The 2007 video of 3-man onyxia is a different story, they used TBC talents, also they had full t3, this seems like a legit world first for actual classic wow, nicely done!
That's also because in vanilla not much thought was put into stacking so many different world buffs. T2 geared players with all the buffs they have on is even stronger than someone in T3 without them. Definitely a lot of prep was put into this. Looks like they even have one of the Un'goro buffs and even the UBRS fire resist buff.
@@BLAZETANGO It could have, if people would have gathered the information. It was possible. But this guy, Blackout, blaming Actiblizzard for letting WoW fall off and quitting, when this was their very first game is just utter bullshit.
@@petar2761 my realm specifically was heavily horde dominant, from my understanding a lot were. So alliance guilds mass migrated to the same servers so they wouldnt get farmed in their major cities.
@@markarato8034 Healers mana out because of how many people they have to heal, since the fireball has an AoE. Less people, means less get hit with each fireball and you only have to heal 1 person per fireball rather than 5. I prefer to 10-15 man Ony for a consistent run, any more people and the chance of someone fucking up or healers going oom increases.
@@markarato8034 Holy Paladins get a talent with 5/5 points to refund 100% mana cost on a critical heal. Down ranking heals, with lots of +healing and crit means a paladin can have almost infinite mana
In classic wow flash of light gains same bonus healing even despite spell rank... So while not being fastest or biggest over time it's probably cheapest.
True! That said, less people can mean less chance for raid-wiping mistakes. That's why I always liked my 10-man raid progression core over the 25-mans we had to carry along.
Was thinking the same, why bother putting a keybind on it if u are going to just click on it every single time lol...made no sense at all to me, but still was a good job killing it :)
"Onyxia down after 46 minutes and 28.29 seconds! Your last kill took 4 minutes and 10.84 seconds and your fastest kill took 1 minute and 57.35 seconds." LOL
These guys have the best loot in the game, every single buff and potting like mad. I would argue any content is 3 man able when you're overgeared and overbuffed for the content.
Nobody even says that Classic is hard, it's a fake narrative created by angry kids who never got to experience real Vanilla. Classic though is a heavily nerfed version of Vanilla with incorrect patch and itemization=buffed items meaning you can faceroll everything from start i.eg Ragnaros with lvl 55s and green gear. You can't compare Vanilla and Classic. Both are easy, but Classic is way easier than Vanilla was.
you got SOOOO LUCKY at 26:17 when you were under her during the breath.... but yeah. amazing, outstanding, AWESOME video!! You guys are legends! Great job. All that private server experience pays off!!! xD
Not to burst everyone’s bubble, but this was done back in July in China. I had a group that was 5-7 manning Ony regularly and we used those logs to help us
Here's the WCL - July 18th and nearly 10 minutes faster classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4r6THKQRw9V8AtLk#fight=1&type=damage-done Still not bad, but sorry dudes China won
@@Theldanis - Without that Paladin, this would not be possible. You are not going to be able to do this with any other class because Paladins are efficient. He was also on top of everything and managed his cooldowns well.
Well done! Even though there is a lot of things that got me questioning life here (clicking man, stop it), it's still enjoyable to see people trying to push themselves to make Classic challenging for themselves. ^^
probably trying to get more thunderfury procs, he doesn't have anything else to use rage on since he already spams bloodthirst on cooldown and revenge on proc
@@kirillvourlakidis6796 He does not spam bloodthirst on cooldown, there are multiple times during the fight he's just spamming sunder with bloodthirst up. Also, heroic strike exists.
@@stevev-hehimhis1892 its number 2, im assuming its a queue cancel macro. Hes still just spamming sunders and sometimes bloodthirst. Don't deserve TF when Im 57 kills dry for garr binding 😥
@@mybuttsmellslikebutterbut207 we talk about Classic, not about the steaming bag of shit that is retail. I advise you not to pick a fight with the classic side of the community, they are often toxic and you will only make a target out of you. Also: r/wooooooooooosh
eli-boy 747 ah yes classic. The ultimate 2 button rotation, 1 if you play mage. Gee those frost bolts are so hard to pull off one after another. Why someone would want to play content older than my brother is beyond me. I guess some people like walking around with shitty mogs, oh wait classic doesn’t even have transmogs. Welp some people just can’t seem to take off those rose tinted goggles. I guess people like walking around as they appear in real life, steaming bags of shit. I didn’t know they stack shit that high.
Wow!!! Is lowman raids and dungeon possible in not classic, the normal retail? Either full run or some separate encounters or bosses. Might come to wow for this stuff
Nice achievement, Congratulations! Well done. But guys...Imagine what good players can achieve in this game.... :O Clicking ability's, not using Bloodthirst on CD when 5 thunder armor is up, Not having full consumes for the whole fight, Discussing tactics while fighting.... Man really shows what we human beings we're capable of! Don't be afraid when TBC comes out and Illidan screams "Your are NOT prepaaaared!...", Because these three guys weren't either xD
Just goes to show you don't need to be a good player to be good classic WoW player. ^^ Game was made in completely different time and made for the skill of gamers of that time. Just remember that idea for WoW came from everquest.
I fast forward most of this and every time it's the one guy trying to tell the other guys what they should be doing and they're like yeah I did that already and he's like ohhh yeah ok ok ok heheheh
You need to be able to bring her down in phase 2. You need ranged and likely physical because a caster dps isn’t going to be able to bring her down, maybe a warlock since life tap. That’s the only other choice really. If phase 2 didn’t exist then they could have 2 manned it.
Its not a world first, it was done back in the day aswell. There is just no video because of Hardware reasons. i still remember the time the trade chat was going wild because it was done. But its still impressive, very good job, well done!
The end when you had to press Alt + Z to hide your interface was really frustrating. First, you didn't even know what to call it. "How can I toggle my hide my actionbars?" Second, the dude answered you Alt + Zed and you said "yeah but I keybound mine to something else." No you didn't -- you can see in the keybinds it's still Alt + Zed, but for some reason you change it to Z. Great kill but I just had to comment on that last part.
Member when people said classic was the “hardcore” version and every raid boss was super hard? I member For real tho this is pretty cool, just 3 Bros chilling and killing onyxia.
While I don't doubt those claims were exaggerated, it's also true that Blizzard released the nerfed version of classic with lower AI damage across the board and higher player damage as well as better gear than was available plus certain mechanics such as negative resistances were removed. (Ever wonder why mobs everywhere give you buffs to reduce your resistance by 50, 100, 200 300 when you don't even wear resistance gear? It's because you went into negative resistance and took additional damage)
Back during WotLK, we would 2 man Ony for a gold farm (Orc warrior/UD priest). This went on for a few weeks, and to our surprise, Blizz then went and turned her into a lvl 80 raid. Idk if that was always planned, but it was a good couple months and I still tell people that we may have forced Blizz to make that happen. I wouldn't be surprised if they buff her again.
The 2007 video of 3-man onyxia is a different story, they used TBC talents, also they had full t3, this seems like a legit world first for actual classic wow, nicely done!
That's also because in vanilla not much thought was put into stacking so many different world buffs. T2 geared players with all the buffs they have on is even stronger than someone in T3 without them. Definitely a lot of prep was put into this. Looks like they even have one of the Un'goro buffs and even the UBRS fire resist buff.
@@CogniVision correct, we use two different kinds of ungoro crystals. 6 thorn buff and 6 budget sapper
There is hunter in Vanilla who solo’ed Ony
@@ibragima4181 no there isnt
@@ibragima4181 Yeah yeah sure, and then the whole bus clapped
Here before the bald one reacts
Bald Thunderfury? Is that a thing?
i think you mean the mald one
CHAT SPAM LULW
Who could have thought
Same
The guy from the 50dkp minus video is eating his heart out right now.
He's immortalised like Leroy.
Okay boosters, time to multibox and sell onyxia runs.
😓
Big true
@Blackout ????? this is vanilla. Meaning, this could have been done back then too, giving good internet of course etc.
kluasVT no. Nobody knew the information we know today. You can’t say this could have been done back then.
@@BLAZETANGO It could have, if people would have gathered the information. It was possible. But this guy, Blackout, blaming Actiblizzard for letting WoW fall off and quitting, when this was their very first game is just utter bullshit.
Horde: dominates classic
Alliance: guess we'll 3 man the content...
is that a thing in classic too? as ally back in the day we just couldnt catch a break on our server
@@petar2761 my realm specifically was heavily horde dominant, from my understanding a lot were. So alliance guilds mass migrated to the same servers so they wouldnt get farmed in their major cities.
@elitist douche bag on our vanilla server back in the day we couldnt win 1 AV months and months and months into the game
This guys killing Onyxia with 3 people while my random raid group yesterday somehow managed to wipe twice lmao
@Dsylxeypanda Ow how does the healer not run out of mana? It took almost an hour
@@markarato8034 he is rank 1 flash of lighting most of the time which costs 35 mana
@Dsylxeypanda Ow yeah i get your point less people means less whelps :)
@@markarato8034 Healers mana out because of how many people they have to heal, since the fireball has an AoE. Less people, means less get hit with each fireball and you only have to heal 1 person per fireball rather than 5. I prefer to 10-15 man Ony for a consistent run, any more people and the chance of someone fucking up or healers going oom increases.
@@markarato8034 Holy Paladins get a talent with 5/5 points to refund 100% mana cost on a critical heal. Down ranking heals, with lots of +healing and crit means a paladin can have almost infinite mana
The paladin's mana bar just doesn't care.
I read somewhere he used 13 major mana potions
@@christophebalson2074 And runes. But paladin mana management is really good.
If they crit they get all mana back.
He is also using seal of wisdom and judgement of wisdom and hitting the boss constantly for mana regen.
In classic wow flash of light gains same bonus healing even despite spell rank... So while not being fastest or biggest over time it's probably cheapest.
2:05 " Draven is busy fighting against 40 player - Onyxia (95% (Stage 1), *3/3* people alive)" - Hotsie: "WHAT"
If any guild wipes on ony now, their GMs have to redirect them to this video: there is no excuse to wipe on ony anymore xd
Except this guy managed to get hit by MOST of the deep breaths lol.
True! That said, less people can mean less chance for raid-wiping mistakes. That's why I always liked my 10-man raid progression core over the 25-mans we had to carry along.
@@mcfarvo fewer.
The less you are, the easier it is.
@@pem74600 fewer.
This guy is so Classic he doesn't even use Ctrl + S to disable sound kekw
he has edited hotkeys if you notice c-S over his engineering shortcut bottom right... i thought the same thing until i noticed! :D
I'm happy for you having a blast when you did that with your friends! :)
Was waiting for someone to redo the 3man onyxia. Well done doing it without naxx gear :D
Tanks
"You don't need Battle Shout." This is 100% always wrong.
This is why they added enrage timers for most raid bosses lol
yea classic blizzard ruining fun times
@@cv3nda367 nothing about this looks fun😂
@@cv3nda367 One of my biggest issues, if your players wanna solo duo or three man content and spend hours prepping and doing it fuckin let 'em
@@joshwood9164 it`s not fair, or last boss will be killed in the first day with 1 tank 2 dps and 17 healers...
@@ToBeXaS lmao like you could actually find 17 healers day one
all the deep breath resists lmao
The Bald One is coming HIDE YOUR HAIRLINES!
The only way a healer gets an ony head
i got ony head as a healer
Lol I got the head as a healer but only after many runs when all of the guild members who could utilize it already had it
This was like onyxia run after deep breath wipes 90% of the raid and the remaining survivors take her down but entire fight this time. Very nice
ngl the clicking and the freaking out every fear triggered me so bad lol
Was thinking the same, why bother putting a keybind on it if u are going to just click on it every single time lol...made no sense at all to me, but still was a good job killing it :)
Bald man will be proud that warrior helped do something cool for once
"Onyxia down after 46 minutes and 28.29 seconds! Your last kill took 4 minutes and 10.84 seconds and your fastest kill took 1 minute and 57.35 seconds." LOL
i love how he is happy about 50g when he has over 4k gold 😂😂😂
In all fairness this IS classic WoW. 50 Gold is pretty damn good
weeks of planing, preparations and test runs...
*clicks berserker rage*
:D
“Classic is so hard - Retail so ez” goes by 3 Manning a raid boss and main raids getting cleared in days. Nostalgia is a disease we love to live with.
These guys have the best loot in the game, every single buff and potting like mad. I would argue any content is 3 man able when you're overgeared and overbuffed for the content.
Nobody even says that Classic is hard, it's a fake narrative created by angry kids who never got to experience real Vanilla. Classic though is a heavily nerfed version of Vanilla with incorrect patch and itemization=buffed items meaning you can faceroll everything from start i.eg Ragnaros with lvl 55s and green gear. You can't compare Vanilla and Classic. Both are easy, but Classic is way easier than Vanilla was.
@@ankeborg9122 what do you mean exactly with buffed items?
Imagine 3 manning onyxia and not knowing you can press Ctrl+S to disable game sound.
you got SOOOO LUCKY at 26:17 when you were under her during the breath.... but yeah. amazing, outstanding, AWESOME video!! You guys are legends! Great job. All that private server experience pays off!!! xD
The real question is how much ammo did the hunter use? :D
Fuck yeah this is what we need to know.
About 900
@@dravengandling7552 did you math that out or are you the previously mentioned hunter?
Myskully14 hed the uploader
All the ammo
wow missed this back in the day, this is really good stuff! fantastic dedication!
MVP Paladin. This Warrior clicking his way to world first.
3 vikings gank poor dragon 961 A.D colorized
Much respect and congrats. This was magnificent!
Thanks
Not to burst everyone’s bubble, but this was done back in July in China. I had a group that was 5-7 manning Ony regularly and we used those logs to help us
Here's the WCL - July 18th and nearly 10 minutes faster
classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4r6THKQRw9V8AtLk#fight=1&type=damage-done
Still not bad, but sorry dudes China won
Great job guys!!!
This paladin does DPS worth retri wow!
Any geared tank with consumes can do this. The real hero is that Paladin.
The paladin is standing around all fight pressing 1 button.
@@Theldanis - Without that Paladin, this would not be possible. You are not going to be able to do this with any other class because Paladins are efficient. He was also on top of everything and managed his cooldowns well.
@@27Zangle The only thing he was on top was the edge so he won't get feared away :D
@@Theldanis - haha! My mage stays on the edge and spams one button, my shaman actually has to come down for totems.
This video will never not be impressive
Well done!
Even though there is a lot of things that got me questioning life here (clicking man, stop it), it's still enjoyable to see people trying to push themselves to make Classic challenging for themselves. ^^
these are the guys that are always alive
I sense a disturbance in the force...the withered Maldi-Won Baldnobi approaches! ^^
How can u kill onyxia in 3 man but not know that CTRL+S turn sounds off and on ?
Because Ctrl+S is a A-tier bind.. meaning its bound to something else.
It’s because classic is easy.
Not everyone is a mouseclicker buddy
hello, its not world first
there were ony logs from some chinese threesome warrior+hunter+paladin allready in january
@@bossman2262 no it was in phase 2 classic
Link the logs then
Great job guys!!!You make Gandling proud!!
Holyanger
Him keeping pressing sunder armor with 5 stacks and massive threat gain hurts my eyes :D Gz on kill tho.
probably trying to get more thunderfury procs, he doesn't have anything else to use rage on since he already spams bloodthirst on cooldown and revenge on proc
@@kirillvourlakidis6796 He does not spam bloodthirst on cooldown, there are multiple times during the fight he's just spamming sunder with bloodthirst up.
Also, heroic strike exists.
Kicker exactly. Just another mongo tank with tf. What a crutch
lol I don't even see heroic strike anywhere on his bars lol, the hell??
@@stevev-hehimhis1892 its number 2, im assuming its a queue cancel macro. Hes still just spamming sunders and sometimes bloodthirst. Don't deserve TF when Im 57 kills dry for garr binding 😥
World buffs in classic are so broken. You have level ones killing level 20s and people three manning Onyxia. Great game.
Imagine you text you bro ingame and DBM says "fighting 40 Player Onyxia *3/3 players* alive
poooooooog
What a flex
Yea man for sure. I can one hit Garrosh. What a flex.
@@mybuttsmellslikebutterbut207 we talk about Classic, not about the steaming bag of shit that is retail. I advise you not to pick a fight with the classic side of the community, they are often toxic and you will only make a target out of you.
Also: r/wooooooooooosh
eli-boy 747 ah yes classic. The ultimate 2 button rotation, 1 if you play mage. Gee those frost bolts are so hard to pull off one after another. Why someone would want to play content older than my brother is beyond me. I guess some people like walking around with shitty mogs, oh wait classic doesn’t even have transmogs. Welp some people just can’t seem to take off those rose tinted goggles. I guess people like walking around as they appear in real life, steaming bags of shit. I didn’t know they stack shit that high.
@@mybuttsmellslikebutterbut207 lmao you are a sad strange little man
this is how intense it was tanking WC as an enh
Wow!!! Is lowman raids and dungeon possible in not classic, the normal retail? Either full run or some separate encounters or bosses.
Might come to wow for this stuff
Not saying this isn’t impressive, but didn’t 3 people from China do this like 3-4 months ago?
Correct
Was around phase 2 if I remember correctly
it was a 5 man, no?
post proof or it didnt happen
Nice achievement, Congratulations! Well done.
But guys...Imagine what good players can achieve in this game.... :O Clicking ability's, not using Bloodthirst on CD when 5 thunder armor is up, Not having full consumes for the whole fight, Discussing tactics while fighting.... Man really shows what we human beings we're capable of! Don't be afraid when TBC comes out and Illidan screams "Your are NOT prepaaaared!...", Because these three guys weren't either xD
If tbc classic comes out Ilidan will say that we're way too prepared
Are they sons of Rextroy ?
that mr Pally had plenty of mana all the fight :D What a beast!
we can all thank holy spec for this one. gj.
Faster than the withered one. Baldmongold
0 Heroic Strikes were used this day
Good ole classic/vanilla when most of your bar is trinkets, consumables and engineering stuff lol
Hey bald, i'm a big fan of you. Gratz from Brazil
Ed Edd n Eddy: Warcraft edition, episode 1, 3 man onyxia
Classis wow becomes a bigger meme by the second.
From one Draven to another, cheers lads, well done. (Yes we met in BGs) =) Tho avoid clicking so much, triggers my OCD!
Haha what a dad-gamer-pve-lord. Its like watching someone play "whack a mole" with all the clicking going on here.
Just goes to show you don't need to be a good player to be good classic WoW player. ^^
Game was made in completely different time and made for the skill of gamers of that time. Just remember that idea for WoW came from everquest.
and he is still able to clear content that was made for 40 people with 2 others haha
such a joke
@K D I beg of you to send me your armory. :)
@K D try playing a warrior tank, I bet you'd wipe the raid. Warriors have a very high skill ceiling in classic wow.
@K D cant wait to see all ur cutting edge achievements
Bro you 3 manned ony and you don't know you can ctrl + S to mute in game sound?
perhaps he had ctrl + s keybinded to something else
Imagine 3 manning Onyxia and not knowing that Ctrl+s mutes all sound. WuW
Plus he doesn't know that alt+z removed the interface for the screenshot
Manuel Rendon he says in the video he can’t use its as it’s a hot key for his recording software too
Imagine not seeing he has rebound Ctrl+s on his hotbar. WUwwwuw
congrats! very nice!
GJ takes dedication for a challenge like this
I fast forward most of this and every time it's the one guy trying to tell the other guys what they should be doing and they're like yeah I did that already and he's like ohhh yeah ok ok ok heheheh
seems legit.Gratz guys !
For the alliance, my dude.
Last month: first naked raid onyxia
this month: first 3 people onyxia
Next month: first lvl 1 onyxia raid
Next month: first solo hunter kills ony
which addon do u use to give your active spells a glow on the icon? exg. the sunder is glowing red when its alrdy active on your target.
League of Legends Draven: Welcome to the League of Draven!
WoW Draven: *Kills onyxia with 2 other people.* Welcome to the WORLD of Draven!
Nice ninjalooter
Why are there no captains coming from the ramp area in the air phase?
wow amazing and it was done on my realm great job guys!
Additional view camera perspective from hunter and pally would be nice
Hey, do you know why your TF procs at 297dmg instead of 270? Cheers
Do you think it will be possible to 2 man ony with naxx gear?
You need to be able to bring her down in phase 2. You need ranged and likely physical because a caster dps isn’t going to be able to bring her down, maybe a warlock since life tap. That’s the only other choice really. If phase 2 didn’t exist then they could have 2 manned it.
Well done guys , i love it. Classic attitude
*Goes through 50 minute fight*
*3 people whisper congrats*
/dnd ty
how did you just change your trinket in combat @ 6:57 ???
Didn't a chinese trio do this like phase 2 or 3? Pretty sure they were way less geared and pulled this off
Well now... All of my memories of this being hard gone to waste 😅
Cant wait for TBC classic
Its not a world first, it was done back in the day aswell. There is just no video because of Hardware reasons. i still remember the time the trade chat was going wild because it was done. But its still impressive, very good job, well done!
Sure jan
The end when you had to press Alt + Z to hide your interface was really frustrating.
First, you didn't even know what to call it. "How can I toggle my hide my actionbars?"
Second, the dude answered you Alt + Zed and you said "yeah but I keybound mine to something else." No you didn't -- you can see in the keybinds it's still Alt + Zed, but for some reason you change it to Z.
Great kill but I just had to comment on that last part.
Stephen Logan lol?
@@NYlocked yeah I know lol grats on the kill I watched the entire thing and you executed it flawlessly.
He was using GeForce experience so the recording would end if he hit alt z so he rebound it
Gratz what are the addons you use?>
You can sell boosts of this with a geared warrior, a paladin/shaman hunter, and 3-5 mages
Sooo lucky with the breaths. 😅
Duo onyxia when?
Member when people said classic was the “hardcore” version and every raid boss was super hard? I member
For real tho this is pretty cool, just 3 Bros chilling and killing onyxia.
Oh I member.
Doing bosses at maximum raid capacity is the easy mode. Doing bosses with as few people possible is hardmode. Flex mode before flex mode itself.
While I don't doubt those claims were exaggerated, it's also true that Blizzard released the nerfed version of classic with lower AI damage across the board and higher player damage as well as better gear than was available plus certain mechanics such as negative resistances were removed. (Ever wonder why mobs everywhere give you buffs to reduce your resistance by 50, 100, 200 300 when you don't even wear resistance gear? It's because you went into negative resistance and took additional damage)
@@jearden223 Interesting. Do you have any proof that npc damage is too low and player damage is too high compared to 2006 vanilla?
Yesssss
MOSKALUS HERE WTF
This is fucking brilliant
I have that playing every time. It’s hilarious
why do you have keybinds if you click instead? :o
Can I ask you what addons do you use on cooldowns, attack swing timer, and equipment swap? Thank you so much!
This
So rextroy hasent 1 man tonyxia yet?
That was GREAT!!!
imagine showing this to someone in 2004
We 2-man it lvl 60 with 2 druids with Peurderien on EU, it was with BC talents though
This 3 man comp was done 15 years ago
True, but it was done with T3 gear + BC talents (Bc Prepatch)
how many arrows did that poor hunter had to shoot lol
Back during WotLK, we would 2 man Ony for a gold farm (Orc warrior/UD priest). This went on for a few weeks, and to our surprise, Blizz then went and turned her into a lvl 80 raid. Idk if that was always planned, but it was a good couple months and I still tell people that we may have forced Blizz to make that happen. I wouldn't be surprised if they buff her again.