sure it pays-off though, in a promotion or salary-bump, otherwise it's time for a new position.
@@mandisawyeah, it depends a bit on the situation but usually it's good for your resume if your employer occasionally lets you do tasks that aren't strictly within the job-description
Things I've done for job applications: 1: Set up job notifications across 6 different websites and employers. 2: Custom resume and cover letter. 3: Personality quiz. 4: Timed attention to detail test emailed to me at 1 am as a "last chance to respond". 5: Edited an excel spreadsheet without the required software as it would have cost over $300. 6: Read about 600 pages of documents to write a brief in 48 hours. 7: Delivered a 30 minute presentation to three evaluators. 8: Interviewed for 90 minutes answering 14 questions with 12 different reviewers. 9: Waited 3 weeks after the interview to prompt them only to get the generic rejection letter, and upon follow up, be informed that specific ways in which I'd followed the instructions lost me points in the application system. 10: Got a masters degree, several years of work and volunteer experience, and still get rejections even for the jobs that only ask for a high school diploma and 6 months experience.
How interviews SHOULD go if companies actually valued honesty: Interviewer: “Tell us a little bit about yourself.” Applicant: “Why did you have me take the time to write and submit a resume if you’re just gonna ask me to describe myself anyway? My resume LITERALLY does that, in great detail.” Interviewer: “Why do you want to work here?” Applicatant: “Because I need money and you’re hiring.” Interviewer: “Where do you see yourself in 5 years?” Applicant: “Hopefully at a better paying job with better benefits, or better yet I strike it rich and can retire early.”
"Applicant: "Why did you make me take the time to write and submit a resume if you're just gonna ask me to describe myself anyway? My resume LITERALLY does that, in great detail." Interviewer: "I'm sorry, but I cant hire you if you're going to be disrespectful to me like this. Good luck with your endeavors!" *and he leaves* There you go, fixed that part for you.
I usually get a very good response in interviews when I say something like this: "I know you've seen my resume, so I'll skip that information, and instead I'll explain my motivations and why I took this path..."
they've turned around so many people they're running out of people to hire. I don't care if there's an opening. I'd take death before working for Amazon.
"Statistically, you'll need to apply for 200 jobs before this nightmare ends." This reminds me of when I was looking for a job in St. Louis in 2010. I applied to something like 45 different places, all of them retail or fast food, and never got so much as an interview despite their claims to be "now hiring." I settled for being an independent contractor writing web content in the comfort of my own home instead. The income was shit, but it paid my bills, and it was a hell of a lot less stressful and came with way more freedom and flexibility than those other jobs. Fun fact: When places say they're hiring, they're probably not actually hiring. They just want to stockpile applications and resumes.
I have applied to multiple thousands over the last 20 years never got a job related to my degree nor one that paid over 31k and that was my first job. I can say now I only apply to what I really want to do and at interview I have more of an attitude now and I am very honest and straight forward I am almost don't give a shit if the phony asses don't want to hire me
Im considering moving into sf despite it being "trash". It's mainly because of business and car theft and homeless problem. But the homless problem doesnt bug me away from sf and I don't even have a driver liscense.Dont plan on owning a car since my dream city is the worst city to own a car. Apparently it takes too long to find a basic job so I'll just wrack up aso many side hustles to the point I have a full time worth of it with fulltime pay. From preasure washing cleaning houses flipping electronics etc.
As somebody who is currently searching for a job in a horrendous job market this is so accurate 😂 The amount of companies that are always urgently hiring yet have a list of requirements that 90% of the population doesn't have is absurd. Then you add on the ridiculous pay, insanely long hours, and all the bad reviews and it's no surprise at all they are always urgently hiring.
Consider lying. It does wonders. True story, half the jobs that I apply for, I call three days later and state that I'm calling back to schedule an interview. You'd be surprised how seldomly I get caught doing that.
The HR department knows that the requirements are unrealistic and more than necessary. The only reason that they do that is if there is ever a hiring discrimination lawsuit against them, they dont have to deal with it. They can say, "the applicant did not meet our qualifications."
You left out… "And all that we're an equal opportunity employer mumbo-jumbo is just that. The only reason we say this is to avoid endless lawsuits for hiring discrimination. Sure, the Americans With Disabilities Act has been in place since 1990, but we've long since found ways to say we won't hire you because of your disability without directly saying it; and that's regardless of whether you disclose this fact about yourself ahead of time or it comes up when you show up for the interrogation."
Spoken like someone who sided with Amber Heard and thinks inclusivity means excluding white or straight people while calling everyone they don't like "literally Hitler". Keep losing the culture war lefty. The pendulum is swinging. Go get your 97th booster shot so you can experience climate change.@@Pacemaker_fgc
When I was in high school, they told us to avoid embellishing our experience and job titles because it would look like we're trying to pad our resumes, and now I've noticed that this exact practice has become part of the corporate lingo because it's now viewed as a more professional way to speak.
I did that. Couldn't find an industrial chemistry-related job so dusted off my old electrical contractor's license to do odd jobs troubleshooting and repairing stuff for folks at homes and small commercial buildings. Also a sideline business installing television antennas for folks who had 'cut off cable TV' so they can watch broadcast TV without having to use a streaming service. Worked out fine, and no I won't help you with your chem issue unless you want to pay me my going electrical rate. FU!
Also forgot to mention how every job would rather just delete the position and shift work on the existing employees, increasing their burden for no extra compensation than train a new person and make them feel welcome for a few weeks and pay them. They always choose the selfish option to keep their money until forced.
But will happily increase the budget for endless restructures that don't work and that they didn't consult any of the people actually already doing the job on, and to hire more upper and upper-middle managers to come up with the "vision" for the company that justifies said restructures, and whose entire job is having meetings with other upper and upper-middle managers without implementing or even really overseeing any of the outcomes of those meetings themselves. My assumption that it's about saving money evaporated when companies en masse opted to force people back into the office after remote and hybrid working in 2020 despite most of them seeing increased productivity, decreased running costs, and a decrease in employee absences. They didn't care that letting employees remote work was cheaper and generated greater profit, they just wanted to ensure the worker ants were sufficiently miserable and micro-managed to provide a satisfying contrast to their own wealth and freedom
Getting war flashbacks to all the Cover letters I had to submit along side a CV (Resume) until one day I snapped and wrote a cover letter noting how dumb cover letters are as a whole and how they're never actually read, they're just expected. And I actually had a follow up interview from that job and they never mentioned the Cover Letter....
Nv submitted a cover letter in my life. My record was 3 days when it comes to getting a new job. Y'all need to gain some specialised skills instead of trying to work at a call center
I get that comedy is supposed to reflect truth but you still have to tell some jokes. This is just an accurate representation of the job market, I don't need to see this I'm living it right now.
I once heard a hiring manager say "I don't want to hire someone who seems too desperate for the job. It makes me suspicious." Regarding a person who followed up with an email and a call. What, you want a candidate who does not want to work for you? Seek therapy, and stop chasing unavailable people in your life...
In hindsight, I think this was the reason I didn't get a job I really wanted earlier this year. I was excited and happy in the two interviews I had, and then after the second one I got the email they went with someone else. A total waste of time.
@CAS671 I had friend who gave up on a job search. He aced a technical interview and a total of 3 for the same job. He got rejected anyways. It is utterly insane how hard it is to get a job just to survive now
@@LonovavirThis is what can happen when a company creates a situation where their people are essentially interviewing their own internal competition. They have a personal incentive to keep qualified people *out* of the company.
I have a seasonal type of job. (logging/forestry) Last winter I was laid off and took advantage of the free time to try and find a new job. Wasn't getting any results the first month, so I told my boss I wanted to take more time off to find a new job, because I don't have time to apply and follow up on jobs when I'm out in the woods working. He knows my situation and understands. I have insanely long commutes and I desperately need to get away from that. I wasted the entire winter and early spring looking for jobs unsuccessfully, going into debt using my credit card to pay rent. I really, really want to get a new job close to home. But no one would hire me for basic entry level labor jobs.
@@yearginclarkeand then they have the audacity to claim nobody wants to work because they're lazy. No it's because you won't hire them and ignore people.
@@demonjmh Yes...I've been hinted at that by LOTS of people when I've described my experiences looking for jobs. They either don't understand the modern job market, or they're being arrogant about it. It's an absolute joke finding work nowadays. Even people with high skill levels, plenty of experience, or people with degrees are struggling just the same. The approach to education and job/careers in America needs a MAJOR overhaul. It needs to actually help people who want to work and be a contributing member of society, not cast them aside and act like it's OK to treat people like garbage and tell them there's something "wrong" with them. And you shouldn't have to spend years in college to get a decent paying job, if college doesn't fit your learning style or personality...you should be able to learn gradually on the job with experience if that suits your personal style.
I got an interview earlier this year for an internship in a publishing house. I met all the requirements (young, just graduated in Publishing, a bit of working experience but nothing crazy cause they wanted "someone fresh"), the two people who interviewed me were kind, seemed to like me, smiled, shook my hand and everything, even showed me around the office area to meet the staff. I was happy and thought I aced it but didn't hear back for weeks, so after almost a month I emailed them and asked for an update. Their response was basically "your enthusiasm really shone through and your resume was good, but we chose someone else". I wish I was joking.
I met one Profile once: Young people who think out the box and want to try new things, no experience required* Rejected without chance of an interview 😂
@@henkerrthis is why I laugh when companies talk about this whole "we're a family" nonsense. Like, no, you're a paycheck and im just a worker trying to pay my bills lmao. Companies are so fake.
This was my exact experience. It was an accounting role and I have qualifications in both, pay was minimum wage and I still didn’t get it. Publishing is a joke
When my job got outsourced in 2017, and my next job with the same company didn't work out, I spent 15 MONTHS trying to land another one. I hear it's even worse out there now.
I have a BS degree in CompSci, had good grades, a minor in math, with 10 years of customer experience with management and IT work. I'm at probably 75 job apps now. I get rejected for not having specific certificates or knowledge of an exact program. What was the 5 years of an accredited college for? And I have experience of a small business that defended solely on me to fix things. What I don't know I can learn ffs!
It's also excellent to know that our SSN will be floating around out there for who knows how long 😂😢😢. Having to apply for millions of jobs that we never get, is a scam and a waste of time.
I know a few parts of this video were exaggerated for comedic effect, but the bit about statistically needing to apply to 200 jobs before one hires you felt 100% real. If anything I think that might be lowballing it.
I'm crying, and not just from laughter. 😂 This is all true. People keep saying 'oh just go get a job' like it's really that simple, and jumping through all these hoops just to get ghosted and rejected over and over and over... it's very demoralizing. All those We're Hiring signs that you already know don't apply to you because you're not the perfect candidate and no one will touch you with a 10 ft pole. You don't have experience because no one will hire you, but every 'entry level' job wants YEARS of experience, that no one will give you. I've actually been kicked off online applications halfway through because it basically went, "Ew, we've already decided we don't want you. Go away." What the hell are these people looking for, and why is this so dang complicated? Why do they give preference to people who already have a job and not to the unemployed who need it much more?? How much longer do I have to keep hearing old people tell me, "Just go in and ask for a job, it's easy!" 🙄 It's not a matter of go getting one like I can pluck it off a tree, I literally have to go BEG for one. And still be rejected for any reason they choose. 😞
"Just walk on down to the widget factory and ask to see the manager. Give him a firm handshake, look him right in the eyes, and say that you want to work."
I know what you mean spent 5 months on the unemployment line applying for alot of jobs i met the requirements for and maby had 3 interviews. Was so glad when i finally landed a job out of the blue and couldnt be happier working there :)
Old people are the worst. Back when they were looking for a job all you had to do was have functional hands. You didn't even have to be competent, and we know that because old people are always the least competent of your coworkers. Nowadays those same boomer hiring managers act like picky children who refuse to eat anything and can't decide what they actually want. It's so infuriating. You can even be exactly what they want, and you'll still get rejected because the boomer's son or 3rd cousin called up and wants a job. The nepotism is fucking unhinged. There's also the factor of rampant discrimination in hiring. If you're young, black, a woman, etc, you just accept that you'll have to put out 3x the number of applications as middle age white men.
What do these people want? Nothing, they want nothing. They discovered a cheat code where they can leave their businesses horribly understaffed, claim they're looking to hire, and people will just accept the understandably bad service. Because the problem is presented as "understaffing", not "mismanagement". And since so many businesses are doing the same thing, all those applications on file are literally just there to weed out anyone that has any level of self-worth or self-esteem to where they will only hire the most desperate people who will put up with way more abuse than anyone would ever reasonably put up with. The system was never broken. Its job was to break you and it is working as intended.
That is astoundingly accurate. Using zip recruiter is literal cancer and glass door as well. Over 50 applications and not a single call- it's like all my applications go straight into the company furnace simply to keep the place warm. Getting a job should not be this ridiculous, do you want the job done or not? Am I the right fit for the company?.........Does your company want things done or do you want to sit around a table for on hour talking about nothing? Seriously, if you want employees, how about actually reading the job applications instead of shirking your job onto some other company, also if you have fucked off and waited 6 months before calling a job applicant......they're dead, they died waiting for you to do your job- got kicked out of their home, got sick on the streets and fucking died. All because it's a little too hard for someone to read a sheet of paper and make a phone call- fuck, send a text- smoke signal- something, you lazy bastards!
Exactly, there's no reason getting a job should be so unrealistically hard. I'm 38 and there's never been a period in my life where getting a job wasn't a soul crushing experience.
@@claytucker5025 That's how I got started at my first job also. I got a few other jobs without knowing anyone. But that was a long time ago, and now all I do is struggle to get jobs. I have very few connections to help me now.
The only thing that would make this more accurate is a 1 to 6 hour long "pre interview assesment" that contains lengthy questionares and/or job simulations, only to be told some time after completion "we're sorry, you didn't get a high enough score to qualify for an interview (doesn't tell you what you got right/wrong. You can try again in *6 months* !"
I feel like this is part of why people stay homeless. Sure, they can get help to get back on their feet, but then they have to participate in this system, only from an even lower place on the totem pole, doing jobs that nobody should have to endure. Not due to the nature of the work itself, but due to how abusive the employers are.
I have a masters and had to do a house cleaning job for a while. After that I got a part time a professional job (which really needed to be done full time) but needed to keep working the cleaning job almost fulltime to meet visa requirements. I could then quit both when I got a full time but deadend and impossible to do professional job which I recently lost because I couldn't meet my targets (whatever those were - even my weak boss didn't know) 😢
The only reason I'm not homeless despite making nearly six figures is cause my mom bought her house in the 80s. :) When she dies and the hospital takes her house I'll be on the streets despite working a white-collar job! I had better prospects as a call-center employee making 10$ an hour back in 2009!
Then the gatekeepers would be unemployed, companies wouldn't be able to go crying to the government about not being able to find workers, and workplaces wouldn't then be staffed by desperate migrants paid in magic beans and hollow promises.
"Do you need money to survive? How selfish. We need passionate employees who make love wearing the company shirt while receiving the minimum that the boss is forced to pay because of the inconvenience of labor laws."
@@RedJoker9000 man, unless the job requires a STEM degree, it can be taught on the job. Hire, teach em how to do the job, treat them right, and you got a loyal employee
As a job seeker myself this is EXACTLY what the experience is like Nevermind the fact that a lot of companies out there are that arent actually hiring but are posting "job openings" that will screen and have you take an interview just so they can keep your information on file if they need something later.
Been screwed since 2005. I'm getting highly suspicious that since around 2015 job applications now are for gathering and selling data of the applicants.
therye basically "back pocketing" you for maybe possibly future roles that may open later if that ever happens but youre right by that time if youre lucky youll have something lined up
Look at it from the employer's point of view. We have this guy we want, but he wants more then we will give him. So we stage mock interviews to get him to come down to our price. Or we have to legally hold open interviews before we can hire the guy we really want. Also I f we are not looking like we are interviewing, some bright spark in accounting will get rid of us to save money and look good.
It's pretty accurate. They're either hiring internally or the job will first be offered to someone the company knows. The only two reasons jobs are offered to the general public are to keep the EEOC off their backs or to sell your personal information.
Having seen actual job listings for "entry level" computer programming positions require 40 years experience and a masters degree for a Javascript programming position, I think you might actually have understated the requirements portion here...
40 years? Dang I would've loved to see that job posting. Most I've got is 10 years using tools a, b, c, and d (Required) for an entry level position. The bigger icing on the cake was that they were only accepting applicants that are able to commute to the listed location.
This is why we have people who do things like hacking game developer companies and stealing the source code for upcoming games. Like if i'm a programmer and nobody will hire me unless I have experience, then i'll just have to get some experience myself.
Whoever posted that job ad was an idiot. You can learn coding in less then a year if you really work at it every day. Personally I don't know coding. But I know other things. You want to learn something? Do it every day. It takes SOME time, but no way in hell does it take 40 years when you put your mind to it. Question and challenge that nonsense. But you didn't challenge them did you?
I remember when job interviews consisted of just 3 questions: 1) Have you ever done this kind of work before? 2) Do you have your own tools? 3) When can you start?
I’ve learned the hard way recently that accepting an entry level job just to “get your foot in the door” is no longer a good idea. You will NEVER get out of the entry level job no matter how hard you work.
You take the entry level job to get your foot in the industry. After a year or two you apply to mid-level jobs that pay better elsewhere since you now have experience.
It's easier to get a job while you already have 1, may take a while but that's how you advance your position these days, current job not dishing out any raises? Apply to different jobs that pay more in the meantime, eventually someone will get back to you with a better offer
What is annoying with the "We want *this much* experience" or wanting six degrees in stuff that has nothing to do with the job, the company tells you to apply even if you don't have all that. They claim it is to weed out people so they do not get too many people applying, so they are making it so people who would be perfect for the job don't apply and those who do apply are "Over qualified" and they don't want to hire them. So... pretty much companies want people to apply for things they claim they need more stuff for but the company puts those up so people do not apply.
I learned this when I got a job as a maintainence tech in a factory with several years of mechanic experience. All the other guys had zero relative experience when they started. I was actually "trained" by some kid who had no clue what he was doing.
Those are BS excuses for when they want to discriminate against someone without looking like bigots. "We just don't like your kind" doesn't fly these days, so they have a crapton of requirements they can point at to justify rejecting someone.
When it's an entry level job and they require tons of experience, they already have internal candidates in mind and will almost always fill the position from within the organization.
Programmers and engineers: memorize these coding assignments and recite them in interviews! Know all of the technical jargon terms that you'll never use in your job Job: here's a brand new problem with limited resources, figure it out and don't use existing memorized code. Use creative problem solving and efficient design. Requirements call the algorithms thingymajigs and whatchamacallits, along with company tribal knowledge acronyms Managers: why are new workers so bad at their jobs?
Around here, there are a lot of Scientology owned/influenced businesses and the hiring process for them has 2-3 "personality" tests. I wonder if you get to go clear if you work there. (I avoid them when I can)
@Actual-Trashall they manage to do though is annoy everyone for having to take individual tests that amount to wasting 15 minutes to be ignored anyway cause no employer is reading it, and the computer doesn't care if your answer makes sense, it only cares if you answer the correct answer in a set of 4 multiple choice about what you think is the best approach in a scenario.... so literally just pointless waste of time
That part!!!! I took a personality test for a job yesterday and it’s soul crushing if you don’t answer it correctly… as if that test determines my personality.
I have found that being able to turn the interview from "Why should we hire you" to "why should I work for you" to work out very well. If you can turn the interview around, you have a much greater chance of getting hired.
Yes, last Interview I failed because of that question. I wasn't in the mood that day, and as the recruiting process took a year, I didn't remember which position they wanted me in. I could say the classic response of listing my qualifications for the job, but I decided to say "You contacted me first, not the other way around, tell me If you want me or not". 🤣🤣🤣.So I think I didn't culturally fit
Exactly. Question their reputation and trust and suddenly they become concerned about their own self image. The very thing that works against you can be used to work for you if you exploit it. Use their own fear against them. It's about control and manipulation. Just got to be honest about it. And if you don't mean and intend what you do (manipulate) then you're just being stupid about it. To pre-empt any foolish complaints about manipulation. You ARE being manipulated. Do it back. It's the game. Show you catch on and have a brain and know how to use it. Most people have a fear of conflict and don't even challenge others. Fact is most people bring it on themselves and suffer in silence when they could speak up and challenge more. Both sides are at fault. But who allows it? Those that speak up have the courage to challenge such things. Which is rare. What I want people reading to take away from this is to speak up more. Right there in someones face. If you got concerns then state the concerns. People can struggle with wording of course, but better trying and looking like an idiot then not having tried at all.
Left out pee in the cup, sign release for background check that includes talking to your neighbors, the "survey" you can only answer within their parameters, and one place wanted a psych profile. For a janitor job.
I applied for a 10 hour a week position that would have me traveling between 5 libraries. The application had 3 pages asking about my sex life alone! What does that have to do with stacking books?
I have stopped writing personal letters when searching for jobs and only sends my CV. Makes the process waaaay faster. And when I get called to a interview I speak as little as possible. Only giving short answers to their qiestions. I started doing that because I was fed up and didnt see any point on wasting time when I wont get the job anyway. To my surprise, searching for jobs this way made it easier to actually get a job 😂
what you are doing is exactly how employers treat job applicants. If I could be bothered playing the recruitment game again I will take the same exact scattergun approach. Also don't wait to hear back from them before sending the next resume / CV without referee contact details. my referees are five years ago so effectively I do not have fresh references.
@@snuffoutrouge5109 I don't think it counts at all. My references are people I've met years ago, phone numbers are probably not even the same, and it never affected at all my hirings. 😂
Having been made redundant twice in a row, I feel this all too well. This never-ending cycle of applying for jobs that I'm perfectly capable of doing, but not even getting a response 95% of the time is soul-crushing. Eventually I was forced to take an unskilled job for $6 p/h less, not terrible, but I feel like I'm wasting my time.
It's even more annoying when they keep sending you jobs you're not qualified for. Seriously, I made my account and put in my work experience and education only for the website to completely ignore it with their 'job alerts'. No, I don't have a college degree, a Bachelors, MD, or X,Y, Z license and I haven't gotten one in the last 24 hours! And it seems any somewhat decent job requires a degree regardless of how much experience you have. I have over 10 years of customer service, management, sales, data entry, loss prevention and office work experience but companies still want a degree for a mediocre entry level job that pays less than what I'm making now. I honestly think companies want applicants who are in crippling college debt so they'll be desperate enough to stay more than they want an experienced worker.
This is why you apply anyway and use what theyre looking for in your resume. Can we also talk about why is it that you upload a resume but still required to fill in the same thing listed on your resume. Or how employers claim they are hiring but in reality it's just advertising.
The whole upload and fill in thing is pretty straightforward. They want you to upload a resume so the interviewer can reference it and they don't trust their OCR and see no downside to making more work for potential hires to fill out a more reliably computer-readable version.
It was insane when I applied to a job recently and I about fell out of my chair when their site was smart enough to correctly fill in the entire application using a scan of my attached resume
This is honestly how I feel. Studied Computer Science only to learn all remote jobs require years of experience and that there were almost no Computer Science Jobs in my area or they just send you to a training that requires a complicated process to just sign up for it. Or they want you to pay for training or something. I'm working at Walmart for one simple reason. I need to survive and not working means I will be in the streets or dead. On a side note: I only got a job at Walmart because I knew someone working there. I failed the interview even after I told them that I can work at any hours and am a quick learner. I was applying to be a team associte which just means you do what your told or a routine. It is not like I'm controlling the whole store or managing hundreds if not thousands of different things that requires years of experience. I'm just doing a few simple tasks while providing some customer service and yet couldn't qualify.
@@wrathofainz I get the feeling they want someone who answers: "I'd ask my manager" on every single scenario question. I made the mistake of thinking they wanted someone who could think for themselves and not waste the manager's time. Boy was I wrong.
@@wrathofainzsomexs I feel like chains come after me like I'm special. No haha on meeee 🤗. Well, not directly. But there's prob a reason u didn't pass some personality test. Or idk how their hiring process is like. But have u seen some of the ppl they hire anyways?.. I guess I can't say ish bc I've worked in alotta warehouses ... But still. I bet it does take a certain kind to deal w/ the ..public.. I like to use this many dots bc it really puts emphasis on my vibes, you know? Gonna start doing this on my updated resume. That I haven't even done yet . .
I always hated that when job searching the hiring managers would always stress about how important honesty was. But my attempts at being honest during interviews never turned out well. You’re basically expected to tell them things about yourself that aren’t necessarily true but what they want to hear. And even when you’re going for a job that doesn’t require you to talk to anyone who isn’t a coworker, in the end only the smoothest talkers end up getting the job.
@@joeleek9976They seek to weed out anyone but the best, if everyone wants the best, no one gets the best because there aren’t enough of the best for every company.
Is because the environment is so fake, that the concept of honestly is already perverted. What they mean is someone who seems honest aka a good lier, not someone actually honest
So much truth. The gatekeeper comment hit hard. I miss the days when you got a honest salary in the job description so you know if it’s worth your time and talent to apply. I also miss rejection emails so you knew it was over.
become a companion at a Home Health Aide agency, you don't need any experience (just say you cared for your elderly grandparents for several years who had dementia). have a relative be a reference (they wont call anyway, but just in case). they are Desperately Hiring, there are millions of old folks who have physical ailments and can't cook, no longer drive , need medication reminders, light cleaning and want to live in their home not a nursing home. it's super easy work and pays ok ( not great but ok). if you hate the idea of changing diapers of the elderly and bathing them, you're in luck, cause most clients seeking COMPANIONS don't need those things done, they typically must be certified HHA to do that, so just Don't get certified, always stay a companion.
I'm in the exact same situation. Got so burned out that I've kind of just accepted my fate. No amount of grinding is going to get me out of this hole, I've learned from personal experience
1) Everyone should just start their own business. The infrastructure is there to do so. And the world will be a much happier place. 2) if you want a job in a company, it really really helps to know someone on the inside. Just cold calling as a stranger (or applying online) off the street is much harder to land the job. Use a recruiting agent if possible. But I even find that the recruiting agents tend to do things that are self serving to them, ie, link you up with companies they know aren’t very good, but they just want to make the commission.
I've been using Indeed for about 3 months now. I've had more luck looking at places nearby in person or going to their specific website and applying there. My favorite was having to drive 20 miles each way to an interview at 7 in the morning, pass a government security check, be shown around the facility, have my duties detailed to me (including the absolutely INSANE work hours and mandatory overtime), only to wait a week for an email saying that my closely related job experience and attention to detail wasn't enough to make $17/hr.
Agreed. And some postings aren't even for a job - just a hypothetical skills so agencies and recruiters can fill out their inventory of candidates just in case. Nobody mentions the hours it takes to compile resumes that will be outdated in a few months.
Or my personal favorite: when you've been with a company for years, give up all of your weekends for them (and catch lip when you don't, even though you're technically not onligated to work them) and stay later than anybody else. So when time for promotions roll around? They hire some schmuck off the street who's never worked a day in the business, because you accidentally madr yourself too valuable in your current position to give up.
Had it happen to me. I was far more qualified for information security specialist job than the dude they went with. Said dude turned out to be a former backstabbing friend who bragged about it to me on Facebook to rub it in. I asked another friend about it a year ago or so and I was told daddy got him the job because of nepotism. I knew the dude was a lazy sack of shit with no real IT qualifications or degrees
@chesterstevens8870 Yeah definitely only make yourself too valuable to give up once you're in a comfortable enough place. Ideally, without losing all your weekends.
As someone who graduated with a bachelor’s in the summer and has submitted at least 200-300 job applications over the last 6 months with 3 interviews and no job offers, this is very accurate
My experience as well. My entire campus was shut down between Junior and Senior years, the most pivotal moments of a college person's time there. I could not do any internships as the economy was shuttered and nobody was doing them. When I graduated, things were starting to open back up. I applied to roughly 200 internships in my field and was rejected by everyone. I am now working for NY state government and I have been loving it so far. It is not relevant to my field, but I love that I can make a difference in people's lives
And people ask me why I stay working at Dollar General. It's not that I don't want a better job, its that I don't want to go through this again anytime soon.
I just wish I could survive at a job like that. This year, I quit a decent paying FT job that I'd worked at for 12 years to go work at a local grocery store chain, making 13.75 an hour. It was less BS for sure, but I simply couldn't make it even in a FT position there too. I recently quit that job and am now working a similar job to the one that stressed me out, but I'm making far more money.
@@DAV1979Nearly same situation here (left a FT job because the company president made it a repellent place to work). Despite all my qualifications, could only get a job at a grocery store (after 70+ applications). Rose to FT low-level management and realized how they screw over anyone below the top.
This is why social job applications like LinkedIn connections have become the way of finding new jobs, getting to know people in industries to get jobs. Sending CV online without getting the contact details of hiring managers or person responsible for jobs, is like sending a message in a bottle across the ocean.
@@Mcspazz731 100% agree! most applicant don't pick up the phone, don't call to ask question about the Job or the Company. if you do that you suddenly become MEMORABLE.
Don’t forget all the jobs that force you to go to a different website and create an account you’ll only use once, only to fill out the same information you would’ve on the job search site.
Better yet, the sites where they make you fill out the same information you'd put on a resume, THEN they say to attach a resume (!)
Not to mention, creating that account will open you up to scam e-mails from fake job offers for the following year, which is how long it takes for those sites to delete your unused account.
If Honest Ads were wise as duck 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖
@@LamanKnightthat part. Most of the time you don’t realize until it’s too late that you weren’t even actually applying for a job, but signing up for yet another job recruiting website that’s going to waste your time time clog up your email.
So f**king annoying. I was 50 minutes into a vague personality questionnaire I was only halfway through for a bank teller job that paid $1.20/HR more than minimum wage and just was done. It should not take hours just to apply to a place. Interview me.
My biggest issue with the whole process is that they do not value honesty. You have to tell them what they want to hear not necessarily the truth.
The funniest part is you mustn't lie either. Just twist and bend the truth enough so it resembles what they want to hear.
@blueatoms2107There are days I daydream about something happening that would make people tell the actual truth. Imagine everyone on the planet suddenly being 100% honest. It would be chaos, but one I would love to witness, at least temporarily.
They expect you to keep doing that after you get the job too. The people who get promoted are the ones who do the most shameless self promotion and make it seem like they're the smartest, hardest working employees.
As an autistic woman, discovering that employers *want* to be "lied" to was shocking. But alas, I started to ace all my job interviews, even the ones for which I had no qualification at all. I believed they'd appreciate honesty so that everyone involved wouldn't lose their time, but no, because they Will also lie to you, so...
@blueatoms2107 If you speak truths, they'll call you an asshole, though. They want a pleasant-sounding, plausible lie.
"gatekeepers who determine if you're good enough at writing resumes to live". So cynical yet so so true.
Then people act like you're responsible for the employer's decision to pick you or not. I guess I chose to be jobless for them not giving me the job.
Ancient China had a similar system at one time. If you wanted a government job you had to write poetry. If the official liked your poem you got the job. Not only was the whole thing subjective, but is a poet automatically a good accountant or floor scrubber?
If Honest Ads were wise as duck 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖
Oh, they do a hellofa lot more than that. Once they narrow their search down to their version of the top three candidates, they run a three in one report with emphasis on credit check. What they are looking for is the person with enough debt to keep them working for the company after they realize it is a shit job, but not bad enough to where they could be a risk. Bonus points for the US tying health insurance to employment and allowing employers to force you to wait up to 90 days for those sweet insurance benefits to kick in. What that does is force people to keep working for a company they hate in fear of losing health insurance for even 30 days. Welcome to the new and improved modern slavery 🙂
@@Zebulization Literally doesn't matter. Random people walked into random jobs all the time and just learned on the job. Now corporations don't want to pay for that. They don't want to pay for anything. They just want to take the country's resources.
This is painfully accurate. Don’t forget having to bust out of the paradox, “Need a job to get experience, but I need experience to get a job”
For some jobs, this is impossible. But for many others, showing your personal projects gets you an interview. We are used to thinking about this from creatives who have a portfolio or they exhibited in a fashion/art show. But for other industries, this is whatever body of work shows off your skills ( Idk about spreadsheets and reports ppl). Look at job listings to see which skills will "hit" and do projects with those so you can put them on bios about yourself. Bonus points if you can turn your personal projects into your job via social media. ;-)
@@morganseppy5180most hired people on Google on the last 3 years can't even open excel
I think much of the job market actually looks for educated idiots.
Corporations do not treat their workers right, they make little effort to retain their best workers, and then they wonder why they end up going bankrupt.
Are you like some sorta head hunter on the cheap?@@morganseppy5180
this is called a contradiction
What’s INSANE is how many companies are “urgently hiring” but they never get back to you.
Actual conversation I've been having with a recruiter.
28 Aug: "would you like to interview this week?" "Yes." "Great, I'll get back to you with an appointment"
20 Sep: "Are you still interested in the job?" "Yes." "Great, I'll forward your resume to the hiring officer"
1 Nov: "Are you still interested in the job?" "Yes." "We weren't sure if we were going to fill this position. Can you interview this week?" "Yes." "Great, I'll get back to you with an appointment"
Still waiting on that appointment time.
@@tbeller80 It's insanity!
@@kingscrump best piece of advice I've received in my job hunt is don't stop until you've signed an offer. Thankfully this is not the only iron I have in the fire.
@@tbeller80 yup, you really do need to run the gambit of companies before you get picked lol
Employer: “Urgently hiring…..just kidding!”
Companies should be legally required, at minimum, to notify you if the position is filled. Not even letting you know you've been rejected is ridiculous, given the time it takss to apply.
They'd been doing that for a decade, yet the moment applicants started behaving that way it was national news. "Applicants are ghosting companies!!!! How dare they!!!"
Right.
most jobs never even existed
their just building up a backup just incase they want to hire in the future
One more cog in the bureaucracy, Then you'd end up in 5 years arrested for applying at places. I don't think so.
@@BKNeifert what? how high are you? because it would be companies being fined miniscule amounts, no one would get arrested.
No mention of the 100-3000 question personality test that every single application forces you to waste hours on only to tell you that your personality apparently sucks?
Oh, I'm sorry. Pare down the jargon and the right answer was: "People person who is right most of the time, and who thrives in stressful situations". Maybe next time!
I worked at a job for five years. Left for a few months. Came back before 2020. Had to reapply using the new multiple choice personality quiz. I failed. Like the previous 5 years were imaginary.
You mean you are the slave bot they are looking for.
The ones with the Same 20 Questions Asked in 10-20 Different ways just to see if you are consistent on all of them ones??? Just to be a Door Greeter at Walfart??
i really dont understand them at all because even when you answer "correctly" (according to how a job wants you to be) it still doesnt work.
You forgot to mention the part where these companies put out job posting with zero intention of hiring anyone. They do it to show the shareholders that the company is "growing"
Tell that to my son-of-an-alcoholic-boomer grandad who watches fox news all day
And THAT my friend, is called a "ghost job." 😒
They hire people, just not you
@@TheRealLesterGreen no they don’t ask me how I know
They did, the interviewer said "we're hiring internally" 🤦♂️ damnit this hurts too much
The very fact that this skit exists, tells you all you need to know about the labor market.
What are you talking about? It's raining jobs outside. Just ask the politician that pulled a million of them out of their ass overnight. All of these poor people working 3 full-time jobs are too lazy to be paid a fair wage.
No it doesn’t
:p@@timah9420
@@nikefellow946 how’s that boot taste?
Probably like shit.@@princessmarlena1359
The only thing Roger didn't mention: ghosting. How many times have you been to an interview or sent an application to NEVER hear anything back?
More times than I can count.
And if they do get back with you, it can be months later. It once took 3 months for a company to tell me that they went with the other guy.
Or even worst, Ghost Job Positions.
HR/Hiring Department are under performance quotas just like everyone else. If they can't show they are doing their job, they run the risk of having their budget cut and facing staff reduction. So, they create and post job openings that do not exist for the sake of doing interviews. This includes conducting hiring fairs or renting out booth space at hiring fairs.
While doing this, they also treat them as data collecting. They collect data on what types of applicants applied for the jobs, which includes prior work experience, education, certification obtainment, age, gender, military experience, and other information, which is then presented throughout the year to help the company get a feel for what direction they have been going, and what direction they may need to pursue when it comes to potential staffing in the future.
@@derekstein6193 I have to wonder why recruiters even bother at that rate. It's honestly more infuriating than being ghosted. I was in a similar situation where it took 3 months for a company to reject my application. I didn't even get a phone call, just a generic "Unfortunately, we are in search of other candidates" email. Good thing I already had job by that point and wasn't waiting on them!
5 years worth
You forgot to mention the fact that in most job sites you apply through, after putting together the perfect resume for submission, you still have to type in everything that's on the resume you just submitted into a never ending series of text boxes, making the whole applying process as tedious as the job you're applying for.
I think this is by design. They want to filter out applicants that won't tolerate tedium.
I always copy paste the same paragraphs from my cv
Yer, this is just dumb as fuck.
Makes the case that AI will never be a thing.
Humans designed it.
They want you to be more obedient when you finally get the job
Type? The last place I went to wanted me to write it out. I even asked them "What for? You already have my CV. I'm just going to copy it off of my CV."
They were just "We know, don't ask us, we're just doing what HR tells us." So they don't even know.
Finding a job in your early 20's is the most soul crushing time in a person's life. It's by design and it doesn't have to be that way.
Exactly. If it impacted the companies bottom line then companies will change.
I’m 30 and have two degrees, I just don’t know anymore
@@kni9ght I joined a labor union in my mod 20's. I have a decent life now with really good insurance and retirement. I tell most people younger than me to join a union if all else fails.
@@donkeyjoe4782 you’re smart and I thought I could help people’s health, seriously trying new stuff for money and not to use my degrees, also I tell every young man to go trades, better to be a cautionary tale than making the problem worse
Try finding one in your 50’s, you have the experience and degree(s) but they don’t want to hire you because of the salary requirement. Also, ageism is real…
"Entry level job"
"30 years of experience"
Yup that sounds accurate for what you can find in real life
30 years experience I would have had to start working when I was born to have that qualification 😂
should be illegal with harsh penalties too. Entry level should mean 0 seconds of company experience
And some form of professional certificate.
I remember job hunting. I was blown away by the absurd requirements for the most bottom-of-the-barrel jobs. Five plus years of experience to work stock in a clothing store? Yeah, no.
That's what always kills me! When applying for an entry level position they want you to have like 5 or 10 years experience doing said job. That makes no sense at all!
"Want an entry-level job? Easy good chap, all you need is a PhD from Harvard, 10 years of work experience, a gold medal and to be an army Ranger.... to get paid $14 hourly" - Employers
14 hourly, before taxes
I’ve literally seen jobs that have very high requirements and yet the pay is shít. 4 year degree, 5 years of experience and yet they only offer $15 an hour…. Sorry but $15 an hour is entry level with a HS diploma pay and nothing you can actually support yourself on.
@chairmanxijinpooh8392 It’s not everyone but yes close to 40%.
Still, $15 an hour is a joke and employees have to have standards too. Which means not to work for employers that take advantage of their employees like that.
Yup
@chairmanxijinpooh8392 no 💀
When I retired in my 50s from my State job I was looking for part-time work to keep me busy. I applied for a security guard position at a local hospital. Mind you my background is I have a degree in criminal justice, spent 4 years in the Marines as a military police officer, worked in a maximum security prison, have EMT and hostage negotiating training and firefighter training. I figured I had this in the bag! But after my interview I got a letter that thanked me for applying but said, quote, "You don't have the qualifications we are looking for." WTF?
I found it both infuriating and hilarious at the same time! I'd love to know who they hired. Probably the bosses 22-year-old nephew who played football and took a course in criminal justice at the local Community College.
Exactly 😂.
Usually employers don't even respond... Anyway, I bet they turned you down for being over qualified. The relevant supervisor was very likely intimidated by your credentials.
Same here. Say you are beyond qualified but you are not qualified for this job. WTF
Same background here but I didn’t apply to be a security guard just a greenskeeper. Because it was a rich country club, they had all kinds of additional requirements. WTH? To cut grass?😂😂
Overqualified lmfao
the most annoying ones are the ones where they say no experience is needed for the job. so you apply. You do have some skills and experience that make you somewhat familiar with the roles and concepts related to the job. but then they reject you saying we wanted someone with more experience. then why in the world did you put no experience needed in the job requirements then?
I once got turned down for a temp job because I had too much experience. -.- They were specifically looking for people who had never used a certain piece software because they were testing something that required no prior knowledge.
The opposite is also just as bad:
Hiring an entry level position in the mail room
10 years Experience required
Where are people meant to get the Experience working for your company?
I've been turned down for having too much experience. Which always translates to me as "Oh, you'll actually expect breaks. And won't do overtime because we say so." Hell, even being up front about how the job isn't necessarily the most exciting job EVER EVER EVER is a mark against...
@@lostbutfreesouland then they be like "You must be at least 18 years old". How you want me to have 10+ years of experience when I'm barely an adult?!
@@tasmeenbaker9912 well 8 years old is old enough to start thinking about your future career and looking for employment they will say
"It's like a dating app... except win or lose, you're guaranteed to get screwed."
😂 Very well put.
In a dating app at least the women can win, here, everyone lose
Bro i was on both at the same time and had to drop the dating apps because the rejections and ghosting on both fronts was really getting to me. Technology is amazing but it can really make people soulless at times
@@tiagobordin6580 unless they meet a serial killer, rpist or general creep.
@@missrebel634 yeah, normal men are fucked up in these apps
George Santos lied his way into $150k Congressional salary @@missrebel634
Let us not forget that some job postings are just a formality when they already have someone in mind for the position
Most people don't realize that jobs are often only posted to satisfy certain laws.
Yep, that happened to me twice during my job hunt. One interview was with a restaurant, the other was with an optometrist's office. The interview at the optometrist's went extremely well. And I mean so well, that they literally almost told me I had the job right then and there. Days went by, and I didn't hear anything back. So finally, I reached out to them. After a week, and multiple phone calls, they finally call me back and left a voicemail saying, "Oh we just didn't have time to train you blah blah blah." I was absolutely livid. 😤
@@AngryReptileKeeper As in the case for local government jobs. You see will posting for county/city jobs all the time that mean nothing. They basically have already promoted from within or hired someone who knows someone already working there.
I call it “the butt-buddy system.” I had applied for a position closer to my house three different times and it was obviously reserved for a buddy, only for that person to last 2 years there tops.
@@lelandgaunt9985 I interviewed for one position back in 2017 and while I thought it went well, the panel decided to go with someone who had more experience. The same job was back on the market two more times over the next two years. The candidate they selected over me couldn’t have last six months and the second time I saw it posted, it was strictly for internal candidates.
When I was 15 I applied for a job and was actually asked “what have you been doing for the last 10 years of your life?” And being a smart mouthed kid I adopted a proper attitude, made eye contact and spoke firmly “Well after I graduated from pull ups academy and successfully completed potty training I decided it would be a good idea to get an education.”
Edit: To those who asked, no I did not get the job
Sir, I hereby thank you for made my day 😂
Your a Legend
This would be funnier if it actually happened
😂
Awesome 😂. You made my day. I would have hired you
Jobs say nobody wants to work.
But it’s not cost effective to train or invest in inemployees anymore. And god forbid shareholders report a loss for a quarter
But at least they still provide free hot brown sludge that they call coffee! Lol!
As someone who has worn the manager hat. Half the time it isn't even us. It is the fucking recruiters and HR teams that get in the way. Meanwhile I have an opening sitting there for months while the rest of my staff is overworked to hell and back to fill in the gap all the while HR passes on candidates cause they are not the unicorn that matches the ATS computer prune.
@@e4gailthat and then after 6 months, you've "proved you no longer need to hire those positions" and everyone is burnt out. 30% of my direct reports plus me have been working 20 hrs of OT consistently and none of my interviewees I've approved have been hired in the last 10 months... They need to stop waiting for unicorns and be ok developing the team we actually need. I'm ok investing the time, but they aren't. 🤬
'shareholders' is just a nice way of saying 'slave owners'.
If thet do, boeing will lay off 20 percent of its workers.
I didn't smile the entire time, and my face fell more and more as the skit went on.
Not because it wasn't funny, but because it was so spot on.
Same here.
Same
In the back of my head just like
“God, fuck my life!”
imagine having a criminal record from years ago on top of all this, I feel completely hopeless
That’s the scary part
Reminds me of the time I wasn't selected for an interview because my application was too well written to have been written by an unemployed person.
Oh my goodness. Ridiculous. But no one wants to work.
Yea and this little skit does not address how most managers are trash. Its just a fact, most people are Not meant or equipped to be managers. Yet this is the case for most. I worked retail for almost 10 years and I can say after encountering over 10 department managers we really only had 2-3 really good managers. Some were OK, but then there was also a few that really make you question things.
I was rejected for a job because I was "Overqualified", the job was in the Produce Section of a grocery store. I worked in another grocery store 10 years previously.
@@douglasduda9826 managers do not want the best person for the job. They only want the best person for them as an individual.
@@ChrisDragon531That's just corpo-speech for "we want someone we can take advantage of".
Job Hunting back then:
*shakes hands*
"Wow, what a strong hand shake! Sir, would you like to have a well paid job that feeds your family and pays your new house while your wife takes care of your children fulltime and you retire early?"
Job Hunting now:
"We expect the entry level applicants to have 5 years of relevant experience and at least successfully operating 1x start-up by the time they graduate"
Job Hunting when my kids are grown:
"Didn´t you learn anything at Harvard Med School?! McDonalds does not hire below PHD level hahaha get out looser"
It is not who you know but who you blow
I'm currently applying for graduate roles, and the application experience is so different to how my internship boss got his job after graduation.
This was about 30 years ago, he had a recruiter find a bunch of jobs for him all ready to book an interview straight away, no real application needed, and it was actually face to face with a boss.
My experience now, spend 1 hour filling in the online application, asking for my resume along with entering everything from my resume onto the website.
Creating a long cover letter, specifically for that company and role.
Complete 2 hours of exams online.
Complete a video interview, where you don't speak to anybody you just record yourself answering questions that come up on the screen.
Complete an assessment centre, probably online where once again you still haven't spoken to a single person in the company.
After all of this, the application is submitted and in the rare instance your application is chosen, you're invited to another interview (online of course) where you finally get to speak to a person.
All of this for a £30k salary entry level temporary role
I like how you spelled loser "looser". Deep
@@DAG_42 you know, I am something of an artist myself
The loosers be on the lose
Darnit, Roger, you were supposed to give us a nice little Halloween scare, not full-blown nightmare fuel!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Roger's keeping it real
The worst part is that it's real.
If Honest Ads were wise as duck 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖
Horror, like comedy, is most poignant when its roots are firmly in the soil of truth...
As someone who applied for 100+ jobs on indeed and got one interview, this video is so accurate 😊
You got 1 more than me.
Was that interview successful?
@@NyanyiC Yes I am a General manager at jimmy Johns
... And you can still add a smiley face.
@@a.d.b535 if you don't laugh, you will cry
I use all of Roger's products, and go to every business he owns! That's why I'm hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt
😂
hundreds of thousands of *face pages* in debt. 😉
Just use Roger's Debt Relief.
What could go wrong?
We're all born about $300,000 in debt - that's about how much it costs to raise a child
@@Logan7281X Oh don't worry! I've been doing that for a couple years now
As I get older, I've learned that the phrase "Fake it 'til you make it" applies to life more and more.
Fake it to get Backfired.
Until what you faked cant be proved on the job
@@calipdis2Entry level roles deserve entry level work.
It really does
All of society is fake so that makes sense.
I hate it when the person interviewing me ask, "why do you want a job with us?" It's like, "to make money in order to live." Like, what do they expect people to say?
Oh they want you to stroke their ego to make you think this company will be your sole passion, religion, and drive in life. They want to be bigger than Jesus.
That it’s their “dream job.” 😂
Yes especially if it's a low paying job. Like am I supposed to say how I LOVE to be a dishwasher or cashier 😂 just give me the damn job
I got my job by giving a different answer. "My parents are rich business owners and I just wanna make them proud. Also we went to the same college so I wanna look for a college level job".
Im not joking, this is literally how I got it and it worked.
They want you to say how much you love the company and dream in work with them since childhood.
You forgot the part where most companies, (especially in smaller cities/towns), will only hire applicants as a last resort. The majority of the time the only way to get your application actually considered is to know someone who works at the company or be a "friend of a friend". As a result even if you do get hired, you find out quickly that either the job is horrible and doesn't pay enough, hence why they were so desperate, or you find out that they expect you to work ten times as hard as the other employees because said other employees are closer on a more personal level with the higher ups.
And everyone speaks out against corruption and nepotism
This
@@NyanyiC As they used to say in the business, it's just business.
I had a job like that. It was their policy that you got in because you know someone, were related, or you came in as a temp and they liked you enough to hire you. That is a terrible way to do business.
a lot of the time, the job listings you see were put up because they were required to. They already had someone picked out, putting up the listing was just going through the motions they had to in order to hire them. You never had a chance. For the few where you actually have a chance? There's a reason and it's not good.
"Nobody wants to work anymore" they say as we are stuck in this endless maze of the worst websites ever created as job gatekeepers and all the job descriptions are so esoteric I don't know if I'm applying to be a NASA astronaut or a janitor at 7-11. And both only pay $10/hr which you don't find out until after interview number 3.
And lying about pay. Once I applied for a job offering 18 an hour. Got hired for the position and realized I was making $8 an hour. I immediately left and reported the company.
Esoteric indeed 😂
''Your job hunt is right around the next corner, but the place we built is round''
😭
True story: I apply for an engineering position at Boeing in 2012. From my first interaction with the recruiter I knew I was just using them for interview practice.
I get the job offer, and it is for 75% of my current salary. Not my previous salary from a job where I no longer worked, but from my still active and current employment. A salary they forced me to disclose at the very start of the application process.
Of course, I turn it down and get a phone call from a Seattle area code a few minutes later. She was calling to confirm that I had meant to reject the offer, and sounded surprised that my reason was that I wouldn't take a pay cut to work for them.
Bullet dodged.
😆 😢
did you laugh at her when she sounded shocked?
Jesus Christ man, seems like these shenanigans have been going on for years now. I'm surprised Boeing of all places would engage in it too.
@@dammitthatguy3107Why WOULDNT "Boeing of all places" Engage it in? From the comment you're replying to they obviously get their way underpaying just so employees can have "Boeing" on their resume
@@Dogman262 What I was trying to get at is some company as "prestigious" as Boeing doing this is surprising, thats it, I was just shocked
Never tell them what you made at a previous job or what you're currently making, even if they say it's required. You should always be ready to counter those questions with what your current salary expectations are. And always overestimate a little bit. That way, they can negotiate you down in salary and feel like they won when, in reality, you just did. If they insist you reveal that salary information or you don't want to rock the boat, lie: give them your current salary expectations. They won't verify this information because even if they contact your references, it's unlikely any of them will know or confirm your salary. (I've actually done this. It works...20% pay raise switching jobs). If they low-ball you, ask them to come up higher rather than out right rejecting the job. And try to sound like you're almost onboard already, but that you simply can't make the salary work. They may say no, in which case, good riddance. (I've tossed at least three jobs in the trash because they wouldn't come up enough, or at all). But they may say yes and you're in a better position from the start.
Getting a job was the hardest things I've done in my entire life. I've been actively applying for 2 years every morning and only recently found a job. That's also with a bachelors and associates degree. The hiring process is absolutely and undeniably broken. It's beyond beyond words and emotions to describe.
What major did you got and what do you do now?
Wow. What was your major? I just recently started my new engineering position after job hunting for nearly a year
Same here but with a masters, bachelors and associates....with 22 years in IT roles. Still unemployed almost 2 years now
@@anthonyharmon9265 I'm always thinking about how can this be changed, but it seems there isn't a way to change it because companies would have to change how they hire people.
Do you live in CA?
Finding a job 50 years ago:
Employer: "Can you breathe?"
Me: "Yes?"
Employer: "You're hired!"
Finding a job now:
Employer at Wendy's: "We're not taking any less than a master's degree!"
Me: "Okay...."
THIS. My dad is always telling us that we just need to go out to jobsites, show our faces, and demand a job because that's what he did. If you tried that now they'd just tell you to leave and apply online where your resume will rot unseen.
actualy its even more extreme than that, because in the past many people living in iron lungs (unable to breathe) have managed to find jobs
And people have the audacity to say we're in a labor shortage. 😒
@@lonesurvivor8828Well, we're in a cheap labor shortage, as in nobody wants to work for peanuts anymore.
Let's not forget the companies with fake jobs advertising. As seen many of them around me. 1 mcdonalds has had a manager hiring sign for almost a yr now. I interviewed for that and didn't get it. And that was at least 6 months ago. If they honestly needed managers. They would take someone and give them a chance that has an honest desire for the job. But since they don't really want to hire anyone that won't happen.
It's always been my conviction that if you forced an entire company through their hiring process a second time > 50% of them would be fired
And a sizable portion of the remaining probably lied to get through it the second time too.
The guy who started the company would never get hired by his company.
Thats why you lie? Do you have a Computer? Congrats, you just graduated windows university. Have a camera? Being a photographer is your new hobby mate, forget the damn bar. Ever been outside your hometown? Fucking internationally traveled and fluent 3 languages, even if its just saying "yes", "No" and "do you have a cigarette?"
That’s just the CEO, & corporate cronies. 😂
Actually, companies require a certain amount of their employees to reapply for their respective jobs when those companies are downsizing.
It's worse when you have older people who think getting a job is still the same as it was 40 years ago when everything was cheaper, people got paid more relative to the cost of living at the time and before everything was digital. Employeers don't even look at resumes anymore, you give them a paper resume it's going straight into the trash and they're going to tell you to fill out all that information on their web site... multiple times because a resume and a job application are essentially the same thing with the same information and you need to fill out both for some reason even though everyone agrees it's redundant. And then at the job interview they'll ask you for the exact same information again that you already gave them on the resume and the application.
Computers have made things easier for emloyers who don't have to actually look though stack of aplicats anymore but it's not easier for people looking for jobs who have to fill out redundant information 3 different times for every job they apply to.
It's not back you just walk in and get hired you knew someone
Tell the interviewer "All the answers to what you've asked me so far are on my resume. So You should consult with that to save us both time. Or is this company known for delays by design?"
My auntie was telling me go into every store and give my cv to the manager only. My nana chimed in 'isn't it all on computers now?' Yey nana
Ai weeds out, they definitely dont read
My sister is actually like this and she’s only 24. I don’t know how she snaps her fingers and lands a position but she does
100% accurate. 263 resumes in 4 formats, submitted over 18 months to more websites than I can count, and I finally got a job offer making 48% of what I was making for the same job I had before I got laid-off. I have a performamce review the second week of January 2024, after being in this job for only four months, and several of the evaluation indicators are asking how I'll benefit the company in the next three to five years. My 90-day "probation" period ends right after this performance evaluation takes place. Any raise I may get depends on my performance for this company that still has me under a probationary employment agreement! WTF!? And this isn't the first time I've been in this position! I absolutley HATE this system! There are times I've thought that death would be better than applying for another job. This is shit, it's broken, and I know there are millions of us who are f***ing sick and tired of this BS!
I'm almost to the point of just trying my luck in the wilderness.
“They don’t want people smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and figure out how badly they are being fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago, what they want are obedient workers.”
You're not wrong. After I left my last job that was toxic, I figured I would just enjoy life until I died. I lived on savings for a couple years until I did, in fact, die. However, they brought me back to life. I still haven't gone back to work, but savings is running out and I'm still managing to be alive. I'm not looking forward to looking for a job.
@@miniaturemachinist6098 I thought I was the only one at least I'd be with my kids and wife doing what I really want to do !
Why don't we protest and boycott these nasty companies and their practices?
During the 2008 recession I applied for a job with Purdue. The job was literally just a line worker putting 4 drumsticks in a tray. At this point in my life I had already had 10 years of managerial food processing experience, but I still received a letter saying I wasn't qualified.
You aren't. You would (hopefully!) leave as soon as possible bc you have skills that can't be peogrammed into a robot. Until they switch to robots though, they need human drones that don't need replacing....
Managers don't like competition
😅💓
They wanted you to work for minimum wage with barely any experience.
Purdue killed and maimed a lot of people with their oxycontin crap.
Brings me back to when I was trying to get a job fresh out of high school, applied for 678 jobs over 4 months, got 12 responses 5 interview offers, 2 offers that didn't ghost the second I responded and finally a minimum wage job at a UPS store
All I could land out of high school was a job at Burger King. It was hell and they fired me after two months because some geezer wasn't looking where he was going while I was mopping and fell and broke his hip. Wet floor signs were visible but apparently they weren't out enough so they let me go
Step 1. Copy the "qualifications" section of the vacancy notice.
Step 2. Paste it in the smallest font you have available in white letters so it blends into the white screen.
Step 3. Above your copy and paste, place your resume in black font.
Since your resume will be seen by an AI program before an actual human being, you have made it to the second round of hiring
I might just have to try it 😂 cause the AI Reads the White since anyway! Fucking genius!
My IQ is 135 and I didn’t even think of this. You just made my next month so much easier!
Thank You!
Hey thanks
copy and paste their job vacancy and then put that as your job description for your last job using the same operative words then you only have to do it once
#Genius!
It doesn’t really work. Part of those algos is to highlight on the doc where they find key words and phrases. Tbh your no worse off, using this strategy, just copying the post in the same font and color as the resume itself. I tried that once, got through to the screening and the HR person didn’t mention it. So, be careful trying too many hacks. The recruiters aren’t unaware of the workarounds
This video hilariously highlights why I hate everything about the job hunting process. I have a steady job I'm cool with now. But when I didn't, it felt extremely depressing and dehumanizing to be repeatedly rejected with no explanation. If you don't catch an employer's eye at first glance (on paper or IRL), you're deemed unworthy of a livelihood. Then society labels you as a lazy loser. And if you receive government assistance to tide you over during hard times, a lot of people don't even think you deserve that. Like...should you starve and be homeless just because you can't make a good first impression with hiring managers?
Exactly. And on that last sentence, if you were starving and homeless, that alone would immediately turn away any hiring managers. So basically, society just wants us to die.
NO! Absolutely not! However, the way things are now, even if for jobs that usually don't require experience, are hard to get. At least for me. I had to stop at some point because I wasn't going anywhere with it. Felt the same as you did before you got work again. Now, I'm not employed, but I'm going to make the transition to be self-employed, which was what I was going to do anyway since I'm more in the visual art realm while I make some side money online, which is close to a minimum wage part time job anyhow.
I've never been more concerned about identity theft than when doing my last job search. I just dropped all of my personal data, including my cell number and home address, on a dozen websites. Got tons of robo calls for months.
i always put a different address close to me, once hired just say you moved. regarding the phone calls, yeah, that's a difficult one to get around. sometimes i put a slightly different first name, if they call you for an interview, just say that was a typo. (i.e ralphy instead of ralphie)
Don't put your phone number; I don't care if recruiters want it; you can hand it out on a case-by-case level. But email is OK because it has spam protection; phone numbers have the worst spam protection.
If I needed to and had the money, I would name a "business" phone number, only for that type of thing, and also for if I get hired the only phone number they would have of me would be this one.
This is one of the understated and underrated problems with these applications. They should only request that info if they’re going to make an offer. They need contact info, obviously, but not your home address and social. To be real, they don’t really even need your full name.
There's business opportunity: depending on the fine print in the job application form, sell the data from the 1000s of applicants to a data broker and make a few dollars per applicant.
"Everyone is hiring. Why don't you have a job?!"
Hard to get hired if they won't even give you an interview because some unknown detail on your application makes the algorithm kick you out of their list of potential employees.
I had a store manager tell me she wasn't even in charge of choosing who she gave interviews to anymore.
Yep. Rough estimate, maybe 5% of applications end in a phone screen. Despite the fact that I'm very qualified for the jobs I apply to.
Straight facts. Looking for jobs is an awful experience. Write a cover letter, don't write a cover letter... Customize your resume based on the listing, don't customize it.... Interview well, or don't... None of it matters. You're one of thousands competing for the same job. Recruiters will find someone willing to work for less than you, and that's the bottom line.
People have to try working for themselves at all costs. Now more than ever. You can't play those games they want you to play. The system is openly broken and most of those job adverts are ghost adverts. Screw them and start something on your own from the bottom.
I went through a job seeker course while on unemployment. That was the entire thing - how to customize your resume, how to write a successful cover letter, etc. None of it works. My best cover letter, the one that seems to work is about 2 short paragraphs that simply restates my resume experience. I have never bothered to customize my resume.
Whatever you do, 9/10ths of all the applications or more are filed in the round filing cabinet ( binned ) without being opened.
@@evarojas2567 Then watch as your business fails because you can't possibly compete with megacorporations and their franchises, leaving you broke, broken and completely exhausted, reduced to going on welfare. That's what happened to an older gentleman I work with. He now does a petty job for no money since he's required to work some hours to be eligible for welfare.
Accept that they never do find anyone... Or not anyone with any intelligence. These companies are always complaining that they can't find anyone.
Oh, and don't forget during the interview, you have to be prepared to instantly and perfectly answer any question that begins with "tell me about a time that you..." (hint: just make shit up).
There's a finite set of questions like that and they overlap a bunch. So I make a chart with my answers that I can morf and practice it from memory. This way I can keep the lies straight!
"Tell me about a time that you solved a difficult problem"
Like dawg that happened everyday and I will need to explain in full the meticulous process the company makes me go through to perform my job that is very difficult to explain to someone who hasn't work there for at least a month.
So yeah just make shit up.
@@oklanime My last job I had I answered that question by explaining the job search process today. My interviewer looked horrified and I was hired on the spot. They were with the company for 20 years and legit had no idea how bad it had got.
Don't just make sh1t up on the spot. Make sh1t up BEFOREHAND! Then you can regurgitate it in a believable manner.
30 years of experience and 5 Superbowl rings 😂.. Jobs do be over the top with the experience stuff only to pay $30,000 a year 😒
And only complying with the letter of the law on posting salary ranges. $15k - 500k? 😂
@@mandisaw Exactly, that's so vague lol. Not to mention once you get the job they hire you for one thing then cross train you for 2 other people jobs 😂
😂😂😂
@@sturner973 I actually don't mind that part - all those "extra" experiences made me a more valuable candidate for the next job. Gotta make sure it pays-off though, in a promotion or salary-bump, otherwise it's time for a new position.
@@mandisawyeah, it depends a bit on the situation but usually it's good for your resume if your employer occasionally lets you do tasks that aren't strictly within the job-description
Things I've done for job applications:
1: Set up job notifications across 6 different websites and employers.
2: Custom resume and cover letter.
3: Personality quiz.
4: Timed attention to detail test emailed to me at 1 am as a "last chance to respond".
5: Edited an excel spreadsheet without the required software as it would have cost over $300.
6: Read about 600 pages of documents to write a brief in 48 hours.
7: Delivered a 30 minute presentation to three evaluators.
8: Interviewed for 90 minutes answering 14 questions with 12 different reviewers.
9: Waited 3 weeks after the interview to prompt them only to get the generic rejection letter, and upon follow up, be informed that specific ways in which I'd followed the instructions lost me points in the application system.
10: Got a masters degree, several years of work and volunteer experience, and still get rejections even for the jobs that only ask for a high school diploma and 6 months experience.
I would love to see how roger exposes HR.
How interviews SHOULD go if companies actually valued honesty:
Interviewer: “Tell us a little bit about yourself.”
Applicant: “Why did you have me take the time to write and submit a resume if you’re just gonna ask me to describe myself anyway? My resume LITERALLY does that, in great detail.”
Interviewer: “Why do you want to work here?”
Applicatant: “Because I need money and you’re hiring.”
Interviewer: “Where do you see yourself in 5 years?”
Applicant: “Hopefully at a better paying job with better benefits, or better yet I strike it rich and can retire early.”
Last answer: Your boss, chturd.
This reminds me of a meme I saw recently:
“So what made you apply to OUR company?”
“I’m just really passionate about being able to afford food.”
@@HotelMari0Maker😂😂😂😂
"Applicant: "Why did you make me take the time to write and submit a resume if you're just gonna ask me to describe myself anyway? My resume LITERALLY does that, in great detail."
Interviewer: "I'm sorry, but I cant hire you if you're going to be disrespectful to me like this. Good luck with your endeavors!" *and he leaves*
There you go, fixed that part for you.
I usually get a very good response in interviews when I say something like this:
"I know you've seen my resume, so I'll skip that information, and instead I'll explain my motivations and why I took this path..."
My favorite thing is that in the end, every job recruiting site just redirects you to Amazon warehouse job openings.
We are all destined to work at Amazon
@@selfloathingweeklyIn 20 years, Jeff Bezos will rule the world, and we will all just deliver our own packages.
they've turned around so many people they're running out of people to hire. I don't care if there's an opening. I'd take death before working for Amazon.
Yeah that's what it seems like.
😂😂
"Statistically, you'll need to apply for 200 jobs before this nightmare ends."
This reminds me of when I was looking for a job in St. Louis in 2010. I applied to something like 45 different places, all of them retail or fast food, and never got so much as an interview despite their claims to be "now hiring." I settled for being an independent contractor writing web content in the comfort of my own home instead. The income was shit, but it paid my bills, and it was a hell of a lot less stressful and came with way more freedom and flexibility than those other jobs.
Fun fact: When places say they're hiring, they're probably not actually hiring. They just want to stockpile applications and resumes.
It's ridiculous. In the last five years, I've filled out over 2000+ applications and still no job. The process needs to be changed
I have applied to multiple thousands over the last 20 years never got a job related to my degree nor one that paid over 31k and that was my first job. I can say now I only apply to what I really want to do and at interview I have more of an attitude now and I am very honest and straight forward I am almost don't give a shit if the phony asses don't want to hire me
It's all a con... they won't ever change it. Then theyll turn to technology. Humans will be obsolete. That's the world we live in..
Im considering moving into sf despite it being "trash". It's mainly because of business and car theft and homeless problem. But the homless problem doesnt bug me away from sf and I don't even have a driver liscense.Dont plan on owning a car since my dream city is the worst city to own a car. Apparently it takes too long to find a basic job so I'll just wrack up aso many side hustles to the point I have a full time worth of it with fulltime pay. From preasure washing cleaning houses flipping electronics etc.
A lot will use it as a way to determine pay levels for existing jobs i.e. they get a lot of applicants they will think they are paying too much!
As somebody who is currently searching for a job in a horrendous job market this is so accurate 😂 The amount of companies that are always urgently hiring yet have a list of requirements that 90% of the population doesn't have is absurd. Then you add on the ridiculous pay, insanely long hours, and all the bad reviews and it's no surprise at all they are always urgently hiring.
Don’t forget the application skill and/or personality tests. And sometimes a writing assignment.
Consider lying. It does wonders. True story, half the jobs that I apply for, I call three days later and state that I'm calling back to schedule an interview. You'd be surprised how seldomly I get caught doing that.
@@teegan4613 Dude thanks for the lifehack. Thanks to you I might not go homeless
@@teegan4613This takes some balls. Did you legit do this?
The HR department knows that the requirements are unrealistic and more than necessary. The only reason that they do that is if there is ever a hiring discrimination lawsuit against them, they dont have to deal with it. They can say, "the applicant did not meet our qualifications."
You left out…
"And all that we're an equal opportunity employer mumbo-jumbo is just that. The only reason we say this is to avoid endless lawsuits for hiring discrimination. Sure, the Americans With Disabilities Act has been in place since 1990, but we've long since found ways to say we won't hire you because of your disability without directly saying it; and that's regardless of whether you disclose this fact about yourself ahead of time or it comes up when you show up for the interrogation."
Equal opportunity = "We won't hire you if you're disabled or white, but gosh darn, if you have a weird sex kink, you're in."
@@RanstoneSpoken like someone who doesn’t touch grass
@@Pacemaker_fgc And by golly their touch starved it's their kink what's yours!*
*The asterik denotes that the previous is a rhetorical question.
And I'll have to start leaving my cane at home; that, and change the clouded over/dead look of my eyes LOL.
Spoken like someone who sided with Amber Heard and thinks inclusivity means excluding white or straight people while calling everyone they don't like "literally Hitler". Keep losing the culture war lefty. The pendulum is swinging. Go get your 97th booster shot so you can experience climate change.@@Pacemaker_fgc
“…but we are hiring internally. Good to meet you though “-internal screaming begins
Then why did they post about the vacancy for the outsiders?
To waste everyone's time
If an interviewer ever says that you can sue them these days. They are NOT ALLOWED to post a job listing to the public if they are internally hiring.
@@Nempo13That's why they don't say that. They do it, but they just ghost the applicants or give a bullshit reason instead.
When I was in high school, they told us to avoid embellishing our experience and job titles because it would look like we're trying to pad our resumes, and now I've noticed that this exact practice has become part of the corporate lingo because it's now viewed as a more professional way to speak.
Job recruiters: Nobody wants to work anymore.
Qualified applicants: **opens sole proprietorship to avoid the hassles and scams of job hunting**
This.
I did that. Couldn't find an industrial chemistry-related job so dusted off my old electrical contractor's license to do odd jobs troubleshooting and repairing stuff for folks at homes and small commercial buildings. Also a sideline business installing television antennas for folks who had 'cut off cable TV' so they can watch broadcast TV without having to use a streaming service. Worked out fine, and no I won't help you with your chem issue unless you want to pay me my going electrical rate. FU!
I did that.
@@geoffturner1487 ❤
So true. I'm trying to go out on my own. Job hunting seems a quick way to die.
Also forgot to mention how every job would rather just delete the position and shift work on the existing employees, increasing their burden for no extra compensation than train a new person and make them feel welcome for a few weeks and pay them. They always choose the selfish option to keep their money until forced.
But will happily increase the budget for endless restructures that don't work and that they didn't consult any of the people actually already doing the job on, and to hire more upper and upper-middle managers to come up with the "vision" for the company that justifies said restructures, and whose entire job is having meetings with other upper and upper-middle managers without implementing or even really overseeing any of the outcomes of those meetings themselves.
My assumption that it's about saving money evaporated when companies en masse opted to force people back into the office after remote and hybrid working in 2020 despite most of them seeing increased productivity, decreased running costs, and a decrease in employee absences. They didn't care that letting employees remote work was cheaper and generated greater profit, they just wanted to ensure the worker ants were sufficiently miserable and micro-managed to provide a satisfying contrast to their own wealth and freedom
Getting war flashbacks to all the Cover letters I had to submit along side a CV (Resume) until one day I snapped and wrote a cover letter noting how dumb cover letters are as a whole and how they're never actually read, they're just expected.
And I actually had a follow up interview from that job and they never mentioned the Cover Letter....
Yeah cover letters are dumb and i find them more of an ego boost to the conpany
I wanna high five you for that.
Nv submitted a cover letter in my life. My record was 3 days when it comes to getting a new job. Y'all need to gain some specialised skills instead of trying to work at a call center
@@wsrtwetrwhat wrong with a call center
I just chatgpt my cover letters now. Tell it to lie a little
I get that comedy is supposed to reflect truth but you still have to tell some jokes. This is just an accurate representation of the job market, I don't need to see this I'm living it right now.
I once heard a hiring manager say "I don't want to hire someone who seems too desperate for the job. It makes me suspicious."
Regarding a person who followed up with an email and a call.
What, you want a candidate who does not want to work for you? Seek therapy, and stop chasing unavailable people in your life...
Suspicious of what? People need jobs to live lol. What a moron
In hindsight, I think this was the reason I didn't get a job I really wanted earlier this year. I was excited and happy in the two interviews I had, and then after the second one I got the email they went with someone else. A total waste of time.
@CAS671 I had friend who gave up on a job search. He aced a technical interview and a total of 3 for the same job. He got rejected anyways. It is utterly insane how hard it is to get a job just to survive now
My understanding of that is I don't want someone who's motivated and somewhat competent.
@@LonovavirThis is what can happen when a company creates a situation where their people are essentially interviewing their own internal competition. They have a personal incentive to keep qualified people *out* of the company.
As someone who has been on the job hunt since July, I can confirm that every bit of this is accurate
I have a seasonal type of job. (logging/forestry) Last winter I was laid off and took advantage of the free time to try and find a new job. Wasn't getting any results the first month, so I told my boss I wanted to take more time off to find a new job, because I don't have time to apply and follow up on jobs when I'm out in the woods working. He knows my situation and understands. I have insanely long commutes and I desperately need to get away from that.
I wasted the entire winter and early spring looking for jobs unsuccessfully, going into debt using my credit card to pay rent. I really, really want to get a new job close to home. But no one would hire me for basic entry level labor jobs.
@@yearginclarkeand then they have the audacity to claim nobody wants to work because they're lazy.
No it's because you won't hire them and ignore people.
I wish I was in Helen Hunt catering to her every need in exchange for modest per diem
@@demonjmh Yes...I've been hinted at that by LOTS of people when I've described my experiences looking for jobs. They either don't understand the modern job market, or they're being arrogant about it. It's an absolute joke finding work nowadays. Even people with high skill levels, plenty of experience, or people with degrees are struggling just the same.
The approach to education and job/careers in America needs a MAJOR overhaul. It needs to actually help people who want to work and be a contributing member of society, not cast them aside and act like it's OK to treat people like garbage and tell them there's something "wrong" with them. And you shouldn't have to spend years in college to get a decent paying job, if college doesn't fit your learning style or personality...you should be able to learn gradually on the job with experience if that suits your personal style.
@@yearginclarke paper applications need to make a comeback because the age of Cyber applications is obviously not working
I got an interview earlier this year for an internship in a publishing house. I met all the requirements (young, just graduated in Publishing, a bit of working experience but nothing crazy cause they wanted "someone fresh"), the two people who interviewed me were kind, seemed to like me, smiled, shook my hand and everything, even showed me around the office area to meet the staff. I was happy and thought I aced it but didn't hear back for weeks, so after almost a month I emailed them and asked for an update. Their response was basically "your enthusiasm really shone through and your resume was good, but we chose someone else". I wish I was joking.
I met one Profile once:
Young people who think out the box and want to try new things, no experience required*
Rejected without chance of an interview 😂
Those answers are just redflags
Then you realized how fake bs the job world is.
@@henkerrthis is why I laugh when companies talk about this whole "we're a family" nonsense. Like, no, you're a paycheck and im just a worker trying to pay my bills lmao. Companies are so fake.
This was my exact experience. It was an accounting role and I have qualifications in both, pay was minimum wage and I still didn’t get it. Publishing is a joke
When my job got outsourced in 2017, and my next job with the same company didn't work out, I spent 15 MONTHS trying to land another one. I hear it's even worse out there now.
Jesus....I'm going through this right now after being laid off in the tech crunch. It is painfully accurate.
Best of luck!
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I have a BS degree in CompSci, had good grades, a minor in math, with 10 years of customer experience with management and IT work. I'm at probably 75 job apps now. I get rejected for not having specific certificates or knowledge of an exact program. What was the 5 years of an accredited college for? And I have experience of a small business that defended solely on me to fix things. What I don't know I can learn ffs!
It's also excellent to know that our SSN will be floating around out there for who knows how long 😂😢😢. Having to apply for millions of jobs that we never get, is a scam and a waste of time.
Same, man… It’s really rough. What field are you in? I’m in iOS dev.
I know a few parts of this video were exaggerated for comedic effect, but the bit about statistically needing to apply to 200 jobs before one hires you felt 100% real. If anything I think that might be lowballing it.
It is... definitely.
I'm crying, and not just from laughter. 😂 This is all true. People keep saying 'oh just go get a job' like it's really that simple, and jumping through all these hoops just to get ghosted and rejected over and over and over... it's very demoralizing. All those We're Hiring signs that you already know don't apply to you because you're not the perfect candidate and no one will touch you with a 10 ft pole. You don't have experience because no one will hire you, but every 'entry level' job wants YEARS of experience, that no one will give you. I've actually been kicked off online applications halfway through because it basically went, "Ew, we've already decided we don't want you. Go away." What the hell are these people looking for, and why is this so dang complicated? Why do they give preference to people who already have a job and not to the unemployed who need it much more?? How much longer do I have to keep hearing old people tell me, "Just go in and ask for a job, it's easy!" 🙄
It's not a matter of go getting one like I can pluck it off a tree, I literally have to go BEG for one. And still be rejected for any reason they choose. 😞
"Just walk on down to the widget factory and ask to see the manager. Give him a firm handshake, look him right in the eyes, and say that you want to work."
All those rejections don’t define your self-value. Just spam the whole world with your applications. You'll make it, I swear.
I know what you mean spent 5 months on the unemployment line applying for alot of jobs i met the requirements for and maby had 3 interviews. Was so glad when i finally landed a job out of the blue and couldnt be happier working there :)
Old people are the worst. Back when they were looking for a job all you had to do was have functional hands. You didn't even have to be competent, and we know that because old people are always the least competent of your coworkers. Nowadays those same boomer hiring managers act like picky children who refuse to eat anything and can't decide what they actually want. It's so infuriating.
You can even be exactly what they want, and you'll still get rejected because the boomer's son or 3rd cousin called up and wants a job. The nepotism is fucking unhinged.
There's also the factor of rampant discrimination in hiring. If you're young, black, a woman, etc, you just accept that you'll have to put out 3x the number of applications as middle age white men.
What do these people want? Nothing, they want nothing. They discovered a cheat code where they can leave their businesses horribly understaffed, claim they're looking to hire, and people will just accept the understandably bad service. Because the problem is presented as "understaffing", not "mismanagement". And since so many businesses are doing the same thing, all those applications on file are literally just there to weed out anyone that has any level of self-worth or self-esteem to where they will only hire the most desperate people who will put up with way more abuse than anyone would ever reasonably put up with.
The system was never broken. Its job was to break you and it is working as intended.
That is astoundingly accurate. Using zip recruiter is literal cancer and glass door as well. Over 50 applications and not a single call- it's like all my applications go straight into the company furnace simply to keep the place warm. Getting a job should not be this ridiculous, do you want the job done or not? Am I the right fit for the company?.........Does your company want things done or do you want to sit around a table for on hour talking about nothing? Seriously, if you want employees, how about actually reading the job applications instead of shirking your job onto some other company, also if you have fucked off and waited 6 months before calling a job applicant......they're dead, they died waiting for you to do your job- got kicked out of their home, got sick on the streets and fucking died. All because it's a little too hard for someone to read a sheet of paper and make a phone call- fuck, send a text- smoke signal- something, you lazy bastards!
Exactly, there's no reason getting a job should be so unrealistically hard. I'm 38 and there's never been a period in my life where getting a job wasn't a soul crushing experience.
@@yearginclarke I've never had a job where I didn't have to have someone in the company vouch for me personally..... hiring managers are a joke.
@@claytucker5025 That's how I got started at my first job also. I got a few other jobs without knowing anyone. But that was a long time ago, and now all I do is struggle to get jobs. I have very few connections to help me now.
The only thing that would make this more accurate is a 1 to 6 hour long "pre interview assesment" that contains lengthy questionares and/or job simulations, only to be told some time after completion "we're sorry, you didn't get a high enough score to qualify for an interview (doesn't tell you what you got right/wrong. You can try again in *6 months* !"
I feel like this is part of why people stay homeless. Sure, they can get help to get back on their feet, but then they have to participate in this system, only from an even lower place on the totem pole, doing jobs that nobody should have to endure. Not due to the nature of the work itself, but due to how abusive the employers are.
Plus it's impossible to get an ID without an address or cell phone to get callbacks.
I have a masters and had to do a house cleaning job for a while. After that I got a part time a professional job (which really needed to be done full time) but needed to keep working the cleaning job almost fulltime to meet visa requirements.
I could then quit both when I got a full time but deadend and impossible to do professional job which I recently lost because I couldn't meet my targets (whatever those were - even my weak boss didn't know) 😢
OOO OOO THIS IS ME RIGHT HERE! IM ONE STEP CLOSER TO HOMELESSNESS EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A BACHELOR'S IN PHYSICS. YAYYYYY
Like hospitality, the managers suck
The only reason I'm not homeless despite making nearly six figures is cause my mom bought her house in the 80s. :) When she dies and the hospital takes her house I'll be on the streets despite working a white-collar job! I had better prospects as a call-center employee making 10$ an hour back in 2009!
"You need workers, I need money. So hire me" it should be that simple!
Then the gatekeepers would be unemployed, companies wouldn't be able to go crying to the government about not being able to find workers, and workplaces wouldn't then be staffed by desperate migrants paid in magic beans and hollow promises.
"Do you need money to survive? How selfish. We need passionate employees who make love wearing the company shirt while receiving the minimum that the boss is forced to pay because of the inconvenience of labor laws."
We live in a soy-ciety.. ran by feelings. It might as well go as good as your last date with the opposite human gender.
Kinda. More like "You need workers, I need money AND I can/know how to do that job, so hire me".
@@RedJoker9000 man, unless the job requires a STEM degree, it can be taught on the job. Hire, teach em how to do the job, treat them right, and you got a loyal employee
As a job seeker myself this is EXACTLY what the experience is like
Nevermind the fact that a lot of companies out there are that arent actually hiring but are posting "job openings" that will screen and have you take an interview just so they can keep your information on file if they need something later.
Been screwed since 2005. I'm getting highly suspicious that since around 2015 job applications now are for gathering and selling data of the applicants.
How the fuck does that even work? By the time they get back to you, you probably already have another job...
@@Blackspidy619Never under estimate how retarded companies will be
therye basically "back pocketing" you for maybe possibly future roles that may open later if that ever happens but youre right by that time if youre lucky youll have something lined up
Look at it from the employer's point of view. We have this guy we want, but he wants more then we will give him. So we stage mock interviews to get him to come down to our price. Or we have to legally hold open interviews before we can hire the guy we really want. Also I f we are not looking like we are interviewing, some bright spark in accounting will get rid of us to save money and look good.
I always loved that for "entry level" positions there were always requirements for years of experience.
It's pretty accurate. They're either hiring internally or the job will first be offered to someone the company knows.
The only two reasons jobs are offered to the general public are to keep the EEOC off their backs or to sell your personal information.
“If you’re good enough at writing resumes to live” 😳scary but true
Having seen actual job listings for "entry level" computer programming positions require 40 years experience and a masters degree for a Javascript programming position, I think you might actually have understated the requirements portion here...
40 years? Dang I would've loved to see that job posting. Most I've got is 10 years using tools a, b, c, and d (Required) for an entry level position.
The bigger icing on the cake was that they were only accepting applicants that are able to commute to the listed location.
This is why we have people who do things like hacking game developer companies and stealing the source code for upcoming games. Like if i'm a programmer and nobody will hire me unless I have experience, then i'll just have to get some experience myself.
Whoever posted that job ad was an idiot. You can learn coding in less then a year if you really work at it every day.
Personally I don't know coding. But I know other things. You want to learn something? Do it every day. It takes SOME time, but no way in hell does it take 40 years when you put your mind to it. Question and challenge that nonsense. But you didn't challenge them did you?
I remember when job interviews consisted of just 3 questions:
1) Have you ever done this kind of work before?
2) Do you have your own tools?
3) When can you start?
Yeah and it didn't matter if the other two answers were no if you answered the last one right you got it
Wow 😮 Wished things were this easy and honest today
When was this? 1856?
blue collar jobs are still like this man.
I’ve learned the hard way recently that accepting an entry level job just to “get your foot in the door” is no longer a good idea. You will NEVER get out of the entry level job no matter how hard you work.
You take the entry level job to keep a roof over your head, then you keep applying.
You take the entry level job to get your foot in the industry. After a year or two you apply to mid-level jobs that pay better elsewhere since you now have experience.
@@noseboop4354 that’s right
It's easier to get a job while you already have 1, may take a while but that's how you advance your position these days, current job not dishing out any raises? Apply to different jobs that pay more in the meantime, eventually someone will get back to you with a better offer
And you'll be the first one chopped during layoffs, because the newest person on the team is the most replaceable
As someone who has had trouble finding a job, this hits way too close to home.
Oh yeah. I feel you
I hope you find something soon. I've been looking for 4 years... my medical certifications and licenses are just sitting on my bookshelf...
@@zuleykatorres5358 I did find a job, but it took a while to get there. Hopefully, you’ll find something soon.
What is annoying with the "We want *this much* experience" or wanting six degrees in stuff that has nothing to do with the job, the company tells you to apply even if you don't have all that. They claim it is to weed out people so they do not get too many people applying, so they are making it so people who would be perfect for the job don't apply and those who do apply are "Over qualified" and they don't want to hire them. So... pretty much companies want people to apply for things they claim they need more stuff for but the company puts those up so people do not apply.
I learned this when I got a job as a maintainence tech in a factory with several years of mechanic experience. All the other guys had zero relative experience when they started. I was actually "trained" by some kid who had no clue what he was doing.
How else do you expect them to be able to claim they're hiring, so they can get that sweet, sweet government money and claim they're "creating jobs"?
Those are BS excuses for when they want to discriminate against someone without looking like bigots. "We just don't like your kind" doesn't fly these days, so they have a crapton of requirements they can point at to justify rejecting someone.
A janitor needs a bachelor's degree, or how else will they clean the toilet correctly?
When it's an entry level job and they require tons of experience, they already have internal candidates in mind and will almost always fill the position from within the organization.
I would love to see an honest ad for these insane job assesment testing skills you will NEVER use in the job
Programmers and engineers: memorize these coding assignments and recite them in interviews! Know all of the technical jargon terms that you'll never use in your job
Job: here's a brand new problem with limited resources, figure it out and don't use existing memorized code. Use creative problem solving and efficient design. Requirements call the algorithms thingymajigs and whatchamacallits, along with company tribal knowledge acronyms
Managers: why are new workers so bad at their jobs?
Around here, there are a lot of Scientology owned/influenced businesses and the hiring process for them has 2-3 "personality" tests. I wonder if you get to go clear if you work there. (I avoid them when I can)
@Actual-Trashall they manage to do though is annoy everyone for having to take individual tests that amount to wasting 15 minutes to be ignored anyway cause no employer is reading it, and the computer doesn't care if your answer makes sense, it only cares if you answer the correct answer in a set of 4 multiple choice about what you think is the best approach in a scenario.... so literally just pointless waste of time
That part!!!! I took a personality test for a job yesterday and it’s soul crushing if you don’t answer it correctly… as if that test determines my personality.
I have found that being able to turn the interview from "Why should we hire you" to "why should I work for you" to work out very well. If you can turn the interview around, you have a much greater chance of getting hired.
Makes sense...but these kind of proactivity would keep you unemployed, they need a slave, not an economy hero.
Yes, last Interview I failed because of that question. I wasn't in the mood that day, and as the recruiting process took a year, I didn't remember which position they wanted me in. I could say the classic response of listing my qualifications for the job, but I decided to say "You contacted me first, not the other way around, tell me If you want me or not". 🤣🤣🤣.So I think I didn't culturally fit
Exactly. Question their reputation and trust and suddenly they become concerned about their own self image. The very thing that works against you can be used to work for you if you exploit it. Use their own fear against them.
It's about control and manipulation. Just got to be honest about it. And if you don't mean and intend what you do (manipulate) then you're just being stupid about it. To pre-empt any foolish complaints about manipulation. You ARE being manipulated. Do it back. It's the game. Show you catch on and have a brain and know how to use it. Most people have a fear of conflict and don't even challenge others.
Fact is most people bring it on themselves and suffer in silence when they could speak up and challenge more. Both sides are at fault. But who allows it? Those that speak up have the courage to challenge such things. Which is rare. What I want people reading to take away from this is to speak up more. Right there in someones face. If you got concerns then state the concerns. People can struggle with wording of course, but better trying and looking like an idiot then not having tried at all.
Left out pee in the cup, sign release for background check that includes talking to your neighbors, the "survey" you can only answer within their parameters, and one place wanted a psych profile. For a janitor job.
We’ll have you seen the janitor at Hogwarts?! He didn’t do psych evaluation I am sure. And look at him…
Was it for a school district? If so, those things seem quite reasonable.
@@SweepingDeveloper For me, it was at Target, Home Depot, and a few others.
That's literally any company and job position.
I applied for a 10 hour a week position that would have me traveling between 5 libraries. The application had 3 pages asking about my sex life alone! What does that have to do with stacking books?
I have stopped writing personal letters when searching for jobs and only sends my CV. Makes the process waaaay faster. And when I get called to a interview I speak as little as possible. Only giving short answers to their qiestions. I started doing that because I was fed up and didnt see any point on wasting time when I wont get the job anyway. To my surprise, searching for jobs this way made it easier to actually get a job 😂
what you are doing is exactly how employers treat job applicants.
If I could be bothered playing the recruitment game again I will take the same exact scattergun approach.
Also don't wait to hear back from them before sending the next resume / CV without referee contact details.
my referees are five years ago so effectively I do not have fresh references.
One thing I learned during my last job search, ChatGPT writes amazing cover letters haha
@@snuffoutrouge5109 I don't think it counts at all. My references are people I've met years ago, phone numbers are probably not even the same, and it never affected at all my hirings. 😂
Having been made redundant twice in a row, I feel this all too well. This never-ending cycle of applying for jobs that I'm perfectly capable of doing, but not even getting a response 95% of the time is soul-crushing. Eventually I was forced to take an unskilled job for $6 p/h less, not terrible, but I feel like I'm wasting my time.
It's even more annoying when they keep sending you jobs you're not qualified for. Seriously, I made my account and put in my work experience and education only for the website to completely ignore it with their 'job alerts'. No, I don't have a college degree, a Bachelors, MD, or X,Y, Z license and I haven't gotten one in the last 24 hours! And it seems any somewhat decent job requires a degree regardless of how much experience you have. I have over 10 years of customer service, management, sales, data entry, loss prevention and office work experience but companies still want a degree for a mediocre entry level job that pays less than what I'm making now. I honestly think companies want applicants who are in crippling college debt so they'll be desperate enough to stay more than they want an experienced worker.
Exactly, I have two degrees and I’m honestly going to take them off my resume, they will nice kindling
This is why you apply anyway and use what theyre looking for in your resume. Can we also talk about why is it that you upload a resume but still required to fill in the same thing listed on your resume. Or how employers claim they are hiring but in reality it's just advertising.
The whole upload and fill in thing is pretty straightforward. They want you to upload a resume so the interviewer can reference it and they don't trust their OCR and see no downside to making more work for potential hires to fill out a more reliably computer-readable version.
And if you have to tailor each resume for each job +200 (x5 for minorities, migrants etc) , it makes it even harder.. This is disheartening 😢
Yeah, now instead of applying I just advertise my name to them to get my name on the search results of google lol
It was insane when I applied to a job recently and I about fell out of my chair when their site was smart enough to correctly fill in the entire application using a scan of my attached resume
You should see what happens when I put my husband's name on my application and have him set up the interview only to get the wife showing up. 😅
This is honestly how I feel. Studied Computer Science only to learn all remote jobs require years of experience and that there were almost no Computer Science Jobs in my area or they just send you to a training that requires a complicated process to just sign up for it. Or they want you to pay for training or something. I'm working at Walmart for one simple reason. I need to survive and not working means I will be in the streets or dead.
On a side note: I only got a job at Walmart because I knew someone working there. I failed the interview even after I told them that I can work at any hours and am a quick learner. I was applying to be a team associte which just means you do what your told or a routine. It is not like I'm controlling the whole store or managing hundreds if not thousands of different things that requires years of experience. I'm just doing a few simple tasks while providing some customer service and yet couldn't qualify.
You need 3 PhD to be accepted to flip burgers nowadays
I've failed the Walmart personality test every time I've tried it, answering differently each time.
I have no idea what they want to hear.
@JustinWilliams-ed2ug Wow... that is pretty bad.
@@wrathofainz I get the feeling they want someone who answers: "I'd ask my manager" on every single scenario question. I made the mistake of thinking they wanted someone who could think for themselves and not waste the manager's time. Boy was I wrong.
@@wrathofainzsomexs I feel like chains come after me like I'm special. No haha on meeee 🤗. Well, not directly. But there's prob a reason u didn't pass some personality test. Or idk how their hiring process is like. But have u seen some of the ppl they hire anyways?.. I guess I can't say ish bc I've worked in alotta warehouses
... But still. I bet it does take a certain kind to deal w/ the ..public.. I like to use this many dots bc it really puts emphasis on my vibes, you know? Gonna start doing this on my updated resume. That I haven't even done yet . .
I always hated that when job searching the hiring managers would always stress about how important honesty was. But my attempts at being honest during interviews never turned out well. You’re basically expected to tell them things about yourself that aren’t necessarily true but what they want to hear. And even when you’re going for a job that doesn’t require you to talk to anyone who isn’t a coworker, in the end only the smoothest talkers end up getting the job.
They aren't lie detectors and your truth can't compete with the lies of others.
@@joeleek9976They seek to weed out anyone but the best, if everyone wants the best, no one gets the best because there aren’t enough of the best for every company.
Is because the environment is so fake, that the concept of honestly is already perverted. What they mean is someone who seems honest aka a good lier, not someone actually honest
Both parties should be honest.
The important point is they are lying when asking for honesty, they are not honest. Feel free to lai.
So much truth. The gatekeeper comment hit hard. I miss the days when you got a honest salary in the job description so you know if it’s worth your time and talent to apply. I also miss rejection emails so you knew it was over.
As a currently unemployed person who needs a job to keep a visa, this really hit close to home😢 To all those in the same situation, stay strong 🫂
So sorry, praying you get hired.
become a companion at a Home Health Aide agency, you don't need any experience (just say you cared for your elderly grandparents for several years who had dementia). have a relative be a reference (they wont call anyway, but just in case). they are Desperately Hiring, there are millions of old folks who have physical ailments and can't cook, no longer drive , need medication reminders, light cleaning and want to live in their home not a nursing home. it's super easy work and pays ok ( not great but ok). if you hate the idea of changing diapers of the elderly and bathing them, you're in luck, cause most clients seeking COMPANIONS don't need those things done, they typically must be certified HHA to do that, so just Don't get certified, always stay a companion.
@@bluecrystalpalacenice
I'm in the exact same situation. Got so burned out that I've kind of just accepted my fate. No amount of grinding is going to get me out of this hole, I've learned from personal experience
@@izanagitco9435 hang in there 🤗
1) Everyone should just start their own business. The infrastructure is there to do so. And the world will be a much happier place. 2) if you want a job in a company, it really really helps to know someone on the inside. Just cold calling as a stranger (or applying online) off the street is much harder to land the job. Use a recruiting agent if possible. But I even find that the recruiting agents tend to do things that are self serving to them, ie, link you up with companies they know aren’t very good, but they just want to make the commission.
I've been using Indeed for about 3 months now. I've had more luck looking at places nearby in person or going to their specific website and applying there. My favorite was having to drive 20 miles each way to an interview at 7 in the morning, pass a government security check, be shown around the facility, have my duties detailed to me (including the absolutely INSANE work hours and mandatory overtime), only to wait a week for an email saying that my closely related job experience and attention to detail wasn't enough to make $17/hr.
Indeed, getting linked in to the job hunting process has become a monster!
Agreed. And some postings aren't even for a job - just a hypothetical skills so agencies and recruiters can fill out their inventory of candidates just in case. Nobody mentions the hours it takes to compile resumes that will be outdated in a few months.
Nice puns
Dad? Is that you?
Nice easter eggs in the comment
LOL
Them: Nobody wants to work! Me: I do! Them: No not you. 🎉
As someone who's been on the market for the last 6 months -- this is more real than it is parody. Hysterically yet disturbingly accurate. Well done.
The most unfair thing in trying to find a career job is when someone less qualified than me gets a job I applied for because of corrupt nepotism.
& then those people also never get fired no matter how terrible they are at their job
Or my personal favorite: when you've been with a company for years, give up all of your weekends for them (and catch lip when you don't, even though you're technically not onligated to work them) and stay later than anybody else. So when time for promotions roll around? They hire some schmuck off the street who's never worked a day in the business, because you accidentally madr yourself too valuable in your current position to give up.
Had it happen to me. I was far more qualified for information security specialist job than the dude they went with. Said dude turned out to be a former backstabbing friend who bragged about it to me on Facebook to rub it in. I asked another friend about it a year ago or so and I was told daddy got him the job because of nepotism. I knew the dude was a lazy sack of shit with no real IT qualifications or degrees
@chesterstevens8870 Yeah definitely only make yourself too valuable to give up once you're in a comfortable enough place. Ideally, without losing all your weekends.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah my dad got me my job… but to be fair I did major in the right field and I had relevant skills.
As someone who graduated with a bachelor’s in the summer and has submitted at least 200-300 job applications over the last 6 months with 3 interviews and no job offers, this is very accurate
Any luck? I’m class of 2023 as well
Feel you, try insurance adjusting if you can’t find work. Contractors also need admin people.
My experience as well. My entire campus was shut down between Junior and Senior years, the most pivotal moments of a college person's time there. I could not do any internships as the economy was shuttered and nobody was doing them. When I graduated, things were starting to open back up. I applied to roughly 200 internships in my field and was rejected by everyone. I am now working for NY state government and I have been loving it so far. It is not relevant to my field, but I love that I can make a difference in people's lives
And people ask me why I stay working at Dollar General. It's not that I don't want a better job, its that I don't want to go through this again anytime soon.
Or people can't even find a better job to save their lives and as a result HAVE to stay where they are.
Dollar General to the moon!!!!!
I just wish I could survive at a job like that. This year, I quit a decent paying FT job that I'd worked at for 12 years to go work at a local grocery store chain, making 13.75 an hour. It was less BS for sure, but I simply couldn't make it even in a FT position there too. I recently quit that job and am now working a similar job to the one that stressed me out, but I'm making far more money.
@@DAV1979Nearly same situation here (left a FT job because the company president made it a repellent place to work). Despite all my qualifications, could only get a job at a grocery store (after 70+ applications). Rose to FT low-level management and realized how they screw over anyone below the top.
Gotta get that ghetty green.
This is why social job applications like LinkedIn connections have become the way of finding new jobs, getting to know people in industries to get jobs. Sending CV online without getting the contact details of hiring managers or person responsible for jobs, is like sending a message in a bottle across the ocean.
I agree there's a higher chance of an interview and you will almost always hear back even if it is a rejection.
@@Mcspazz731 100% agree! most applicant don't pick up the phone, don't call to ask question about the Job or the Company. if you do that you suddenly become MEMORABLE.
I don't remember any of my passwords... 🤔🙄