That pizza looks so good. I'd love to eat every type he makes. Wish I had a spot like that local to me that looks just as tasty. Slim pickings where im at
Here’s the ironic part. Everyone who goes across the street for their soda will go to the ballot box and still check off names that have a D next them.
@killgaz morton So your solution should be to prohibit poor people from voting? Why not just prohibit rich lobbyists and politicians from voting? That would sound like a more viable solution!
"they're programmed to be parasites" Nonsense. YOU'RE programmed by the politicians to see them that way. In fact, it is corporations and the wealthy who are taking far more of your income. Income disparity is at the highest it's ever been in our lifetimes. The middle class is getting poorer, the working class are working two even three jobs to survive, and some people simply cannot afford to survive. Meanwhile corrupt judges are conspiring to imprison people for debt and non-violent offences, serving only to condemn families to inescapable poverty.
Every time they say tax money is going to schools (see lottery money for a good example), they just move other tax money that would have been going to schools and use it elsewhere.
That's what happened in FL with the FL lottery. All the money the lottery sends to education is money the state doesn't put up for education. Thus it generated no new revenue for education and just generated more revenue for the politicians.
Which would really make it a general tax. They sugarcoat it to make like its going to something beneficial. They always use children in this to justify their means.
In Norway they introduced a tax on candy and soda over the new year. Following that, ordering candy and soda from Sweden has skyrocketed, actually leading to a decrease in tax revenue.
@@andybray9791 you would have to if you are ordering by mail from sweden. A private individual can physically cross the border with 10 20packs without paying taxes to the norwegian government.
The tax doesn't even all go to Pre K. A good portion of the money goes into the City Council's pension fund. Plus, it doesn't make sense in principle. The goals of the tax are to make people drink healthier and raise money for Pre K. But those goals are mutually exclusive. If people stop drinking soda there won't be money for Pre K. If there's enough revenue, people are drinking lots of soda. Either way it fails.
Everyone is missing the elephant in the room. DO NOT under any circumstance hand your kids over to the government! Pre-K kids belong at home with their families learning family skills. Not being churned into utter slaves of the state.
I think of it as the City Council tariff-ing the new soda tax for the "work" they "put in" for MAKING the tax and simply being on the Council. Its just another percentage they take for their own themselves. And Philly has to pay it double. Some for Pre-K and an unknown percentage to their pensions!
Bernie's not as crazy as the idiots he's surrounded himself with. He's a good friend to aerospace and he's done a lot for Vermont. I wouldn't trust anyone who fetishizes Europe or ignorantly calls themselves a democratic socialist in Europe, democratic socialists have done almost as much damage as communists have the past century but ignore rhetoric, look at Bernie's policy making. he's reasonable and moderate, and he's got a big heart to try and help people, even if he's too fond of spending. But we need some people like that in the Senate. I wish the rest of the democrats were more like him. At least we'd be able to protect the economy together. Trump 2020
@@preen9212 the problem with that is that the current state of discourse in the democrat party bernie would get pressured and pushed into taking things way too far as long as the liberals continue to be crazy, increasing taxes on the rich is totally off the table for debate you'll destroy the nation by gutting the wrong class, the 400k+ a year, the HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL but still normal everyday Americans
Stossel, missed the best part of this story. How did the bill pass in council? Basically the mayor really really want this law as his legacy. So he "bribed" the council members with payoff of special projects that each members for their districts.
Latest I heard on KYW1060 was that the money is going into the general fund and not for the kids. Because BIG SODA is suing Philly and until it is over no money can be spent or something like that. Not fully listening, I was driving. :)
Everyday it seems Democrats/Socialists somewhere in our country come up with even more ludicrous and insane ideas to foist upon us than the stupid stuff already forced upon us! It would be funny if it wasn't so sad and oppressive.
@@elweasel2010 Whenever new income is generated "for the kids", funny financial math can be used to basically redirect it to any project. For example, in Ohio they legalized casinos for education, but then stopped allocating new funds for education; so effectively it didn't improve education, just boosted the general fund.
I live in Philly. In addition to revenue, it was supposed to reduce sugar consumption and make us healthier. It was called the soda and sugary drink tax up until they realized people would switch to diet soda... so they taxed the diet soda too... and any sugar or artificially sweetened drink. Tea, flavored water, punch, sweetened fruit juice, regular, or diet, doesn't matter. Tax it all. It's plain water, hot coffee, or nothing. Sooooo, your plan is to make money by taxing a product you are trying to eliminate, and to make us healthier by making sure low calorie and low sugar choices are equally unobtainable. Why that's just genius! All of these goals are mutually exclusive, but this is the kind of brilliant leadership we keep electing. The city council is a bunch of lying sacks of crap, and the voters are stupid. Great combination. Mr Stossel also didn't mention that 300 good paying jobs left Philadelphia. And here's the kicker. The tax was imposed on the manufacturers, which gets reflected in higher retail prices. The tax was never intended to be collected as a separate tax at the point of sale. Although retailers do display the shelf price with the tax included, many large grocery chains also itimize the soda tax on the retail receipt as a form of protest. So if the retailer goes outside Philadelphia county to purchase their soda for sale in Philly, take a wild guess what happens.... You got it! They get fined for failing to collect a tax they are under no legal obligation to collect in the first place, and which doesn't actually exist at the retail level. Absolutely insane.
This doesn't surprise me in the least. First of all, politicians are trying to regulate soda out of existence like they do with anything and everything they don't like, and second, politicians ALWAYS think that the solution to any budget deficit is to raise taxes. That's not good because people will move out at some point and live where the taxes are lower.
Jason Rasmussen Oh, tea bags are exempt. As are honey and bags of sugar. You just can't combine and sell them. No, I'm not kidding. For the record, I do low carb. I avoid sugar as much as possible. It's just terrible for you. But I would never force someone else to conform to my idea of healthy. It's the imposition of authority and the nanny state I despise. This is the same state that owns all the liquor stores, and opens one in every ghetto then bitches about food deserts and lack of healthy choices. Srsly. WTF?
They tried a 1c/ounce tax in Chicago last summer (2017) and people just stopped buying soda pop in Cook County. By the end of the year, they repealed the tax.
The next thing they did after they passed the tax was IMMEDIATELY INCREASE THE BUDGET BY THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THEY EXPECTED FROM THE TAX. Rather than reducing existing deficits. Then when they repealed the tax, there was much pissing and moaning in every department about having to go back to the previous budget. "We already hired personnel" and so forth.
Bushrod Rust Johnson - It's even more absurd when you consider that they expected the 1c/ounce tax to raise an additional $200 million a year! There are 5 million people in Cook County, and 12 ounces in a can of pop. Do the math - County Commissioner Toni Preckwinkle (which is fun to say) therefore expected every living soul in Cook County to buy over 300 cans of pop a year each AFTER raising the price! They weren't even buying that much before the tax. Bottom line - They could NEVER have expected to raise $200 million with this tax. It was all an excuse to justify spending more. And what do we get for all this spending? Most is spent on pensions for people who are no longer working.
bmac4011 - What loss? They aren't collecting less revenue - They just figured they'd be collecting lots more money and went on a spending spree, spending money they didn't have. The Democrats in Illinois aren't tax-and-spend Democrats. You can stay in budget doing that. In Illinois we have spend-and-tax Democrats, and that's why we're up to our eyeballs in debt.
The honorable thing to do would be to own up to voters and admit they shouldn't have made commitments they couldn't pay for, and then break the commitments. But neither part of that ever happens. I just got my property tax bill (14X higher than what it was when I bought the house in 1979 - That is, I pay 14 times more but I don't get 14 times more) and right there on the tax bill they admit that the county is deeply in debt due to the money they are obliged to pay retired county workers. They never think to balance the budget by spending less - like every private household would do - only by taxing more. But when they get more money, they spend it all, borrow more, and spend that, too. What do we get for all that spending? Great infrastructure? Great schools and institutions? Low crime and low unemployment? Nope. We get loyal Democrat voters and little else.
No, take money from poor people by force. Then promise them that they'll get some new and wonderful program to help them. Except, when those same poor people (remember, the rich don't care about the tax, they can afford it, but there aren't enough of them to matter) stop buying soda (or more likely buying across the street sending their tax dollars somewhere else) the program they we're promised is underfunded or cancelled.
You can't blame the scorpion for biting, it's just its nature. This is why government's original purpose was simply protecting people's property rights by using force to stop attacks and fraud. Beyond that the use of force is unjustified.
I agree, but I still believe taxes are required to a reasonable extent as a way to maintain public services like emergency services, national security. But I believe we should be pragmatic in our approach, cut off things are wasteful and not necessary, stuff like reducing government salaries from people who honestly earn too much like this city representative, the rule should be that they earn the median salary of the people they represent, so that they also have an incentive to improve the economic situation of the people, reduce regulation and open the market a lot more to people in the US who may want to get into business but are held back by regulations, we need to get rid of a lot of medical regulations, honestly it is stupid that medical professionals can't develop their own medical equipment for selling or use because honestly that is how most medical equipment was made by doctors who developed the tools they needed. Also we need to reduce welfare and rather just lower the taxes of people who are recipients of welfare and I can assure you they are gonna have a better life.
Well when they wanted both parents to work of course, somebody needs to raise the kids...So in the 90's some crack pot bitch with blond hair said it takes a village to raise a child and pre-k was born. Thing is we know these days that really F'd up those kids with issues...One of the parents has got to stay home with the kids, parents have got to decide which one.
masterpainter78 I stay at home and send my daughter to pre K for the social experience, and to give her a chance to play with other kids.. it’s just 3 days a week, but I pay for it myself
I can never undertand why of all things pre k is state funded in America. Even here in the socialist utopia of Canada, pre k is (mostly, there are the typical low income benifit exceptions) private. It's a CHOICE for parents, and is seen as that. It is increasingly government regulated these days though and slowly moving to be a mandatory program.
Well it's not suppose to be funded by local government, the state government with federal help pays for education. So no, I really doubt city tax money goes to pay for it. City money usually goes to pay for local services, fire, police, pot holes, etc.
NEW YORK NOW HAS AN EXTENSIVE SODA TAX TOO. So, what do New Yorkers do when they want soda? Pay the tax? Wrong! No, they drive over the river and buy their soda in New Jersey!
Well wouldn’t not drinking soda be better i mean you save tons of money and your health is a lot better considering sugar is a lot worse for you than “fat”, now don’t get me wrong soda is great but a lot of these people especially poor minorities in the inner city since their diets aren’t exactly the cleanest
@@benjamintorres9211 Be that as it may, it is NOT the Government's ("Big Brother") responsibility to control what people consume. These taxes don't help anyone ( other than the Government). In fact, they likely hurt the poor the most. Poor people being prime consumers of soda will simply pay the tax, thus ending up with less money than before. Also, they are not as able to cross into and back from New Jersey to buy their soda. Government causes more problems than it solves.
Timbrock1000 so tell them to stop fucking drinking soda lmfao yeah let’s save a couple cents on the soda instead of water but have to spend a couple thousand later on in medical bills and medicine which will pretty much have to be paid by the taxpayer anyways but oh well at least soda is cheap am i right
Timbrock1000 you say that as if poor people are helpless children like can they not stop themselves from drinking soda, it’s actually cheaper to buy a 40 pack of waters than a 35 pack of canned cokes so the argument that “they’re poor” doesn’t actually work
@@benjamintorres9211 Poor people, just like anyone else can and must be able to make their own decisions about what they do, eat, drink or consume. Just because you tell them to drink water instead of soda doesn't mean they will heed your advice. The soda tax won't stop them. They will just pay it. Taxes on cigarettes have done absolutely NOTHING to detour people from smoking. From poor to rich, they just pay the tax. Wealthy people don't smoke like they used to. Poor people are however much more likely to smoke. So, it's the poor that are most hurt by these absurd taxes.
@@Attmay haha! 😏 I moved waasy out of the Northeast since I wrote that comment - it feels good to live "normally" again. Anytime I'm in the northeast, massachusetts, maine, Vermont - I put on that stupid Rolling Stones disco song "I will be your knight in shining armor, coming to your emotional rescue. whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo. .!"
I bet he knows exactly what he's doing, and like most Democrats these days simply doesn't care. And why should he? The people keep voting him in, so apparently he's doing an awesome job.
He reminded me of Bill Murray playing the mayor in City of Ember, where he had huge hordes of food that he'd gorge to sleep on, while everyone else was running out of food.
He figured out how to get a cush job, and if anyone has a problem he just has to say something that starts with “you know what you could do...” On a lighter not he did at least talk so not the worst
Just when you think they are running out of things to add additional taxes to, they start taxing food and drink. Whats next, city clean air tax? Tattoo tax? Theatre tax? Does anyone remember tea taxes? Anyone???
"Just when you think they are running out of things to add additional taxes to..." What int he world ever made you think that? They already tax you for _getting paid for doing your job._ How is _anything_ off the table?
In Norway there is also a sugar tax. A half liter of coke can cost up to 4 bucks. Our neighbours Sweden don’t, so they make billions each year from norwegians buying "cheap" soda and candy.
What about Corn Farmer subsidies? That's paid with tax dollars! I get taxed to deflate the value of high fructose CORN syrup, then taxed again to keep me from buying the thing I was already taxed for?
The fat tax is an amazing example.. fat isn't even unhealthy, sugar and carbs are. These are people that know nothing about science or health, but they try to regulate it and end up increasing obesity and alcoholism.
G.G. I guess you like to make many assumptions about my argument and then insert your own counter lol.. What definitions do I need to "get straight"? Nothing I said was incorrect terminology. Yeah grains are mostly bad for you. Most veggies have carbs but are often fiber that isn't suggested and is therefore fine (a government caused labeling issue that's not present in many countries). And either way even the worst veggies like corn and potatoes are still significantly healthier than processed sugar and bread.
G.G. Healthy in terms of the market and biology are two completely different things, but I think the government should leave health recommendations to the people that actually know what they're talking about and can adapt timely rather than going through bureaucracy. They also shouldn't tax or ban anything more than other products just because they don't like it. You should have the freedom to be a dumbass who gets fat, develops cancer, goes bald etc because of laziness to do research and accepts common myths as fact.
I live right outside Philly and it's awful. I worked at a grocery store for a little while and when I got trained they told me they used to keep the soda outside, but after the tax some guy in a pickup truck loaded a bunch in the bed and left. Vending machine and prices in my school's store went way up.
Anyone who works in service knows when prices go up, customers don't get pissed at politicians; they get pissed at you, and they yell and cuss and generally treat you like shit over something you have no control over.
Lmfao, I remember when the Philadelphian politicians got very angry at the citizens for going south to North Carolina just so they can stock up on a shit ton of soda's at the food lions when they have $4/11 on pepsis and $4/10 on cokes (12 packs) then go back home to Philadelphia until their next 3 month trip. Nice going Philly, you all brought that to yourselves.
If you are all confused, Food Lion has no limit to how many 12 packs you can buy, and you can buy as much as you want. But there is a cost limit of less than $100
I moved out of Philadelphia because the wage tax taxes income I earned in another state. Everyone I know thinks that the city government is corrupt and no one thinks that it's actually going to use the money for what they say will.
Self-enrichment. The sad thing is the city council robber rolla his eyes as he stossel poses valid concerns and he does not show any remorse. Tax and spend more.🙄
Who gave them the right to make any taxs? 99% of money goes right to the mayor and his buddies. Fun fact, the mayor fought this proposed tax when a council member. Pre k is daycare.
Derpster how would that address the fact that these types of taxes disproportionately affect lower-income citizens? Moreover, government has no wealth of its own, because it produces nothing. Everything the government has was stolen through taxation. So once again, how would this fix the underlying issue?
Taxes like this steer people to drink tea instead. Tea is cheap and so suits lower income citizens very well. Government produces all kinds of stuff like roads, bridges, schools, hospitals and armies.
Derpster I'm glad you know what "suits" lower-income citizens better than they do. Also, I think you have a gross misunderstanding of what constitutes production. Roads and bridges are constructed by private companies that are subcontracted by government, which uses taxpayer dollars to pay said companies. The government does not produce roads or bridges. There are plenty of private schools and hospitals throughout this country, that quite frankly, do a far better job then their government-run counterparts at a fraction of the cost. So, those are poor examples to say the least. Lastly, the United States military is not a product. It is a volunteer force made up of citizens, and their weaponry is produced commercially through military contracts.
If you don't like the taxes, vote the bums out! At the poles you check the name with the (D), then you (D)eserve what you get. Wake up people, Live Free, they want to control all aspects of you lives.
By his own admission, the councilman doesn't know about much. He does, however, know he makes over $120,000 a year for "serving" the public. I wonder how much of that $120,000 could be put to better use in Philadelphia.
It's bad, but not as bad as in the EU. The restaurant owner can move his business across the street, so to say. In the EU there'll be no where to go for entrepreneurs if they feel they're not treated right. Of course this was the EU's big idea from the start. I think it's not long before the lights go out completely on freedom and liberty in the EU.
Ruben Lensvelt You'll get no argument from me. Any policies translated into regulations must be carefully and competently designed, and followed up to see if they achieve their goals without unacceptable collateral damage. I have little confidence in politicians and government staff to do so, competently...
Yeah, really find it suspicious that they literally talk over the mayor as soon as he answered the question, without letting him justify his answer. Reminds me of the dishonesty of VICE's interview with Jordan Peterson.
I 100% agree with this. The amount of obesity in the United States is quite unreal, and the recent pandemic shows that a lot of people have had to suffer even more as a result. People who have a healthy diet and lifestyle and not nearly as impacted. This means that right now there is substantially more people out of work or dead as a result of their poor health choices. What this ultimately means is fewer people in the workforce, more people on welfare / unemployment, and much more medical debt.
Socialists never admit that their ideas don't work, so when they fail, they always say that the problem was that their ideas were not imposed (or funded) in a large enough scale. A sugar tax is not good policy because it is not the government's role to force people to live their lives in a "healthy" way, even if it is for "their own good".
Socialists never admit that some of their ideas don't work, so when they fail, they always say that the problem was that those ideas were not imposed (or funded) in a large enough scale. A sugar tax is not good policy because it is not the government's role to force people to live their lives in a "healthy" way, even if it is for "their own good".
@G.G. They are nothing compared to the amount of fat and grease people put into their bodies. I don't understand why politicians push against drinking soda and smoking HARDER than any other harmful substance. To me, that makes no fucking sense.
James Crews What other substances are more harmful? Due to their popularity, cutting sodas and cigarettes is the best way to improve health per capita. And I assume that you underestimate the unhealthiness of cigarettes and sodas. Sodas make no sense evolutionary speaking. We evolved in an environment where eating sugar would always include fiber to slow down the absorption rate of sugar, but we get 12g/100ml of sugar right into our bloodstream it disrupts homeostasis therefore rising the likelihood of cancer and diabetes.
I live in Chicago and last summer they imposed a plastic bag tax at grocery stores to collect funds for who knows what. People just bring their own bags now...
Creating pre-K when you can't even make the existing schools half decent. Never give more power to somebody who can't handle the responsibilities they already have.
I visit my family in Delaware County, just across the border with West Philly, about once a year. When I went back after this tax, there were people at the grocery store in Delaware County with shopping carts full of soda. I did the same thing when D.C. passed a plastic bag ban: I stopped shopping in D.C. and Maryland stores got my business.
We need to help the poor, what can we do? Lets implement these programs. How will we fund these programs? Lets fund them by taxing the poor people! Brilliant!!
Here in Australia, mayors (excluding the Lord mayor) have a salary cap of about us$70kpa and regular councillors get paid peanuts (usd6k to usd22k). As a result, the incompetence, corruption and waste in local government here is appalling.
Philly needs the government art! Who in the world would do creative or expressive things if the government didn’t let them to do it!?!?!? Maybe they serve some of that cheese during the show?
Some smart entrepreneurial kids will buy up all the cheap soda and re-sell it at a profit for the convenience of bringing it to your doorstep at a price that is only half as expensive as the store.
This is a little off topic but that guys pizza looks like some bomb ass pizza.
Lord Ruxlin Hogie I'd easily pay $3 a slice for that 🍕. Looks dope as shit.
It does look *_really_* good. I also feel for him, since the government totally cheated his business.
rosenjcb That's how capitalism is supposed to work.
That pizza looks so good. I'd love to eat every type he makes. Wish I had a spot like that local to me that looks just as tasty. Slim pickings where im at
Democratic Capitalism at its finest... Remember its with a D.
Here’s the ironic part. Everyone who goes across the street for their soda will go to the ballot box and still check off names that have a D next them.
Gmoney Mozart That guy even called taxation theft lok
To be fair, most aren't even voting at all. (which is a good thing)
@killgaz morton
So your solution should be to prohibit poor people from voting? Why not just prohibit rich lobbyists and politicians from voting? That would sound like a more viable solution!
Gmoney Mozart shamefully so.😔
"they're programmed to be parasites"
Nonsense. YOU'RE programmed by the politicians to see them that way. In fact, it is corporations and the wealthy who are taking far more of your income. Income disparity is at the highest it's ever been in our lifetimes. The middle class is getting poorer, the working class are working two even three jobs to survive, and some people simply cannot afford to survive. Meanwhile corrupt judges are conspiring to imprison people for debt and non-violent offences, serving only to condemn families to inescapable poverty.
Every time they say tax money is going to schools (see lottery money for a good example), they just move other tax money that would have been going to schools and use it elsewhere.
Like people on welfare just shifting things they funded with cash to being funded by EBT, freeing up the cash to buy garbage that EBT wouldn't buy.
That's what happened in FL with the FL lottery.
All the money the lottery sends to education is money the state doesn't put up for education. Thus it generated no new revenue for education and just generated more revenue for the politicians.
@@xenxander that's true almost everywhere such a lottery exists and again, the cost falls mostly on the bottom half of income earners
Which would really make it a general tax. They sugarcoat it to make like its going to something beneficial. They always use children in this to justify their means.
Texas Lottery does the same thing with "revenue goes to education."
In Norway they introduced a tax on candy and soda over the new year. Following that, ordering candy and soda from Sweden has skyrocketed, actually leading to a decrease in tax revenue.
our candy doesn't have tax lol. Think it was made in 1996
But u have to pay tax on products like tobacco and cigarettes, if u cross border trade when going for Sverige to Norge
@@andybray9791 you would have to if you are ordering by mail from sweden. A private individual can physically cross the border with 10 20packs without paying taxes to the norwegian government.
Finns do this with alcohol in Estonia lmao
The solution to this is obviously a higher level of government that can impose the tax.
The tax doesn't even all go to Pre K. A good portion of the money goes into the City Council's pension fund. Plus, it doesn't make sense in principle. The goals of the tax are to make people drink healthier and raise money for Pre K. But those goals are mutually exclusive. If people stop drinking soda there won't be money for Pre K. If there's enough revenue, people are drinking lots of soda. Either way it fails.
Everyone is missing the elephant in the room. DO NOT under any circumstance hand your kids over to the government! Pre-K kids belong at home with their families learning family skills. Not being churned into utter slaves of the state.
I think of it as the City Council tariff-ing the new soda tax for the "work" they "put in" for MAKING the tax and simply being on the Council. Its just another percentage they take for their own themselves. And Philly has to pay it double. Some for Pre-K and an unknown percentage to their pensions!
@videolabguy whoa
Exactly. Pensions is where that money is going.
Wow Bernie Sanders said something I agree with? Oh my god!
well, he'd agree on putting that tax on the riches
You only agree because John Stossel told you to agree. He is doing some bad journalism here too, very biased and terrible interviews
@@austinpage8189 that's just what all TH-cam ideology funnels lead too.
Bernie's not as crazy as the idiots he's surrounded himself with.
He's a good friend to aerospace and he's done a lot for Vermont.
I wouldn't trust anyone who fetishizes Europe or ignorantly calls themselves a democratic socialist
in Europe, democratic socialists have done almost as much damage as communists have the past century
but ignore rhetoric, look at Bernie's policy making. he's reasonable and moderate, and he's got a big heart to try and help people, even if he's too fond of spending. But we need some people like that in the Senate. I wish the rest of the democrats were more like him. At least we'd be able to protect the economy together.
Trump 2020
@@preen9212 the problem with that
is that the current state of discourse in the democrat party
bernie would get pressured and pushed into taking things way too far
as long as the liberals continue to be crazy, increasing taxes on the rich is totally off the table for debate
you'll destroy the nation by gutting the wrong class, the 400k+ a year, the HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL but still normal everyday Americans
To the government: “Stop stealing. That would be nice.” Couldn’t have said it better, brother.
Leave the country
Like it or not!! You're too morbidly obese that are scared to pay taxes on sugar shit stuff!!
Stossel, missed the best part of this story. How did the bill pass in council? Basically the mayor really really want this law as his legacy. So he "bribed" the council members with payoff of special projects that each members for their districts.
Latest I heard on KYW1060 was that the money is going into the general fund and not for the kids. Because BIG SODA is suing Philly and until it is over no money can be spent or something like that. Not fully listening, I was driving. :)
Mayor of Philadelphia let my people Free.....
Everyday it seems Democrats/Socialists somewhere in our country come up with even more ludicrous and insane ideas to foist upon us than the stupid stuff already forced upon us! It would be funny if it wasn't so sad and oppressive.
@@elweasel2010 Whenever new income is generated "for the kids", funny financial math can be used to basically redirect it to any project. For example, in Ohio they legalized casinos for education, but then stopped allocating new funds for education; so effectively it didn't improve education, just boosted the general fund.
I live in Philly. In addition to revenue, it was supposed to reduce sugar consumption and make us healthier. It was called the soda and sugary drink tax up until they realized people would switch to diet soda... so they taxed the diet soda too... and any sugar or artificially sweetened drink. Tea, flavored water, punch, sweetened fruit juice, regular, or diet, doesn't matter. Tax it all. It's plain water, hot coffee, or nothing.
Sooooo, your plan is to make money by taxing a product you are trying to eliminate, and to make us healthier by making sure low calorie and low sugar choices are equally unobtainable. Why that's just genius! All of these goals are mutually exclusive, but this is the kind of brilliant leadership we keep electing. The city council is a bunch of lying sacks of crap, and the voters are stupid. Great combination.
Mr Stossel also didn't mention that 300 good paying jobs left Philadelphia.
And here's the kicker. The tax was imposed on the manufacturers, which gets reflected in higher retail prices. The tax was never intended to be collected as a separate tax at the point of sale. Although retailers do display the shelf price with the tax included, many large grocery chains also itimize the soda tax on the retail receipt as a form of protest. So if the retailer goes outside Philadelphia county to purchase their soda for sale in Philly, take a wild guess what happens.... You got it! They get fined for failing to collect a tax they are under no legal obligation to collect in the first place, and which doesn't actually exist at the retail level.
Absolutely insane.
This doesn't surprise me in the least. First of all, politicians are trying to regulate soda out of existence like they do with anything and everything they don't like, and second, politicians ALWAYS think that the solution to any budget deficit is to raise taxes. That's not good because people will move out at some point and live where the taxes are lower.
Jason Rasmussen Oh, tea bags are exempt. As are honey and bags of sugar. You just can't combine and sell them. No, I'm not kidding.
For the record, I do low carb. I avoid sugar as much as possible. It's just terrible for you. But I would never force someone else to conform to my idea of healthy. It's the imposition of authority and the nanny state I despise.
This is the same state that owns all the liquor stores, and opens one in every ghetto then bitches about food deserts and lack of healthy choices.
Srsly. WTF?
Hiker Bro, run for office !
We have a similar tax here in Mexico.
Sodas, cigarettes, candy, cookies, cakes, etc. Because they said that's what makes us fat
Isn't Starbucks near wholly exempt?
They tried a 1c/ounce tax in Chicago last summer (2017) and people just stopped buying soda pop in Cook County. By the end of the year, they repealed the tax.
ROGER2095 - Damn really? Good to know. I feel like they had it longer and didn’t know it was repealed.
The next thing they did after they passed the tax was IMMEDIATELY INCREASE THE BUDGET BY THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THEY EXPECTED FROM THE TAX. Rather than reducing existing deficits. Then when they repealed the tax, there was much pissing and moaning in every department about having to go back to the previous budget. "We already hired personnel" and so forth.
Bushrod Rust Johnson - It's even more absurd when you consider that they expected the 1c/ounce tax to raise an additional $200 million a year! There are 5 million people in Cook County, and 12 ounces in a can of pop. Do the math - County Commissioner Toni Preckwinkle (which is fun to say) therefore expected every living soul in Cook County to buy over 300 cans of pop a year each AFTER raising the price! They weren't even buying that much before the tax.
Bottom line - They could NEVER have expected to raise $200 million with this tax. It was all an excuse to justify spending more. And what do we get for all this spending? Most is spent on pensions for people who are no longer working.
bmac4011 - What loss? They aren't collecting less revenue - They just figured they'd be collecting lots more money and went on a spending spree, spending money they didn't have. The Democrats in Illinois aren't tax-and-spend Democrats. You can stay in budget doing that. In Illinois we have spend-and-tax Democrats, and that's why we're up to our eyeballs in debt.
The honorable thing to do would be to own up to voters and admit they shouldn't have made commitments they couldn't pay for, and then break the commitments. But neither part of that ever happens.
I just got my property tax bill (14X higher than what it was when I bought the house in 1979 - That is, I pay 14 times more but I don't get 14 times more) and right there on the tax bill they admit that the county is deeply in debt due to the money they are obliged to pay retired county workers. They never think to balance the budget by spending less - like every private household would do - only by taxing more. But when they get more money, they spend it all, borrow more, and spend that, too. What do we get for all that spending? Great infrastructure? Great schools and institutions? Low crime and low unemployment? Nope. We get loyal Democrat voters and little else.
Government: "We have a problem. How should we solve it? I know, take money from people by force!"
No, take money from poor people by force. Then promise them that they'll get some new and wonderful program to help them. Except, when those same poor people (remember, the rich don't care about the tax, they can afford it, but there aren't enough of them to matter) stop buying soda (or more likely buying across the street sending their tax dollars somewhere else) the program they we're promised is underfunded or cancelled.
You can't blame the scorpion for biting, it's just its nature. This is why government's original purpose was simply protecting people's property rights by using force to stop attacks and fraud. Beyond that the use of force is unjustified.
It's not "by force". You don't have to partake in an unhealthy activity, just as taxing cigarettes isn't "taking my money by force"
reminds me, didnt we fight a war over taxes? i think we need to again.
@@dudebrofosho you’re free to buy the cigarettes or not, but when you do, you are forced to pay taxes and don’t have a choice
I applaud avoiding taxes wherever possible.
Go fuck yourself parasite.
He's so paranoid and triggered that he is ready to insult someone who agrees with him.
#CommiesEverywhere
Nevermind, I read it wrong, I am the stupid one.
I guess #CommiesEverywhere is actually true, LOL
I agree, but I still believe taxes are required to a reasonable extent as a way to maintain public services like emergency services, national security.
But I believe we should be pragmatic in our approach, cut off things are wasteful and not necessary, stuff like reducing government salaries from people who honestly earn too much like this city representative, the rule should be that they earn the median salary of the people they represent, so that they also have an incentive to improve the economic situation of the people, reduce regulation and open the market a lot more to people in the US who may want to get into business but are held back by regulations, we need to get rid of a lot of medical regulations, honestly it is stupid that medical professionals can't develop their own medical equipment for selling or use because honestly that is how most medical equipment was made by doctors who developed the tools they needed.
Also we need to reduce welfare and rather just lower the taxes of people who are recipients of welfare and I can assure you they are gonna have a better life.
"Stop stealing! That would be nice!" - cracked me up :'D
Yeaah so stupid right?
The forefathers of our Nation called. They said "Uh, do you not understand why we left Britain? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR EVER-LIVING MIND?!?!"
When was it ever the role of government to take care of pre K kids?
Well when they wanted both parents to work of course, somebody needs to raise the kids...So in the 90's some crack pot bitch with blond hair said it takes a village to raise a child and pre-k was born. Thing is we know these days that really F'd up those kids with issues...One of the parents has got to stay home with the kids, parents have got to decide which one.
masterpainter78 I stay at home and send my daughter to pre K for the social experience, and to give her a chance to play with other kids.. it’s just 3 days a week, but I pay for it myself
I can never undertand why of all things pre k is state funded in America. Even here in the socialist utopia of Canada, pre k is (mostly, there are the typical low income benifit exceptions) private. It's a CHOICE for parents, and is seen as that.
It is increasingly government regulated these days though and slowly moving to be a mandatory program.
Well it's not suppose to be funded by local government, the state government with federal help pays for education. So no, I really doubt city tax money goes to pay for it. City money usually goes to pay for local services, fire, police, pot holes, etc.
@@h2t26 That's the point I hoped to drive home to anyone reading my question. We both agree it is not the duty of govt to raise kids.
Bernie apposed this tax? Is that hell freezing over that I hear?
Metalbear him opposing any tax is crazy. He champions health bills that rip off the poor and the rich just go over it buying better care.
Broken clock
Well, in the ninth circle it is.
What the actual fuck are you babbling about?
Brennan Davis Another man of culture I see
NEW YORK NOW HAS AN EXTENSIVE SODA TAX TOO. So, what do New Yorkers do when they want soda? Pay the tax? Wrong! No, they drive over the river and buy their soda in New Jersey!
Well wouldn’t not drinking soda be better i mean you save tons of money and your health is a lot better considering sugar is a lot worse for you than “fat”, now don’t get me wrong soda is great but a lot of these people especially poor minorities in the inner city since their diets aren’t exactly the cleanest
@@benjamintorres9211
Be that as it may, it is NOT the Government's ("Big Brother") responsibility to control what people consume.
These taxes don't help anyone ( other than the Government). In fact, they likely hurt the poor the most. Poor people being prime consumers of soda will simply pay the tax, thus ending up with less money than before. Also, they are not as able to cross into and back from New Jersey to buy their soda.
Government causes more problems than it solves.
Timbrock1000 so tell them to stop fucking drinking soda lmfao yeah let’s save a couple cents on the soda instead of water but have to spend a couple thousand later on in medical bills and medicine which will pretty much have to be paid by the taxpayer anyways but oh well at least soda is cheap am i right
Timbrock1000 you say that as if poor people are helpless children like can they not stop themselves from drinking soda, it’s actually cheaper to buy a 40 pack of waters than a 35 pack of canned cokes so the argument that “they’re poor” doesn’t actually work
@@benjamintorres9211 Poor people, just like anyone else can and must be able to make their own decisions about what they do, eat, drink or consume.
Just because you tell them to drink water instead of soda doesn't mean they will heed your advice.
The soda tax won't stop them. They will just pay it.
Taxes on cigarettes have done absolutely NOTHING to detour people from smoking.
From poor to rich, they just pay the tax. Wealthy people don't smoke like they used to. Poor people are however much more likely to smoke. So, it's the poor that are most hurt by these absurd taxes.
I love how John just exposed this crook. Just brilliant, screw all politicians
Stossel's getting better and better every video
dudes been based for decades. dunno where youve been
Right, I'm saying it's taken him this long to get good
No, he's not getting better. The Democrats are just getting easier and easier to make fools of because they're getting more and more ridiculous.
1:26 " it's for, what we FEEL is a good reason".
So we're paying taxes based on "feelings"
Liberalism in a nutshell
Yes...yes
Because feelings are facts. /sarc
@@Attmay haha! 😏
I moved waasy out of the Northeast since I wrote that comment - it feels good to live "normally" again.
Anytime I'm in the northeast, massachusetts, maine, Vermont - I put on that stupid Rolling Stones disco song
"I will be your knight in shining armor, coming to your emotional rescue. whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo. .!"
@3:55, "Stop Stealing." LIBERTARIAN MOMENT!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, that non stop smile, he’s living in his own utopia! He’s clueless!!
I bet he knows exactly what he's doing, and like most Democrats these days simply doesn't care. And why should he? The people keep voting him in, so apparently he's doing an awesome job.
the smile of a "legal" thief
I wanted to smack that smile right off his face. Stossel states some statistics and he just denies them. He doesn't give a damn.
He reminded me of Bill Murray playing the mayor in City of Ember, where he had huge hordes of food that he'd gorge to sleep on, while everyone else was running out of food.
He figured out how to get a cush job, and if anyone has a problem he just has to say something that starts with “you know what you could do...”
On a lighter not he did at least talk so not the worst
Seattle passed something similar. Seattle Costco stores simply advised their customers on how and where to avoid paying the tax.
TomRedlion Basically, go to Tacoma, which is in another county.
Now THAT is some fine customer service
Dave Davis Also listed were other Costco stores in King County.
I prefer to avoid King County if at all possible.
yep. seattle politicians are slime.
Why are there any stores at all left in Seattle? That place is nuts.
If you can't afford preschool dont have kids...
Just when you think they are running out of things to add additional taxes to, they start taxing food and drink. Whats next, city clean air tax? Tattoo tax? Theatre tax?
Does anyone remember tea taxes? Anyone???
"Just when you think they are running out of things to add additional taxes to..."
What int he world ever made you think that? They already tax you for _getting paid for doing your job._ How is _anything_ off the table?
If he is so concerned about people's health, why didn't he pass the law that raises the tax on food that made him obese?
"I don't think so, because we have a liquor tax too! LOL!"
In Norway there is also a sugar tax. A half liter of coke can cost up to 4 bucks. Our neighbours Sweden don’t, so they make billions each year from norwegians buying "cheap" soda and candy.
What about Corn Farmer subsidies? That's paid with tax dollars! I get taxed to deflate the value of high fructose CORN syrup, then taxed again to keep me from buying the thing I was already taxed for?
JRWperformance Go back to using sugar canes.
3:46 is the best reaction! LOL
3:51 “What arts?” 🤣🤣🤣
"Stop Stealing" Love it.
The fat tax is an amazing example.. fat isn't even unhealthy, sugar and carbs are. These are people that know nothing about science or health, but they try to regulate it and end up increasing obesity and alcoholism.
Sugar is carbs, you know what is also carbs? Whole grain, legumes, and vegetables.
Please, your definitions, get them straight.
And acording to you, isn't it a healthy thing to tax sodas?
Fat isn't unhealthy? So I guess the heart attack grill is now a "health food restaurant"? lol
G.G. I guess you like to make many assumptions about my argument and then insert your own counter lol.. What definitions do I need to "get straight"? Nothing I said was incorrect terminology.
Yeah grains are mostly bad for you. Most veggies have carbs but are often fiber that isn't suggested and is therefore fine (a government caused labeling issue that's not present in many countries). And either way even the worst veggies like corn and potatoes are still significantly healthier than processed sugar and bread.
G.G. Healthy in terms of the market and biology are two completely different things, but I think the government should leave health recommendations to the people that actually know what they're talking about and can adapt timely rather than going through bureaucracy. They also shouldn't tax or ban anything more than other products just because they don't like it. You should have the freedom to be a dumbass who gets fat, develops cancer, goes bald etc because of laziness to do research and accepts common myths as fact.
I live right outside Philly and it's awful. I worked at a grocery store for a little while and when I got trained they told me they used to keep the soda outside, but after the tax some guy in a pickup truck loaded a bunch in the bed and left. Vending machine and prices in my school's store went way up.
Just imagine buying a soda at a movie theater in Philly.
All taxes are regressive. End of story
Ira Nash watch my video "why taxation is worse than theft"
Anyone who works in service knows when prices go up, customers don't get pissed at politicians; they get pissed at you, and they yell and cuss and generally treat you like shit over something you have no control over.
If I was a business owner I would raise the price of pizza a dollar and make soda free with purchase of pizza.
Promoting obesity... Way to go!! Disgusting business owner you are!
Meanwhile, Philadelphia is trying to lure Amazon in with a tax BREAK.
If there is anything Democrats and Republicans can agree on, it's crony corporatism.
Lmfao, I remember when the Philadelphian politicians got very angry at the citizens for going south to North Carolina just so they can stock up on a shit ton of soda's at the food lions when they have $4/11 on pepsis and $4/10 on cokes (12 packs) then go back home to Philadelphia until their next 3 month trip.
Nice going Philly, you all brought that to yourselves.
If you are all confused, Food Lion has no limit to how many 12 packs you can buy, and you can buy as much as you want.
But there is a cost limit of less than $100
This would be considered tyranny back in 76
It’s bad enough they do this with alcohol and cigarettes, but food??? Ridiculous!
"Eh....idk"
"Eh.....idk"
"Eh.....idk"
Take a shot each time he says that
I moved out of Philadelphia because the wage tax taxes income I earned in another state. Everyone I know thinks that the city government is corrupt and no one thinks that it's actually going to use the money for what they say will.
“They can’t make more money when you’re taxing them to death” that killed me lol
When is the last time a new tax was passed and that money actually funded the projects they said it was for? Never happens.
Oklahoma City is a shining example. And it’s (mostly) Republican run.
Self-enrichment. The sad thing is the city council robber rolla his eyes as he stossel poses valid concerns and he does not show any remorse. Tax and spend more.🙄
Great vid as always from Stossel...been with him for years.!!!
A full DOLLAR of added tax on a 2 liter? Good fuck.. A 2 liter is like $1.39 here and $.99 on sale. That's a 100% tax.
Seems like that councilman was having a hard time looking Stossel in the eye through most of that interview..
Who gave them the right to make any taxs? 99% of money goes right to the mayor and his buddies. Fun fact, the mayor fought this proposed tax when a council member. Pre k is daycare.
I approve taxes like this only if there's also a law that forbids politicians to be overweight. Politicians need to lead from the front.
Derpster how would that address the fact that these types of taxes disproportionately affect lower-income citizens? Moreover, government has no wealth of its own, because it produces nothing. Everything the government has was stolen through taxation. So once again, how would this fix the underlying issue?
Taxes like this steer people to drink tea instead. Tea is cheap and so suits lower income citizens very well. Government produces all kinds of stuff like roads, bridges, schools, hospitals and armies.
Derpster I'm glad you know what "suits" lower-income citizens better than they do. Also, I think you have a gross misunderstanding of what constitutes production. Roads and bridges are constructed by private companies that are subcontracted by government, which uses taxpayer dollars to pay said companies. The government does not produce roads or bridges.
There are plenty of private schools and hospitals throughout this country, that quite frankly, do a far better job then their government-run counterparts at a fraction of the cost. So, those are poor examples to say the least. Lastly, the United States military is not a product. It is a volunteer force made up of citizens, and their weaponry is produced commercially through military contracts.
Rules are for the RULED not the Rulers. There is no such thing as a public servant as servants cannot command their masters to do things.
"Taxes like this steer people to drink tea instead."
The good thing is tea could never be taxed.
If you don't like the taxes, vote the bums out! At the poles you check the name with the (D), then you (D)eserve what you get. Wake up people, Live Free, they want to control all aspects of you lives.
Thanks for exposing the sociopathic attitude with which politicians steal money Stossel! You rock!
No one cares when the government charges high taxes on cigarettes. I bet everyone thought it would stop there. Hahaha.
"Stop stealing. That'd be nice."
Yes it would, sir.
Time to move that pizza parlor across the street I guess. Wonder how much tax revenue the municipality will lose then?
Just wait until John Stossel finds out about the obscene city wage tax.
By his own admission, the councilman doesn't know about much. He does, however, know he makes over $120,000 a year for "serving" the public. I wonder how much of that $120,000 could be put to better use in Philadelphia.
It's bad, but not as bad as in the EU. The restaurant owner can move his business across the street, so to say.
In the EU there'll be no where to go for entrepreneurs if they feel they're not treated right. Of course this was the EU's big idea from the start.
I think it's not long before the lights go out completely on freedom and liberty in the EU.
Well, that... actually levels the playing field, meaning that the taxes and regulations have a fair chance of achieving their intended goals.
European "social democracy" is circling back to good old fashion socialism and fascism.
Wouter Cloetens
Funny that you bring up the term "intended goals" because we need to talk about the term #unintendedconsequences
#ThomasSowell
Ruben Lensvelt You'll get no argument from me. Any policies translated into regulations must be carefully and competently designed, and followed up to see if they achieve their goals without unacceptable collateral damage.
I have little confidence in politicians and government staff to do so, competently...
Yes. Government stands to society as low density cholesterol to blood flow. Thanks.
What they're really saying is that YOU are not a good use for your own money to be put to.
Is there a way to watch the full interviews?
Yeah, really find it suspicious that they literally talk over the mayor as soon as he answered the question, without letting him justify his answer.
Reminds me of the dishonesty of VICE's interview with Jordan Peterson.
What's more to say? Him justifying whatever dumb proposal is made?
G.G. - It never cut him off really. And they’re trying to keep a concise video.
"without letting him justify his answer"
Honestly we've all heard it a million times. Why don't you justify this?
Guess what, people can live without drinking soda.
Hot Take: A sugar tax is good policy if implemented nation wide.
I 100% agree with this. The amount of obesity in the United States is quite unreal, and the recent pandemic shows that a lot of people have had to suffer even more as a result. People who have a healthy diet and lifestyle and not nearly as impacted. This means that right now there is substantially more people out of work or dead as a result of their poor health choices.
What this ultimately means is fewer people in the workforce, more people on welfare / unemployment, and much more medical debt.
@@StephenDeTomasi And they are using their EBT cards to buy junk food.
Socialists never admit that their ideas don't work, so when they fail, they always say that the problem was that their ideas were not imposed (or funded) in a large enough scale. A sugar tax is not good policy because it is not the government's role to force people to live their lives in a "healthy" way, even if it is for "their own good".
Socialists never admit that some of their ideas don't work, so when they fail, they always say that the problem was that those ideas were not imposed (or funded) in a large enough scale. A sugar tax is not good policy because it is not the government's role to force people to live their lives in a "healthy" way, even if it is for "their own good".
they tried to do this in chicago... same thing; businesses got hit hard and everyone hated it. they repealed it.
what about drinking water?
What about I have the right to do whatever the hell I want with my own body?
Bryan Chandler Yeah, but sodas and other products with white sugar are the most unhealthy products one can buy.
@G.G.
They are nothing compared to the amount of fat and grease people put into their bodies. I don't understand why politicians push against drinking soda and smoking HARDER than any other harmful substance. To me, that makes no fucking sense.
@G.G. And that disproves my point... HOW?
James Crews What other substances are more harmful?
Due to their popularity, cutting sodas and cigarettes is the best way to improve health per capita.
And I assume that you underestimate the unhealthiness of cigarettes and sodas.
Sodas make no sense evolutionary speaking. We evolved in an environment where eating sugar would always include fiber to slow down the absorption rate of sugar, but we get 12g/100ml of sugar right into our bloodstream it disrupts homeostasis therefore rising the likelihood of cancer and diabetes.
I read in a book one time that we started a war around taxes
We're not taxing them to death.....just enough to keep them alive enough to tax them!!!!
I live in Chicago and last summer they imposed a plastic bag tax at grocery stores to collect funds for who knows what.
People just bring their own bags now...
We need a politicians tax. 50 percent of their earnings above the median income, going to education.
Creating pre-K when you can't even make the existing schools half decent. Never give more power to somebody who can't handle the responsibilities they already have.
I love the council man’s justification. “We’re only cutting off a pinkie toe.”
"The thumb's next."
Every time I see Stossel I immediately get angry at the government. 😂
stossel is one of the best investigative reporters today. keep holding their feet to the fire john!
Now I know where to go to start my black market soda operation.
The comment about the liquor tax really shows how out of touch it is the politician mentality.
Based pizza store owner says taxation is theft
It's never enough taxes it seems...Whatever we give, these bureaucratic bastards always want more and more.
I visit my family in Delaware County, just across the border with West Philly, about once a year. When I went back after this tax, there were people at the grocery store in Delaware County with shopping carts full of soda. I did the same thing when D.C. passed a plastic bag ban: I stopped shopping in D.C. and Maryland stores got my business.
This is true with high tobacco taxes, it hits the poor harder than any other class.
Love the part where the mayor says, "hm I don't know about that? Because we have a liquor tax too" starts chuckling
“eh, i dont know about that...”
“mm, i dont think so...”
WE REFUSE TO EAT IN PHILADELPHIA RESTAURANTS (because of soda / liquor taxes)
I'll eat back in NJ
Taxing unhealthy food is taxing the poor. I don't think they realize that, but why do they care. They're rich.
We need to help the poor, what can we do?
Lets implement these programs.
How will we fund these programs?
Lets fund them by taxing the poor people!
Brilliant!!
We need another boston tea party
Cook County Illinois tried that last year and have seen a backlash so big they gave it up.
Yeah, anybody who's ever worked in the food service industry knows this tax is a bad idea.
"it's for what we feel, it's for a good reason for a good cause" - William Greenlee (D)
Philadelphia already passed a law criminalizing shops putting up plexiglass/ bulletproof glass.
Here in Australia, mayors (excluding the Lord mayor) have a salary cap of about us$70kpa and regular councillors get paid peanuts (usd6k to usd22k).
As a result, the incompetence, corruption and waste in local government here is appalling.
next tax on the horizon= bottled water
Government: we want to tax this so that you don't want to buy it
Government: yeah so how much did you make this year? Where's my cut?
Nobody
William Greenlee:uhh i dont know about that
Wow that is such a major issue, I'm happy you guys are tackling it!
Look how little that mayor cared about the business owners he hurt.
I have to walk 20 minutes to get out of Philly for cigarettes, too - but it's worth it.
remember how the big cigg tax was for the schools too? Funny, the schools seem to be racking in the tax dollars and yet no improvements what so ever!
Cigarettes are bad for you!!!
"because we have a liquor tax too hahahahaha"
me: I'm never moving to Philly
Philly needs the government art! Who in the world would do creative or expressive things if the government didn’t let them to do it!?!?!? Maybe they serve some of that cheese during the show?
Some smart entrepreneurial kids will buy up all the cheap soda and re-sell it at a profit for the convenience of bringing it to your doorstep at a price that is only half as expensive as the store.
I escaped from Philadelphia, call me Snake Pliscon