I agree with the dilemma at the beginning. I have a pair of horse rump Truman’s, and the machine lasting process tore the vamp around the welt in multiple places. Didn’t notice until after many wears. Such a shame because the leather is so gorgeous. Will opt for a hand lasted boot for horse hide in the future. Lesson learned.
Thank for another great video. From what I can tell it appears you don’t use shoe trees in your boots (specifically engineer) Is this the case? If so is it because you feel the boot will develop better roles when not using shoe trees?
Not as much horse hide gets made nowadays, so theres a financial barrier to entry in addition to longer wait times. I ordered my first engineer in cow hide black cxl to test the waters in that style. Just started production this past week and i cant wait
The PNW bookmakers use a Black/Red Dog Smooth cowhide leather that is pretty good. I think it comes from a tannery in Wisconsin. It’s thick so if durability is a priority, it’s the way to go.
What is your opinion of TPR coating? I have only seen it on horsehides for some reason. And I cannot get a straight answer of weather it is plastic or resin either. Thanks.
I like Horween Shell cordovan its the horse rump shaved membrane that is Veg tanned for months and its the most durable Veg tanned. Nick Horween said in a pod cast that they don't do much veg horse because they are after the shell aspect not to waste it
I have an original German Aero horse hide jacket used in WW2. The hide is in great shape and I wear it often. What do you wear on a rainy day? 😊 I love that modern mid-century lamp!
See, I'm the opposite, I guess. I would rather have bison than horse because it's strong but supple, but cow is the easy default because even cheap cow leather is going to behave in mostly predictable ways in the Price Range. I'm not the total leather expert, so maybe I'll change my mind and invest in horse someday, but most people will find thick cow difficult enough to break in for the kinds of activities they REALLY do.
Overall horsehide boots still make a little more sense for the reasons you state than horsehide flight jackets, which used to be the norm but now are barely cost effective, but here, again, goat is actually the more common default now than cow. Sheep is usually marketed as more supple, but is not really durable enough, and Pig is just cheap.
I don't know why anybody would need more than one pair of engineer boots, either, but I'm curious if horse would make better or worse cowboy boots for the money to get the style I'd want if I was really going to invest in some higher quality ones eventually.
I think Chrome Exel leather is overrated overall, but it still makes sense as an intro leather for guys who aren't going to spend time conditioning their boots or all that other stuff. I sent back the Grant Stone CXL ones because they looked exactly like the Thursday ones I already had, but when I need to replace the Thurs boots it will likely be with the GS ones.
I have that same boot in the forest kudu for the color, but the time I wore them they already got scuff all on one toe and that almost tragedy for boot that otherwise supposed to be so low maintenance a bit. Sigh. I don't think the kanga came in any swell colors for my taste at the time.
Wouldve helped if you say the name of the boot , just in case people would be interesting in biying what you showing , so this was disappointing for me seeing this video , i liked 2 pairs that you have picked up but dont know the name of the boots , smh
Horse hide seems less ethical to me. I get that a lot of cow leather is a byproduct of the meat industry, but I dont see a lot of horse mean going around.
Horsehide is a byproduct of the meat industry. That's why it's fairly rare. There aren't as many people that eat horse meat, but it is eaten in some places
Horse hides characteristics are just more aesthetically pleasing
I think so too
You have a lovely collection and great advice. My grandma also wants her couch and lamp back because they're pretty mint too 😅
Haha tell her she can't have then back!
I always enjoy your more informative videos.
Thanks! I appreciate it
I agree with the dilemma at the beginning. I have a pair of horse rump Truman’s, and the machine lasting process tore the vamp around the welt in multiple places. Didn’t notice until after many wears. Such a shame because the leather is so gorgeous. Will opt for a hand lasted boot for horse hide in the future. Lesson learned.
Oh wow thats a big shame especially with such a nice leather
In my bucket list to get Derby's or boondocks in horse hide suede. The rolls and burnishing would be fantastic.
That would be cool
Thank for another great video.
From what I can tell it appears you don’t use shoe trees in your boots (specifically engineer)
Is this the case? If so is it because you feel the boot will develop better roles when not using shoe trees?
Yes you are correct on both points. I use shoe trees in dress shoes, but not in my boots because I actually want the rolls to develop.
I don’t have any horsehide boots, definitely on my list
It's a great leather when done well
Not as much horse hide gets made nowadays, so theres a financial barrier to entry in addition to longer wait times. I ordered my first engineer in cow hide black cxl to test the waters in that style. Just started production this past week and i cant wait
The PNW bookmakers use a Black/Red Dog Smooth cowhide leather that is pretty good. I think it comes from a tannery in Wisconsin. It’s thick so if durability is a priority, it’s the way to go.
Yeah horsehide is rarer and more expensive. I just love it on engineers though
What is your opinion of TPR coating? I have only seen it on horsehides for some reason. And I cannot get a straight answer of weather it is plastic or resin either. Thanks.
I think it is plastic which is why I wouldn't want it on my boots. I've seen it look cool though
Great video. also, great jacket! Can you tell us where we can find one?
Thanks! You have to just constantly search online and go to events. It's a lot of luck. These vintage wool jackets are super hard to find
I like Horween Shell cordovan its the horse rump shaved membrane that is Veg tanned for months and its the most durable Veg tanned. Nick Horween said in a pod cast that they don't do much veg horse because they are after the shell aspect not to waste it
That makes sense. Their shell is so good that I can see why they prefer to focus on that
I like shark, camel, and stingray. I’ve done a whole shark boot but not the others.
Very fancy
What’s your take on Latigo (wicked and Craig for example)
Attractions use most the guidi leather I believe.
I know they use it, but I believe their standard horsehide is from japan. The more expensive models are guidi
I have an original German Aero horse hide jacket used in WW2. The hide is in great shape and I wear it often. What do you wear on a rainy day? 😊 I love that modern mid-century lamp!
Very cool. I usually wear a leather jacket. A chrome tanned one if I'm going to be in the rain for a long time
What an interesting intro
I just use it to sync things
Hey man your 5/6 inch orange carlo badalassi Boot have single or double midsole
Thanks
I believe it's single, just very thick
What was that second Badalassi boot you showed?
The darker pair is a pair of Grant Stone Garrison boots
See, I'm the opposite, I guess. I would rather have bison than horse because it's strong but supple, but cow is the easy default because even cheap cow leather is going to behave in mostly predictable ways in the Price Range. I'm not the total leather expert, so maybe I'll change my mind and invest in horse someday, but most people will find thick cow difficult enough to break in for the kinds of activities they REALLY do.
Overall horsehide boots still make a little more sense for the reasons you state than horsehide flight jackets, which used to be the norm but now are barely cost effective, but here, again, goat is actually the more common default now than cow. Sheep is usually marketed as more supple, but is not really durable enough, and Pig is just cheap.
I don't know why anybody would need more than one pair of engineer boots, either, but I'm curious if horse would make better or worse cowboy boots for the money to get the style I'd want if I was really going to invest in some higher quality ones eventually.
I think Chrome Exel leather is overrated overall, but it still makes sense as an intro leather for guys who aren't going to spend time conditioning their boots or all that other stuff. I sent back the Grant Stone CXL ones because they looked exactly like the Thursday ones I already had, but when I need to replace the Thurs boots it will likely be with the GS ones.
But I wonder if the kangaroo offers the same kind of ankle support as thick cow. If you're just walking around town, then it doesn't matter so much.
I have that same boot in the forest kudu for the color, but the time I wore them they already got scuff all on one toe and that almost tragedy for boot that otherwise supposed to be so low maintenance a bit. Sigh. I don't think the kanga came in any swell colors for my taste at the time.
Do you not use shoe trees?
Not on my boots. I like the rolls to develop. I do use them in dress shoes.
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Thank you!
Nice
Thanks!
Wouldve helped if you say the name of the boot , just in case people would be interesting in biying what you showing , so this was disappointing for me seeing this video , i liked 2 pairs that you have picked up but dont know the name of the boots , smh
Horse hide seems less ethical to me. I get that a lot of cow leather is a byproduct of the meat industry, but I dont see a lot of horse mean going around.
That’s because it doesn’t come from the U.S. Italy and Japan (Where 90% of horse is tanned) eat horse meat.
When the horse dies of natural causes or is put down, the hide is saved for leather. They use other parts of the horse for other things too.
@@righturnclydeChina eats the most horse meat. Both China and Japan eats just about everything…even live frogs 🐸 and bats 🦇
I am pretty sure horse meat is consumed in Canada also. We're just squeamish here in the United States.
Horsehide is a byproduct of the meat industry. That's why it's fairly rare. There aren't as many people that eat horse meat, but it is eaten in some places