Hey, some added notes. I cant presume to know the creators intentions when making that video, but it turned out to be so spiteful and inaccurate, the jokes didnt land, and the targeted hatred was pretty obvious. I made this video as a way to share my thoughts on it, to show everyone a reaction from the side of the average anime fan, and why we as a majority were disappointed by it. Anyway much love to everyone for watching, let me know your thoughts below, and if you liked the video, i would appreciate a like and Subscribing. Cheers!
Saw a video from dash attack who apparently has jellos discord leaks, and based on the video dude just seems to hate oda th-cam.com/video/4jWpM5LjWvg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kW7P7XbwCdh_-nPJ
You cultists always excuse Hackda’s BS writing for sneaking in that Pell survive 😂 how cheap! Only One Piece manga have more fake out deaths than any other popular shonen out there.
@@chrispolo25 I, literally didn't excuse pell's survival. I said, and I quote "pell surviving that explosion while already being injured, is bullshit". We all know it's bullshit, but if one narrative misdeed made someone a hack, then every writer in existence should be publicly shamed, same way you should be shamed for watching this video and still making the mistake in assuming I excused the death, when I verbally said, it was bullshit
Oh it's much worse: he and his two Yes Men friends basically skimmed The whole Manga in like a week or so basically hate watching the whole thing on discord and going as fast as possible and bitching every single time something didn't make sense because they skimmed over why it made sense.
the worst part is that no, he didn't skim the entire part, he's fully caught up with the manga AND still has the audacity to spit lies and misinformation out of spite at Oda and the creative differences between them.
@azizabdul8914 I'm convinced he did the exact same thing Cosmonaut did with JoJo and basically speed read the entire manga in a short amount of time and that's why he has so many bad takes despite being "caught up with it."
I like how even the community jokes and memes about Zoro being a racist, but we come to a real understanding that he is just respectful towards his oponents, not really against minorities or females. The community be like: Yeah Zoro is racist, not misogynystic. Professionals have standards lookin ahh situation lol
Well I definitely think there's some hidden misogyny in his character, but I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing, nor does it ever become the spotlight much so it's very hard to ever notice. But eventually I would love to see what Oda has planned for his character after this BECAUSE of something like that, it's a flaw to overcome with who he is and I just want to see that come to fruition. Btw what I'm talking about when I say he has "some misogyny", is that on the battlefield he seems to treat women differently at times, more specifically when Robin is struck by Eneru and when he is fighting the snow bird lady (forgot her name 😭) on Punk Hazard. In both situations he made it quite obvious that he views women as a 'different obstacle' to those he usually fights. Tashigi even calls him out that he doesn't take the fight seriously and even lets the snow lady get back up after he "defeated" her, which if it weren't for some ironic timing, she could've blown them all up while they were trying to escape. All in which to say, I definitely think Zoro has some things to work over in his personal arcs, but that's just makes me more excited to see where his character is going next! Sorry this was so long..
@@hetameme2697idk I'm Kinda confused. It sounds like you're saying zoro is mysogynistic because he tends to be more lenient and merciful with women? I can kind of see an argument there but I don't think its very reasonable. Furthermore, maybe the women he fought just didn't push him to a point where he had to take them serious. Luffy and zoro rarely will take a fight serious unless they're pushed to that point.
@hetameme2697 I don't think it's a sexiest thing with Zoro, I genuinely think it's what Mihawk said, "What fool hunts a rabbit with a cannon?" With Robin I think it's because he views Robin as a non-combatant. That's why he said to Enel that she's a woman he's referring to her as not a Warrior. With Monet he didn't see her as a serious threat just like at Egghead he didn't try against Rob Lucci
I wouldnt call him a mysogonist or even say he has mysogonistic traits. Personal theory but his aversion to really hurting women might just be due to his trauma with his childhood friend. Other than that he's the type to go all out on nearly all of his opponents@@hetameme2697
@@hetameme2697I think the Monet (snow bird girl) is more likely just disrespect than misogyny because of what she did to tashigi while not fighting fairly; two major factors that come to play as how he viewed her. We clearly see how ticked off he was by that too.
Jello has a history with givinf bad faith critiques in his "So This Is Basically" videos, One Piece seems to be the harshest he's ever been to anything though
@@kyuremthefrozen8539 what's crazy is that this is not the worst he's done, Discord leaks show him wanting the One Piece Mangaka to be harmed, and before the One Piece situation even happened, he vandalized a dub for an anime that he wasn't even hired for with reason being that the script was transphobic when that wasn't even the case
@@magi-yoshi41He also made said trans character’s line worse, so calling him an ally would snap any type of string or band with how much of a stretch it is
I got to be honest, the parts he made about Oda's private life were pretty wild. Like he took all the romantic rumors he's probably heard, mixed up a couple of details with Togashi's history with Assistants, and then implied that all this is the cause of any health issues he has, as well as his relationship with his family. That is... habitual online levels of crossing a line. That is super Twitter coded.
I love how Jello tries to make fun of Oda when answering fans, but the voice they give Oda in this animation makes him sound like a cool anime character. Especially compared to Jellos obnxious voice who sounds more like a comic relief grunt. Even when making of him they cant get rid of how cool Oda really is.
@@blankblank6214 Spite is a hell of a thing. Another stream pointed out that he also included the character he got a voice role for, ironically it's Stelly... He says he's proud to be the most hated character in one piece.
it started leaking when he did the rwby one putting spoilers in there for later volumes, and then he did his vote video and he went full mask off from there
I have a major rule for myself when critiquing a work of fiction; no matter how much I don't like it, or how mad it makes me, I will never turn it into a personal attack against the author. And yet, so many bad critics (and even good/lauded critics like Siskel and Ebert) can't help but use their criticism of a work of fiction to just degrade the real human being that made it. Seriously, it is not that hard to focus on the story itself, and not act like the writer/creator threw shit at your house. Jello is just the latest in a long line of assholes like that.
At the very least, many of these critics have at least grown from those experiences and called themselves out on it. Mr. Enter especially apologized for the time he sent his fans to attack Zeus Cervas. I feel like Jello might never come to that realization.
@@slashermaster28 given jello's thing of demonizing people with his vote video, it is pretty much true I don't think he will ever bounce back towards actual proper understanding
JelloApocalypse just keeps showing he is a garbage person. I mean the dude got fired for messing up the Lovely Complex anime translation and English blu-ray license. I think his recent videos against the anime community and popular IP's just shows how salty he is at being kicked out of the professional industry. Anyways JelloApocalypse needs to be put on a blacklist. I never want to see the dude work in the industry again after what he pulled with Lovely Complex at DiscoTek.
Fun fact, he hides that he ticks off Franky as irrelevant and unnecessary. During the Water 7 log of characters. Changes the picture for Franky too, and blurs the name. All so he can get away with it.
Say what you want about Sanji, he never, ever, crosses the line with women. The fountain of ketchup in Fishman Island was due to him not purposely putting his face in a certain spot, but the mermaid holding him like that to hide him. And there's usually someone there to check him pretty quickly.
Except you know when he was willing to marry a minor before said minor wiped both his memory and character development from Whole Cake so he can nearly get Nami and Robin captured by Hawkins because he has to abuse his raid suit's invisibility to peep on women bathing.
@@Drums_of_Liberation What you are experienceing is values dissonance with another country. Japan doesn't view that as sinister or weird. Their aoc is 16. Take up your complaints with the nation of Japan.
Another way you could tell that Jello doesn't know jack about One Piece is that he colored Robin as if she is a black woman but Oda has stated that she is meant to be based off of the Russia people. Yes the anime has her being tanned at her introduction but after the nationality reveal she lost that tan.
I can understand depicting Ussop and Vivi with darker skin, considering that Oda handpicked actors with darker skin in the live action version. The same can’t be said with Robin though since there’s absolutely nothing to indicate that Robin should have darker skin aside from Toei’s decision to make her tanned in the anime early on. It’s like Jello has this specific headcanon of how Robin should be and hates that Oda doesn’t depict her as such.
@@DANCERcowNever heard of race-coding? In many instances of a fantasy world with human characters, it is normal to find a character that would be considered POC even though they do not have the concept of nationality. For example, in the TV show The Owl House, the creator herself said that one of the characters is Korean even though she is not human but a witch from another dimension. In fantasy worlds the author can seek inspiration from real life, and this can involve nationalities and cultures. It's true that the character is not Russian, it's just that she was inspired by Russian women.
He actually didn’t forget Franky. Expect he’s on the list of “characters that can be cut from the story and nothing would change” I got no idea what he has against Franky but that just makes his video even more trash
Probably hates his design and personality. Franky is awesome and has his moments. He gets very picky like he hated every female character in ace attorney
This is the same guy who contributed to the misconception that Mable Pines is a horrible person. Not only did he also make a lot of people see Amethyst from Steven Universe as a horrible person too! He did the same thing with Princess Bubblegum but in her case I can even see how many see her as horrible (but no, she's not a cruel dictator or the "real" villain of Adventure Time🤦🏻♀️). He says Zorro is a sexist, but God forbid a female character has flaws or makes mistakes in their story because then THEY are the ones who are horrible in his eyes!🙄
Fellow One Piece man here, I watched it, and the video is honestly appalling. Not liking a man's work is fine, but what was the need to bring his real-life children into this? That's mad weird...
I used to think his "basically" series were just a big parody of bad faith criticism, finding out he actually believe on every single thing he says is... Wow 💀
To me you lose all credibility when not only are you taking stuff the author made without giving proper context. You have the gall to declare him a sexist and draw sexualized art of underaged real life girls in an anime style so tell me Jell-O why are you the good guy again?
i found out about him through his video on one piece, i was so shocked by how personal it sounded and i researched him and found out he wished harm on oda and i completely understood the context of his video. Hes a bitter narcissist that thinks hes so above everyone and thinks his work is better then everyone. He also has alot of hate for the anime industry coz he got kicked out of it for going rogue in making a dub by changing the source material so he could so called "fix it'
He even says how he's better than everyone during one of his live streams apparently. Hyping himself up as one of the greatest humans to ever live or some shi
Yes you probably are, Jell-O is a making stupid reference that even most One Piece fans don't know. Think in the Baratie arc, the pearl guy lit himself on fire and a character exclaims "he must be from the jungle" since he's sorta immune from his experience living there, setting himself on fire everytime to ward beasts off. Such a weird thing to make a running gag since that's not even a known meme in One Piece fanbase, and it wasn't even funny on its own the first time
U called out usopp being too dark but the same goes for vivi and robin. Robin had a tan but she wasn't that dark. And vivi I think is just him liking the live action version for some reason more than manga/anime vivi
I've seen some fanart depictions where some characters are depicted with darker skin tones. I'm pretty sure Jello is emulating one artist specifically, but I don't know the artist's name. I don't personally care one way or another, but I'm pretty sure it's where he got it from.
I want to point out at 19:30 that while yes that question did get sent into Jump and they did publish it, read Jello's remarks: "I wonder if encouraging terrible questions like this by printing them has had any negative impact on the quality of the manga volumes?" Considering the response Oda gave to that question was largely "Your question is bizarre, please don't ask again, and the answer is no." I have my doubts it did But it's awfully convenient to just leave that out isn't it Jello?
Jello really hates Franky I guess. Someone else I watched noticed during the segment where Jello crosses out "useless characters", he crosses off Franky. But he uses Water 7 Franky with his festival mask, and it is blurred.
@@zach4463 that's what I'm wondering, why make a video that bad? One that's intentionally hateful and misleading. If he was hoping Anyone would be swayed by his nonsense then he's badly mistaken
@@thespectresociety Jello is one of two things. 1)Someone who realised that rage bait gets views or 2) someone with an ego so big h feels that his view is the ONLY correct one. and well considering the trouble he got in when he tried to re-write the localization for an anime, up to and including trying to remove the manga author's self-insert character. AND the time he LEAKED a plot point for RWBY 6 months before it happened something he only knew because he interviewed for a VA role....im going with option 2
I played the One Piece Pirate Warriors games, mainly because I'm somewhat lazy at watching the anime or reading the manga. But when I reached Ace's death scene, I got misty eyed. It takes a bit to get me so emotional. I'm being as serious as I can be in text; screw this guy. Screw his video, his comments, his shade, everything. If he has a shred of dignity left, he'd delete the video. But no, I imagine he's going to turn off comments, try to get videos like these taken down because "Wah, my pwide hurts!".
Sooo many ways to approach this one but the fan service one is sticking out to me. Because that’s not something that happens in only One Piece but pretty much any anime or anime related content. And that’s what you’re getting into if you choose to experience it. I don’t care for it but I also know it’s just a different culture thing and it will not stop me from enjoying anime and especially One Piece.
Coreect me if im wrong in my interpretation but the Only example I can think of when a former slave becoming an oppressor in one piece is tesoro from film gold, Jello never once mentioned the movies though
Arlong would be good example for this. But Oda tackled that theme really well by showing different perspectives with Jimbe, fisher tiger, arlong, hordy, hatchan. Jello's whole video is a disgrace
The closest second example to Jello’s take is Macro and his crew. They were never slaves, but they are part of an often enslaved minority in One Piece’s world. They are also the only Fishmen in the whole show that actively target other minorities to sell into slavery; yet Jello, in his infinite wisdom, looked at this outlier among the Fishmen and said all of them are like that.
what insults me the most in his critique (which I only learned about here) is "I just want more interactions within the crew and none with side characters" as if you could keep a 1000+ episode show alive on the same characters interacting with the same people all the time. If you have a long running saga like this YOU NEEED LOTS OF SIDE CHARACTERS to bring in fresh dynamics or meaningful interactions that aren't just repeated over and over. It's the same reason I love Legend of Heroes so much, it's more than just the cast of heroes they present you but they take such lengths to flesh out the small people, the everyday average joe into being fully fleshed meaningful characters that your cast can go interact with and we often get to see different sides of our characters because of those interactions that other members of the cast might not definitely bring out in an authentic way.
yes how sanji acts around most women is a bit much, but that's because Zeff never properly taught him how to fully act around women like the reason, he does not hit a woman and takes it to such an extreme is because Zeff instilled that into him and also this manga has always had really exaggerated and wacky characters. He's just one of many characters that do really over the top things for a running gag
You know what's funny? Brendan Blaber aka Jelloapocalypse voices Adult Stelly in One Piece's English dub. I'm not saying that's bad, but it's going to be weird whenever Adult Stelly gets brought back to the story, and you remember he's voiced by someone who despises the story and the author. Before this whole drama, I didn't know Jello was this caustic. I only watched a couple of his videos in the past (but forgot about them) , and then I got hooked into his web series, Epithet Erased 5 years ago. I supported his kickstarter for the series second season, and I haven't finished it yet. I keep telling myself I need to finish the book. Learning about how he tried to fix the Lovely Complex dub and his utter disdain for One Piece is going to make it somewhat difficult for me to support him in the future if he keeps acting this way.
"Every slave eventually becomes a slaver" . . . This literally NEVER happened. Not a single time. I have NO IDEA where he got that. Also calling Jimbei a FISH. Thats like calling black ppl monkeys. What the Actual fuk?!?
yeah, what sort of criticism is that, Fisher tiger freed the slaves and died a FOAT (fishman of all time), Boa Hancock, last I checked, the kuja people serve Boa as citizens.
Is he referring to Koala? She wasn’t washing the boat because fisher Tiger ordered her to, it’s because her “owners” beat her until all she did was smile and clean. The fishmen went out of their way to save Koala and take her home, leading to Fisher Tiger’s death! Sure, Arlong is a bit warped, he sort of enslaved those villages he conquered, but the other fishmen weren’t as warped as he was. One does not stand for all.
Fourth Place hasn't been a goat since the timeskip. Just wait until the next pirate crew they fight ends up being mostly female. He'll be the most useless fighter at that point 😂
Same i had to give up on going to anime expo because paying like a thousand dollars to go on a vacation where i just wait in line all day broke me lol. Back back in the early 2000s it was nothing like that lol.
Ah yes jello. I watch some of his videos years ago but then he started to make more political takes including a video on how to vote and I lost interest. Then there was the stuff of him meddling in dubs or subs with really bad stuff and that was the last time I heard of him.
Some of the prominent characters I noticed he cut from the story Franky (even made sure to blur his name so it would be harder to notice) Kid Sengoku Rebecca Most of Whitebeard's crew Most of Doflamingo's crew King Riku Reiju (Sanji's sister who helped him escape from his imprisonment) Carrot Jack Kanjuro Most of (if not) all Oden's retainers Yamato
Jello definitely isn’t the first one to say or insinuate odas a pedo. Many people criticize what he does for characters like Shirahoshi and Rebecca. On top of the fact that Oda was associates or friends with another mangaka that had cp and Oda says that he likes to look back at the find memories. 1: just because the other was guilty of it, there was no proof of Oda knowing of it or even Oda saying that what he did was ok, which I’m pretty sure Oda was not ok with, but what’s wrong with looking back at good memories of who you though was a good person. And plus the age of consent in Japan is 16 and he doesn’t do much for Rebecca and Shirahoshi beyond having them show a bunch of skin. And carrot I have no memories of Oda ever sexualizing her at all, I guess you can count carrot being in a bath covered by and playing with bubbles in her hand, but that’s not that bad. Plus we already know what he thinks of carrots sulong form.
15:41 Correct me if I'm wrong but i assume he's referring to the character "Macro" who was in Fisher tiger's crew before he died. After Fisher tiger's death Marco created his own pirate group called the Marco Pirates. He appears in a cover story involving hatchan, camie and Pappag. And Marco tries to trade off camie as a slave. Only to be beaten up by hatchan
I really shouldn't have looked at the crossed out character list like you advised nearly a aneurism from certain characters. Got actually white rage for Reiju ARGHHH
But also like he kept Ichiji and Yonji but not Niji ?!? Like even I would keep them all of course Niji did more narratively with the cosette thing then Ichiji so wtf. But also I noticed that he removed a lot of a lot of asshole character but they all hold purposes like even like Flampe she socks but she serve to show how Katakuri is treated in the dysfunctional Charlotte family. Also he got rid of Tyranosaurus of fucking dare he 😤 that small white pouch mouse deserve the world screw him
One piece hater bingo…. Heck he done full blown blackout bingo(where you have to cover every square). How do you misinterpret a story that badly? Why do you complain about attractive women, when comically ugly men and women are also present in the story? Why do you complain that a support character doesn’t fight any main villains(which isn’t even true as Robin has had to battles against high ranking members of the enemy factions)? This isn’t even someone skimming the wiki, like how I first got into one piece(couldn’t afford the manga at the time), this is someone deliberately ignoring context and mischaracterizing every single facet of this series
What a shame. I actually liked "So this is basically JoJo" Tho, even there some jokes made me cringe. Like when he called Kakyoin a cardboard character. But scenes with his versions of "Part 9" were gold. Especially the Smash Mouth.
Another thing to note about special paramecia is that the mochi mochi no mi doesn't make katakuri intangible, katakuri mimics that property using future sight Hes done for the moment he has to face someone way too fast for him, like lets say Sanji or King with flames off fight him, they can harm him without using haki, they can't do the same for like ace or akainu It works just like everyy other paramecia, it gives him the ability to turn his body into the material, but its not a always on, he has to use that power its called special paramecia because it can create mochi, not cuz its like a logia And another thing is that logia grants complete control over element, even from a distance, like ace straight up controlling fire multiple times in the show Katakuri can't do that, he can't control some random mochi, he can only turn his body into mochi and use his body to fight
His Video did exactly what he wanted. It was an huge success. Upstirring the Fanbase, getting clicks and views and even get other youtuber like you to react on this. THAT is the only Reason why he did that. He might get some negative press, but he also puts his golden TH-cam sign in his shelf because of this.
15:46 this guy probably just saw that some fish men were slaves then saw Arlong had Nami as a slave (not really) and said the entire race must be doing slavery
Bro Nami absolutely was a slave. Her Arlong tattoo is pretty much a slave brand. Plus there was the fact that she was literally chained to her desk for years before she started to take off as a thief. She might have been allowed to leave Arlong Park but she'd never be able to escape Arlong until Luffy came into her life.
To try to explain the dumb jokes he tells in the video: He says you can leave the Grand line whenever you want because Pekoms (EDIT SEE BELOW POST ) and co were chased into the North Blue and he says that's completely impossible because of the calm belt but says it's because Oda is terrible at writing... Willl post more in replies as a watch more of the video.
People told him about the Black Maria fight and he basically just moved the goal post saying that it was a terrible fight because it was "too sexualized".
11:15 He basically considers every scene where a female character can't beat somebody and has to be saved by a man as sexism too... As in he thinks characters like Rebecca, Tashigi, and Carrot needed to solo Diamante, Monet, and Perospero do not be sexist.
The gay Nami thing: Basically during the reaction discord stream they did. They kept saying Nami was gay absolutely every single time she was in a 5-ft radius near a female character while being nice to them or sisterly and cherry-picked every time she scoffed at a male character as her being gay and Oda just not wanting to write her because he's a homophobe...
12:26 Basically because he cherry picks every single time Zoro saves a girl character from the bad guy about to attack her. With the start being when Enel was about to kill Robin and Zoro shouts while protecting her "She's a woman!" While oddly misinterpreting Zoro as being sexist while Enel was the one being sexist calling her an innocent lamb allowed to join his death gauntlet. He misinterpreted that as Enel acknowledging her as a warrior... Again, because he kept speedrunning binging the chapters and then complaining that it was the story's fault for not captivating him.
13:06 He purposely leaves out Franky because he absolutely hates him and says he's completely useless and can be written out of the show. The joke he sets up being in the description of the video it says "Did you notice how me not putting Frankie in the video didn't affect it at all just like the plot of this stupid story? Exactly"
1:40 Yeah I agree I wouldn't say magic Legos, I'd say Giant Legos cause that honestly makes more sense. It's also lore accurate because in the current arc in Elbaf, we see there are in fact Giant Legos for Giants.
Did you notice that he crossed out Frankie, but also blurred his name. So either he really hates Frankie, or he didn’t watch the show and therefore didn’t realize that that was Frankie in a mask, was too lazy to go back and remove that strike, and settled for just blurring out the name, hoping no one would notice.
This video was a great example of why you should do some research before criticizing something. There are some genuine criticism here that is worth talking about, but 90% of it is just straight up false information and lies, and then 9% is clearly poorly interpreted, and pure biased subjective takes, it completely drowns out the things that could warrant actual criticism. Not to mention, criticism should never be hateful like this. It's videos like this that shuns criticism from so many animes. Criticism is a good thing that should be more widely accepted, but hateful trash like this makes it so hard for that to happen.
I see... So this is the Spectre Society! You missed the Black Vivi and Black Robin at the start. I missed the Magic Legos. REALLY! Merchant, Transport, Marines, & So many things. Was it Z? Because Neo-Marines. CALM BELT! Giant Snakes. Sea Prism Stone. Overlap/Variation. Fire. Pica couldnt' be Dressrosa. Yeah. I mean the Kilo Kilo no mi has a lighter ceiling it seems while both might be able to float it's possible if they awakened or were mastered more even a Kilo user could find things they could do that a Ton user couldn't. Partly the fun of the series. How these powers that seem quite useless become so strong. I mean who thought Mochi and thought it would ever be a good power? Or how the protag as Rubber (And a bit more later on). But even how they used stretching and such was impressive for all the techniques. Neither a Paramecia or a Logia. Ontop of the fact that they use the worst character to represent Zoan's an Awakened Jailer Beast which they didn't exactly show an Awakened Paramecia user of of yet. Not an Awakened Logia user as of yet. Katakuri is Awakened but they didn't show how that worked. But they show an Awakened Jailer Beast and not a Zoan user who we maybe IDK. Have all 3 or 4 forms? Base, Transformed, Hybrid, & Awakened. That's just how fights work. Even DBZ can be simplified to that. Black POST TIMESKIP ROBIN AGAIN! IS NOT THE STRONGEST! This might be predicated off the concept that she has the Back or Neck Breaking techniques with her arms but... This is heavily balanced out by the fact that hitting those arms bring damage back to her even in her Black Maria fight her sort of Giant Avatar also sends the Damage back to her. It's similar to like how Ino will take the damage of who she Mind Tranfers into and if she dies in the Mind Transfer she doesn't go back as she just dies whether that's becuase she felt the pain of death or something IDK but that's just how it seems to work. Even if that wasn't an issue it doesn't change the fact the hands don't have Haki and Logia and other things could counter them and the fact Robin is still a target and likely would have to know where her opponent is. Even a Hypothetical no weakness of her own arms hurting her real body Robin with All 3 Haki's Mastered likely could get really high but still have possible weaknesses from normal fighters, snipers, & Such who could use Water and terrain against her along with anyone I think with strong Conquerers who could probably prevent the hands from being on them or someone like Sanji and Vergo who could be like Cybernetic + Regeneration harder to back break along with Haki and techniques and they would regen anyways with no way to put them down it would just be like a massive waste of stamina and a loss... Yep. Holy you did an amazing explanation of the Black Maria fight. What Oda does pretty well is make characters on the crew be able to fight and give them movesets. It kinda reminds me of those games that had characters that never truly fought or showed much being given like custom movesets for the game and how people see that as how they would fight. The characters have abilities and can fight but that doesn't mean they are meant to be a mainline fighter. If anything One Piece would be the least Sexist out of the Big 3. Yeah One Piece just did a LOT OF THINGS. In it's world. I could continue to watch Restless Gambler talk about the day Sanji Raided the Sea Train and that's cool as shit. But it doesn't change the fact that while that is cool it's not defining One Piece as a whole. Oda is someone drawing and amazing story and cooking up more and more. I've never been more hyped for what's to come rather than what came before and I think that alone shows how impressive they are. This is sort of like saying if Jojo's Slice of Life or any other possible Genre's it adds are better than the Stand Battles or the Part 1 Story when all of it is just how Jojo's moved forward as a Manga. Refusing to waste more time. Holy! One Piece. It depends on the Media what the age ratings are compared to who can watch it and what parts but from a small search maybe some of the earlier stuff could be like 11 while some of the later stuff is like 14+ The Live Action and the Anime are different in some cases along with like their censored Versions evne further that never lasted... The Fire and the Jungle. 4 Kids Useless Censored Dart from what I think. Could have easily called him the Minority Hunter! The Blackwashing. Certainly looks like a Personal fanfiction. Nah I'm here to defend the goat Sanji. What sort of things are they trying to say about my Boy? They don't do anything clear and saying the good version from the Live Action is fucking wild! What's that like Egghead statement thing? How like They could kill Lilith from an instant. Actually reading it back I'm pretty sure that she crossed her arms to be ready for that possiblity before we even see the pannel with her arms fully crossed however I don't know how the anime interprets it. He really hates Franky and tries to hide them up. Bro hating on them. Another thing is I don't really expect Jello to not care about Spoilers so I don't know if they couldn't animate them or why they didn't even show Silhouettes of the Elders form making me think they just don't know about that. (Also better zoans to use an example.) This never happened I think. Icebergs... The Library of Ohara! Black Vivi again. Yeah it would take hours to go over how much Raw BS! More dumb shade! That's Robin BTW! this Bias and weird shit. Yeah personal attacks here are some BS. Shade towards the Anime. I'm convinced Pell Scales Stupidly High or he's already Awakened. Maybe he had Haki or something else as well or maybe we'll learn the answers in the future. It had a Note on it. (Correcting the Uta Uta No Mi). Don't go there! Trash! Damn the hypocrisy! A video made by someone who looked in likely barely not to constructively criticize but to attack and I wonder for what reason. Is it just because they hate the story overall but like characters and effectively wish they could have their own fanfiction.
@@ZelZ-.-z the Spectre Society welcomes you. A bunch of people keep pointing out the black washing and to be honest, I just left it be because there was so many other incredibly bad takes he made, the change of colour was the least of my worries at that point. But yes Robin is supposed to be clearly white, Russian I think, and vivi is from Egypt (if I remember correctly) so she should not be that dark either
there is an imgur image list(made for their patreon?) in which Jello and co react to the manga and it gives their (bad) reasons for what was depicted in this animation (which sadly means that they did read the manga but that their interpretation of the manga was quite twisted) Like the thing with Zoro in this animation was due to him protecting a few characters instead of those characters saving themselves, and telling Enel that Robin was a women after Enel had thrown a lightning bolt though Robin's head (which is also one of the reasons Jello does not like Rebecca due to her relying on Soldier(Kyros) and Luffy) 17:36 while I also am not fully sure why they think that Oda does not have/like his editors, But it seems that at least one part of their bad reasoning for that comes from SBS Volume 52 Question that starts with "Oda-sensei, you have assistants like other artists, right?..." (which in the Imgur had a note attached to it saying that "this is the reason Jello does not feel for Oda")
You skipped over the characters he counted as nonessential, so if nobody mentioned it, he crossed out Franky as a picture wearing his Mask from Water 7 and blurred out the name to make it even hard to notice what he did. That and him not mentioning during the Straw Hat Crew section makes it obvious
In all fairness, at this point, no one that just wants to make a video about one piece will read all of it just for that With how time-consuming it'd be and how little (procentige wise) you'd still remember or how much you would've written down
If you're not willing to put in the time and effort to thoroughly research something that you're going to make a video about then you just shouldn't make a video about it at all
Overall, it just feels like Jello made the video soley to alienate people from checking/still checking One Piece Sure, you're free to dislike and have an opinion, but it's a completely different story when you dont want anyone to consume it
I’m curious about that list of characters he thinks can be axed, but 1) I’m not going to give him a view 2) I’m sure it’s almost entirely arbitrary with no logic aside from “what will annoy people the most” I followed Jello way back when he was funny, but can’t stand him ever since the Vote video.
I may hate the live action but the anime and manga are the best things I’ve watched and read since the films and novels of the lord of the rings. Ain’t no TH-camr ever going to convince me to go against something that’s been a part of my life so long! 😂
@@Notabear6810 I think it's likely oda didn't realise some devil fruits enter 2 categories, and by the time he did, he just gave it a new category that exists between them The mochi fruit fits the bill. But what's stranger? Luffy. Fits all 3 categories now,
I never want to see another One piece video from Jello, bro's been insulting the fans, Creator, production team, etc, at this point I'm not sure if Jello is trying to rage bait or not, I'm glad when I saw his video in my suggestions I didn't click on it, I had a feeling I wouldn't like it, but his video is MUCH worse than I thought
10:10 And that was post-timeskip, where Luffy had gained partial immunity to poison. About Robin, once she took down a main villain of an important arc. And before you say "that guy was a weakling", it was still a badass moment for Robin since her enemy still had a lot of cruelty and authority. Plus, she has a relatively high percentage of stomps in her favor.
I think the claim about the freed slaves becoming slavers themselves was about Arlong enslaving Nami's village, but even THAT'S wrong, because I don't think Arlong was ever a slave himself.
PLEASE stop calling everything people like a "community". Why can't you just call them "One Piece fans"? I mean, calling One Piece fans a "community" you make them sound like cultists or something.
There is actually a single scene of Nami finding a girl attractive, it's more than any scene of her finding a guy attractive (which is so far 0), so here is a point for her being a lesbian is more likely than not Vivi however has no known scenes of attraction to women, so there is that.
@ThisisKyle Ok? Can you point a canon manga scene of Nami being attracted to a male character for me then? Because I can point one of her being attracted to a female character and 1 is still way more than 0
epithet erased it was forgotten for a reason jello was like what if i made my hero but bad and of course he locks it in the basement jello was born a coward
I feel really let down by this video (Jello's video, not yours) I usually love his content, but this one was just.... different. I also barely know one piece, so I didn't really understand most of the issues. But what he said about the author and the characters.... something didn't feel right. And now I know why. (His "so this is basically series" were my favorites and this is his first one in I think years now jello why 😭) I still love the guy and his content, but....idk what to do now.
I get JelloApocalypse personal frustrations, and I feel like a lot of the personal insults flung his way are uncalled for. He's roasting the show, he roast a lot of the shows, it's just usually he doesn't get as many facts wrong about the series nor does he typically attack creators. That different from just having negative opinions on a property... but I still mostly don't care. I'm sure the video got attention like he wanted, even though it probably wasn't the kind of attention he did want. (Still though, "This is basically One Piece" had a lot of potential in being really funny... so it's disappointing missed opportunity) I still like Jello's original comic, at least of what I've seen
I have to question Robin not being the strongest female character. I'm mean sure, not by Luffy, Zoro or Sanji's type of strong. But her powers and mind make her a terrifying force. At least if Oda was creative with her powers. Her along with several other characters are majorly underutilized. As brilliant of a writer as Oda is, his creativity for some reason doesn't go to exploring what Devil Fruits can do most of the time. And I'm not throwing shade at Oda. I just can't understand why some powers get expanded upon and others don't. Like before Gear 5 was introduced I had the idea of Luffy condensing his Rubber body instead of Stretching it. Making it tougher while still keeping it shock absorbing properties.
@@akirandrake414 Robins powers did get expanded upon greatly. It went from sprouting her own limbs from anywhere, to making gigantic versions of her own limbs, to using her limbs to make things like nets and wings, to straight up cloning herself, to making a giant demonic avatar of herself, she wasn't under utilised nor were her powers not developed, you just need to pay attention to her development to see it As for luffy condensing himself, that's not how rubber functions. It expands. Not shrink, if he wanted strength he can always add haki to himself, and he does. Becoming smaller is a disadvantage in Onepiece. Finally, the strongest woman is big mom A villain who was done perfectly, and stands to this day as the most resilient character, that includes men too btw, only kaido can ever hope to match her durability. Representation is there, characters are well used and given proper development You just need to actually focus
I'm not even a super fan of One Piece and even I can see the BS in this video! Jello should stop making these videos before he ends up ruining the perception of these shows for newcomers.🤦🏻♀️
Oda appreciates his assistants and fans he was surprised the wiki keeps track of every move the strawhats used in their fights because he forgets sometimes. The reason he probably was the one person that saw carrot as cute and the other word but the moment he saw her age was all nope I'm not a pdfile at least he didn't go the route of the one most dangerous one piece fan. Hating rebecca because she counts on luffy and kyros seriously shes human she couldn't do much against donflamingo and if it wasn't for luffy she would've ended viola and be traumatized by it. He just seems like a jealous of shows succeeding or when he gets rejected or wronged in a job he takes his anger out on the shows or series as being funny. Like leaked discords say he wants certain creators to game end themselves. Hes done this to rwby leaked a spoiler because he didn't make it to the final call. Overall this guy needs a new hobby or get out of the industry even the industry he works are blacklisting him because he is bad for business
Hey, some added notes.
I cant presume to know the creators intentions when making that video, but it turned out to be so spiteful and inaccurate, the jokes didnt land, and the targeted hatred was pretty obvious.
I made this video as a way to share my thoughts on it, to show everyone a reaction from the side of the average anime fan, and why we as a majority were disappointed by it.
Anyway much love to everyone for watching, let me know your thoughts below, and if you liked the video, i would appreciate a like and Subscribing. Cheers!
Saw a video from dash attack who apparently has jellos discord leaks, and based on the video dude just seems to hate oda
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I had no idea things were this damn bad, but this is outrageous work.
You cultists always excuse Hackda’s BS writing for sneaking in that Pell survive 😂 how cheap! Only One Piece manga have more fake out deaths than any other popular shonen out there.
@@chrispolo25 I, literally didn't excuse pell's survival. I said, and I quote "pell surviving that explosion while already being injured, is bullshit". We all know it's bullshit, but if one narrative misdeed made someone a hack, then every writer in existence should be publicly shamed, same way you should be shamed for watching this video and still making the mistake in assuming I excused the death, when I verbally said, it was bullshit
@ “he’s a zoan so I guess it mAk3s sEnSe” lmao yeah buddy… and there’s a tons of other flaws why One Piece is MID at best.
This guy got blacklisted from the anime industry, due to him ruining the english dub for Love Complex with his "helpful" edits, btw
@@TheKenchanx with all due respect, he can keep his "helpful attitude" away from anime indefinitely
@@thespectresociety that's definitely part of the reason why he went after what he perceives to be the holy cow of shounen anime and manga.
@@Schinak if he wanted to poke a beehive, he should've started small, he set off an entire colony
@@thespectresociety People with egos like his think they are safe from consequences
@@Schinak seems so. But this time consequences followed, and quickly. It's only been a week and no one is defending him
The entire vid just feels like he skimmed the Wiki and then went on Reddit to find "Worst One Piece takes" and made a video based on that.
Oh it's much worse: he and his two Yes Men friends basically skimmed The whole Manga in like a week or so basically hate watching the whole thing on discord and going as fast as possible and bitching every single time something didn't make sense because they skimmed over why it made sense.
I went back to some of his old “so this is basically” videos and they’re literally just all the dumbest and most sexist fandom takes spliced together
the worst part is that no, he didn't skim the entire part, he's fully caught up with the manga AND still has the audacity to spit lies and misinformation out of spite at Oda and the creative differences between them.
That is JelloApocalypse's takes works, my friend.
@azizabdul8914 I'm convinced he did the exact same thing Cosmonaut did with JoJo and basically speed read the entire manga in a short amount of time and that's why he has so many bad takes despite being "caught up with it."
Never in my life i thought I would hate someone more than a celestial dragon but jello seems to be the case
I like how even the community jokes and memes about Zoro being a racist, but we come to a real understanding that he is just respectful towards his oponents, not really against minorities or females.
The community be like:
Yeah Zoro is racist, not misogynystic.
Professionals have standards lookin ahh situation lol
Well I definitely think there's some hidden misogyny in his character, but I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing, nor does it ever become the spotlight much so it's very hard to ever notice. But eventually I would love to see what Oda has planned for his character after this BECAUSE of something like that, it's a flaw to overcome with who he is and I just want to see that come to fruition.
Btw what I'm talking about when I say he has "some misogyny", is that on the battlefield he seems to treat women differently at times, more specifically when Robin is struck by Eneru and when he is fighting the snow bird lady (forgot her name 😭) on Punk Hazard. In both situations he made it quite obvious that he views women as a 'different obstacle' to those he usually fights. Tashigi even calls him out that he doesn't take the fight seriously and even lets the snow lady get back up after he "defeated" her, which if it weren't for some ironic timing, she could've blown them all up while they were trying to escape.
All in which to say, I definitely think Zoro has some things to work over in his personal arcs, but that's just makes me more excited to see where his character is going next! Sorry this was so long..
@@hetameme2697idk I'm Kinda confused. It sounds like you're saying zoro is mysogynistic because he tends to be more lenient and merciful with women? I can kind of see an argument there but I don't think its very reasonable. Furthermore, maybe the women he fought just didn't push him to a point where he had to take them serious. Luffy and zoro rarely will take a fight serious unless they're pushed to that point.
@hetameme2697 I don't think it's a sexiest thing with Zoro, I genuinely think it's what Mihawk said, "What fool hunts a rabbit with a cannon?" With Robin I think it's because he views Robin as a non-combatant. That's why he said to Enel that she's a woman he's referring to her as not a Warrior. With Monet he didn't see her as a serious threat just like at Egghead he didn't try against Rob Lucci
I wouldnt call him a mysogonist or even say he has mysogonistic traits. Personal theory but his aversion to really hurting women might just be due to his trauma with his childhood friend. Other than that he's the type to go all out on nearly all of his opponents@@hetameme2697
@@hetameme2697I think the Monet (snow bird girl) is more likely just disrespect than misogyny because of what she did to tashigi while not fighting fairly; two major factors that come to play as how he viewed her. We clearly see how ticked off he was by that too.
Jello has a history with givinf bad faith critiques in his "So This Is Basically" videos, One Piece seems to be the harshest he's ever been to anything though
harshest one yet
@@kyuremthefrozen8539 what's crazy is that this is not the worst he's done, Discord leaks show him wanting the One Piece Mangaka to be harmed, and before the One Piece situation even happened, he vandalized a dub for an anime that he wasn't even hired for with reason being that the script was transphobic when that wasn't even the case
Even harsher than his RWBY one. That’s a show with major flaws and I am a RWBY fan. Even so his video on RWBY was too harsh.
@@spencersholden At least the RWBY critiques were true, this time he's just attacking the show for no reason. Makes no sense.
@@magi-yoshi41He also made said trans character’s line worse, so calling him an ally would snap any type of string or band with how much of a stretch it is
I got to be honest, the parts he made about Oda's private life were pretty wild. Like he took all the romantic rumors he's probably heard, mixed up a couple of details with Togashi's history with Assistants, and then implied that all this is the cause of any health issues he has, as well as his relationship with his family. That is... habitual online levels of crossing a line. That is super Twitter coded.
He also tried calling Oda a PDFile as well, basically trying to call Oda every worse thing he can think of hopeing anything would stick
@@lil_mis_smileshe didn’t just call him a pdf. He called him in relation to his own children. Bro needs the chipper idc that’s just way over the line
gotta get with the times, its super bluesky coded now
guys, google 'Jelloapocalypse Pepperpotsunshine' and you guys will see how creepy this guy is
I love how Jello tries to make fun of Oda when answering fans, but the voice they give Oda in this animation makes him sound like a cool anime character. Especially compared to Jellos obnxious voice who sounds more like a comic relief grunt.
Even when making of him they cant get rid of how cool Oda really is.
It's crazy that jello said franky can be axed but not fake franky
@@blankblank6214 Spite is a hell of a thing. Another stream pointed out that he also included the character he got a voice role for, ironically it's Stelly... He says he's proud to be the most hated character in one piece.
The jinbei fish thing feels like the one pieces world equivalence of a racist jim crow comic imagery
That's the whole point of fishman island arc
He also said he wants Oda dead in his discord
Oda didn't even do anything to him
😂😮 show me a source since it's cannot be what spiteful? 😂
@@heropath34.vaselisc.35what?
@@Coolman154-h1e jello cannot be what petty lil sh+i
@@heropath34.vaselisc.35there was a screenshot apparently
The first 5 seconds were funny, but then when go on tangents on oda...i can only see spitefully and hate ....what happen to jello?
He simply revealed his true colors: that he's a spiteful egotist who thinks he's smarter than everyone else
it started leaking when he did the rwby one putting spoilers in there for later volumes, and then he did his vote video and he went full mask off from there
I have a major rule for myself when critiquing a work of fiction; no matter how much I don't like it, or how mad it makes me, I will never turn it into a personal attack against the author.
And yet, so many bad critics (and even good/lauded critics like Siskel and Ebert) can't help but use their criticism of a work of fiction to just degrade the real human being that made it. Seriously, it is not that hard to focus on the story itself, and not act like the writer/creator threw shit at your house.
Jello is just the latest in a long line of assholes like that.
At the very least, many of these critics have at least grown from those experiences and called themselves out on it. Mr. Enter especially apologized for the time he sent his fans to attack Zeus Cervas. I feel like Jello might never come to that realization.
@@slashermaster28 given jello's thing of demonizing people with his vote video, it is pretty much true I don't think he will ever bounce back towards actual proper understanding
JelloApocalypse just keeps showing he is a garbage person. I mean the dude got fired for messing up the Lovely Complex anime translation and English blu-ray license. I think his recent videos against the anime community and popular IP's just shows how salty he is at being kicked out of the professional industry. Anyways JelloApocalypse needs to be put on a blacklist. I never want to see the dude work in the industry again after what he pulled with Lovely Complex at DiscoTek.
Pretty sure that did actually get him blacklisted completely from the industry.
Fun fact, he hides that he ticks off Franky as irrelevant and unnecessary. During the Water 7 log of characters. Changes the picture for Franky too, and blurs the name. All so he can get away with it.
Say what you want about Sanji, he never, ever, crosses the line with women.
The fountain of ketchup in Fishman Island was due to him not purposely putting his face in a certain spot, but the mermaid holding him like that to hide him.
And there's usually someone there to check him pretty quickly.
Except you know when he was willing to marry a minor before said minor wiped both his memory and character development from Whole Cake so he can nearly get Nami and Robin captured by Hawkins because he has to abuse his raid suit's invisibility to peep on women bathing.
@@Drums_of_Liberation until you remember he was forced to mary the minor if you want to ignore that im not gonna let you
@@Drums_of_LiberationI know you personally don't like it but in their culture you can consent to marriage at 16.
Sure I don't recall a moment of him physically harassing anyone but bro has tried multiple times to spy on nude women that's still messed up lmao
@@Drums_of_Liberation What you are experienceing is values dissonance with another country. Japan doesn't view that as sinister or weird. Their aoc is 16. Take up your complaints with the nation of Japan.
Another way you could tell that Jello doesn't know jack about One Piece is that he colored Robin as if she is a black woman but Oda has stated that she is meant to be based off of the Russia people. Yes the anime has her being tanned at her introduction but after the nationality reveal she lost that tan.
Not based off of. It was just a frivolous answer to a fun SBS question. It's not a serious statement of what he based the characters on.
I can understand depicting Ussop and Vivi with darker skin, considering that Oda handpicked actors with darker skin in the live action version. The same can’t be said with Robin though since there’s absolutely nothing to indicate that Robin should have darker skin aside from Toei’s decision to make her tanned in the anime early on. It’s like Jello has this specific headcanon of how Robin should be and hates that Oda doesn’t depict her as such.
Nope that is false and not canon to the actual story! She is not Russian, that is a non canon answer Oda used as a fun what if
@@DANCERcow ah yes and he definitely didn't literally pick a Russian actress to play her in live action totally not a thing he did
@@DANCERcowNever heard of race-coding? In many instances of a fantasy world with human characters, it is normal to find a character that would be considered POC even though they do not have the concept of nationality. For example, in the TV show The Owl House, the creator herself said that one of the characters is Korean even though she is not human but a witch from another dimension. In fantasy worlds the author can seek inspiration from real life, and this can involve nationalities and cultures. It's true that the character is not Russian, it's just that she was inspired by Russian women.
He actually didn’t forget Franky. Expect he’s on the list of “characters that can be cut from the story and nothing would change” I got no idea what he has against Franky but that just makes his video even more trash
The disrespect to my goat Franky is crazy man 😭
@@Sunny_Jacenobody slanders the man franky
On our watch
@@isauldron4337 REAL BRO 😤😤😤
Franky is fun as hell, I don’t understand what his problem is with him
Probably hates his design and personality. Franky is awesome and has his moments. He gets very picky like he hated every female character in ace attorney
This is the same guy who contributed to the misconception that Mable Pines is a horrible person. Not only did he also make a lot of people see Amethyst from Steven Universe as a horrible person too! He did the same thing with Princess Bubblegum but in her case I can even see how many see her as horrible (but no, she's not a cruel dictator or the "real" villain of Adventure Time🤦🏻♀️). He says Zorro is a sexist, but God forbid a female character has flaws or makes mistakes in their story because then THEY are the ones who are horrible in his eyes!🙄
He desperately wants to join a community he hates, don't let him in.
Fellow One Piece man here, I watched it, and the video is honestly appalling. Not liking a man's work is fine, but what was the need to bring his real-life children into this? That's mad weird...
I used to think his "basically" series were just a big parody of bad faith criticism, finding out he actually believe on every single thing he says is... Wow 💀
To me you lose all credibility when not only are you taking stuff the author made without giving proper context. You have the gall to declare him a sexist and draw sexualized art of underaged real life girls in an anime style so tell me Jell-O why are you the good guy again?
i found out about him through his video on one piece, i was so shocked by how personal it sounded and i researched him and found out he wished harm on oda and i completely understood the context of his video. Hes a bitter narcissist that thinks hes so above everyone and thinks his work is better then everyone. He also has alot of hate for the anime industry coz he got kicked out of it for going rogue in making a dub by changing the source material so he could so called "fix it'
He even says how he's better than everyone during one of his live streams apparently. Hyping himself up as one of the greatest humans to ever live or some shi
Whats with the jungle thing? Am i too smart to understand idiot anymore?
Yes you probably are, Jell-O is a making stupid reference that even most One Piece fans don't know. Think in the Baratie arc, the pearl guy lit himself on fire and a character exclaims "he must be from the jungle" since he's sorta immune from his experience living there, setting himself on fire everytime to ward beasts off. Such a weird thing to make a running gag since that's not even a known meme in One Piece fanbase, and it wasn't even funny on its own the first time
It's a minor joke from the Baratie arc
I think it is a reference to the 4kidz dub of One Piece
@@Silver-6907it's a reference to how Pearl is able to light himself on fire in the Baratie arc.
@ThisisKyle I know that, but since it wasn't something that is said in the current dub of One Piece, I figured that it was from the 4kidz dub
U called out usopp being too dark but the same goes for vivi and robin. Robin had a tan but she wasn't that dark. And vivi I think is just him liking the live action version for some reason more than manga/anime vivi
I've seen some fanart depictions where some characters are depicted with darker skin tones. I'm pretty sure Jello is emulating one artist specifically, but I don't know the artist's name. I don't personally care one way or another, but I'm pretty sure it's where he got it from.
I want to point out at 19:30 that while yes that question did get sent into Jump and they did publish it, read Jello's remarks:
"I wonder if encouraging terrible questions like this by printing them has had any negative impact on the quality of the manga volumes?"
Considering the response Oda gave to that question was largely "Your question is bizarre, please don't ask again, and the answer is no." I have my doubts it did
But it's awfully convenient to just leave that out isn't it Jello?
Jello really hates Franky I guess. Someone else I watched noticed during the segment where Jello crosses out "useless characters", he crosses off Franky. But he uses Water 7 Franky with his festival mask, and it is blurred.
I knew before I saw it that he hated onepiece even surprised he made it in the first place.
@@zach4463 that's what I'm wondering, why make a video that bad? One that's intentionally hateful and misleading.
If he was hoping Anyone would be swayed by his nonsense then he's badly mistaken
@@thespectresociety Jello is one of two things.
1)Someone who realised that rage bait gets views
or 2) someone with an ego so big h feels that his view is the ONLY correct one.
and well considering the trouble he got in when he tried to re-write the localization for an anime, up to and including trying to remove the manga author's self-insert character. AND the time he LEAKED a plot point for RWBY 6 months before it happened something he only knew because he interviewed for a VA role....im going with option 2
It reminds me of that one time Doktor Skipper made a video about "Why Godzilla can't work in America".
The fact that it even the one piece haters were against him says a lot and I mean A LOT
I played the One Piece Pirate Warriors games, mainly because I'm somewhat lazy at watching the anime or reading the manga.
But when I reached Ace's death scene, I got misty eyed. It takes a bit to get me so emotional. I'm being as serious as I can be in text; screw this guy. Screw his video, his comments, his shade, everything. If he has a shred of dignity left, he'd delete the video. But no, I imagine he's going to turn off comments, try to get videos like these taken down because "Wah, my pwide hurts!".
So you know One piece story through game?
He also didn't even use the well known joke for Ace's death.
Doughnut.
@@numberhunter62 goddammit akainu
Sooo many ways to approach this one but the fan service one is sticking out to me. Because that’s not something that happens in only One Piece but pretty much any anime or anime related content. And that’s what you’re getting into if you choose to experience it. I don’t care for it but I also know it’s just a different culture thing and it will not stop me from enjoying anime and especially One Piece.
The fanservice in one piece make me enjoy it more to be honest
Not in gintama
Thanks for acknowledging that anime mainly comes from a vastly different culture.
You said do not share hate towards him but istg this is not possible
@@jayko2853 I believe in you, don't
yeah youre an idiot
Coreect me if im wrong in my interpretation but the Only example I can think of when a former slave becoming an oppressor in one piece is tesoro from film gold, Jello never once mentioned the movies though
@@planetbirthday6859 and if he did we'd laugh, since they aren't canon
Tesoro is an example where an oppressed choose to be what was done against him and the aim was that Tesoro's was wrong
Arlong would be good example for this. But Oda tackled that theme really well by showing different perspectives with Jimbe, fisher tiger, arlong, hordy, hatchan. Jello's whole video is a disgrace
The closest second example to Jello’s take is Macro and his crew. They were never slaves, but they are part of an often enslaved minority in One Piece’s world. They are also the only Fishmen in the whole show that actively target other minorities to sell into slavery; yet Jello, in his infinite wisdom, looked at this outlier among the Fishmen and said all of them are like that.
The only example I could think of was Hody when he basically enslaved the human pirates to work for him
what insults me the most in his critique (which I only learned about here) is "I just want more interactions within the crew and none with side characters" as if you could keep a 1000+ episode show alive on the same characters interacting with the same people all the time. If you have a long running saga like this YOU NEEED LOTS OF SIDE CHARACTERS to bring in fresh dynamics or meaningful interactions that aren't just repeated over and over.
It's the same reason I love Legend of Heroes so much, it's more than just the cast of heroes they present you but they take such lengths to flesh out the small people, the everyday average joe into being fully fleshed meaningful characters that your cast can go interact with and we often get to see different sides of our characters because of those interactions that other members of the cast might not definitely bring out in an authentic way.
@@SirBanana1992 well said!
yes how sanji acts around most women is a bit much, but that's because Zeff never properly taught him how to fully act around women like the reason, he does not hit a woman and takes it to such an extreme is because Zeff instilled that into him and also this manga has always had really exaggerated and wacky characters. He's just one of many characters that do really over the top things for a running gag
You know what's funny? Brendan Blaber aka Jelloapocalypse voices Adult Stelly in One Piece's English dub. I'm not saying that's bad, but it's going to be weird whenever Adult Stelly gets brought back to the story, and you remember he's voiced by someone who despises the story and the author.
Before this whole drama, I didn't know Jello was this caustic. I only watched a couple of his videos in the past (but forgot about them) , and then I got hooked into his web series, Epithet Erased 5 years ago. I supported his kickstarter for the series second season, and I haven't finished it yet. I keep telling myself I need to finish the book.
Learning about how he tried to fix the Lovely Complex dub and his utter disdain for One Piece is going to make it somewhat difficult for me to support him in the future if he keeps acting this way.
"Every slave eventually becomes a slaver"
. . . This literally NEVER happened. Not a single time.
I have NO IDEA where he got that.
Also calling Jimbei a FISH.
Thats like calling black ppl monkeys. What the Actual fuk?!?
yeah, what sort of criticism is that, Fisher tiger freed the slaves and died a FOAT (fishman of all time), Boa Hancock, last I checked, the kuja people serve Boa as citizens.
@Pharis111 Boa is literally following Government orders (something she doesn't want to do)
Something she does for the sake of protecting her ppl
Is he referring to Koala? She wasn’t washing the boat because fisher Tiger ordered her to, it’s because her “owners” beat her until all she did was smile and clean. The fishmen went out of their way to save Koala and take her home, leading to Fisher Tiger’s death!
Sure, Arlong is a bit warped, he sort of enslaved those villages he conquered, but the other fishmen weren’t as warped as he was. One does not stand for all.
@@koheletcalaforexclan6508 Arlong wasn't a slave. Koala has never become a slaver
@@yugoxgc yeah she is in revolutionary army
Jelloapocalypse hates everything
Did he ever just read/watch the manga and anime or did he just skim the wiki?
Personaliy, I don't think he even went to the wiki.
@@JaxonHexexactly
I will not tolerate Disrespect for The GOAT Sanji...
Fourth Place hasn't been a goat since the timeskip. Just wait until the next pirate crew they fight ends up being mostly female. He'll be the most useless fighter at that point 😂
@@Drums_of_Liberation found a zorotaurd
@@Coolman154-h1ezorotard>pedo and simp
@@Drums_of_Liberation imagine he just finds a substitute to stop them (eg that one cook mf in the eines lobby train)
I wish anime stayed a niche.
Same i had to give up on going to anime expo because paying like a thousand dollars to go on a vacation where i just wait in line all day broke me lol. Back back in the early 2000s it was nothing like that lol.
Ah yes jello. I watch some of his videos years ago but then he started to make more political takes including a video on how to vote and I lost interest. Then there was the stuff of him meddling in dubs or subs with really bad stuff and that was the last time I heard of him.
18:07 did he just fucking say u can cut Tashigi out of the story WTF
And exactly has she done since her introduction other than be someone Zoro can troll at Punk Hazard?
@@Drums_of_Liberation pointed luffy to croc, that's one thing.
Some of the prominent characters I noticed he cut from the story
Franky (even made sure to blur his name so it would be harder to notice)
Kid
Sengoku
Rebecca
Most of Whitebeard's crew
Most of Doflamingo's crew
King Riku
Reiju (Sanji's sister who helped him escape from his imprisonment)
Carrot
Jack
Kanjuro
Most of (if not) all Oden's retainers
Yamato
Jello definitely isn’t the first one to say or insinuate odas a pedo. Many people criticize what he does for characters like Shirahoshi and Rebecca. On top of the fact that Oda was associates or friends with another mangaka that had cp and Oda says that he likes to look back at the find memories. 1: just because the other was guilty of it, there was no proof of Oda knowing of it or even Oda saying that what he did was ok, which I’m pretty sure Oda was not ok with, but what’s wrong with looking back at good memories of who you though was a good person. And plus the age of consent in Japan is 16 and he doesn’t do much for Rebecca and Shirahoshi beyond having them show a bunch of skin. And carrot I have no memories of Oda ever sexualizing her at all, I guess you can count carrot being in a bath covered by and playing with bubbles in her hand, but that’s not that bad. Plus we already know what he thinks of carrots sulong form.
Sanji is one of the best characters in fiction.
Too bad his "Gentlemen around women attitude" got replaced with "haha, nosebleed pervert trope"
@cippy992 not really. It only happened in Fishman and wano bath. Otherwise, he's great and whole cake island and queen filght being stand outs.
In fiction, not really, but in one piece itself, yes one of the best written character. He’s more than just his perv and simp gag.
@@GavinHintz i am talking about in personal favorite and he is the best in fiction
@@v-repmon2322why even bother mentioning whole cake when all his character development from that was wiped along with the memories that Pudding took.
15:41
Correct me if I'm wrong but i assume he's referring to the character "Macro" who was in Fisher tiger's crew before he died.
After Fisher tiger's death Marco created his own pirate group called the Marco Pirates.
He appears in a cover story involving hatchan, camie and Pappag. And Marco tries to trade off camie as a slave. Only to be beaten up by hatchan
I really shouldn't have looked at the crossed out character list like you advised nearly a aneurism from certain characters. Got actually white rage for Reiju ARGHHH
But also like he kept Ichiji and Yonji but not Niji ?!? Like even I would keep them all of course Niji did more narratively with the cosette thing then Ichiji so wtf. But also I noticed that he removed a lot of a lot of asshole character but they all hold purposes like even like Flampe she socks but she serve to show how Katakuri is treated in the dysfunctional Charlotte family.
Also he got rid of Tyranosaurus of fucking dare he 😤 that small white pouch mouse deserve the world screw him
Which makes me wonder if he wants to get rid of reiju how tf would sanji get out of his cage
@@Coolman154-h1e he probably wants him to stay in there
@Phishface yikes
One piece hater bingo…. Heck he done full blown blackout bingo(where you have to cover every square).
How do you misinterpret a story that badly? Why do you complain about attractive women, when comically ugly men and women are also present in the story? Why do you complain that a support character doesn’t fight any main villains(which isn’t even true as Robin has had to battles against high ranking members of the enemy factions)?
This isn’t even someone skimming the wiki, like how I first got into one piece(couldn’t afford the manga at the time), this is someone deliberately ignoring context and mischaracterizing every single facet of this series
What a shame. I actually liked "So this is basically JoJo" Tho, even there some jokes made me cringe. Like when he called Kakyoin a cardboard character.
But scenes with his versions of "Part 9" were gold. Especially the Smash Mouth.
Another thing to note about special paramecia is that the mochi mochi no mi doesn't make katakuri intangible, katakuri mimics that property using future sight
Hes done for the moment he has to face someone way too fast for him, like lets say Sanji or King with flames off fight him, they can harm him without using haki, they can't do the same for like ace or akainu
It works just like everyy other paramecia, it gives him the ability to turn his body into the material, but its not a always on, he has to use that power
its called special paramecia because it can create mochi, not cuz its like a logia
And another thing is that logia grants complete control over element, even from a distance, like ace straight up controlling fire multiple times in the show
Katakuri can't do that, he can't control some random mochi, he can only turn his body into mochi and use his body to fight
To add on top of 10:00 the suction cup thing was 4Kidz and they were spikes and werent poisoned in the original show. Literally bad faith.
His Video did exactly what he wanted. It was an huge success. Upstirring the Fanbase, getting clicks and views and even get other youtuber like you to react on this. THAT is the only Reason why he did that. He might get some negative press, but he also puts his golden TH-cam sign in his shelf because of this.
15:46 this guy probably just saw that some fish men were slaves then saw Arlong had Nami as a slave (not really) and said the entire race must be doing slavery
Bro Nami absolutely was a slave. Her Arlong tattoo is pretty much a slave brand. Plus there was the fact that she was literally chained to her desk for years before she started to take off as a thief. She might have been allowed to leave Arlong Park but she'd never be able to escape Arlong until Luffy came into her life.
To try to explain the dumb jokes he tells in the video:
He says you can leave the Grand line whenever you want because Pekoms (EDIT SEE BELOW POST ) and co were chased into the North Blue and he says that's completely impossible because of the calm belt but says it's because Oda is terrible at writing... Willl post more in replies as a watch more of the video.
People told him about the Black Maria fight and he basically just moved the goal post saying that it was a terrible fight because it was "too sexualized".
11:15 He basically considers every scene where a female character can't beat somebody and has to be saved by a man as sexism too... As in he thinks characters like Rebecca, Tashigi, and Carrot needed to solo Diamante, Monet, and Perospero do not be sexist.
The gay Nami thing: Basically during the reaction discord stream they did. They kept saying Nami was gay absolutely every single time she was in a 5-ft radius near a female character while being nice to them or sisterly and cherry-picked every time she scoffed at a male character as her being gay and Oda just not wanting to write her because he's a homophobe...
12:26 Basically because he cherry picks every single time Zoro saves a girl character from the bad guy about to attack her. With the start being when Enel was about to kill Robin and Zoro shouts while protecting her "She's a woman!" While oddly misinterpreting Zoro as being sexist while Enel was the one being sexist calling her an innocent lamb allowed to join his death gauntlet. He misinterpreted that as Enel acknowledging her as a warrior... Again, because he kept speedrunning binging the chapters and then complaining that it was the story's fault for not captivating him.
13:06
He purposely leaves out Franky because he absolutely hates him and says he's completely useless and can be written out of the show.
The joke he sets up being in the description of the video it says "Did you notice how me not putting Frankie in the video didn't affect it at all just like the plot of this stupid story? Exactly"
1:40 Yeah I agree I wouldn't say magic Legos, I'd say Giant Legos cause that honestly makes more sense. It's also lore accurate because in the current arc in Elbaf, we see there are in fact Giant Legos for Giants.
Did you notice that he crossed out Frankie, but also blurred his name. So either he really hates Frankie, or he didn’t watch the show and therefore didn’t realize that that was Frankie in a mask, was too lazy to go back and remove that strike, and settled for just blurring out the name, hoping no one would notice.
This is Mr Enter and that Anti-New Wish video all over again
That wasn't Mr. Enter, it was A.S.K. Alt.
I recommend reading through the fake wiki page he made for the video, cuz it's filled with even more vile and hate towards Oda
This video was a great example of why you should do some research before criticizing something. There are some genuine criticism here that is worth talking about, but 90% of it is just straight up false information and lies, and then 9% is clearly poorly interpreted, and pure biased subjective takes, it completely drowns out the things that could warrant actual criticism.
Not to mention, criticism should never be hateful like this. It's videos like this that shuns criticism from so many animes. Criticism is a good thing that should be more widely accepted, but hateful trash like this makes it so hard for that to happen.
10:10
Speaking of Reiju, in his "unnecessary characters" portion, he removed her, despite being the reason Sanji is alive.
@@Fatalis690 and the reason luffy is alive. If she didn't drink that poison, one piece ends early
@thespectresociety exactly; if Reiju was like Sanji's brothers, Luffy (and most likely the rest of them) would be dead.
Also, I feel like the polar tang could possibly go through the calm belt since their ship is just a submarine
I see... So this is the Spectre Society!
You missed the Black Vivi and Black Robin at the start.
I missed the Magic Legos. REALLY!
Merchant, Transport, Marines, & So many things.
Was it Z? Because Neo-Marines.
CALM BELT!
Giant Snakes.
Sea Prism Stone.
Overlap/Variation.
Fire.
Pica couldnt' be Dressrosa.
Yeah.
I mean the Kilo Kilo no mi has a lighter ceiling it seems while both might be able to float it's possible if they awakened or were mastered more even a Kilo user could find things they could do that a Ton user couldn't.
Partly the fun of the series. How these powers that seem quite useless become so strong.
I mean who thought Mochi and thought it would ever be a good power?
Or how the protag as Rubber (And a bit more later on).
But even how they used stretching and such was impressive for all the techniques.
Neither a Paramecia or a Logia.
Ontop of the fact that they use the worst character to represent Zoan's an Awakened Jailer Beast which they didn't exactly show an Awakened Paramecia user of of yet. Not an Awakened Logia user as of yet. Katakuri is Awakened but they didn't show how that worked. But they show an Awakened Jailer Beast and not a Zoan user who we maybe IDK. Have all 3 or 4 forms? Base, Transformed, Hybrid, & Awakened.
That's just how fights work. Even DBZ can be simplified to that.
Black POST TIMESKIP ROBIN AGAIN!
IS NOT THE STRONGEST!
This might be predicated off the concept that she has the Back or Neck Breaking techniques with her arms but... This is heavily balanced out by the fact that hitting those arms bring damage back to her even in her Black Maria fight her sort of Giant Avatar also sends the Damage back to her. It's similar to like how Ino will take the damage of who she Mind Tranfers into and if she dies in the Mind Transfer she doesn't go back as she just dies whether that's becuase she felt the pain of death or something IDK but that's just how it seems to work.
Even if that wasn't an issue it doesn't change the fact the hands don't have Haki and Logia and other things could counter them and the fact Robin is still a target and likely would have to know where her opponent is.
Even a Hypothetical no weakness of her own arms hurting her real body Robin with All 3 Haki's Mastered likely could get really high but still have possible weaknesses from normal fighters, snipers, & Such who could use Water and terrain against her along with anyone I think with strong Conquerers who could probably prevent the hands from being on them or someone like Sanji and Vergo who could be like Cybernetic + Regeneration harder to back break along with Haki and techniques and they would regen anyways with no way to put them down it would just be like a massive waste of stamina and a loss...
Yep. Holy you did an amazing explanation of the Black Maria fight.
What Oda does pretty well is make characters on the crew be able to fight and give them movesets. It kinda reminds me of those games that had characters that never truly fought or showed much being given like custom movesets for the game and how people see that as how they would fight. The characters have abilities and can fight but that doesn't mean they are meant to be a mainline fighter.
If anything One Piece would be the least Sexist out of the Big 3.
Yeah One Piece just did a LOT OF THINGS. In it's world. I could continue to watch Restless Gambler talk about the day Sanji Raided the Sea Train and that's cool as shit. But it doesn't change the fact that while that is cool it's not defining One Piece as a whole. Oda is someone drawing and amazing story and cooking up more and more. I've never been more hyped for what's to come rather than what came before and I think that alone shows how impressive they are. This is sort of like saying if Jojo's Slice of Life or any other possible Genre's it adds are better than the Stand Battles or the Part 1 Story when all of it is just how Jojo's moved forward as a Manga.
Refusing to waste more time.
Holy!
One Piece. It depends on the Media what the age ratings are compared to who can watch it and what parts but from a small search maybe some of the earlier stuff could be like 11 while some of the later stuff is like 14+ The Live Action and the Anime are different in some cases along with like their censored Versions evne further that never lasted...
The Fire and the Jungle.
4 Kids Useless Censored Dart from what I think.
Could have easily called him the Minority Hunter!
The Blackwashing.
Certainly looks like a Personal fanfiction.
Nah I'm here to defend the goat Sanji. What sort of things are they trying to say about my Boy?
They don't do anything clear and saying the good version from the Live Action is fucking wild!
What's that like Egghead statement thing? How like They could kill Lilith from an instant. Actually reading it back I'm pretty sure that she crossed her arms to be ready for that possiblity before we even see the pannel with her arms fully crossed however I don't know how the anime interprets it.
He really hates Franky and tries to hide them up.
Bro hating on them. Another thing is I don't really expect Jello to not care about Spoilers so I don't know if they couldn't animate them or why they didn't even show Silhouettes of the Elders form making me think they just don't know about that.
(Also better zoans to use an example.)
This never happened I think.
Icebergs...
The Library of Ohara!
Black Vivi again.
Yeah it would take hours to go over how much Raw BS!
More dumb shade!
That's Robin BTW! this Bias and weird shit.
Yeah personal attacks here are some BS.
Shade towards the Anime.
I'm convinced Pell Scales Stupidly High or he's already Awakened.
Maybe he had Haki or something else as well or maybe we'll learn the answers in the future.
It had a Note on it. (Correcting the Uta Uta No Mi).
Don't go there!
Trash!
Damn the hypocrisy!
A video made by someone who looked in likely barely not to constructively criticize but to attack and I wonder for what reason. Is it just because they hate the story overall but like characters and effectively wish they could have their own fanfiction.
@@ZelZ-.-z the Spectre Society welcomes you.
A bunch of people keep pointing out the black washing and to be honest, I just left it be because there was so many other incredibly bad takes he made, the change of colour was the least of my worries at that point.
But yes Robin is supposed to be clearly white, Russian I think, and vivi is from Egypt (if I remember correctly) so she should not be that dark either
@@ZelZ-.-z I went looking and found people saying pell is still alive cause of 9/11 and him dying like this in 2001
It could still be the zoan thing
there is an imgur image list(made for their patreon?) in which Jello and co react to the manga and it gives their (bad) reasons for what was depicted in this animation
(which sadly means that they did read the manga but that their interpretation of the manga was quite twisted)
Like the thing with Zoro in this animation
was due to him protecting a few characters instead of those characters saving themselves, and telling Enel that Robin was a women after Enel had thrown a lightning bolt though Robin's head
(which is also one of the reasons Jello does not like Rebecca due to her relying on Soldier(Kyros) and Luffy)
17:36 while I also am not fully sure why they think that Oda does not have/like his editors, But it seems that at least one part of their bad reasoning for that comes from SBS Volume 52 Question that starts with "Oda-sensei, you have assistants like other artists, right?..." (which in the Imgur had a note attached to it saying that "this is the reason Jello does not feel for Oda")
The entire video feels like bias, spite and borderline accusstory against Oda
You skipped over the characters he counted as nonessential, so if nobody mentioned it, he crossed out Franky as a picture wearing his Mask from Water 7 and blurred out the name to make it even hard to notice what he did. That and him not mentioning during the Straw Hat Crew section makes it obvious
Man, you'd think the 4Kids dub of the show was awful cringe. This made it look like almost a masterpiece.
In all fairness, at this point, no one that just wants to make a video about one piece will read all of it just for that
With how time-consuming it'd be and how little (procentige wise) you'd still remember or how much you would've written down
It's a fair point
But this guy did research then decided to flip it into lies instead, it's horrendous the hate he's holding
If you're not willing to put in the time and effort to thoroughly research something that you're going to make a video about then you just shouldn't make a video about it at all
Overall, it just feels like Jello made the video soley to alienate people from checking/still checking One Piece
Sure, you're free to dislike and have an opinion, but it's a completely different story when you dont want anyone to consume it
I won’t be surprised if this was done in spite because of the backlash his “contributions” to Love Complex got.
It’s a shame really, he clearly is capable of making a quality video, but his views in other peoples works seems a bit unhinged to a certain degree
I’m curious about that list of characters he thinks can be axed, but
1) I’m not going to give him a view
2) I’m sure it’s almost entirely arbitrary with no logic aside from “what will annoy people the most”
I followed Jello way back when he was funny, but can’t stand him ever since the Vote video.
I may hate the live action but the anime and manga are the best things I’ve watched and read since the films and novels of the lord of the rings. Ain’t no TH-camr ever going to convince me to go against something that’s been a part of my life so long! 😂
If I have a nickle everytime JelloApocalypse pissed off fan bases, I would have three... Damn it, that was a lot...
He went to r/PirateFolk didn't he
Just wanted to point out when he was marking off characters instead of smoker it was cancer
@@Nateisback1234 wow
@@thespectresociety by the way, keep up the good work
@@Nateisback1234 thank you! And sure will
The reason special paramecias exist is because oda forgot mochi doesn't count as an element and i ain't joking
@@Notabear6810 I think it's likely oda didn't realise some devil fruits enter 2 categories, and by the time he did, he just gave it a new category that exists between them
The mochi fruit fits the bill. But what's stranger? Luffy. Fits all 3 categories now,
I never want to see another One piece video from Jello, bro's been insulting the fans, Creator, production team, etc, at this point I'm not sure if Jello is trying to rage bait or not, I'm glad when I saw his video in my suggestions I didn't click on it, I had a feeling I wouldn't like it, but his video is MUCH worse than I thought
10:10 And that was post-timeskip, where Luffy had gained partial immunity to poison.
About Robin, once she took down a main villain of an important arc. And before you say "that guy was a weakling", it was still a badass moment for Robin since her enemy still had a lot of cruelty and authority.
Plus, she has a relatively high percentage of stomps in her favor.
I think the claim about the freed slaves becoming slavers themselves was about Arlong enslaving Nami's village, but even THAT'S wrong, because I don't think Arlong was ever a slave himself.
i actually didn't know this made ppl mad. I found it funny ngl
PLEASE stop calling everything people like a "community". Why can't you just call them "One Piece fans"? I mean, calling One Piece fans a "community" you make them sound like cultists or something.
It’s crazy. It’s not like you can stand up to the world government without paying huge price that other people also have to pay.
There is actually a single scene of Nami finding a girl attractive, it's more than any scene of her finding a guy attractive (which is so far 0), so here is a point for her being a lesbian is more likely than not
Vivi however has no known scenes of attraction to women, so there is that.
@@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle where?
@@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle oh was it kalifa
@@Coolman154-h1e
Can't blame her for it, I wish I had a secretary like that too.
Nami is not a lesbian, it was just a joke
@ThisisKyle Ok? Can you point a canon manga scene of Nami being attracted to a male character for me then? Because I can point one of her being attracted to a female character and 1 is still way more than 0
I always thought this "So this is basically" seems a bit off from the rest.
I’m glad we’re realizing how harmful and disingenuous jelloapocalypse videos really are
15:30 dude was probably just talking about Arlong and what he did to Nam, though I'm pretty sure wasn't a slave,
He removed franky that monster
I don’t dislike videos. His was The Exception.
It was just so disrespectful to everyone who’s a fan of One Piece. I enjoy the show a ton and the fact he just treated it like garbage and was so bias
Brenden is a master of reduction. anything he can reduce to a trope he will, its his true talent.
epithet erased it was forgotten for a reason jello was like what if i made my hero but bad and of course he locks it in the basement jello was born a coward
Epithet Erased is still being made
@that5089 epithet erased wasn't even animated lol and the characters are just as brainless as jello
@@jenniferdye6403 it was animated though. The show isn't that bad it's meant to be comedy
@that5089 sprites moving a little isn't animation so i say let go of that show and let go of jello
@@jenniferdye6403 why do I need to not like the show because you don't like how it looks?
I feel really let down by this video (Jello's video, not yours) I usually love his content, but this one was just.... different. I also barely know one piece, so I didn't really understand most of the issues. But what he said about the author and the characters.... something didn't feel right. And now I know why.
(His "so this is basically series" were my favorites and this is his first one in I think years now jello why 😭) I still love the guy and his content, but....idk what to do now.
@wooperfan584 my suggestion? Don't dig deeper into his true intentions. You won't be able to unsee it
@thespectresociety I.... fair enough ig lol.
_clings onto the miles is a robot and dogs in love series_ -i'm scared to find out now lmao-
@wooperfan584 😂
I get JelloApocalypse personal frustrations, and I feel like a lot of the personal insults flung his way are uncalled for. He's roasting the show, he roast a lot of the shows, it's just usually he doesn't get as many facts wrong about the series nor does he typically attack creators. That different from just having negative opinions on a property... but I still mostly don't care. I'm sure the video got attention like he wanted, even though it probably wasn't the kind of attention he did want. (Still though, "This is basically One Piece" had a lot of potential in being really funny... so it's disappointing missed opportunity)
I still like Jello's original comic, at least of what I've seen
I have to question Robin not being the strongest female character. I'm mean sure, not by Luffy, Zoro or Sanji's type of strong. But her powers and mind make her a terrifying force. At least if Oda was creative with her powers. Her along with several other characters are majorly underutilized. As brilliant of a writer as Oda is, his creativity for some reason doesn't go to exploring what Devil Fruits can do most of the time. And I'm not throwing shade at Oda. I just can't understand why some powers get expanded upon and others don't. Like before Gear 5 was introduced I had the idea of Luffy condensing his Rubber body instead of Stretching it. Making it tougher while still keeping it shock absorbing properties.
@@akirandrake414 Robins powers did get expanded upon greatly.
It went from sprouting her own limbs from anywhere, to making gigantic versions of her own limbs, to using her limbs to make things like nets and wings, to straight up cloning herself, to making a giant demonic avatar of herself, she wasn't under utilised nor were her powers not developed, you just need to pay attention to her development to see it
As for luffy condensing himself, that's not how rubber functions. It expands. Not shrink, if he wanted strength he can always add haki to himself, and he does.
Becoming smaller is a disadvantage in Onepiece.
Finally, the strongest woman is big mom
A villain who was done perfectly, and stands to this day as the most resilient character, that includes men too btw, only kaido can ever hope to match her durability.
Representation is there, characters are well used and given proper development
You just need to actually focus
I'm liking this guy less and less the more I hear about him.
I'm not even a super fan of One Piece and even I can see the BS in this video! Jello should stop making these videos before he ends up ruining the perception of these shows for newcomers.🤦🏻♀️
In a singular point of defense, insulting the one piece anime is also a key part of the one piece fandom lol.
Oda appreciates his assistants and fans he was surprised the wiki keeps track of every move the strawhats used in their fights because he forgets sometimes. The reason he probably was the one person that saw carrot as cute and the other word but the moment he saw her age was all nope I'm not a pdfile at least he didn't go the route of the one most dangerous one piece fan. Hating rebecca because she counts on luffy and kyros seriously shes human she couldn't do much against donflamingo and if it wasn't for luffy she would've ended viola and be traumatized by it. He just seems like a jealous of shows succeeding or when he gets rejected or wronged in a job he takes his anger out on the shows or series as being funny. Like leaked discords say he wants certain creators to game end themselves. Hes done this to rwby leaked a spoiler because he didn't make it to the final call. Overall this guy needs a new hobby or get out of the industry even the industry he works are blacklisting him because he is bad for business