Kaveri engine if just pushed a little can replace engines of Rafael fighter with little more maintenance requirements. Don't know you feel happy about it given Rafael can be indiginised to this level or sad about it given Rafael fighter in raw form is not much impressive in today standard.
There is a report that it not only has thrust issues but also stalls during operation. It needs to be proved even to be used on training aircraft. But UCAV is another matter where thrust is not as much
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
This news made me happy. You shouldn't waste years of experience in the development of a Jet engine. One should never stop trying to develop new technology, failures are just part of the process and it shouldn't let anyone down.
I don't care if taxes that are paid by me are wasted on DRDO's failed project because it is far better then begging from Russia or any other foreign country. I agree whole heartedly.
Nobody is begging for this kind of aircraft or engine except Indian Air force. Don't denigrate country for inability of Indian Air Force to manage their own things.
@@saurabhade1079IAF begging count as Indian begging. Tu jaake engine ki bheek maangega, kya karega us engine ka, baithke chaand pe jayega? IAF, HAL, Indian cricket team everything which represents india, is considered as india. Dumb
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
GTRE has to increase the Wet Thrust by 15% only to match up with the GE engine and reducing 10% weight by using titanium like metals. The general arrangement of components is similar to the GE, RR and Snecma engines. So it is a great achievement by GTRE to come up to this level. Its important to produce fighter aircraft engines within the country and if it takes a couple of more years to get there, that's alright as the countries around India r using Russian engine versions.
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
@@MikeyDiff it's a misconception that only composites reduce weight. Besides engine parts will need metal of low weight but high strength. Besides higher thrust production also involves higher thermal endurance for which the blades in the core have to be of certain materials and produced using certain processes which India has only recently developed
@KumarK-xn5go It is a great achievement by GTRE. No doubt about it. GTRE must be knowing on using Titanium for weight reduction, that we needn't tell. What is unknown might be latest Technology of reducing the thermal gradient on turbine blades (so that they don't undergo change in their shape under heat). In the West they wrap them in a ceramic tape, it seems. That technology we have no access to. There are a few more other things that we don't know too.
@@MrPoornakumar we needn't tell them anything, that way. We r merely speculating and speaking positively about their achievements and feeling proud as a fellow Indian. Maybe from next time onwards we shud just watch the clip and keep mum? I don't think there's any fun in that now is there? Let's be a sport shall we?
US and Russia have spent billions to develop an engine, compared to them we have spend peanuts on Kaveri engine. India should persist with Kaveri development. Having our own engine for our jets should be the goal.
Ur absolutely right brother, we need more R&D if need to be self reliant on defence sector. The irony is this, no one is stepping in to support our R&D but wants results with remarkable results.
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
This is actually an Excellent news. This will also help GTRE in improving AL31 engine. This engine can find application in our STOBAR aircraft carriers as well.
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
Yes, we need indigenous engine research, whether it's for a fighter jet, aircraft carrier, tank or even a car. PERSONAL OPINION : Earlier aatmnirbhar bhaarat was a choice, now it's a necessity. A superpower cannot become a superpower on parts from others, cause u need just one incident for the house of parts to fall.
Wrong. Aaatmnirbhar Bhaarat is still a choice as you don't HAVE to try to become a superpower. It completely depends on a government's vision for the nation, so it only becomes a necessity if the government is aiming to become a superpower in the first place.
@@SpectZ-eu5zj well becoming a superpower isn't a choice. We are surrounded by hostile neighborhoods. We must be a superpower to not be trampled by anyone. It's not a choice anymore.
@@pradumankumar9763 That's just your "opinion". Why do you think no previous government tried to make India a superpower? Were we not surrounded by hostile nations earlier? You have to acknowledge the reality that it's nothing more than a choice for a government, even if you consider it necessary. Because it totally depends on a government's own vision for the nation. The most you can do is vote for the party that would do what you want to see happening.
That's true brother instead of begging of transfer. It is better to invest in DRDO and our Universities, make a hope that our students aspire for a future in defence research and development sector.
We should use kaveri with mig29..... RD33 and kaveri are similar in performance and power.... mig29 is double engine fighter, Hence safe to test.... RD33 is imported where kaveri is homemade and can end import dependence......
@@vishalchaudhary2710 Testing kar leni chahiye.... Mig 29 is good for testing kaveri...... test kaveri in mig29k navy so it can be used in tedbf if possible......
@@175gavitabhirajyashwant3this could have been done long time back. Some babus were bribed to Stoll this project. Now they are over ruled. These pests has to pay back the bribe money else gum naami gun man will be behind them.
I completely agree, R&D investments are strategic and very long term. I have been personally researching and reading about Kaveri and I too feel that we need to work on material sciences which is a niche lab based field and basically "hit & trial". If India can get it right, not only GTRE but many military and civilian applications of such materials can be applied and a whole new dimension of greater strength without weight penalty can be achieved. One such civilian application could be EVs who knows.
This is exactly what is required. DRDO is already going to use Dry Kaveri in its projects. If the afterburner version gets certified within a strict timeline with minimal investment, then greater application may be found. If minor metallurgical changes reduce the weight of the engine by 100 Kg or so, we might be able to make Tejas a truely indigenous fighter. That would be a great feat. Besides, Kaveri GTRE must be given 1 more chance to prove itself (after so much mismanagement on part of IAF, DRDO etc) before forsaking it for good. Not to mention the reduction in weight will automatically increase the output thrust.
Spending on research is never waste. We really need to change our mindsets. Also no matter how advanced our fighter design , the sensors and radars or the weaponry mounted on it , without our own engine we'll always be handicapped !
You are right sir, We should give it a try, there will be HF marut with kabri engine and 100% indigenous technology and weapons. And most important 100% private sector for manufacturing that. JAI HIND...
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
Engine development is a complex process, hence needs resources and time. If resources are given Kaveri engine can definitely come out with sufficient power sufficient enough to power LCA. If it is successful, it can be a game changer for Indian aviation industry as based on this experience more powerful engines can easily be developed for future aircrafts. Hence govt should provide enough resources to GTRE immediately.
Support GTRE. Govt. must fund the desi scientist for the research. Failures do happen but it provides lessons to learn & to improve in future. India still needs its very own Gas Turbine engine.
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Very Nice! I hope this expense gets express approval 👍I hope that HAL develops a twin engine (slightly bigger) variant for this engine with MK1A + Pods all integrated inside!
I support GTRE in developing indegenous technology as we need depend usa , russia ,france in future and having our own engine not obly helps reduce dependebce but also enables in house developmrnt , owning intellectual property but also maintain secrecy compared to other engines of otger countries.
nice initiative , well i hope that this engine should continue while also the expertise which we will gain from developing engine with france for amca can also be integrated later on which will help us later on if we want to further improve kaveri engine .Hope that funds are made available for kaveri engine as its our own engine , china spend billions of dollars in engine but they are still unable to make a reliable engine so engine development takes a long time depending on how much you want to improve it further .
@@burlatsdemontaigne6147 wrong comparison! F-16 has been around for decades . Initial models are not the same as present series . They have been continuously upgraded with latest technologies. In case of Kaveri , it has reached this stage after years of work. Also it has to to be remembered that Bharat have had no infrastructure to build such engines when the work started . Continuous improvement will one day get it to its “destination” . And also it would be Indian engine and not made in collaboration with or GE among others .
In 1950, India unveiled its indigenous jet, the 'Marut,' preceding other Asian nations. By the 1980s, the nation saw the rise of its semiconductor company, the Semiconductor Complex Limited (SCL). In 1987, SCL achieved a 0.8-micron semiconductor process, trailing just one generation behind industry leaders of the time (Intel, Toshiba). Remarkably, even the current leader TSMC had not yet come into existence. Regrettably, external pressures led to the discontinuation of these endeavors under the Congress government's mandate, reflecting the challenges faced in India's quest for technological self-sufficiency.
Yes certification is okay but ideally Kaveri model should be sold to one of the biggest and most reliable Indian defence companies in private sector like Tatas. Then let them develop it! I am sure they will produce a GE comparable engine in 3-5 years!
This is a big news! Kaveri can be used for LCA training version or for some export where such high thrust is not required or for routine CAP duties. Hope no further time is lost on this issue!!
भारत सरकार के हर मंत्रालय में ऐसे लोग भरे पड़े है जो भारत के अपनी प्रयासों को देरी करते हैं ओर खराब भी करती है। इन्हे आपने क्षमता पे भरोसा नहीं है ओर सफल होने पे सारा श्रेय अपना कहने में देर नहीं करती जैसा train 18 के साथ हुए हैं।
Absolutely Right. Investment in R&D is very much essential. Those who. Are expert now, also have invested hell a lot of money and resources in R&D over the years.
Its a big news but India should go for a balanced approach. It will take at leasr another 5 years to improve Kaveri to current minimum requirement..by that time this can be obsolete A foreign technology with agreement on technology transfer option can keep our fighter jets up to date and help in improving out r&d.
Rightly said in research and development, failure is part of the process itself. We can see how many SpaceX rockets were made and then launched but they failed to land back successfully before actually succeeding in perfecting the design..
Yes, I too agree with the katora wali thinking. Its obvio in R&D many things do fail and its fine. Considering Tejas and its 0 crashes/failures, we fail much lesser than many other countries.
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
Well said don't give money to other countries. Try and try until you succeed money hardly matters. R and D should be funded as much as they require, for our countries glory .
Dear sir your video was excellent on kaveri engine development I don't care if my taxe money's are vasted by DRDO & ISRO but my nation should not beg with any Europe nation for technology Jay HIND Jay javan Jai Kisan & last Jai vinganyan
Performance and improvement comes in increments and it must continue to add more muscles and brains to the existing base. We have wasted so many years waiting for the decision.
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With changed situation and time, with updation of engine it is possible to use the engine Kaveri. Any technology is also available with exposure to new engines also. Kaveri stands a good chance to succeed
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Kaveri can be used for training fighter purposes that can help both for understanding engine tech and investment in our own things
Wholly agree with you .
The new concept of HAL's Marut 2.0 may get this new engine to reduce costs.
Kaveri engine if just pushed a little can replace engines of Rafael fighter with little more maintenance requirements. Don't know you feel happy about it given Rafael can be indiginised to this level or sad about it given Rafael fighter in raw form is not much impressive in today standard.
There is a report that it not only has thrust issues but also stalls during operation. It needs to be proved even to be used on training aircraft. But UCAV is another matter where thrust is not as much
@@Krackjack1if funds are allocated, with 2 3 iteration they will be able to address those issues
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
This news made me happy. You shouldn't waste years of experience in the development of a Jet engine. One should never stop trying to develop new technology, failures are just part of the process and it shouldn't let anyone down.
If this is happening, this is really big
Really Really Big
This is big news
But till 2050. I have given up hope.
Hope it doesn't breakdown at midflight 😅
@@amodmishra3030Tera baap nahi Bana raha hai....issliye tension mat le jaldi ho jayega
I don't care if taxes that are paid by me are wasted on DRDO's failed project because it is far better then begging from Russia or any other foreign country. I agree whole heartedly.
Nobody is begging for this kind of aircraft or engine except Indian Air force. Don't denigrate country for inability of Indian Air Force to manage their own things.
@radeonblue1816
I fully agree.
@@saurabhade1079IAF begging count as Indian begging. Tu jaake engine ki bheek maangega, kya karega us engine ka, baithke chaand pe jayega? IAF, HAL, Indian cricket team everything which represents india, is considered as india. Dumb
@@saurabhade1079 Constructive criticism is very important. I am not denigrating my country and why should I do that??
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
सर आप की सोच बिल्कुल सही है आप की सोच हर भारतीय की सोच होनी चाहिए जयहिंद जय भारत
GTRE has to increase the Wet Thrust by 15% only to match up with the GE engine and reducing 10% weight by using titanium like metals. The general arrangement of components is similar to the GE, RR and Snecma engines. So it is a great achievement by GTRE to come up to this level. Its important to produce fighter aircraft engines within the country and if it takes a couple of more years to get there, that's alright as the countries around India r using Russian engine versions.
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
How are EJ200 and GE able to provide high thrust with low weight without composites?
@@MikeyDiff it's a misconception that only composites reduce weight. Besides engine parts will need metal of low weight but high strength. Besides higher thrust production also involves higher thermal endurance for which the blades in the core have to be of certain materials and produced using certain processes which India has only recently developed
@KumarK-xn5go
It is a great achievement by GTRE. No doubt about it. GTRE must be knowing on using Titanium for weight reduction, that we needn't tell. What is unknown might be latest Technology of reducing the thermal gradient on turbine blades (so that they don't undergo change in their shape under heat). In the West they wrap them in a ceramic tape, it seems. That technology we have no access to. There are a few more other things that we don't know too.
@@MrPoornakumar we needn't tell them anything, that way. We r merely speculating and speaking positively about their achievements and feeling proud as a fellow Indian. Maybe from next time onwards we shud just watch the clip and keep mum? I don't think there's any fun in that now is there? Let's be a sport shall we?
US and Russia have spent billions to develop an engine, compared to them we have spend peanuts on Kaveri engine. India should persist with Kaveri development. Having our own engine for our jets should be the goal.
Ur absolutely right brother, we need more R&D if need to be self reliant on defence sector.
The irony is this, no one is stepping in to support our R&D but wants results with remarkable results.
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
This is actually an Excellent news. This will also help GTRE in improving AL31 engine. This engine can find application in our STOBAR aircraft carriers as well.
Totally agree with you
Al31 don't have marine atmosphere capacity
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
Yes, we need indigenous engine research, whether it's for a fighter jet, aircraft carrier, tank or even a car.
PERSONAL OPINION : Earlier aatmnirbhar bhaarat was a choice, now it's a necessity. A superpower cannot become a superpower on parts from others, cause u need just one incident for the house of parts to fall.
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@@Notmethe01 nope bro house of PARTS, since we import lots of parts for various things.
Wrong. Aaatmnirbhar Bhaarat is still a choice as you don't HAVE to try to become a superpower. It completely depends on a government's vision for the nation, so it only becomes a necessity if the government is aiming to become a superpower in the first place.
@@SpectZ-eu5zj well becoming a superpower isn't a choice. We are surrounded by hostile neighborhoods. We must be a superpower to not be trampled by anyone. It's not a choice anymore.
@@pradumankumar9763 That's just your "opinion". Why do you think no previous government tried to make India a superpower? Were we not surrounded by hostile nations earlier?
You have to acknowledge the reality that it's nothing more than a choice for a government, even if you consider it necessary. Because it totally depends on a government's own vision for the nation. The most you can do is vote for the party that would do what you want to see happening.
Totally agree with you! Do the research and development, keep trying till the needed technology is archived. Jai Bharat 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳☝️😊
If this becomes reality, we would achieve major milestone in Defense sector.
Huge respect for those scientists who are working on mastering engine technology without much encouragement
That's true brother instead of begging of transfer. It is better to invest in DRDO and our Universities, make a hope that our students aspire for a future in defence research and development sector.
We should use kaveri with mig29..... RD33 and kaveri are similar in performance and power.... mig29 is double engine fighter, Hence safe to test.... RD33 is imported where kaveri is homemade and can end import dependence......
Mig 29 are supposed to retire by 2030-35
@@vishalchaudhary2710 Testing kar leni chahiye.... Mig 29 is good for testing kaveri...... test kaveri in mig29k navy so it can be used in tedbf if possible......
@@175gavitabhirajyashwant3this could have been done long time back. Some babus were bribed to Stoll this project. Now they are over ruled. These pests has to pay back the bribe money else gum naami gun man will be behind them.
@@vishalchaudhary2710if we really want we can just copy mig and make something similar
@@stairwaytoheaven1719 what about marut new variant hf 42?
Most satisfying development.
I completely agree, R&D investments are strategic and very long term. I have been personally researching and reading about Kaveri and I too feel that we need to work on material sciences which is a niche lab based field and basically "hit & trial". If India can get it right, not only GTRE but many military and civilian applications of such materials can be applied and a whole new dimension of greater strength without weight penalty can be achieved.
One such civilian application could be EVs who knows.
This is awesome news even if it takes 1 decade to make this possible i am all for it, we need core engine tech
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Jai Bharat Rashtra 🙏🙏🧡
This is exactly what is required. DRDO is already going to use Dry Kaveri in its projects. If the afterburner version gets certified within a strict timeline with minimal investment, then greater application may be found. If minor metallurgical changes reduce the weight of the engine by 100 Kg or so, we might be able to make Tejas a truely indigenous fighter. That would be a great feat. Besides, Kaveri GTRE must be given 1 more chance to prove itself (after so much mismanagement on part of IAF, DRDO etc) before forsaking it for good. Not to mention the reduction in weight will automatically increase the output thrust.
Spending on research is never waste. We really need to change our mindsets. Also no matter how advanced our fighter design , the sensors and radars or the weaponry mounted on it , without our own engine we'll always be handicapped !
Thanks young man happy to see this
Govt needs to seriously consider funding in GTRE Kaveri programme.
Karevi engine has many other uses in our current aero eco system
Hope next gen kaveri will produce 100+ kn power
सही जा रहे हो भाई जय जय महाराष्ट्र
Agreed ! Bharat must spend adequate dollars for research and development !!
I can really imagine how happy you could be❤❤
Kudos🎉 lets hope kaveri will perform well
You are right sir, We should give it a try, there will be HF marut with kabri engine and 100% indigenous technology and weapons. And most important 100% private sector for manufacturing that. JAI HIND...
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
Very good initiative, who did this please bring him or her .We must all proud of him or her.
Engine development is a complex process, hence needs resources and time. If resources are given Kaveri engine can definitely come out with sufficient power sufficient enough to power LCA. If it is successful, it can be a game changer for Indian aviation industry as based on this experience more powerful engines can easily be developed for future aircrafts. Hence govt should provide enough resources to GTRE immediately.
V Good analysis. I fully support your views, Sir.
अवश्य हमें कावेरी इंजन प्रोजेक्ट् को सपोर्ट और फंड करना चाहिए. एक दिन यह अवश्य परिणाम देगा जो बहुत सुखद होंगे. जय हिन्द 🇮🇳 🇮🇳
Anna thank you explained clear cut,
Support GTRE.
Govt. must fund the desi scientist for the research.
Failures do happen but it provides lessons to learn & to improve in future.
India still needs its very own Gas Turbine engine.
*Whatta Satisfying News* 😌
Edit :- *JAI HIND* 🇮🇳🙏
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Apko sunne m bahut mja ata h ..real information and real news ,faltu k prediction vali news nhi rhti ..gud work bro ...ese hi real and informative news k liy apko sadhuvad
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4:40 onwards badi gaheri baat kri apne subodh 👏👌je baaaat🎉🎉
Nicely said in the end 👍🏻 Jai Hind
Very Nice! I hope this expense gets express approval 👍I hope that HAL develops a twin engine (slightly bigger) variant for this engine with MK1A + Pods all integrated inside!
It's our own so we feel really proud of it... ( it's, capacity may be less but no matter in future we will definitely achieve it)
I support GTRE in developing indegenous technology as we need depend usa , russia ,france in future and having our own engine not obly helps reduce dependebce but also enables in house developmrnt , owning intellectual property but also maintain secrecy compared to other engines of otger countries.
The name is very justified. Amazing brother hood..... kisi ki nazar na lage
agree and i really like your analysis and approach
Aapki soch sahi. Hume har tarah se apni technology ko acha kerna chahiye. Ache logon ka politics mein aana jaruri hai. Sabse jaruri
nice initiative , well i hope that this engine should continue while also the expertise which we will gain from developing engine with france for amca can also be integrated later on which will help us later on if we want to further improve kaveri engine .Hope that funds are made available for kaveri engine as its our own engine , china spend billions of dollars in engine but they are still unable to make a reliable engine so engine development takes a long time depending on how much you want to improve it further .
My prayers are with the success of this experiment and especially with the brave pilots who will be tasked to fly it. HARI OM.
Sharmaji already joined the watsapp channel, and news feed are good one
अंत में आपने बहुत ही शानदार बात की
Great news. Thanks for sharing.
This is only genuine channel on defence updates i trust on TH-cam
सस्ते ड्रोन बनाने चाहिये
Wah wah great work thank u all ingeneyar
Akdom Sahi kaha apne👍👌
Bilkul sahi baat bola aapne subodh bhai last mein.... Mera bhi thinking waisa hi hai
It's a massive progress.
Kaveri engine at its present form can be always tweaked continuously for improvement . In time a fine engine will emerge .
You can't 'continuously tweak' old technology. A Tesla is not a 'tweaked' Model T Ford.
@@burlatsdemontaigne6147 wrong comparison! F-16 has been around for decades . Initial models are not the same as present series . They have been continuously upgraded with latest technologies. In case of Kaveri , it has reached this stage after years of work. Also it has to to be remembered that Bharat have had no infrastructure to build such engines when the work started . Continuous improvement will one day get it to its “destination” . And also it would be Indian engine and not made in collaboration with or GE among others .
In 1950, India unveiled its indigenous jet, the 'Marut,' preceding other Asian nations. By the 1980s, the nation saw the rise of its semiconductor company, the Semiconductor Complex Limited (SCL). In 1987, SCL achieved a 0.8-micron semiconductor process, trailing just one generation behind industry leaders of the time (Intel, Toshiba). Remarkably, even the current leader TSMC had not yet come into existence. Regrettably, external pressures led to the discontinuation of these endeavors under the Congress government's mandate, reflecting the challenges faced in India's quest for technological self-sufficiency.
Yes certification is okay but ideally Kaveri model should be sold to one of the biggest and most reliable Indian defence companies in private sector like Tatas. Then let them develop it! I am sure they will produce a GE comparable engine in 3-5 years!
This is a big news! Kaveri can be used for LCA training version or for some export where such high thrust is not required or for routine CAP duties. Hope no further time is lost on this issue!!
भारत सरकार के हर मंत्रालय में ऐसे लोग भरे पड़े है जो भारत के अपनी प्रयासों को देरी करते हैं ओर खराब भी करती है। इन्हे आपने क्षमता पे भरोसा नहीं है ओर सफल होने पे सारा श्रेय अपना कहने में देर नहीं करती जैसा train 18 के साथ हुए हैं।
Sure
सवाल भरोसे का नाही है भाई, मानसिकता है.
मंत्रियो को भारत मे technology चाहिए ही नाही थी. बाहार से खरिदाते time मलई मिलती है भाई😂
@@PopatMomu ek दम सही बात बोले...😃
भाई तो धोती खोल रहा है...😃😃🙋♂️😊
If we don’t fail, that means we are not working hard enough. Failures must be cherished as long its new and not repeated!
Bilkul sahi bole Resurch and Development me kharch to hoga hi, Age jake usaka fal milega, dur Drishtee, ❤
फाइनल बात बिल्कुल सही लगी
Means closer
जय हिंद
Shi bol rhe ho Bhai tum...hme other countries se engine TOT mangne ke wjaye Kaveri pr focus krna chahiye.jai Hind
Never give up India 👍🏽
Absolutely Right. Investment in R&D is very much essential. Those who. Are expert now, also have invested hell a lot of money and resources in R&D over the years.
Its a big news but India should go for a balanced approach.
It will take at leasr another 5 years to improve Kaveri to current minimum requirement..by that time this can be obsolete
A foreign technology with agreement on technology transfer option can keep our fighter jets up to date and help in improving out r&d.
Well said Sir 🙏
Rightly said in research and development, failure is part of the process itself. We can see how many SpaceX rockets were made and then launched but they failed to land back successfully before actually succeeding in perfecting the design..
Mein aapki soch ko salam karta hoon... Hume Kaveri Engine ke liye R&D mein aur kharcha karna chahiye
One of the best news 😊
Correct brother. R & D is extremely important for India now. No matter what the cost, India MUST develop its own engine.
Woohoo..news of the decade...Jai Bharat Mata
Yes Subodh, developing your own technology is lot better than begging for technology.
Indian fighter with Indian engine, bhai diwali ho gayi aaj❤
I hope it is so. If that happens I will be very happy for GTRE.
I am also a tex payer. I agree with what you said about begging for technology transfer. Well said. And so it arose.
Yes, I too agree with the katora wali thinking. Its obvio in R&D many things do fail and its fine. Considering Tejas and its 0 crashes/failures, we fail much lesser than many other countries.
Partial indigenisation is equal to no indigenisation because as long as you are using foreign equipments in your weapons, you directly or indirectly, giving the access of your entire radiography /position/electronic and IR signatures to supplier company and country. Particularly America like country has habit of doing espionage using weapons given to their allies. So if we were aspiring to be a formidable superpower in future, we have to have the entire indigenous product and our 90% of weapons should be fully indigenous. However, it seems that people sitting in MOD maybe working for their masters sitting in some other country like US/Pakistan/China who want to restrict India’s defence development and indigenisation. It is absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable that ministry or Air Force is not ready to give even one aircraft to GTRE or DRDO which can help us in crossing the paradigm of dependency. We have to understand and remember that defence dependency means your country is actually Not an independent country, it’s only a camouflage of freedom.
You are right, I agree with you.
मेरी सोच सिंपल है 😂। ये बहोत बढ़िया गुरु
MOD must look into the matter znd release funds even before certification ....
Well said don't give money to other countries. Try and try until you succeed money hardly matters. R and D should be funded as much as they require, for our countries glory .
Congratulations🎉🎉🎉
Dear sir your video was excellent on kaveri engine development I don't care if my taxe money's are vasted by DRDO & ISRO but my nation should not beg with any Europe nation for technology Jay HIND Jay javan Jai Kisan & last Jai vinganyan
Performance and improvement comes in increments and it must continue to add more muscles and brains to the existing base. We have wasted so many years waiting for the decision.
Jai hind🇮🇳🇮🇳
Bro you are a real patriot..
हम twin कावेरी इंजन use करके उससे बेहतर thrust पा सकते हैं, ख़ासकर tejas mk2 में। कृपया बताएँ अगर संभव है तो🙏🙏
I agree with you my dear friend, government must approv kaveri engine for LCA
Hope for the best
Full support ❤
Right you are ..
👌👌👌 Katora lekar khadey hona bahut saare logon ke agenda mein fit hota hai.
Very rightly said
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With changed situation and time, with updation of engine it is possible to use the engine Kaveri. Any technology is also available with exposure to new engines also. Kaveri stands a good chance to succeed
Jay Hind ❤ Bhai
Totally agreed with you
We need some technical experts to complete such crucial technology development instead to look out for tot