Sukuna is an actual warrior that revels in combat, and follows the ideal of absolute power, and constantly fought against people relative to him, that could even kill him. Muzan is a coward that really avoids combat and relies on brute strength. Hes a big fish in a small pond.
@@kenankhaled2280 he is still right tho,tbh sukuna could have figured it out how to bypass infinity but it would be much slower ,if he didnt had mahoraga in the first place the fight wouldnt have happened,sukuna knew mahoraga was gonna adapt gojos infinity and show him how to bypass it.if he didnt had 10 shadows he def would not pick a fight with gojo and observe him far away or use his minions or people to test how to bypass infinity or how it works
@@cipher5984 all mahoraga did was figure it out for him. It’s not like mahoraga was used to kill Gojo. It was just used to figure out a way that sakuna could bypass infinity. Plus, he still had a full restore so he could use his domain while Gojo couldn’t and that’s a clap. The only real concern is getting clapped after killing Gojo, but I bet he also has more techniques he can use.
@@azell1220 "Little weaker". We using the argument that demons can only be killed by the sun or nichirin blade? Cus even then Gojo negs both Muzan and Yoriichi.
Sukuna is willing to learn adapt and evolve his abilities, techniques, and himself and has a deep understanding of himself from an enlightened level despite essentially being pure evil, he accepts that hes pure evil and lives how he wants. He is an actual villain, and a force. Muzan was never really a character, hes best described as a thing, thats always hungry and to be honest i dont even think he knows himself. Despite both muzan and sukuna living 1000 years Muzan hasnt actually lived, hes always grouchy, in a bad mood and ready to kill his subordinates for any reason, hes only ever been surviving for 1000 years and part of that can be attributed to yorichi putting his ass in his place, but rather than learn and evolve from this experience hes scared shitless and just decides to hide for centuries. Its also worth pointing out that Muzan DOES have a blood demon art and we've only ever seen it ONCE and never again afterwarda he just abuses his speed, power, and body. Personally between the two I do think Sukuna would win not from pure strength but from intelligence and understanding, Muzan doesnt do a lot of work himself and delegates it to others to do and achieve for him, one big factor is the sun he waits for someone else to conquer it before going to reap the rewards from Nezuko. Sukuna on the other hand is able to quickly pick up on ideas, strategies, and techniques, sure he has been taught some techniques like soul swaping from Kenjaku but hes more than capable of learning such things himself, but aware that it will take a while. Muzan would mostly abuse his demon body, physical speed, and strength, and this would impress Sukuna to a degree but overtime he may figure out that an elongated battle against muzan would be too taxing as he never loses staminia and may just resort in popping his domain expansion to end the fight quickly or toy with muzan until sun rise and force his ass to bake. Edit: In the demon slayer universe I personally believe Kokushibou and/or Akaza would be a better fit to fight Sukuna considering they'd make his time fighting them worth while unlike Muzan.
Considering how hedonistic sukuna is I'm pretty sure he'd get bored of waiting for sunrise and just eat him outright to find out what a demon tastes like lol, even if he becomes a demon he would probably be able to tank sunlight damage with RCT healing himself until his body gained a resistance to sunlight
@@mep15067 the thing is the reason why muzan never conquered the sun in 1000 years is because he's a fucking dumbass, he'd constantly make enemies by turning family members into demons putting the family against muzan despite him trying to be sneaky. He also killed multiple humans that knew about the blue spider lily for no reason, like tanjiros mom, he doesn't even bother asking any of them about Intel about it, even knowing it only blooms in the day is crucial information yet even that wasn't deduced by muzan, telling the twelve kizuki to just "look for it". Sukuna kills sometimes for no reason but he is by far less trigger happy than muzan, smarter and knows when to first collect Intel before acting. Muzan, when learning about nezuko conquering the sun, doesn't secure his win condition and the first thing he does is walk into a fucking trap by the demon slayers. He should've spent that time planning how he should absorb nezuko and where she is securing his win condition yet he spent nearly two arcs battling an almost fruitless battle against the demon slayers with nezuko being minutes away from being cured and losing his win con, had he won the battle he would still be back at square one since nezuko had been turned back into a human, sure he could try turning her back but tamayo's poison would still be potent within nezuko not to mention she might just flee the country or die. Give Sukuna muzans abilities, blood, and hax he'd probably figure out everything behind the blue spider lily in less than a century. He's smart and would've actually stayed hidden and wouldn't just make a shit ton of demons and enemies as well. Once he conquers the sun it's old Sukuna back but now he's unkillable and has infinite stamina, it's just ggs as that point.
@@enlilus2093in the world of jjk reversed cursed technique takes a lot out of the sorcerer, demons do it all the time without problem and almost instantaneously idk what you on about
Man, this is like comparing New Yugioh to Old Yugioh lol. My man Sukuna out here reading out his 10 paragraphs of reality-bending feats, and then there's Muzan who's like: "uh, i have demon virus and uh... Tentacles! Yeahhhh, veryyy sharp tentacles, heh, yeah, be afraid. Of my tentacles."
Virgin Muzan : Ran away from the only being able to beat him and hide for centuries in fear that somebody is able to kill him. Chad Sukuna🗿: dominate the strongest era of sorcerer risk his life to reincarnate in other Era just bc he enjoy life never afraid of smoke
At least they can agree on one thing: all those regular humans shouldn't throw away their lives trying to kill them, they should instead just live their little, short lives elsewhere.
you also forgot that muzan stupidly killed his Lower Moons just because one failed doing nothing but existing and that Muzan could have killed Tanjiro from the first time they met and would have managed to kill every Demon Slayer
People don’t even realize that muzan is the real fraud. Sukuna at least has the power to back up his strength and he proved himself as the king curses. Muzan literally spent all his years hiding from a the strongest slayer and literally had PTSD so bad that his own cells still remembered him getting washed. At least the guy that sukuna was fighting was actually the strongest sorcerer. muzan was literally getting jumped by some orphans, an emo, a blind man, bakugo 2.0, a e girl and a snake boy. He calls himself the strongest demon but he gets crippled by a cat! 😂
virgin muzan - runing away from a human who could kill him and getting PTSD just by seeing his ear ring 💀 couldn't even beat 9 kids who just beat him by breathing VS Chad sukuna who fucked whole heian era which was golden age of jujutsu then travelling to modern era just to have smoke with strongest of modern era and killing the strongest of edo era too 💀
I only see one fraudulent one and it ain’t Sukuna lol, can’t call him a fraud when he is literally using his smarts to get the win. Muzan however is a dumbass from beginning to end. We honestly need to end the narrative of Sukuna being a fraud…it’s extremely played out and got really old, just enjoy the narrative and a villain being a villain.
ngl im curious what 20 finger Sukuna with no mahoraga vs Gojo not holding back (he was holding back to avoid mahoraga adapting) would look like cuz even gojo said he wasnt giving the fight his all
The funniest part is that Sukuna still has much more stuff up his sleeve: Kamutoke with it's lightning strikes Hiten with its energy draining The 10 shadows with whichever Shikigami inherited the now destroyed Mahoraga's adaptation power and possibly even more random bullshit with whatever the "Open" ability is... (Speculation ->) I'd imagine that he could even use cursed technique reversal on the fire arrow and just freeze Muzan in place
Kamutoke aka Vajra of Jujutsu Kaisen disperses thunder just like it does in the mythologies. Hiten being the Trishula that drains life force, the only thing that makes sense is for it to drain Cursed Energy
@@theechosenone4471Hiten represents Trishula and its Kanji is translated to Flying Heaven. Flying Heaven means above the earth, earth the home of every life force.
Muzan: “Let’s see you do anything when I’m hiding in a crowd…” Sukuna: “Alright everybody welcome back to Sukuna’s Malevolent Kitchen, today we got 97% human meat with a hint of Demon meat on the 3%, salted and seasoned for half off our original prices.”
taking their verse into account, this fight was so miss matched from the start. This is like making a vid about final form frieza vs Baki hanma. I mean in JJK they create black holes and have light speed feats. In Demon Slayer Muzan cant even finish off a bunch of asthmatic kids with swords
I know this is a joke, but You're glazing JJK. JJK characters do NOT have light speed feats. And Yuki was the only character who could create ONE black hole, NOT black HOLES.
@@hero303-gameplayindonesia8depends. theoretically gojo's purple should be ftl since it's an imaginary mass. so just reacting to it puts you somewhere around light speed. and there is the pre culling games maki who could catch a bullet from a revolver. revolver bullets travel at around mach 2-3 i think so you can imagine how fast you'd have to be to react to and catch one. but yeah mostly just hypersonic speed aside from the top 5 or something
@@mr.p215 1 reality cutting dismantle slash is way bigger than Muzan He will get erased Not only that Sukuna can send hundreds of them at the same time A wall of reality cutting slash Kashimo FTL character couldn't dodge 1 dismantle even after Sukuna warned him before attacking
Sukuna vs Gojo proved just how intelligent Sukuna is when it comes to battle IQ. He had adaptation with Mahoraga as a backup plan just in case he would lose the domain clash opening. Even if somehow Muzan could do ANYTHING lethal to Sukuna, Sukuna wouldnt let it happen again. Also, for the Gojo meatriders, Gojo was dead to rights. It wasnt an asspull 💀💀💀💀
Bc it was only recommended to jjk fans, hear me out, not nerfed Muzan is equivalent to 18 fingers of Sukuna, if you want me to explain it I will, btw he got nerfed so bad bc DS had to be cut short bc of some of the creator's family members suffering disease or something like that. But Muzan is country level as well as Gojo as well as Sukuna.
@@odin.... Daki is city block, Gyutaro destroyed all the red district in one attack, Gyokko is stronger than Gyutaro, Muichiro Tokito humilliated Gyokko, Muichiro Tokito was humilliated by Kokushibo and Kokushibo is still weaker than nerfed Muzan, who is only 20% of his full power, does that help?
@@odin.... Muzan lacks the AP yo destroys countrys, but he can easily go on a faur 1v1 against characters that are considered nation level, btw Sukuna is also lacks the ap to destroy a country in 1 attack, he can destroy whole citys but not countrys, but he could take over countrys if he wanted to, as well as gojo as well as muzan.
Honestly, at first I was lost on the electromagnetic radiation/wave part, but rereading the chapter yeah, his vaporizing ability did mention that. As for how Sukuna could kill Muzan I guess he would just chop him up, and eat him. That would actually help Sukuna, he could turn all of humanity into hybrids of curses, and demons, there wouldn’t be any more weaklings, instead it would be a world filled with immortal op beings, constantly improving, but I guess without humans to eat, and create curse energy, they would probably still be mortal, but with longer lives, and op healing.
@@miceatah9359 Sukuna’s somebody that will toy around, and use it until he had his fun to use it or he will use it as a finisher, like how he used it against Mahoraga. Also if Muzan’s blood hits Sukuna, it would infect him, letting Sukuna feel the boost in power becoming a demon would give him, and would just try to eat Muzan for the insane boost.
1) sukuna mentioned that taking purple would be fatal to him which would mean that he wouldn't be able even to fight let alone using cleave after getting hit by purple. 2) low on output, CE, RCT and badly injured means that he wouldn't be able to fight efficiently anymore and yet he was able to do an asspull moment to cut through space 3) GOJO recovered his output, CE, RCT in chapter 235 which would mean he could finish sukuna at that moment. Furthermore it shows that GOJO was already winning but chapter 236 suddenly cut to him getting off screen and a dumb explanation of sukuna being able to cut through the world. 🤣 4) GOJO has the highest potential than any of the jujutsu sorcerers and was constantly hyped up as the strongest sorcerer. You can't just seal him and unseal him without letting him contribute to the plot with little to no impact and then let him die it's random. What happened to the character who calls Sukuna a challenger? Giving him off screen death and having him glazing over sukuna is also completely disrespectful and out of character. Maybe if sukuna had used his true CT and full power And perhaps if gojo saved megumi and gave sukuna permanent damage I wouldn't complain. But GEGE had to pull out a random ass pull moment to power up sukuna. In short, GOJO death is embarrassing and disrespectful. 5) GOJO did absolutely nothing. Can't save megumi, cant kill sukuna, can't bury geto, no plan against kenjaku and barely have any interactions with yuji and gang after unseal. What's the point of unsealing gojo then? 6) What's stopping sukuna from copying infinity now if he can learn cutting space from his dad? The main cast would stand no chance against him. Cutting space is just stupid plot armor plot convenience ass pull moment 🤡 In short, sukuna = king of plot and fraud KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT FRAUDKUNA FAN
@@jamesbond-cx2uh dude my comment was just about a CT that the video mentioned, and Sukuna eating Muzan. Why are you talking about the Gojo vs Sukuna fight, mentioning things that have nothing to do with Muzan. I’m against the win Sukuna had, but I’m not going to just throw a fit about it, on vs battles that have nothing to do with the Gojo vs Sukuna fight.
For anyone saying fraudjo Sukuna straight up saying he couldn’t get past infinity without mahoragas adaptation: “it transmuted it’s own cursed energy in order to neutralize and nullify your invulnerability. That was something I could not do so I waited. I waited until I could obtain an adaptation that could match your infinity.” Sukuna admitted gojo is stronger than him💀
he didn't admit anything. he literally straight up said mahoraga was just a setup to expand his target's reach which would automatically invalidate gojo's infinity.
Sukuna world bisecting slash invalidating all defensive abilities by just cutting though the 3rd dimension as we know it: (Works almost the same as go/jo hollow purple that deletes matter from existance)
I like to imagine what would happen if the Demon Moons and Muzan actually did exist in JJK as special grade cursed objects. Like the lower ranks being weaker and more akin to semi-first/first grades cursed objects all end up being destroyed by sorcerers over the course of centuries, but the essence of each Upper Rank and Muzan would be special grade cursed objects and thus indestructible. I get Demon Slayer verse is kinda fodder compared to most verses, so they'd have to be scaled in stronger than they are in their verse to keep it fair.
@@kalilasqary4090 No. Cursed objects basically hold the soul of a curse user, and when a cursed object is consumed it overwrites the consciousness and (I believe soul) with that of the soul residing within the cursed object.
there's a lot of misinformation in the video, mainly about sukuna's abilities and it's properties, and pertaining to the properties when against Gojo. at that point, it was definitely durability negation but not in the sense of attacking one's soul, but rather the "space" of it's target. the reason why it's the space is that sukuna literally couldn't touch gojo whilst he had his infinity active. during the fight gojo was switching his infinity on and off as a means of mixup and variation. an in verse comparison would be the of 2 cursed tools. Maki's soul split katana "Mai" and Toji's Inverted spear of heaven. The slash that ended Gojo was more similar to the Toji's ISoH, which ignored all cursed techniques, quite frankly just disabling it in the case of Satoru Gojo. As a matter of fact, it was even more busted as it just cut the "space" that Satoru Gojo's body parts existed in. The first example we saw was when Sukuna cut off Gojo's arm whilst his Infinity was active, and the shocked look that Gojo had on his face when his arm came off. Now I'm not saying that Sukuna isn't capable of doing damage to the soul, but saying that he straight up did without any scans saying so is just spreading blatant misinformation. As of right now we haven't seen him be able to outright damage the soul. but yea, sukuna still stomps, think we all knew that. anyone with a a modicum of brain matter would know that this fight just isn't fair. tl;dr: sukuna cuts the space around go/jo, not soul (that we currently know of), letting us each get a half of him.
Why tf do ppl keep writing one piece level of long stories about this debate why is someone taking so much time out of their day to write all this bruh😢
I just want to say this we only had one instance where we had a chance to see muzan fight and he was poisoned and weakened by considerable amount but even with that he would still get tossed by sukuna.
@@nooseloverr i was talking about pre gojo fight sukana. for post, its pretty much over. just so you know muzan was nerfed in 4 diffrent ways. 1 a medicine that turns him into a human, weakening his powers 2 a poison that ages him 3000 years per hour 3. a poison that prevents him from splitting his body into pieces 4. a poison that destroys his cells. and dispite all this his body was still fighting the poisons effects while he was talking on all of the demonslayers. people really undersell how busted that guy is
@@kenonerboy yeah, while i'm pretty sure Sukuna would still win, i doubt he could actually kill Muzan, since it's stated that even with those poisons, his body regenerated the instant he was cut
finger bearer wins or stalemate, curses are non corporeal and invulnerable to physical attacks. One would need non-physical-interaction or soul manipulation to interact with cursed spirits.
@@For56Lgbtq01 not a rule or a law + thats not how it works, only the similar aspects of a power system get equalized, for example: spiritual pressure and idle transfiguration would just be soul manipulation kamehameha and bijuu bombs would be energy projection hakai and darkseids omega beams would be existence erasure verse equalization reasonably equates similar abilities from 2 differing power systems to make interaction between 2 characters from seperate verses possible, it doesnt mean giving characters that dont have certain abilities the necessary abilities to win a battle, thats like me giving a regular human with no special powers the ability to interact with non physical beings because i want them to win a fight against a ghost. Thats not equalizing anything, that would just be me giving benefits to one side unfairly.
@@CursedValortbf that can go both ways. We’ve yet to see sukunas full arsenal of powers. The power gap between the two will only get bigger as the manga continues
@@UnofficiallyRed28momentoThen you have the same characters in the manga getting hit by bullets and sonic screams , it’s just inconsistent that demon slayer characters are lightning timers when the attacks they are hit with aren’t even real lightning and have never been stated to be the speed of actual lightning
@@therussiancowboy2929 Yeah low tiers get hit by bullets. I am talking about the mid to high tiers like Hakari who actually dodge real lightning. It is not an outlier since these guys have NOTHING to do with the mfs getting hit by bullets. They're not relative, especially with all the gaps in speed shown between nearly every person.
@@therussiancowboy2929 keep in mind Yuji when he does get hit by Sonic screams was the Yuji before his multiple amps throughout Shibuya Riko has always been fodder I don't think this is debatable And even the other bullets in question actually get caught in point blank range (like maki who catches a point blank rubber bullet enhanced with Cursed Energy) so realistically all you're proving is that pre Shibuya jjk was fodder (which I agree with)
although i do believe sakuna absolutely destroys muzan. i don't think sakuna is light speed nor planetary cuz for 1 it was already explained sakuna can predict certain attacks because of a spark before a technique and the whole planetary thing i believe is referring to him being able to kill everyone or change the very world as we know it. gojo has never been shown with a ability to destroy the world but yuki has, yet she would lose to gojo. i think tht goes to show that its about the ability and hax.
When he was first talking about speed I was ready to pull out the lightning speed argument but then looked up em waves and realized the massive difference before he even explained it. The only way I could see Muzan winning is if he cuts Sukuna on accident and delivers some of his blood, since his blood destroys cells it might have a chance. This only works however if Sukuna is dumb and doesn’t use reverse curse technique. It also just might not affect him since the necrotic blood from the curse womb brothers didn’t. The blood could maybe turn Sukuna into a demon which would give him some weaknesses and would just instant kill him if Muzan died. That is again assuming that the blood works. Overall Sukuna destroys Muzan.
@@Tyler-bf7em I mentioned this, Muzan’s blood is a bit unusual so I wasn’t sure if it would fall under that category. In any case read the whole thing carefully before making a comment.
@@Tyler-bf7em Yeah but then again Muzan's Poison effect isn't really poison as it destroys the cell of the body an doesn't work like a proper illness/poison should. But seeing as Sukuna is a Curse and not a human adding onto that with Reverse Curse Energy, he'll be perfectly fine.
[Muzan] I think people forgot how OP Muzan was. muzan was severely weakened when we saw him in his full power. muzan isn't a shitty 1000-year-old poorly written character. knowing how Muzan's prepared to kill and decides to kill what's useless for him just shows how long he's been alive. muzan developed tons and tons of shit, just to survive any attacks, he didn't even make Nakime his upper moon until Hantengu died because of Nakime's op blood demon art. muzan's regenerative power is also op, not to mention he possesses infinite stamina as a demon. that's why only the sun could kill Muzan or Yoriichi (Don't Consider Yoriichi A Human) who happens to be an anomaly who's not just skilled, yoriichi was also able to inflict scars that were still burning after Muzan's wound healed. it took Muzan hundreds of years to close up the wounds Yoriichi inflicted on him. that's the only way muzan was defeated!! any idea why Muzan confidently showed up after learning the demon slayer's corps'location despite fearing death? cuz' he knew he's invincible until sunrise and he got name! muzan's regenerative power is far more superior than of gojo satoru. [Sukuna] Suzan doesn't have any curse energy in his body, so sukuna would effortlessly just cut off all his brains instantaneously and kill him off using cleeve, or just straight up opening his domain expansion and strengthening its effect by reducing its range. muzan doesn't stand a chance against sukuna. sukuna possess twice the amount yuta has (curse energy) not to mention yuta's curse energy is considered boundless cuz'of how big the amount he has. if gojo can spam nuclear explosion level unlimited purple, sukuna on the other hand could create a domain expansion size of an entire country if not continent. anyone who possess curse energy would most likely survive but those who does not would probably gets killed immediately because of sukuna's cleeve effect.
Sukuna's Cleave and dismantle on domain expansion also turned an entire city into literal DUST, The amount and precision and numbers of slashes that are required to turn an entire city to dust is insanity and something that Muzan wouldn't even survive for a minute.
@@lelouchvibritannia1662 muzan's regenerative power is stronger than mahoraga. mahoraga survived sukuna's domain expansion not because he already adapted to it, but because of his innate regenerative ability. muzan should survive longer actually, and based on the manga it took sukuna's domain expansion a lot of time to annihilate the 200 meters range of his domain, not 15,000 meters (the size of shibuya city) I'm not being bias here, just spitting the facts. the reason why gojo only survive sukuna's domain expansion was because it's not dense enough at their first domain clash.
@@erebusdarkness0 Mahoraga already adapted at that point, Even sukuna said that he not only adapted to cleave and dismantle, but to slashing attacks in general itself... He even said that if he hasn't adapted yet, then the cleave from his domain should've ended mahoraga since Mahoraga took dismantle and not cleave but because he already adapted to slashing attacks in general, cleave and dismantle didn't do much to Mahoraga compared to anyone in the domain, that's why sukuna immediately used his fire arrow.
@@IsThatAThaiName mahoraga adapts when the wheel turns. cleeve and dismantle are different types of attack. cleeve is unavoidable, while dismantle is a simple powerful long range slash. cleeve cuts its target depending on toughness and curse energy. mahoraga only adapted to sukuna's dismantle, a simple slashing attack. mahoraga gains the ability to see and deflect sukuna's dismantle after finishing the adaptation. when sukuna opened his domain mahoraga hasn't adapted to both yet that's why he's still vulnerable to malevolent shrine. if mahoraga already adapted to both, he wouldn't be affected at all. get it?
Sukana vs yoirichi would be alot better debate. But even then sukana would body yoirichi lmao which shows he would absolutely annihilate muzan because yoirichi is stronger than muzan
It is a better “debate” true but Sukuna vs muzan is far more thematic which I care about a lot more. I try to think about the flavour of a fight the most when I talk about it.
Sukuna vs yorichii is even less of a debate, atleast muzan has ridiculos healing. Yorichii is human, one domain and he's dust, one lighnting strike he's dead, sukuna using dismantle or cleave cuts him in half, and he prob cant even cut sukuna cause of cursed energy reinforcement, even if he did sukuna could rct as long as he dodges an attack to the head. Yorichii literally has no chance
@@GeoX242 if u remove sukuna's lightspeed feat then it'll be pretty feasable glazing yoruchi to 1/6 of lightspeed cuz of how much times he slashes muzan in a few seconds
@@flappyflap2693 sukuna isnt lightspeed and yoriichii DEF isnt 1/6 the speed of light. Even if he was he cant dodge domain expansion because of the sure hit so it doesnt even matter
@@GeoX242 do the math on how fast you have to be to slash 1800 times in a second, you'll see he's at least 1/6 of the speed of light, as for sukuna the dude is literally lightspeed due to the fact he dodged a literal lightspeed shockwave point blank the evidence is right there gege probably didn't intend for him to be that fast though
I know it won't help Muzan's case in winning the fight, but it is worth noting that he was dodging beyond lightning speed attacks while aging a thousand years a second from Tamayo's poison as well as being entirely outnumbered and being attacked by people who are even faster than Zenitsu. Obviously he still doesn't beat Sukuna, but I think it's impressive all the same honestly
Very illiterate excuses, I don't know why people at still stupid enough to compare the SOL in fiction to the SOL in real life, that's completely stupid.
Ngl, that sounds interesting. But to be fair, the only three, who could maybe, actually do shit are douma (because of his ice powers which it was shown, that ice is VERY effective against maki) gyutaro because of his, poison sickles (btw, gyutaro is an maybe) enmu because of the sleep bullshit (which i doubt that it, would even work but it might) but other then these, the rest don't have anything too lethal
@@forskipped900 Well, i said that the others don't have anything too lethal. But yeah, kokushibo would do shit aswell. But, i was talking about the most lethal ones, that could counter heavenly restricted people
Muzan relies on his demons too much. I mean my guy was busy finding a cure so he can walk on the sun, and he was well hidden in the infinity castle. No wonder no one knew what he looked like, because he barely fought lol.
tengens barrier techniques were stated to help in reducing the effect of Yuki's blackhole as well so any barrier would help as well as long as its strong enough. (Also an attack that affects space would just neg the black hole out of existence like sukunas spacial slash).
@samuraibear5102 When Tengen used barriers it made it better, idk how much but it said it helped atleast. Sukunas' space slash should just erase it if that doesn't work tho. Maybe a dismantle would work too since its stated to adjust itself based off the targets cursed energy amount and we know Yuki has less cursed energy than Sukuna so that might also be an option.
if improved cleave cut right through it it'd either just make two blackholes which would just collide and create an extremely huge explosion that'll wipe out a majority if not all of the solar system judging by the size, or it would destroy it and all that mass spilling out would also just. explode, but all that mass is ejected instead of coalescing back together, that's how i see it
9:50 correction here, Muzan isn't just faster than lightning, Misturi who was the first Hashira to fall on their battle was able to block and Slash multiple lightnings falling from the Sky and she wasn't even able to percieve anything Muzan was doing while he had to focus on the other Hashiras she also wasn't able to see or feel while fighting. Then if we're going to talk about his moves, we have to talk about the one thing Demons Slayer characters in general have against most Manga characters wich is their senses, at the start of the series Tanjiro was able to smell and keep track of people across their pocket dimentions (the triple Demon) but as he got stronger, his sense of Smell became better letting him start smelling the best moment to hit his opponents, then developed the skill to smell their next move, to hide his own literal soul from his opponent in order to guarantee the next attack against an opponent who could feel his next attack, albeit Tanjiro having his senses be several times worse than Muzans by the time he did that. I'm not saying he's 50/50 against Sukuna or that he's close to Sukuna in power but he still has his own habilities and feats that can actually compare like how his regeneration makes any wound he recieves to be completely obsolete because he does it faster than a lot of characters, how his entire body can be used as a poisonous mouth wich can rip off pieces from the ground in all directions (yes he does that by breathing and can even eat glass and concrete) or just hide his own attacks from his opponents senses on purpose in order for them to hit while also hiding his abilities until Muzan knows they're gonna hit (he did it to Mitsuri). With how both characters have ways to kill and hit each other here, i would say it's like a 8/2 on this fight in favor of Sukuna because he is still faster and can spam his deadliest attacks against Muzan who has to charge up his seizure beams and doesn't have an actual way to counter Sukuna when he attacks
Sukuna wins purely on the basis that his writing as a character is a million times better than the bollocks that is Demon Slayer. Demon Slayer has about 3 good characters and Muzan is definitely not one of them.
Demon slayer have whole different power system and ds dont need more. And Jjs litteraly have only 3 good write chaarcters : Nanamin , Mahito and Yuji. all the rest are not disclosed at all
we had already done that black flash happens in 1 microsecond which it takes a bolt of lightning 30 microseconds to hit the ground making their reaction speed 30 times faster than lightning which moves at 270,000 MPH times that by 30 and you get 8,100,000 MPH as a reaction speed which is way faster than mach 3 which is only 2300 MPH and someone like Hakari can just dodge lightning and sukuna and gojo blitz him without trying.
Great video bro ❤❤❤ But the only problem is that the power levels are too high, though it doesn't really effect the fight much, its a bit overrated For speed : sukuna and muzan are both barely light speed (they weren't able to dodge slower attack) For deffense : muzan is like city block level while sukuna is a nation level (kenjaku had anti gravity technique so he had the perfect counter for yuki but sukuna survived hollow void whichis said to be stronger the the strongest nukes) For offence : muzan is also like city level (and that's with glazing him) but sukuna is like nation level (his normal ct attacks aren't soul targetting as mahito touched sukuna's soul and entered his inner domain and so sukuna saw mahito's soul but other then that, world cutting slash just ignores all durability and deffence and just cuts the person up while the normal ct is city level since we can see how sukuna is able to destroy building easily with one of them and then there is the domain expansion, which is perfectly explained in the video) Stamina : muzan has infinite amount (it was said that demons have infinite stamina) while sukuna could probably have infinite (not because of cursed energy but because of Reversed cursed energy or positive energy as sukuna has insane amounts of cursed energy and he can heal himself using reverse [cursed energy has a negative value and negative × negative = positive so yh] and with it he can heal any injury or fatigue he has) I'll stop here as there is a lot more to cover But the result stays the same Sukuna obliterates muzan either with domain expansion or world cutting slash Note : sukuna nerfed himself as he made a binding vow where he sacrificed the ability to use world cutting slash freely and will have to use incantations and hand signs to be able to send 1 world cutting slash that gojo can't dodge (gojo can see sukuna's technique and the world cutting slash) - sukuna also has open divine flame or open furnace (same thing different translations, its name in japanese is kamino) which he can use in his domain or outside it to send a fire arrow that will burn anything to ashes - sukuna's true form also is op as he has 2 mouths, he can breeth threw one and do incantations with other infinitely, and four arms, he can fight with 2 and do hand signs with the others (incantations and handsings buff the attacks of cursed techniques, basecally every technighe we see in the anime is like 50% of its true power, but with incantations and hand signs its basecally 100% so yh poor muzan man)
This video glazes the shit out of Sukuna to a point that it isn’t even Sukuna being talked about. Every feat and ability description in this video has a counter point that completely destroys the feat provided. Sukuna is not faster than light, not even remotely close, Sukuna’s domain is also not killing peak muzan since we see very clearly that it doesn’t just erase opponents
No. Yuki didn't immediately summon a black hole. She gradually raised her mass up to the point it would reach a black hole. So kenjaky reacting doesn't mean he has light speed reaction time.
@hikolfakeholoki6492 idk know the specifics if a black hole. R u saying that's physics wise it shouldn't be possible fir something to reach a black hole? If not, and ur saying shevwas already at a black hole, than my point was that it didn't happen instantly. She raised her lvl to that point gradually so during tge time she wasn't at the lvl of a black hole, kenjaku had plenty of time to react that doesn't correlate to light speed.
@@hikolfakeholoki6492 How so? Gravity is a spectrum. Only when it reaches a certain number can a celestial mass be called a black hole. That standard is when the aceleration of gravity is so strong that light itself can't escape. How did he contradict himself? He's right.
When he said it wasn’t fair he damn ment it. Muzan’s deadly wipe like tentacles put his blood in who ever it attacks and instead of turning them into demons it acts as a poison that can kill people, but Sakura is immune to those and his dummy stupid over powered regen gets bypassed, like what? Yeah safe to say muzan gets blitzed.
all the people arguing over power and shi in the comments like damn the video is just for fun and reality check: nobody actually gives an f if a verse is stronger than another verse lmao
@@fuffythegreat blud sukuna just have to play with muzan till sunrise like a child😂.... And domain expansion can destroy every cell of body How does body can be regenerate without cells You surely skipped science classes😂
blud 200% hollow purple destroyed whole city and purple negates durability but still sukuna survive that and muzan who got defeated by bunch of human with swords🤡 and whose durability is village level, it's just that he can regenerate😂
@@fuffythegreat blud even yoorichi is not faster than light dumb mid slayer fan😂 If Yoriichi is 1000 times faster than the speed of sound, he'd have destroyed ALL pieces of Muzan in less than a single second, because that's like moving at 70000 mph, or higher. Muzan splitted himself in 1800 pieces, and for "few seconds Yoriichi destroyed 1500 of them".
Enjoyed the video a lot! While watching i noticed you'd said something about kashimos technique being able to manifest "any phenomenon" might be a mistranslation because from how other translations have stated it that its any phenomenon electricity can produce. And while I still think sumuna dogwalks that mf muzan I do not think sukuna is nowhere near light speed, def a lightning timer but if kashimo was throwing out light speed attacks and sukuna was dodging them then even in base sukuna should have never once gotten hit by gojo
@@Reed.. I'm pretty sure its not existence erasure, but seeing as blue pulls, red pushes, i think it's just pulling your atoms apart while pushing them together. I don't know what that does to atoms, but i imagine it turns atoms into like, the equivalent of dust to atoms idk what that is but that's my guess
@@Edorec my interpretation of how hollow purple works is that by creating imaginary mass the laws of the universe does not know what the fuck its supposed to do with the hollow purple and just decides to delete anything it touches
@@Generic_username69Hollow purple can be tnaked bc it s not black hole. Hollow purple push and at the same time pull. But if you can tank strengh of pull and strength of push = you can tank Hollow purple.
Gojo is literally a God compared to the demon slayer verse And sukuna boxed him for like an hour and manejed to win by adapting to his completely busted barrier and killed him. Sukuna would erase him entirely and muzan does not even have anything to hurt sukuna. Gojo had existence erasing nukes that were supercharger at 200% of his already godlike power and sukuna ate that shit only bringing him to deaths door due to the leangth and intensity of the battle before hand.
Didn't each that shit!! rather used Megumi's soul as a shield, Mahoraga as a perfect adapting machine and blue print to a space cutting technique........🗿🥶 But he's a fraud
@@g1lbert68He did ate the first Purple, which was at 200% potency. lol. And even exhausted he survived the last maximum purple without becoming a half.
Sukuna only beat gojo because he used mahoraga to adapt and counter gojos abilities and was then able to use those abilities himself after seeing them even after gojo took out mahoraga. I’d be interested to see how prime Sukuna from 1000 years ago would have done against gojo in a straight 1 v 1
would probably still beat him, he can do hand signs and chants to amplify his domain expansion (that deactivates gojos infinity) and he has 4 arms and his body is stronger than megumis so he would absolutely destroy him on a fist fight with domain amplification let alone him hsving probably the best rct in the series gojo stands no chance lmfao)
@@thetubersto4369u clearly didn't read the manga after all sukuna could have end gojo early on the moment he couldn't open a domain anymore sukuna could have transformed into his 1000 years form but he didn't lol
Sukuna did keep up with gojo but if wasn't with his teleportation because he couldn't use it. But yes I understand what you mean it was a fight of the strongest
Gojo used TP many times when he h2h Sukuna, I'm not saying that he's slower or faster, it is arguable, but from what I saw Gojo isn't fast, and he overused his TP capabilities, we will witness it in animation, but Gojo fought Sukuna the same way as they first time meet, GOJO isn't as fast as Sukuna he to avoid Sukunas punches TP a lot during fight, just read it again, the moments when Sukuna is trying to punch him and Gojo is just below him he to it's like in anime when Gojo from nowhere appeared behind Sukuna, you can't call something fast if it doesn't move at all lol
@@ThereIsOnlyOneRandom lot of gojo combat and keeping up with sukuna was not teleportation. He didn't even use it at all in their fight, cause with the domain expansions he couldn't..to say gojo isn't fast when he got the better of sukuna in hand to hand bouts is crazy
@@ThereIsOnlyOneRandomI understand what you are saying. But gojo would definetly be able to fight without tp. Its just that tp puts him in better positions instead of dodging and taking angles. It takes to much effort to get behind your apponent, with very good ones its almost impossible. Imagine you can just tp behind them
Sukuna can see the "sparks" before kashimo dishes the attack, cause kashimo isn't Ftl, so kashimo landing a hit vs sukuna reacting to the blast would just mean It's a normal attack, and it's anime, every anime has characters dodging in mid air, and if sukuna had planetary durability, he would face tank anything gojo does, yet gojo is bare minimum multi city block level, and Sukunas enclosed domain wouldnt work since you need CE to even be detected in it, and his open domain would work but the sure hit affect wouldnt be applied without ce, yes sukuna still wins, but hes not ftl or has planetary dura
I agree that sukuna isn't ftl. He's 2× lightning speed at least for being able to blitz kashimo. But he does have planetary lvl durability and u can scale gojo to planetary as well. Yukis black hole could destroy the planet. Kenjaku used a similar method to domain amplification to survive. Domain amplification only works if the characters aren't too far apart in power, shown through gojo and the disaster curses. So you'd have to say kenjaku was somewhere near tgat lvl. Around multi continental. Both gojo and 15f sukuna r both implied to be able to kill kenjaku easily, so they should have higher ap than yukis black hole. And they should no doubt tank more than kenkaku and survive the black hole as well. Thus means they have planetary lvl ap and durability. Sukunas domain would work because it's an aoe move. He doesn't need to detect muzan.
It's not because of the barrier being open that he's able to use dismantle on CE-less objects. Sukuna is just able to do it. I agree he's not ftl or planetary though
thank god someone used the em waves feats and not using the mach 3 feats on sukuna when almost the entirety of jjk chars are genuinely more weaker and sukuna would neg diff almost all of them too
@@idkwhattoputherelol-c1d Nah bro the joke was that he's so eternally pissed off for no reason that his mere presence would up cursed spirit spawnrates
Interesting matchup. In terms of speed, both sre actually pretty damn fast. Both have ftl scaling. Sukuna as he could dodge Electromagnetic waves in his half dead state and Muzan because he was able to preception blitz Mitsuri in his drugged state and mitsuri could casually react and intercept lightning attacks. I did give it to muzan as prime muzan is yoroichi fight because post yoroichi fight muzan had the scars which nerfed him. And the fact muzan had to be drugged by literally 4 drugs which aged him and made his slower etc, says volume. And also due to the fact that Muzan was getting jumped by multiple hashiras which again would hinder him from traveling at full speed. Muzan barely edges out speed. In terms of strength, sukuna absolutely stomps, he has planetary scaling via yukis blackhole. Muzan cracks city level max. In terms of durability, it goes to sukuna obviously In terms of regeneration capabilities, both are good in different departments. Sukuna has cellular healing and can heal limbs but loses healing output fast. Muzan doesn't have cellular healing but can practically heal any part of his body with better efficiency than sukuna. In terms of hax, it goes to sukuna shouldn't be a debate. Winner: Muzans poison is his only way of harming sukuna however sukuna has RCT which pretty much negates the poison. And sukuna can split his soul into different parts and can Reincarnate if he needs to. On the other hand, i don't think malevolent shrine can finish of muzan as muzan would survive either way. However sukunas space Dismantle is more than enough to neg muzan as the Regeneration would be overpowered. Since sukuna cuts space, he also cuts everything which exists in the space, so he js pretty much cutting the atoms and everything which compose the space, since yoroichi could overpower muzans regen with his cellular AP, then sukuna easily can too with his space Dismantle. Muzans only saving grace is his speed advantage. Sukuna should mid diff muzan, the reason it isn't low diff is because of the speed advantage of muzan. However either way, muzan has literally zero wincons. Sukuna stomps.
How tf is muzan FTL? By blitzing a character able to dodge lighting attacks with lighting being on average 1/3 lightspeed. That is not lightspeed. That is just hypersonic.
@@vengefulgrape7512 not even blitzing but preception blitzing. You need to be many magnitudes faster in running speed along if you are blitzing someone at lightning speed. And that was in his drugged state who is massively weaker.
@@ShadeThaArtist Muzan's not survive getting slashes continuously with slashes that turns something to dust, Muzan cannot regen if all his vital organs are hit together all at once, And Cutting space is something Sukuna can do, Muzan would get erased from existence if he get hit by one slash
@@ShadeThaArtistbro shibuya arc he had 15 fingers so wasent at his peak, and he was holding back so much that it wouldnt be a crazy thing to say he was like 75% holding back or more.... Yup if that sukuna can ragdoll muzan, a 20 finger hein era sukuna would just straight up disrespect that mf no dif
@@blub_okyes he can heal that If muzan gets cut by the "cutting space" he can just regen again We saw muzan healing even before a sword finished to cut his neck Is similar to hakari, but faster
Before Ch236, I’d say Muzan wins cuz of his insane regen, hax and greater speed scaling. But now, I think Sukuna is finely chopping him by letting the space cleave do the work, then finishes Demon King Of Pop Sama by baking him at 10000 degree with flame arrow ✨🔥🗿🔥✨
The KNY verse its very weak compared to JJK, the best feats from them are their speed being the mid-high tier characters Massively Hypersonic+ with Multi-City Block to Large Town level
gonna call cap on some of theses wild statements sukuna cannot the destroy the planet. what they meant when they said he could destroy the world was that fact that he could end humanity or the modern world. yuki could destroy the planet but sukuna nor gojo has an ability that can do that. just because this person can do it and the other person is stronger doesn't mean they can do it too unless your going by dragon ball logic.
It’s based off of the fact that we have both statements of them being stronger and their techniques being stronger, I think you might be misunderstanding though, I’m not saying his punch would LITERALLY blow up the planet, just that the potency of it is equal to that. Obviously you have to account for things like DC and range, stuff like that.
@@CursedValorsukuna's range has been caped to multi continental not planetary. Based on what I have seen of both gojo and sukuna their both city level the only reason yuki can destroy the world is due to the fact that she can create a black hole if sukuna had this ability he could destroy the world but he doesn't Im not smart when It comes this power scaling stuff but I got a bellow average understanding of it. I would like to understand your side of thinking more so I can learn how to power scale better but my tiny brain says that gojo and sukuna are city level at full strength. 🤧🤔
@@Animeeditz1982 so by your logic destructive power doesn't necessarily mean stronger in 1v1 fights So theoretically I can kill a magician that can destroy a city by shooting him But I can't destroy the city Yes or No? Your thoughts
@@g1lbert68It depends on your ability's how you kill them doesn't matter. sukuna's greatest feat was destroying a whole city with his domain the reason yuki could destroy the world was because of her ability sukuna has no ability that can do this. let me list down the problems with your logic first all yuta is stronger than yuki so he can destroy earth yes? OK so now we do anybody stronger than yuki can destroy earth yes? and gojo and sukuna are stronger than all of them right? so that means gojo and sukuna can destroy the solar system. congratulations you just broke the jjk scaling system and now nothing makes sense are you happy now? well are ya?
@@Animeeditz1982 so that means YES I can kill a magician that can destroy a city with a knife but I can't literally destroy a city with a knife Edit: that means am stronger but not more destructive so power scaling is strange
It's very rare for a demon slayer characters to be able to survive outside their verse. The demons probably have the highest chance but sukuna vs Muzan would be such a stomp its almost comical. I dont even have to explain why. At the end of the day. Muzan cannot compete. Frankly i dont think he'd win versus some of the HUMANS in jjk.
The only problem with this fight is even is Sukuna is stronger than Muzan can he actually kill him. Sunlight and Nichirin swords are about the only thing that affects demon.
Sukuna showed that his stamina is insane, so he can easily stale Muzan long enough to sun come up. Humans who can breath were able to do it, so Sukuna can do it too Also, Sukuna tanked hollow purple twice, no attack from Muzan comes even close to such AP level
Yes muzan almost died to yochiro when all of his hearts and organs were cut at basically the same time Sukuna could replicate that but even better due to dismantle basically being exactly that but stronger because it actually all hits at once instead of essentially at once(but this doesn't even really matter because he could just use a the fire arrow to melt even his bones to ash)
I mean, to be fair, we haven't really seen Muzan's peak power yet since he was literally a million old before he realized that he was poisoned. So when he decided to finally go all out, that wasn't really his original "All out", but a weakened one compared to his previous peak form.
Sukuna is an actual warrior that revels in combat, and follows the ideal of absolute power, and constantly fought against people relative to him, that could even kill him.
Muzan is a coward that really avoids combat and relies on brute strength. Hes a big fish in a small pond.
well guess who let mahoraga do everything for him against gojo?
@@kenankhaled2280 he is still right tho,tbh sukuna could have figured it out how to bypass infinity but it would be much slower ,if he didnt had mahoraga in the first place the fight wouldnt have happened,sukuna knew mahoraga was gonna adapt gojos infinity and show him how to bypass it.if he didnt had 10 shadows he def would not pick a fight with gojo and observe him far away or use his minions or people to test how to bypass infinity or how it works
@@kenankhaled2280does not matter sukuna wins no mater what I hat the way he won and how gege wrote it but he was gonna win no matter what
@@MoNaeto stop yapping he could have never bypassed infinity without mahoraga
@@cipher5984 all mahoraga did was figure it out for him. It’s not like mahoraga was used to kill Gojo. It was just used to figure out a way that sakuna could bypass infinity. Plus, he still had a full restore so he could use his domain while Gojo couldn’t and that’s a clap. The only real concern is getting clapped after killing Gojo, but I bet he also has more techniques he can use.
So you’re telling me the most OP character from a stronger verse is more powerful than the most OP character in a weak verse?
Damn, who coulda thought
JJK verse ain't that op, just Muzan sucks.
@@grimmtherapistfact, jjk is mid power verse, and ds Isn’t that weak like u all saying. It’s a little weaker than jjk
little? Delusional @@azell1220
@@azell1220 "Little weaker". We using the argument that demons can only be killed by the sun or nichirin blade? Cus even then Gojo negs both Muzan and Yoriichi.
@@strawhatkirbae6717 idiot? Gojo can defeat yoriichi, but muzan, nah bro☠️
Sukuna is willing to learn adapt and evolve his abilities, techniques, and himself and has a deep understanding of himself from an enlightened level despite essentially being pure evil, he accepts that hes pure evil and lives how he wants. He is an actual villain, and a force.
Muzan was never really a character, hes best described as a thing, thats always hungry and to be honest i dont even think he knows himself. Despite both muzan and sukuna living 1000 years Muzan hasnt actually lived, hes always grouchy, in a bad mood and ready to kill his subordinates for any reason, hes only ever been surviving for 1000 years and part of that can be attributed to yorichi putting his ass in his place, but rather than learn and evolve from this experience hes scared shitless and just decides to hide for centuries. Its also worth pointing out that Muzan DOES have a blood demon art and we've only ever seen it ONCE and never again afterwarda he just abuses his speed, power, and body.
Personally between the two I do think Sukuna would win not from pure strength but from intelligence and understanding, Muzan doesnt do a lot of work himself and delegates it to others to do and achieve for him, one big factor is the sun he waits for someone else to conquer it before going to reap the rewards from Nezuko. Sukuna on the other hand is able to quickly pick up on ideas, strategies, and techniques, sure he has been taught some techniques like soul swaping from Kenjaku but hes more than capable of learning such things himself, but aware that it will take a while.
Muzan would mostly abuse his demon body, physical speed, and strength, and this would impress Sukuna to a degree but overtime he may figure out that an elongated battle against muzan would be too taxing as he never loses staminia and may just resort in popping his domain expansion to end the fight quickly or toy with muzan until sun rise and force his ass to bake.
Edit: In the demon slayer universe I personally believe Kokushibou and/or Akaza would be a better fit to fight Sukuna considering they'd make his time fighting them worth while unlike Muzan.
Considering how hedonistic sukuna is I'm pretty sure he'd get bored of waiting for sunrise and just eat him outright to find out what a demon tastes like lol, even if he becomes a demon he would probably be able to tank sunlight damage with RCT healing himself until his body gained a resistance to sunlight
@@mep15067 the thing is the reason why muzan never conquered the sun in 1000 years is because he's a fucking dumbass, he'd constantly make enemies by turning family members into demons putting the family against muzan despite him trying to be sneaky. He also killed multiple humans that knew about the blue spider lily for no reason, like tanjiros mom, he doesn't even bother asking any of them about Intel about it, even knowing it only blooms in the day is crucial information yet even that wasn't deduced by muzan, telling the twelve kizuki to just "look for it".
Sukuna kills sometimes for no reason but he is by far less trigger happy than muzan, smarter and knows when to first collect Intel before acting. Muzan, when learning about nezuko conquering the sun, doesn't secure his win condition and the first thing he does is walk into a fucking trap by the demon slayers. He should've spent that time planning how he should absorb nezuko and where she is securing his win condition yet he spent nearly two arcs battling an almost fruitless battle against the demon slayers with nezuko being minutes away from being cured and losing his win con, had he won the battle he would still be back at square one since nezuko had been turned back into a human, sure he could try turning her back but tamayo's poison would still be potent within nezuko not to mention she might just flee the country or die.
Give Sukuna muzans abilities, blood, and hax he'd probably figure out everything behind the blue spider lily in less than a century. He's smart and would've actually stayed hidden and wouldn't just make a shit ton of demons and enemies as well. Once he conquers the sun it's old Sukuna back but now he's unkillable and has infinite stamina, it's just ggs as that point.
why would he need the sun when his domain cuts everything to absolutely nothing ☠️
@@somaloll Because it's funny to kill him with the thing he's still scared of
Sukuna is pure black air energy. Madara done right
"Try dodging something in mid-air"
Sukuna can. He doesn't need the ground, he can leap off of the air.
Maki did lol
Maki, and toji both did, sukuna can too lmao
@@cody14161I don't recall this, not doubting you just probably me being stupid, but can you tell me where?
Todo noted Sukuna can dodge in the air
The way he literally did thus in the manga 😂😂😂😂
Whoever said "Muzan vs Sukuna" Really must have had something against muzan or sum.
So basically it’s Sukuna vs Jogo all over again. Sukuna’s roasts might be enough too put Muzan down.
Actually it is Sukuna vs Finger Bearer
@@enlilus2093 20F Heian Era Body + 10S Sukuna vs Nerfed Finger Bearer.
@@enlilus2093in the world of jjk reversed cursed technique takes a lot out of the sorcerer, demons do it all the time without problem and almost instantaneously idk what you on about
@@worms8703assuming muzan does any major DMG to sukuna for him to be drained by using rct lol
@@worms8703 rct is a tecnique, regeneration is a racial benefit
Man, this is like comparing New Yugioh to Old Yugioh lol.
My man Sukuna out here reading out his 10 paragraphs of reality-bending feats, and then there's Muzan who's like: "uh, i have demon virus and uh... Tentacles! Yeahhhh, veryyy sharp tentacles, heh, yeah, be afraid. Of my tentacles."
I wouod be afraid of tentacles in anime... If you know what i mean
@@idkwhattoputherelol-c1d Cultured. 😏
New yu-gi-oh isn't even yu-gi-oh anymore. its literally short stories on a card with a picture.
@@idkwhattoputherelol-c1d SUS
SUS
SUS
Muzan afterwards: throughout the heavens and the earth, I alone am the cooked one 💀
“I alone am the well done one” -Cowzan
the medium rare one
Raw
The extraordinary one
“Through out the stoves and furnaces, i alone am the over-cooked one”
Virgin Muzan : Ran away from the only being able to beat him and hide for centuries in fear that somebody is able to kill him.
Chad Sukuna🗿: dominate the strongest era of sorcerer risk his life to reincarnate in other Era just bc he enjoy life never afraid of smoke
Fraudzan vs goatkuna and goatjo be like: it’s show time 😎
@@jaidentavira4062yeah we see what happened at the end😂😂
At least they can agree on one thing: all those regular humans shouldn't throw away their lives trying to kill them, they should instead just live their little, short lives elsewhere.
you also forgot that muzan stupidly killed his Lower Moons just because one failed doing nothing but existing and that Muzan could have killed Tanjiro from the first time they met and would have managed to kill every Demon Slayer
Jogoat solos
People don’t even realize that muzan is the real fraud. Sukuna at least has the power to back up his strength and he proved himself as the king curses. Muzan literally spent all his years hiding from a the strongest slayer and literally had PTSD so bad that his own cells still remembered him getting washed. At least the guy that sukuna was fighting was actually the strongest sorcerer. muzan was literally getting jumped by some orphans, an emo, a blind man, bakugo 2.0, a e girl and a snake boy. He calls himself the strongest demon but he gets crippled by a cat! 😂
I like how you called Inosuke Bakugo 2.0 because that's what he is
funniest shit i read today
@@divine1ne564 I think by bakugo 2.0 I think he meant sanemi shinazugaya
Y’all seem to forget that the only reason they even had a chance of winning was because he was poisoned and he was on a timer unlike Sukuna
Muzan: *breathes*
Sukuna: with this sacred treasure i summon...
Honestly? Sukuna w/ the Ten Shadows doesn't have to fight. He can just summon 1 rabbit and let it stomp Muzan. Muzan is so fodder.
ngl i hate sukuna but even i know that muzan gets ko'ed neg diff even without mahoraga
@@AR15ORIGINAL muzan would be a breeding cage for the rabbits.
*megumi
Mf legit turned into Megumi- Oh wait, he did....
virgin muzan - runing away from a human who could kill him and getting PTSD just by seeing his ear ring 💀 couldn't even beat 9 kids who just beat him by breathing
VS
Chad sukuna who fucked whole heian era which was golden age of jujutsu then travelling to modern era just to have smoke with strongest of modern era and killing the strongest of edo era too 💀
The battle of the fraudulent ones
I only see one fraudulent one and it ain’t Sukuna lol, can’t call him a fraud when he is literally using his smarts to get the win. Muzan however is a dumbass from beginning to end. We honestly need to end the narrative of Sukuna being a fraud…it’s extremely played out and got really old, just enjoy the narrative and a villain being a villain.
Keep coping tho
Stop the cope bruh
Real
The Divided One ☝️
Sukuna: Gege, give me some glazing. This is base Muzan we're up against.
XD
ngl im curious what 20 finger Sukuna with no mahoraga vs Gojo not holding back (he was holding back to avoid mahoraga adapting) would look like cuz even gojo said he wasnt giving the fight his all
@@deb5996 i meant gojo said sukuna wasnt giving the fight his all
@@rizvaark oh.
The funniest part is that Sukuna still has much more stuff up his sleeve:
Kamutoke with it's lightning strikes
Hiten with its energy draining
The 10 shadows with whichever Shikigami inherited the now destroyed Mahoraga's adaptation power
and possibly even more random bullshit with whatever the "Open" ability is...
(Speculation ->) I'd imagine that he could even use cursed technique reversal on the fire arrow and just freeze Muzan in place
We don’t kno if hiten drains yet
@@theechosenone4471 will be amazing if true ngl
Kamutoke aka Vajra of Jujutsu Kaisen disperses thunder just like it does in the mythologies. Hiten being the Trishula that drains life force, the only thing that makes sense is for it to drain Cursed Energy
@@theechosenone4471Hiten represents Trishula and its Kanji is translated to Flying Heaven. Flying Heaven means above the earth, earth the home of every life force.
GOJO still slams sukuna all day
Muzan: “Let’s see you do anything when I’m hiding in a crowd…”
Sukuna: “Alright everybody welcome back to Sukuna’s Malevolent Kitchen, today we got 97% human meat with a hint of Demon meat on the 3%, salted and seasoned for half off our original prices.”
I'm dying 🤣
bro really cooked Muzan fans by this
Real coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb situation here lmao
taking their verse into account, this fight was so miss matched from the start. This is like making a vid about final form frieza vs Baki hanma. I mean in JJK they create black holes and have light speed feats. In Demon Slayer Muzan cant even finish off a bunch of asthmatic kids with swords
Nailed it👌
I know this is a joke, but You're glazing JJK. JJK characters do NOT have light speed feats. And Yuki was the only character who could create ONE black hole, NOT black HOLES.
@@hero303-gameplayindonesia8 Jjk power system is higher
@@g1lbert68 yeah, I don't doubt that. It's just that the commenter was glazing JJK a little too much.
@@hero303-gameplayindonesia8depends. theoretically gojo's purple should be ftl since it's an imaginary mass. so just reacting to it puts you somewhere around light speed. and there is the pre culling games maki who could catch a bullet from a revolver. revolver bullets travel at around mach 2-3 i think so you can imagine how fast you'd have to be to react to and catch one. but yeah mostly just hypersonic speed aside from the top 5 or something
This is more unfair than goku vs krillin 💀
Krillgod solos fraudku
@@Kyuubey0406faaax 🤑
@@Kyuubey0406 spit yo shit my brother, spit yo shit indeed 🗣️🔥🔥
Nah Killin slams he destroys the whole Multiverse just by seeing the top of his head shine
@@Kyuubey0406 nah Sukuna and Gojo slam that bald midget kid into oblivion, same with Goku
1 Reality/World Cutting Dismantle is enough for Muzan
Sukuna negs
not sure since Muzan certainly can regrow himself from his head.
@@mr.p215 1 reality cutting dismantle slash is way bigger than Muzan
He will get erased
Not only that Sukuna can send hundreds of them at the same time
A wall of reality cutting slash
Kashimo FTL character couldn't dodge 1 dismantle even after Sukuna warned him before attacking
sukuna doesnt even need to use that, fire arrow will burn muzan outta existence@@Rishabh149
@@BB-vy5rxvery true!!! A lot of people forget he has the fire arrow which is basically a nuke or at least semi-nuke
Also he could just eat for the fun of it.
Who honestly thinks this is even a debate, that's like putting a kitten against a grizzly bear
"Coughing baby vs tsar bomb" ahh fight
Muzan after being put over Sukuna's lap and spanked until sunrise:
Sukuna vs Gojo proved just how intelligent Sukuna is when it comes to battle IQ. He had adaptation with Mahoraga as a backup plan just in case he would lose the domain clash opening. Even if somehow Muzan could do ANYTHING lethal to Sukuna, Sukuna wouldnt let it happen again. Also, for the Gojo meatriders, Gojo was dead to rights. It wasnt an asspull 💀💀💀💀
It was the biggest asspull in JJK and probably anime history
@@Fr3eazE in what way was Mahoraga an aspull when that was the whole reason Sukuna tok Megumi's body
@@AvocadoSpiritMahoraga isn’t the asspull, Sukuna’s world slash is.
@@hermesshallot3325 it was setup chapters before
@@hermesshallot3325Gojo warped space as shield or spear, Sukuna cut said SPACE. "Asspull" 🤷
For some reason i can't see any Demon Slayer fans crying in this comment section?
Bc it was only recommended to jjk fans, hear me out, not nerfed Muzan is equivalent to 18 fingers of Sukuna, if you want me to explain it I will, btw he got nerfed so bad bc DS had to be cut short bc of some of the creator's family members suffering disease or something like that. But Muzan is country level as well as Gojo as well as Sukuna.
Awh hell na. Explain@@jp-teichon9154
@@jp-teichon9154explain how muzan is country level
@@odin.... Daki is city block, Gyutaro destroyed all the red district in one attack, Gyokko is stronger than Gyutaro, Muichiro Tokito humilliated Gyokko, Muichiro Tokito was humilliated by Kokushibo and Kokushibo is still weaker than nerfed Muzan, who is only 20% of his full power, does that help?
@@odin.... Muzan lacks the AP yo destroys countrys, but he can easily go on a faur 1v1 against characters that are considered nation level, btw Sukuna is also lacks the ap to destroy a country in 1 attack, he can destroy whole citys but not countrys, but he could take over countrys if he wanted to, as well as gojo as well as muzan.
Honestly, at first I was lost on the electromagnetic radiation/wave part, but rereading the chapter yeah, his vaporizing ability did mention that. As for how Sukuna could kill Muzan I guess he would just chop him up, and eat him.
That would actually help Sukuna, he could turn all of humanity into hybrids of curses, and demons, there wouldn’t be any more weaklings, instead it would be a world filled with immortal op beings, constantly improving, but I guess without humans to eat, and create curse energy, they would probably still be mortal, but with longer lives, and op healing.
@@miceatah9359 Sukuna’s somebody that will toy around, and use it until he had his fun to use it or he will use it as a finisher, like how he used it against Mahoraga. Also if Muzan’s blood hits Sukuna, it would infect him, letting Sukuna feel the boost in power becoming a demon would give him, and would just try to eat Muzan for the insane boost.
1) sukuna mentioned that taking purple would be fatal to him which would mean that he wouldn't be able even to fight let alone using cleave after getting hit by purple.
2) low on output, CE, RCT and badly injured means that he wouldn't be able to fight efficiently anymore and yet he was able to do an asspull moment to cut through space
3) GOJO recovered his output, CE, RCT in chapter 235 which would mean he could finish sukuna at that moment. Furthermore it shows that GOJO was already winning but chapter 236 suddenly cut to him getting off screen and a dumb explanation of sukuna being able to cut through the world. 🤣
4) GOJO has the highest potential than any of the jujutsu sorcerers and was constantly hyped up as the strongest sorcerer. You can't just seal him and unseal him without letting him contribute to the plot with little to no impact and then let him die it's random.
What happened to the character who calls Sukuna a challenger? Giving him off screen death and having him glazing over sukuna is also completely disrespectful and out of character.
Maybe if sukuna had used his true CT and full power And perhaps if gojo saved megumi and gave sukuna permanent damage I wouldn't complain. But GEGE had to pull out a random ass pull moment to power up sukuna. In short, GOJO death is embarrassing and disrespectful.
5) GOJO did absolutely nothing. Can't save megumi, cant kill sukuna, can't bury geto, no plan against kenjaku and barely have any interactions with yuji and gang after unseal. What's the point of unsealing gojo then?
6) What's stopping sukuna from copying infinity now if he can learn cutting space from his dad? The main cast would stand no chance against him. Cutting space is just stupid plot armor plot convenience ass pull moment 🤡
In short, sukuna = king of plot and fraud
KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT FRAUDKUNA FAN
@@jamesbond-cx2uh dude my comment was just about a CT that the video mentioned, and Sukuna eating Muzan. Why are you talking about the Gojo vs Sukuna fight, mentioning things that have nothing to do with Muzan.
I’m against the win Sukuna had, but I’m not going to just throw a fit about it, on vs battles that have nothing to do with the Gojo vs Sukuna fight.
@@miceatah9359 Cleave is enough
@@jamesbond-cx2uh did you replied to the wrong comment dude?
For anyone saying fraudjo Sukuna straight up saying he couldn’t get past infinity without mahoragas adaptation:
“it transmuted it’s own cursed energy in order to neutralize and nullify your invulnerability. That was something I could not do so I waited. I waited until I could obtain an adaptation that could match your infinity.”
Sukuna admitted gojo is stronger than him💀
he didn't admit anything.
he literally straight up said mahoraga was just a setup to expand his target's reach which would automatically invalidate gojo's infinity.
Sukuna world bisecting slash invalidating all defensive abilities by just cutting though the 3rd dimension as we know it:
(Works almost the same as go/jo hollow purple that deletes matter from existance)
@@Generic_username69 it doesn't delete shit
lmfao sukuna ate that shit everytime gojo used it
I like to imagine what would happen if the Demon Moons and Muzan actually did exist in JJK as special grade cursed objects. Like the lower ranks being weaker and more akin to semi-first/first grades cursed objects all end up being destroyed by sorcerers over the course of centuries, but the essence of each Upper Rank and Muzan would be special grade cursed objects and thus indestructible. I get Demon Slayer verse is kinda fodder compared to most verses, so they'd have to be scaled in stronger than they are in their verse to keep it fair.
you mean curse spirits?
@@kalilasqary4090 No. Cursed objects basically hold the soul of a curse user, and when a cursed object is consumed it overwrites the consciousness and (I believe soul) with that of the soul residing within the cursed object.
@@NoiriumIdk mb. I know what curse objects are. I just thought that you thought if the demons in ds are in jjk, they'd be curse spirits is all
there's a lot of misinformation in the video, mainly about sukuna's abilities and it's properties, and pertaining to the properties when against Gojo. at that point, it was definitely durability negation but not in the sense of attacking one's soul, but rather the "space" of it's target.
the reason why it's the space is that sukuna literally couldn't touch gojo whilst he had his infinity active. during the fight gojo was switching his infinity on and off as a means of mixup and variation. an in verse comparison would be the of 2 cursed tools. Maki's soul split katana "Mai" and Toji's Inverted spear of heaven.
The slash that ended Gojo was more similar to the Toji's ISoH, which ignored all cursed techniques, quite frankly just disabling it in the case of Satoru Gojo. As a matter of fact, it was even more busted as it just cut the "space" that Satoru Gojo's body parts existed in. The first example we saw was when Sukuna cut off Gojo's arm whilst his Infinity was active, and the shocked look that Gojo had on his face when his arm came off.
Now I'm not saying that Sukuna isn't capable of doing damage to the soul, but saying that he straight up did without any scans saying so is just spreading blatant misinformation. As of right now we haven't seen him be able to outright damage the soul.
but yea, sukuna still stomps, think we all knew that. anyone with a a modicum of brain matter would know that this fight just isn't fair.
tl;dr: sukuna cuts the space around go/jo, not soul (that we currently know of), letting us each get a half of him.
Gojo death was still plot
@@mhassankhalid3774dream brotha dream.
The Mahito fight literally shows Sukuna can damage the soul with his slashes.
Why tf do ppl keep writing one piece level of long stories about this debate why is someone taking so much time out of their day to write all this bruh😢
The essential differences are, SUKUNA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Muzan in terms of adaptability, Battle Intelligence, Intelligence and Strategic approaches.
And stats
no, lol. muzan hid from the one person he was sure to lose to, you telling me *that’s* intelligence? really?
“Stand proud Muzan, you were strong…” - SUKUNA
I just want to say this we only had one instance where we had a chance to see muzan fight and he was poisoned and weakened by considerable amount but even with that he would still get tossed by sukuna.
Actually the nerf was insane. I think full strength muzan is pretty much unkillable for sukuna
@@kenonerboy you high? sukunas domain expansion cuts existence bro, did you watch the video
@@nooseloverr i was talking about pre gojo fight sukana. for post, its pretty much over.
just so you know muzan was nerfed in 4 diffrent ways.
1 a medicine that turns him into a human, weakening his powers
2 a poison that ages him 3000 years per hour
3. a poison that prevents him from splitting his body into pieces
4. a poison that destroys his cells.
and dispite all this his body was still fighting the poisons effects while he was talking on all of the demonslayers.
people really undersell how busted that guy is
@@kenonerboy yeah, while i'm pretty sure Sukuna would still win, i doubt he could actually kill Muzan, since it's stated that even with those poisons, his body regenerated the instant he was cut
@@mirisugo3030 probably, but hypothetical max power muzan gotta be pretty busted
Muzan Vs finger bearer would be more even
finger bearer wins or stalemate, curses are non corporeal and invulnerable to physical attacks. One would need non-physical-interaction or soul manipulation to interact with cursed spirits.
@@4nnd711verse equalization
@@For56Lgbtq01 not a rule or a law + thats not how it works, only the similar aspects of a power system get equalized, for example:
spiritual pressure and idle transfiguration would just be soul manipulation
kamehameha and bijuu bombs would be energy projection
hakai and darkseids omega beams would be existence erasure
verse equalization reasonably equates similar abilities from 2 differing power systems to make interaction between 2 characters from seperate verses possible, it doesnt mean giving characters that dont have certain abilities the necessary abilities to win a battle, thats like me giving a regular human with no special powers the ability to interact with non physical beings because i want them to win a fight against a ghost. Thats not equalizing anything, that would just be me giving benefits to one side unfairly.
@@4nnd711thank you. “Verse equalization” is the dumbest thing ever.
Muzan was super nerfed and dying in the last fight. I agree that sukuna slaps but I wish we got to see muzan at full power
I know, since that power is debatable and stuff and we never saw his peak I just went off what we saw.
@@CursedValor oh yeah I understand you can only go with what he showed
@@CursedValortbf that can go both ways. We’ve yet to see sukunas full arsenal of powers. The power gap between the two will only get bigger as the manga continues
@@flashy-macho4203we saw now and based on what we saw, his Space Cleave powerup is his greatest power.
how are you so sure, we dont even know sukunas CT
Yoriichi gave Muzan PTSD, and literally one shot him in one move.
I want to meet again the mf who said akaza beats sukuna, still the most ridiculous shit I’ve ever argued with.
Someone even said Tanjiro can beat Gojo though like I can’t stand their point haha😂😂😂
When kashimo vs sukuna gets animated tho we will all be happy no doubt they will go crazy for the animation for this fight 😭
There's no way Muzan is a lightning timer, he is at best mach 10 plus, not more.
you read the manga?
the manga literally shows characters dodging lightning with ACTUAL lightning properties
mach 10 is MASSIVE downplay bro
@@UnofficiallyRed28momentoThen you have the same characters in the manga getting hit by bullets and sonic screams , it’s just inconsistent that demon slayer characters are lightning timers when the attacks they are hit with aren’t even real lightning and have never been stated to be the speed of actual lightning
@@therussiancowboy2929 Yeah low tiers get hit by bullets.
I am talking about the mid to high tiers like Hakari who actually dodge real lightning.
It is not an outlier since these guys have NOTHING to do with the mfs getting hit by bullets. They're not relative, especially with all the gaps in speed shown between nearly every person.
@@therussiancowboy2929 keep in mind Yuji when he does get hit by Sonic screams was the Yuji before his multiple amps throughout Shibuya
Riko has always been fodder I don't think this is debatable
And even the other bullets in question actually get caught in point blank range (like maki who catches a point blank rubber bullet enhanced with Cursed Energy) so realistically all you're proving is that pre Shibuya jjk was fodder (which I agree with)
although i do believe sakuna absolutely destroys muzan. i don't think sakuna is light speed nor planetary cuz for 1 it was already explained sakuna can predict certain attacks because of a spark before a technique and the whole planetary thing i believe is referring to him being able to kill everyone or change the very world as we know it. gojo has never been shown with a ability to destroy the world but yuki has, yet she would lose to gojo. i think tht goes to show that its about the ability and hax.
wtf who said sukuna is planetary?
5:15 did u watch @@somebodyoncetoldme8636
Lmao “Sakuna”
@@somebodyoncetoldme8636he cut infinite space with cleave
The cut that could destroy the world
He is planetary
@@easy8figure and also the cut which can cut through existence itself
When he was first talking about speed I was ready to pull out the lightning speed argument but then looked up em waves and realized the massive difference before he even explained it. The only way I could see Muzan winning is if he cuts Sukuna on accident and delivers some of his blood, since his blood destroys cells it might have a chance. This only works however if Sukuna is dumb and doesn’t use reverse curse technique. It also just might not affect him since the necrotic blood from the curse womb brothers didn’t. The blood could maybe turn Sukuna into a demon which would give him some weaknesses and would just instant kill him if Muzan died. That is again assuming that the blood works. Overall Sukuna destroys Muzan.
The blood wouldn't work at all cause first it's considered a poison and 2nd, Sukuna is immune to all poison.
Sukuna is immune to poison lmfao
@@Tyler-bf7em I mentioned this, Muzan’s blood is a bit unusual so I wasn’t sure if it would fall under that category. In any case read the whole thing carefully before making a comment.
@@Tyler-bf7em Yeah but then again Muzan's Poison effect isn't really poison as it destroys the cell of the body an doesn't work like a proper illness/poison should.
But seeing as Sukuna is a Curse and not a human adding onto that with Reverse Curse Energy, he'll be perfectly fine.
@@Thelagenking Poisons are a vague term that can do all manner of things, including toxins that can destroy cells or straight up corrosive properties.
[Muzan]
I think people forgot how OP Muzan was. muzan was severely weakened when we saw him in his full power. muzan isn't a shitty 1000-year-old poorly written character. knowing how Muzan's prepared to kill and decides to kill what's useless for him just shows how long he's been alive. muzan developed tons and tons of shit, just to survive any attacks, he didn't even make Nakime his upper moon until Hantengu died because of Nakime's op blood demon art. muzan's regenerative power is also op, not to mention he possesses infinite stamina as a demon. that's why only the sun could kill Muzan or Yoriichi (Don't Consider Yoriichi A Human) who happens to be an anomaly who's not just skilled, yoriichi was also able to inflict scars that were still burning after Muzan's wound healed. it took Muzan hundreds of years to close up the wounds Yoriichi inflicted on him. that's the only way muzan was defeated!! any idea why Muzan confidently showed up after learning the demon slayer's corps'location despite fearing death? cuz' he knew he's invincible until sunrise and he got name! muzan's regenerative power is far more superior than of gojo satoru.
[Sukuna]
Suzan doesn't have any curse energy in his body, so sukuna would effortlessly just cut off all his brains instantaneously and kill him off using cleeve, or just straight up opening his domain expansion and strengthening its effect by reducing its range. muzan doesn't stand a chance against sukuna. sukuna possess twice the amount yuta has (curse energy) not to mention yuta's curse energy is considered boundless cuz'of how big the amount he has. if gojo can spam nuclear explosion level unlimited purple, sukuna on the other hand could create a domain expansion size of an entire country if not continent. anyone who possess curse energy would most likely survive but those who does not would probably gets killed immediately because of sukuna's cleeve effect.
Sukuna's Cleave and dismantle on domain expansion also turned an entire city into literal DUST, The amount and precision and numbers of slashes that are required to turn an entire city to dust is insanity and something that Muzan wouldn't even survive for a minute.
@@lelouchvibritannia1662 muzan's regenerative power is stronger than mahoraga. mahoraga survived sukuna's domain expansion not because he already adapted to it, but because of his innate regenerative ability. muzan should survive longer actually, and based on the manga it took sukuna's domain expansion a lot of time to annihilate the 200 meters range of his domain, not 15,000 meters (the size of shibuya city) I'm not being bias here, just spitting the facts. the reason why gojo only survive sukuna's domain expansion was because it's not dense enough at their first domain clash.
@@erebusdarkness0 Mahoraga already adapted at that point, Even sukuna said that he not only adapted to cleave and dismantle, but to slashing attacks in general itself... He even said that if he hasn't adapted yet, then the cleave from his domain should've ended mahoraga since Mahoraga took dismantle and not cleave but because he already adapted to slashing attacks in general, cleave and dismantle didn't do much to Mahoraga compared to anyone in the domain, that's why sukuna immediately used his fire arrow.
@@erebusdarkness0mahoraga already adapted
@@IsThatAThaiName mahoraga adapts when the wheel turns. cleeve and dismantle are different types of attack. cleeve is unavoidable, while dismantle is a simple powerful long range slash. cleeve cuts its target depending on toughness and curse energy. mahoraga only adapted to sukuna's dismantle, a simple slashing attack. mahoraga gains the ability to see and deflect sukuna's dismantle after finishing the adaptation. when sukuna opened his domain mahoraga hasn't adapted to both yet that's why he's still vulnerable to malevolent shrine. if mahoraga already adapted to both, he wouldn't be affected at all. get it?
Sukana vs yoirichi would be alot better debate. But even then sukana would body yoirichi lmao which shows he would absolutely annihilate muzan because yoirichi is stronger than muzan
It is a better “debate” true but Sukuna vs muzan is far more thematic which I care about a lot more. I try to think about the flavour of a fight the most when I talk about it.
Sukuna vs yorichii is even less of a debate, atleast muzan has ridiculos healing. Yorichii is human, one domain and he's dust, one lighnting strike he's dead, sukuna using dismantle or cleave cuts him in half, and he prob cant even cut sukuna cause of cursed energy reinforcement, even if he did sukuna could rct as long as he dodges an attack to the head. Yorichii literally has no chance
@@GeoX242 if u remove sukuna's lightspeed feat then it'll be pretty feasable glazing yoruchi to 1/6 of lightspeed cuz of how much times he slashes muzan in a few seconds
@@flappyflap2693 sukuna isnt lightspeed and yoriichii DEF isnt 1/6 the speed of light. Even if he was he cant dodge domain expansion because of the sure hit so it doesnt even matter
@@GeoX242 do the math on how fast you have to be to slash 1800 times in a second, you'll see he's at least 1/6 of the speed of light, as for sukuna the dude is literally lightspeed due to the fact he dodged a literal lightspeed shockwave point blank the evidence is right there gege probably didn't intend for him to be that fast though
1 finger sukuna is enough for muzan😂
no
FACTS
To be safer lets just go with 3 finger Sukuna
5 fingers is a slam
Gets blitz end of debate
love this video
I love you!
We gotta get your content to the recommended page
The struggle is REAL my friend
12:47 I just realized this is the theme of that one visored guy in Asuras Wrath
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I know it won't help Muzan's case in winning the fight, but it is worth noting that he was dodging beyond lightning speed attacks while aging a thousand years a second from Tamayo's poison as well as being entirely outnumbered and being attacked by people who are even faster than Zenitsu. Obviously he still doesn't beat Sukuna, but I think it's impressive all the same honestly
@SpriteJambeFacts.
@LinJie0u is right but dat don’t mean dey can beat a hashira demon slayers have way better speed scaling den jjk
@LinJie0 yes ur right sukuna does win but it would be mid to high diff
No to low Diff @@Backstreetjay-
@@SonGoku59249 fp muzan is putting up a better fight den yuta,yuji, maki everyone in the verse besides Gojo
I loved it when sukuna used the infinite energy needed to move at 5x the speed of light to defeat gojo, super cool
Yea lol
Speed of light so he can travel the earth 5 times in 1 second
Very illiterate excuses, I don't know why people at still stupid enough to compare the SOL in fiction to the SOL in real life, that's completely stupid.
he has a space cutting technique that bypasses
@@clutchgodgamerjoshsukuna does not have light speed as travel speed it's more like reaction speed and combat speed
@@clutchgodgamerjoshthe inability to distinguish travel, combat and reaction speed is amazing
“An undead tyrant? I haven’t fought one of those since the Heian Era…”
Say could you do a "Toji and Maki vs the 12 kizuki" video?
I could look into it sure np
Ngl, that sounds interesting. But to be fair, the only three, who could maybe, actually do shit are douma (because of his ice powers which it was shown, that ice is VERY effective against maki) gyutaro because of his, poison sickles (btw, gyutaro is an maybe) enmu because of the sleep bullshit (which i doubt that it, would even work but it might) but other then these, the rest don't have anything too lethal
@@v1_idkKokushibo has vision of blood opponent. Additionaly kokushibo easy react to shot nearby him .
@@forskipped900 Well, i said that the others don't have anything too lethal. But yeah, kokushibo would do shit aswell. But, i was talking about the most lethal ones, that could counter heavenly restricted people
Muzan relies on his demons too much. I mean my guy was busy finding a cure so he can walk on the sun, and he was well hidden in the infinity castle. No wonder no one knew what he looked like, because he barely fought lol.
Everyone: this character vs that character
Me: what if we fuse them and get rid of their weaknesses
**CURSED DEMON KING**
Why not both fusion fights
Who the hell made this debate, it should be sukuna vs Lucifero
I do think yuki black hole is a situation where you need something to counter it like kenjaku reverse gravity or gojo limitless
tengens barrier techniques were stated to help in reducing the effect of Yuki's blackhole as well so any barrier would help as well as long as its strong enough.
(Also an attack that affects space would just neg the black hole out of existence like sukunas spacial slash).
@@somaloll now would that destroy the black hole or make it worse
@samuraibear5102 When Tengen used barriers it made it better, idk how much but it said it helped atleast. Sukunas' space slash should just erase it if that doesn't work tho.
Maybe a dismantle would work too since its stated to adjust itself based off the targets cursed energy amount and we know Yuki has less cursed energy than Sukuna so that might also be an option.
if improved cleave cut right through it it'd either just make two blackholes which would just collide and create an extremely huge explosion that'll wipe out a majority if not all of the solar system judging by the size, or it would destroy it and all that mass spilling out would also just. explode, but all that mass is ejected instead of coalescing back together, that's how i see it
@@eddieddieeddiethank GOD you don’t write for jjk
9:50 correction here, Muzan isn't just faster than lightning, Misturi who was the first Hashira to fall on their battle was able to block and Slash multiple lightnings falling from the Sky and she wasn't even able to percieve anything Muzan was doing while he had to focus on the other Hashiras she also wasn't able to see or feel while fighting.
Then if we're going to talk about his moves, we have to talk about the one thing Demons Slayer characters in general have against most Manga characters wich is their senses, at the start of the series Tanjiro was able to smell and keep track of people across their pocket dimentions (the triple Demon) but as he got stronger, his sense of Smell became better letting him start smelling the best moment to hit his opponents, then developed the skill to smell their next move, to hide his own literal soul from his opponent in order to guarantee the next attack against an opponent who could feel his next attack, albeit Tanjiro having his senses be several times worse than Muzans by the time he did that.
I'm not saying he's 50/50 against Sukuna or that he's close to Sukuna in power but he still has his own habilities and feats that can actually compare like how his regeneration makes any wound he recieves to be completely obsolete because he does it faster than a lot of characters, how his entire body can be used as a poisonous mouth wich can rip off pieces from the ground in all directions (yes he does that by breathing and can even eat glass and concrete) or just hide his own attacks from his opponents senses on purpose in order for them to hit while also hiding his abilities until Muzan knows they're gonna hit (he did it to Mitsuri).
With how both characters have ways to kill and hit each other here, i would say it's like a 8/2 on this fight in favor of Sukuna because he is still faster and can spam his deadliest attacks against Muzan who has to charge up his seizure beams and doesn't have an actual way to counter Sukuna when he attacks
Sukuna wins purely on the basis that his writing as a character is a million times better than the bollocks that is Demon Slayer.
Demon Slayer has about 3 good characters and Muzan is definitely not one of them.
Demon slayer have whole different power system and ds dont need more.
And Jjs litteraly have only 3 good write chaarcters : Nanamin , Mahito and Yuji.
all the rest are not disclosed at all
WE MAKING IT OUT MACH 3 SPEED FEATS WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🗣️
we had already done that black flash happens in 1 microsecond which it takes a bolt of lightning 30 microseconds to hit the ground making their reaction speed 30 times faster than lightning which moves at 270,000 MPH times that by 30 and you get 8,100,000 MPH as a reaction speed which is way faster than mach 3 which is only 2300 MPH and someone like Hakari can just dodge lightning and sukuna and gojo blitz him without trying.
Great video bro ❤❤❤
But the only problem is that the power levels are too high, though it doesn't really effect the fight much, its a bit overrated
For speed : sukuna and muzan are both barely light speed (they weren't able to dodge slower attack)
For deffense : muzan is like city block level while sukuna is a nation level (kenjaku had anti gravity technique so he had the perfect counter for yuki but sukuna survived hollow void whichis said to be stronger the the strongest nukes)
For offence : muzan is also like city level (and that's with glazing him) but sukuna is like nation level (his normal ct attacks aren't soul targetting as mahito touched sukuna's soul and entered his inner domain and so sukuna saw mahito's soul but other then that, world cutting slash just ignores all durability and deffence and just cuts the person up while the normal ct is city level since we can see how sukuna is able to destroy building easily with one of them and then there is the domain expansion, which is perfectly explained in the video)
Stamina : muzan has infinite amount (it was said that demons have infinite stamina) while sukuna could probably have infinite (not because of cursed energy but because of Reversed cursed energy or positive energy as sukuna has insane amounts of cursed energy and he can heal himself using reverse [cursed energy has a negative value and negative × negative = positive so yh] and with it he can heal any injury or fatigue he has)
I'll stop here as there is a lot more to cover
But the result stays the same
Sukuna obliterates muzan either with domain expansion or world cutting slash
Note : sukuna nerfed himself as he made a binding vow where he sacrificed the ability to use world cutting slash freely and will have to use incantations and hand signs to be able to send 1 world cutting slash that gojo can't dodge (gojo can see sukuna's technique and the world cutting slash)
- sukuna also has open divine flame or open furnace (same thing different translations, its name in japanese is kamino) which he can use in his domain or outside it to send a fire arrow that will burn anything to ashes
- sukuna's true form also is op as he has 2 mouths, he can breeth threw one and do incantations with other infinitely, and four arms, he can fight with 2 and do hand signs with the others (incantations and handsings buff the attacks of cursed techniques, basecally every technighe we see in the anime is like 50% of its true power, but with incantations and hand signs its basecally 100% so yh poor muzan man)
We putting all the demon slayer glaziers to rest with this😂
This video glazes the shit out of Sukuna to a point that it isn’t even Sukuna being talked about. Every feat and ability description in this video has a counter point that completely destroys the feat provided. Sukuna is not faster than light, not even remotely close, Sukuna’s domain is also not killing peak muzan since we see very clearly that it doesn’t just erase opponents
Light speed?? There is no jujutsu character that is light speed 🤨
Sukuna is, bro literally dodged em waves (you know, stuff that travels AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT) at POINT FUCKING BLANK
@@Generic_username69 they travel at speed of lighting or hyper- sound
Why the fuck do people think Demon Slayer characters can do anything to literally any other shounen anime character 😭
bruh different power scaling, Sukuna would wipe whole demon slayer universe in seconds😂
Gojo scale town. Dkt scale sun
Mid fan boy😢
@@Darzereditzyou need to put in more effort if you want to be a convincing clown
@@PocketCat6 shut up🤡🤡
@@Darzereditz nah i'd win because you left it all behind with this treasure I summon always bet on Hakari I'm you
Hoesntly JJk has been lightspeed since Kenjaku reacted to Yuki's blackhole feat but MANN is this a stomp
No. Yuki didn't immediately summon a black hole. She gradually raised her mass up to the point it would reach a black hole. So kenjaky reacting doesn't mean he has light speed reaction time.
@@Blackmustache870 "Reach a balck hole" Literally contradicted yourself.
@hikolfakeholoki6492 idk know the specifics if a black hole. R u saying that's physics wise it shouldn't be possible fir something to reach a black hole? If not, and ur saying shevwas already at a black hole, than my point was that it didn't happen instantly. She raised her lvl to that point gradually so during tge time she wasn't at the lvl of a black hole, kenjaku had plenty of time to react that doesn't correlate to light speed.
@@hikolfakeholoki6492 How so? Gravity is a spectrum. Only when it reaches a certain number can a celestial mass be called a black hole. That standard is when the aceleration of gravity is so strong that light itself can't escape. How did he contradict himself? He's right.
@@hikolfakeholoki6492read some more
"Ah my anti demon king technique. I haven't used this since the heian era."
When he said it wasn’t fair he damn ment it. Muzan’s deadly wipe like tentacles put his blood in who ever it attacks and instead of turning them into demons it acts as a poison that can kill people, but Sakura is immune to those and his dummy stupid over powered regen gets bypassed, like what? Yeah safe to say muzan gets blitzed.
all the people arguing over power and shi in the comments like damn the video is just for fun and reality check: nobody actually gives an f if a verse is stronger than another verse lmao
"You are going to become one of my Upper Moons."
- "Are you sure that you can even land a hit on me, fancy boy?"
Sukuna would mollywop humiliate rape and absolutely decimate Muzan I’ve read both manga lol
Blud sukuna just have to play with muzan till sunrise😂😂
5 finger sukuna is enough to beat muzan😂
@@fuffythegreat blud sukuna just have to play with muzan till sunrise like a child😂....
And domain expansion can destroy every cell of body
How does body can be regenerate without cells
You surely skipped science classes😂
blud 200% hollow purple destroyed whole city and purple negates durability but still sukuna survive that
and muzan who got defeated by bunch of human with swords🤡 and whose durability is village level, it's just that he can regenerate😂
@@fuffythegreat blud even yoorichi is not faster than light dumb mid slayer fan😂
If Yoriichi is 1000 times faster than the speed of sound, he'd have destroyed ALL pieces of Muzan in less than a single second, because that's like moving at 70000 mph, or higher. Muzan splitted himself in 1800 pieces, and for "few seconds Yoriichi destroyed 1500 of them".
lol heian era sukuna out matching kashimo speed who was travelling through speed of light and that was not reaction speed🤡
First learn how to read🤡
Enjoyed the video a lot! While watching i noticed you'd said something about kashimos technique being able to manifest "any phenomenon" might be a mistranslation because from how other translations have stated it that its any phenomenon electricity can produce. And while I still think sumuna dogwalks that mf muzan I do not think sukuna is nowhere near light speed, def a lightning timer but if kashimo was throwing out light speed attacks and sukuna was dodging them then even in base sukuna should have never once gotten hit by gojo
This match up feels like Gaimon vs Kaido lol.
god i need to catch up to one piece, still on chapter 300
Planetary durability can barely tank a small city lvl attack lolol
Hollow purple has existence erasure
@@Reed.. I'm pretty sure its not existence erasure, but seeing as blue pulls, red pushes, i think it's just pulling your atoms apart while pushing them together. I don't know what that does to atoms, but i imagine it turns atoms into like, the equivalent of dust to atoms idk what that is but that's my guess
@@Edorec my interpretation of how hollow purple works is that by creating imaginary mass the laws of the universe does not know what the fuck its supposed to do with the hollow purple and just decides to delete anything it touches
@@Generic_username69Hollow purple can be tnaked bc it s not black hole.
Hollow purple push and at the same time pull. But if you can tank strengh of pull and strength of push = you can tank Hollow purple.
**Dimension slash, Dismantle ** end of story
I wanna find the person who asked this versus-question and check to see if they are talking to a rock, wall or mirror.
Gojo is literally a God compared to the demon slayer verse
And sukuna boxed him for like an hour and manejed to win by adapting to his completely busted barrier and killed him.
Sukuna would erase him entirely and muzan does not even have anything to hurt sukuna.
Gojo had existence erasing nukes that were supercharger at 200% of his already godlike power and sukuna ate that shit only bringing him to deaths door due to the leangth and intensity of the battle before hand.
Didn't each that shit!! rather used Megumi's soul as a shield, Mahoraga as a perfect adapting machine and blue print to a space cutting technique........🗿🥶 But he's a fraud
@@g1lbert68He did ate the first Purple, which was at 200% potency. lol. And even exhausted he survived the last maximum purple without becoming a half.
that "rar" caught me off gaurd 💀
Sukuna only beat gojo because he used mahoraga to adapt and counter gojos abilities and was then able to use those abilities himself after seeing them even after gojo took out mahoraga. I’d be interested to see how prime Sukuna from 1000 years ago would have done against gojo in a straight 1 v 1
would probably still beat him, he can do hand signs and chants to amplify his domain expansion (that deactivates gojos infinity) and he has 4 arms and his body is stronger than megumis so he would absolutely destroy him on a fist fight with domain amplification let alone him hsving probably the best rct in the series gojo stands no chance lmfao)
Sukuna rn is in his prime, stronger than 1000 years ago
@@Tyler-bf7emsukuna from 1000 years ago stands no chance, you have no clue what you talking about bro
@@thetubersto4369u clearly didn't read the manga after all sukuna could have end gojo early on the moment he couldn't open a domain anymore sukuna could have transformed into his 1000 years form but he didn't lol
I just want sukuna to get a better treatment than muzan
Cuz muzan died as a real clown 🤡
Nah he went out like he lived a scared and crying baby
1:41 nah, that edit was crazy😂
@CursedValor do Sukuna vs all versions of ghost rider next😂
😂
4:14 something important to add is that kenjaku used anti-grav technique which countered the blackhole
and im pretty sure no one in jjk moves at light speed
As the video said, he used it AFTER realizing it was a black hole
Crazy how everyone glazes sukuna when put up against muzan when the only feat we have of him is the manga where he's nowhere near full power💀
Sukuna did keep up with gojo but if wasn't with his teleportation because he couldn't use it. But yes I understand what you mean it was a fight of the strongest
Sukuna is faster than Gojo.
@@GigaNiga483 if you think so I think they are both equal in speed
Gojo used TP many times when he h2h Sukuna, I'm not saying that he's slower or faster, it is arguable, but from what I saw Gojo isn't fast, and he overused his TP capabilities, we will witness it in animation, but Gojo fought Sukuna the same way as they first time meet, GOJO isn't as fast as Sukuna he to avoid Sukunas punches TP a lot during fight, just read it again, the moments when Sukuna is trying to punch him and Gojo is just below him he to it's like in anime when Gojo from nowhere appeared behind Sukuna, you can't call something fast if it doesn't move at all lol
@@ThereIsOnlyOneRandom lot of gojo combat and keeping up with sukuna was not teleportation. He didn't even use it at all in their fight, cause with the domain expansions he couldn't..to say gojo isn't fast when he got the better of sukuna in hand to hand bouts is crazy
@@ThereIsOnlyOneRandomI understand what you are saying. But gojo would definetly be able to fight without tp. Its just that tp puts him in better positions instead of dodging and taking angles. It takes to much effort to get behind your apponent, with very good ones its almost impossible. Imagine you can just tp behind them
Sukuna can see the "sparks" before kashimo dishes the attack, cause kashimo isn't Ftl, so kashimo landing a hit vs sukuna reacting to the blast would just mean It's a normal attack, and it's anime, every anime has characters dodging in mid air, and if sukuna had planetary durability, he would face tank anything gojo does, yet gojo is bare minimum multi city block level, and Sukunas enclosed domain wouldnt work since you need CE to even be detected in it, and his open domain would work but the sure hit affect wouldnt be applied without ce, yes sukuna still wins, but hes not ftl or has planetary dura
I agree that sukuna isn't ftl. He's 2× lightning speed at least for being able to blitz kashimo.
But he does have planetary lvl durability and u can scale gojo to planetary as well. Yukis black hole could destroy the planet. Kenjaku used a similar method to domain amplification to survive. Domain amplification only works if the characters aren't too far apart in power, shown through gojo and the disaster curses. So you'd have to say kenjaku was somewhere near tgat lvl. Around multi continental. Both gojo and 15f sukuna r both implied to be able to kill kenjaku easily, so they should have higher ap than yukis black hole. And they should no doubt tank more than kenkaku and survive the black hole as well. Thus means they have planetary lvl ap and durability.
Sukunas domain would work because it's an aoe move. He doesn't need to detect muzan.
It's not because of the barrier being open that he's able to use dismantle on CE-less objects. Sukuna is just able to do it.
I agree he's not ftl or planetary though
thank god someone used the em waves feats and not using the mach 3 feats on sukuna when almost the entirety of jjk chars are genuinely more weaker and sukuna would neg diff almost all of them too
Muzan would probably spawn at least 30 cursed spirits during the fight from just existing
Muzan is a grade 2, he ain't doing sh¡t, for that you would need a sukuna or gojo level, thing muzan is nowhere near lol
@@idkwhattoputherelol-c1d Nah bro the joke was that he's so eternally pissed off for no reason that his mere presence would up cursed spirit spawnrates
@@charlesm6819 sorry i didn't see DS more than femboy tanjiro 😔
@@idkwhattoputherelol-c1d Also bro he is NOT a grade 2
@@charlesm6819 grade 1, and im being generous
Interesting matchup.
In terms of speed, both sre actually pretty damn fast. Both have ftl scaling.
Sukuna as he could dodge Electromagnetic waves in his half dead state and Muzan because he was able to preception blitz Mitsuri in his drugged state and mitsuri could casually react and intercept lightning attacks. I did give it to muzan as prime muzan is yoroichi fight because post yoroichi fight muzan had the scars which nerfed him. And the fact muzan had to be drugged by literally 4 drugs which aged him and made his slower etc, says volume. And also due to the fact that Muzan was getting jumped by multiple hashiras which again would hinder him from traveling at full speed. Muzan barely edges out speed.
In terms of strength, sukuna absolutely stomps, he has planetary scaling via yukis blackhole. Muzan cracks city level max.
In terms of durability, it goes to sukuna obviously
In terms of regeneration capabilities, both are good in different departments. Sukuna has cellular healing and can heal limbs but loses healing output fast. Muzan doesn't have cellular healing but can practically heal any part of his body with better efficiency than sukuna.
In terms of hax, it goes to sukuna shouldn't be a debate.
Winner:
Muzans poison is his only way of harming sukuna however sukuna has RCT which pretty much negates the poison. And sukuna can split his soul into different parts and can Reincarnate if he needs to. On the other hand, i don't think malevolent shrine can finish of muzan as muzan would survive either way. However sukunas space Dismantle is more than enough to neg muzan as the Regeneration would be overpowered. Since sukuna cuts space, he also cuts everything which exists in the space, so he js pretty much cutting the atoms and everything which compose the space, since yoroichi could overpower muzans regen with his cellular AP, then sukuna easily can too with his space Dismantle.
Muzans only saving grace is his speed advantage.
Sukuna should mid diff muzan, the reason it isn't low diff is because of the speed advantage of muzan. However either way, muzan has literally zero wincons. Sukuna stomps.
How tf is muzan FTL? By blitzing a character able to dodge lighting attacks with lighting being on average 1/3 lightspeed. That is not lightspeed. That is just hypersonic.
Muzan dosent have any ftl scaling because lightning in itself isn’t the speed of light.
@@vengefulgrape7512 not even blitzing but preception blitzing.
You need to be many magnitudes faster in running speed along if you are blitzing someone at lightning speed.
And that was in his drugged state who is massively weaker.
@@pboyzero556 preception blitzing lightning speed and that blitzing is his running speed.
@@mhassankhalid3774 that still doesn't make muzan FTL. It just makes him hypersonic +.
Jujutsu Kaisen: Sukuna Win.
Demon Slayer: Muzan lose.
What I have in mind this is not even a fair fight for Muzan
Shibuya Sukuna would body Muzan already, Muzan's Healing won't be a problem since Sukuna defeted Mahoraga who can adapt to anything
Muzan's healing is far greater than Mahoraga's adaptive healing
@@ShadeThaArtist Muzan's not survive getting slashes continuously with slashes that turns something to dust, Muzan cannot regen if all his vital organs are hit together all at once, And Cutting space is something Sukuna can do, Muzan would get erased from existence if he get hit by one slash
@@ShadeThaArtistbro shibuya arc he had 15 fingers so wasent at his peak, and he was holding back so much that it wouldnt be a crazy thing to say he was like 75% holding back or more.... Yup if that sukuna can ragdoll muzan, a 20 finger hein era sukuna would just straight up disrespect that mf no dif
@@blub_okyes he can heal that
If muzan gets cut by the "cutting space" he can just regen again
We saw muzan healing even before a sword finished to cut his neck
Is similar to hakari, but faster
@@Joaquin-wj1qohe can't regen if he gets oneshotted
sukuna one shots with soul manipulation
Huh? Are you referring to how sukuna can damage the soul?
Sukuna vs Muzan isn't even a contest. Muzan loses out in pretty much every area. Dude would get massacred.
Before Ch236, I’d say Muzan wins cuz of his insane regen, hax and greater speed scaling. But now, I think Sukuna is finely chopping him by letting the space cleave do the work, then finishes Demon King Of Pop Sama by baking him at 10000 degree with flame arrow ✨🔥🗿🔥✨
Fair enough
15 fingers sukuna kills him bro.. not to even talk about 20 fingers😭
3 finger sukuna toys with him
1 finger sukuna negs 😐
The KNY verse its very weak compared to JJK, the best feats from them are their speed being the mid-high tier characters Massively Hypersonic+ with Multi-City Block to Large Town level
gonna call cap on some of theses wild statements sukuna cannot the destroy the planet. what they meant when they said he could destroy the world was that fact that he could end humanity or the modern world. yuki could destroy the planet but sukuna nor gojo has an ability that can do that. just because this person can do it and the other person is stronger doesn't mean they can do it too unless your going by dragon ball logic.
It’s based off of the fact that we have both statements of them being stronger and their techniques being stronger, I think you might be misunderstanding though, I’m not saying his punch would LITERALLY blow up the planet, just that the potency of it is equal to that.
Obviously you have to account for things like DC and range, stuff like that.
@@CursedValorsukuna's range has been caped to multi continental not planetary.
Based on what I have seen of both gojo and sukuna their both city level the only reason yuki can destroy the world is due to the fact that she can create a black hole if sukuna had this ability he could destroy the world but he doesn't Im not smart when It comes this power scaling stuff but I got a bellow average understanding of it. I would like to understand your side of thinking more so I can learn how to power scale better but my tiny brain says that gojo and sukuna are city level at full strength. 🤧🤔
@@Animeeditz1982 so by your logic destructive power doesn't necessarily mean stronger in 1v1 fights
So theoretically I can kill a magician that can destroy a city by shooting him
But I can't destroy the city
Yes or No? Your thoughts
@@g1lbert68It depends on your ability's how you kill them doesn't matter. sukuna's greatest feat was destroying a whole city with his domain the reason yuki could destroy the world was because of her ability sukuna has no ability that can do this. let me list down the problems with your logic first all yuta is stronger than yuki so he can destroy earth yes?
OK so now we do anybody stronger than yuki can destroy earth yes? and gojo and sukuna are stronger than all of them right? so that means gojo and sukuna can destroy the solar system. congratulations you just broke the jjk scaling system and now nothing makes sense are you happy now? well are ya?
@@Animeeditz1982 so that means YES
I can kill a magician that can destroy a city with a knife but I can't literally destroy a city with a knife
Edit: that means am stronger but not more destructive so power scaling is strange
Muzan be doing the moonwalk and thinking he’s cooking but then Sukuna uses malevolent shrine and proves bro cooking with no ingredients;-;
I'm interested to know how long do you guys think the fight would've lasted if gojo had no infinity?
Without infinity sukuna win mid diff
without infinitu gojo could probably lose to Mahito or Jogoat
@@Tyler-bf7emnah, domain expansion is still too much for them to handle
@@Tyler-bf7eminfinite void made them look like fodders
@@SonGoku59249 ?? lmfao Sukuna won the first domain clashes he wouldve won without his infinity
It's very rare for a demon slayer characters to be able to survive outside their verse. The demons probably have the highest chance but sukuna vs Muzan would be such a stomp its almost comical. I dont even have to explain why. At the end of the day. Muzan cannot compete. Frankly i dont think he'd win versus some of the HUMANS in jjk.
And now I have light speed feats for jjk thanks for that
The only problem with this fight is even is Sukuna is stronger than Muzan can he actually kill him. Sunlight and Nichirin swords are about the only thing that affects demon.
Sukuna just needs to pop a domain and keep slicing Muzan till the sun comes up.
Sukuna showed that his stamina is insane, so he can easily stale Muzan long enough to sun come up. Humans who can breath were able to do it, so Sukuna can do it too
Also, Sukuna tanked hollow purple twice, no attack from Muzan comes even close to such AP level
Yes muzan almost died to yochiro when all of his hearts and organs were cut at basically the same time
Sukuna could replicate that but even better due to dismantle basically being exactly that but stronger because it actually all hits at once instead of essentially at once(but this doesn't even really matter because he could just use a the fire arrow to melt even his bones to ash)
@@senjusan6359 that is true the only thing that makes this battle even more tricky is that if Muzan tried to absorb Sukuna would it work
There Is his fire arrow
sukuna destroys muzan
7:41 as soon as you said "bleach" i instantly became 352x more focused
I mean, to be fair, we haven't really seen Muzan's peak power yet since he was literally a million old before he realized that he was poisoned. So when he decided to finally go all out, that wasn't really his original "All out", but a weakened one compared to his previous peak form.
Sukuna stomps him low difficulty
Low diff bro it’s negative diff + verse