@salil panwar are kidding me? 60 year old technology and technology advancements over period of time. Believe me If it was easy lot of countries would've done it. Only few have mastered it yet
@salil panwar hahah. Criticizing someone is way to much easy. I'm saying again if it was easy lot of nation would have did it already. In 50s India have different set of challenge. Priority was to feed people than to develop net engine.
@salil panwar The first jet engine powered flight happened in 1939 just after the WWII started. 1960 saw the beginning of crystal blade tech. Single crystal came in 1974. So where is India behaving stupid for last 70 years as you say ? And where is Neheru coming into picture? I hate Neheru from the bottom of my heart for many reasons - one of them being HAL MARUT case. But I don't appreciate someone abusing India unjustifiably which was impoverished by the British and comparing her to USA who gained the most from WWI and is an independent nation for more than 200 years.
I am confidence we can achieve if government divert proper resources towards GTRE. It is one of the important critical technology which we need to master.
How easily u described the complexities of engineering challenge. It's so easy once you watch the whole video again. Please don't shy away to elaborate more. You can compete the world's premier developers of engineering marvels to provide detailed analysis of their own work.
I think we are just not trying enough! Make it a national project! Give it as importance as it was given to nuclear weapons. Or maybe they are on it, but no telling us in public domain.
I don't think India should even try to manufacture jet engines. At the scale that we require it's not a viable project. Unless we need 5000 engines in the near term the cost of manufacture + R&D will be overwhelming.
@@r8rdarklord bro this project is not under a private company. Do you think government companies really care about viability and product of scales. Hell No! It will be a strategic asset of India just like nukes!! They have already spent millions on it.
@@rangpo8935 It has nothing to do with private or public. It has to do with cost of the component - this is the reason why IAF has been dragging its feet when it comes to buying Tejas Mk1A. The fact is that at lower production rates the cost of fighter jets escalate to levels where the same money can buy much better fighter jets. India is not the US, it has a limited budget & a very large force to feed. They can't afford to keep pouring money on science experiments.
@Abhishek Kathiat Yes, we will be dependent so what? We don't manufacture car engines either except for some in very limited measures. That has not stopped us from developing motor vehicles. Our focus should be to manufacture an LCA comparable to Gripen NG, trying to do too many things at the same time will result in a mediocre fighter jet. This will give IAF the excuse to reject indigenous fighter jet & go for imports.
@Abhishek Kathiat You can disagree all you want but what has been stated is an engineering fact. For low volumes, one doesn't manufacture every component but concentrate on strategic ones & do it well - the idea is to create a world-class fighter jet, which can take on the best from China & Pakistan. During combat, nobody cares how many indigenous components your fighter jet has.
India can master jet engine technology indigenously in next 7 year's , if government invest 2 billion dollars in creating required infrastructure for test and research and development , and double the number of scientists
India should build testing facilities and government should spend more in testing redesign and testing . limited testing because of lack of test facility is the big problem.this is basic ,mannj don't know why the hell India spend 2300 crore for t72 tank while relevant to spend on test facility which will not event cost that much which would save lakhs of crore 🧐
Wah Amit Bhai, please continue to leas this kaveri engine related developments aspects and status update. Comparator's to technical inputs are apt.1. Association with safran, Pratt and Whitney 2. Involvement of private players 3. experts form industry who are available and ready to help us includes ones like like toy can do great job. Jai hind
Most of the Pakistanis will nt understand dis video ,,,, dey only know Alhamdulillah reheman e rahim Pakistan jangi jadeed technology ka hamil hai allaha k rehem o karam se humne jet engine bnaya aur jf 17 bnaya
Europe and USA team definitely having high level Commitment and Coordinated team. We also badly need this attitude. I have experienced this difference in Indians. Need sincere commitment from all different department of specialists. Like all togther should share same room, dinning room so that can understand each others strong points and weaknesses and accordingly they can catch the weaknesses in their project. In One project One (combined brains) brain can make difference and not too many diversions.
I respect your hard work. Till what time we can expect Kaveri with dry thrust more than 80 kn. And that also a stable in high altitude and not with issues in core. By 2021 is it possible to achieve.
really good information. I was watching some other video as well where it has been mentioned that design wise everything is good but the material needed to sustain the temperatures is not with us and seems like there is a special material that western companies have and of course not willing to share.
I like Rolls-Royce engine stats the most powerful yet efficient we must collaborate with them not only for this engine but for 6th gen tempest fighter too
Hi Amit, your videos are just fantastic...I had a question on the commercial application of Turbofan engine.will the Kaveri engine and HTFE 25 be used for Turboprop or High Bypass Turbofan application for commercial jets..Also how much thrust can be expected from a 52KN low bypass engine when converted to Commercial high Bypass engine..how does the calculation work...
Mathmetically dry thrust : wet thrust ratio is 1:1.6. or less in EJ200 and others. Why is GTRE going for a higher ratio of 1:1.8 ? Will it be better for gtre to go for a 60/95KN and a 78:120kn thrust engine ?
Biggest problem is manufacturing of crystal blades, few months ago I think DRDO developed crystal blades for rotor for helicopter. This will give some experience in process of making Crystal blades for Jet engine. In 2-3 years DRDO can build but it will require 6-7K crore from government.
Amit bhai.. Can increase in Bypass Ratio (for availing more cooling to reduce heat stress on LT,HT and overall Hot Core) and addition of 7th HP Compression Stage help theoretically to put K9 somewhere between 404 and 414? Has this been the modification in K9+ or K10 core? Can u shed some light on this?
Isro help, foreign players participation like France/ Japan & private sector participation & finally government properly funding the project will surely get us a great engine. The costs can be partially recovered by selling ot to other friendly countries in competition to GEF414
It seems to me that by changing the design of the blade and the blade which remains in steady state. Extra thrust can be taken by turning it in the opposition and snaking the blade.
Really hope that we are able to resuscitate the Kaveri K9 by improving it's hot core and material design with the help of Safran, which could hopefully use the plough back amount that is to be reinvested in India as a part of the 50% rule in the Rafale's acquisition of ₹59,000 crore. If that is unworkable, then we should leave Kaveri K9 as it is, and simply think of it as a sunk cost in trying to understand jet engine technology for our GTRE scientists. We should then fully commit ourselves to the brand new 110/120/130 KN joint venture jet engine with RR or Safran, and try to bring it to life within 5-6 years of starting out. Jai Hind. 🇮🇳✊🏼
Hi Amit We all know that prett & whiteney's jet engine which is fitted in the F-35 is modern marvel of engineering world.. pls dedicate a spacial video on this topic....
Thanks for the video.It is about kaveri engine but there is no comparison. There is a vast difference in the dia and length and weight of these engines. Can u compare all the engines dia,length etc. One more thing that we want to know is when we are going to put SCB into kaveri replacing the current DS blades. Why till now we are not able to put them. I just saw some years back that kaveri bypass ratio has gone to .22 but still there is old news circulating.
We need to work two core issue . One is the alloys and other is core of kaveri . Even need to work on weight once you use advanced alloys we will automatically reduce weight .
Video suggestion - I read a news where they were criticising India's Saras mk2 program, arguing that instead of developing a new 19 seater we should opt for licensed production of improved version of 19 seater Dornier aircraft. Can we have video on this matter? Thanks in advance
Sir 3-4 April ko jo kupwara Ancounter huaa tha Jisme Hamare Para Sf ke 5 commando sheed hua the uspe pura Video Banao ye kyu huaa esa Humara big loss hai sir ye
Compare the specs of F404 and Kaveri K9, GTRE is almost there! K9 is better than F404 in some ways i.e. Lower Pressure ratio and Lower Turbine Inlet Temperature means lower maintenance and better life, and Lower SFC means better mileage; While using not-so-advanced parts! Go, Go GTRE! One more thing, please show how all these compare to F-35A's P&W F-135 engine, as it is almost equally sized to Kaveri and F404
Sir...This one video..please give English translation for this...Only for this one video sir...many people like me are awaiting for this comparison but language problem sir...🙏🙏🙏🙏 Or Just upload the same video but with english narration sir...
Can India develop a commercial turbofan engine for commercial variant of future Saras aircraft from dry core of Kaveri Engine ? This can give a boost to Indian Aviation sector.
India ko engine ke field me revolution lana chahiye ek bade level par engine ke r&d par rs kharch karna chahiye private sector ko bhi sath lena chahiye. Ek akeli company ke liye ye sab muskil hoga.
I was waiting for this jet engines comparison, nice explanation
I think they're really close. Maybe if they give this a fresh start from scratch they'll make it. Jai Hind.
From scratch? Like restarting a computer?
Yeah they still are not able to make the heat core suitable enough for a desired jet engine.
I hope that they make it soon
And who's gonna pay for it developing a technology form scratch cost millions of dollars yet India can't face another huge lose
Kaveri not even close to least advanced small engine of cold war era, RD33.
Turbofans are so-so hard to develop. So far India did tremendous job in such a little budget.
Exactly......GE has spent billions to achieve the status where they are.
@salil panwar are kidding me?
60 year old technology and technology advancements over period of time.
Believe me If it was easy lot of countries would've done it.
Only few have mastered it yet
@salil panwar hahah.
Criticizing someone is way to much easy.
I'm saying again if it was easy lot of nation would have did it already.
In 50s India have different set of challenge.
Priority was to feed people than to develop net engine.
@salil panwar The first jet engine powered flight happened in 1939 just after the WWII started. 1960 saw the beginning of crystal blade tech. Single crystal came in 1974. So where is India behaving stupid for last 70 years as you say ? And where is Neheru coming into picture? I hate Neheru from the bottom of my heart for many reasons - one of them being HAL MARUT case. But I don't appreciate someone abusing India unjustifiably which was impoverished by the British and comparing her to USA who gained the most from WWI and is an independent nation for more than 200 years.
@salil panwar I'm not denying the blunders done by Congress.
All I was saying we had different priorities then and now.
I am confidence we can achieve if government divert proper resources towards GTRE.
It is one of the important critical technology which we need to master.
How easily u described the complexities of engineering challenge. It's so easy once you watch the whole video again. Please don't shy away to elaborate more. You can compete the world's premier developers of engineering marvels to provide detailed analysis of their own work.
Such a detailed video bhai
I hope GTRE can overcome these difficulties in near future 😊🇮🇳
Nah there funding is very less.
Less than a budget of Bollywood film 😒
I think we are just not trying enough! Make it a national project! Give it as importance as it was given to nuclear weapons.
Or maybe they are on it, but no telling us in public domain.
I don't think India should even try to manufacture jet engines. At the scale that we require it's not a viable project. Unless we need 5000 engines in the near term the cost of manufacture + R&D will be overwhelming.
@@r8rdarklord bro this project is not under a private company. Do you think government companies really care about viability and product of scales.
Hell No!
It will be a strategic asset of India just like nukes!! They have already spent millions on it.
@@rangpo8935 It has nothing to do with private or public. It has to do with cost of the component - this is the reason why IAF has been dragging its feet when it comes to buying Tejas Mk1A.
The fact is that at lower production rates the cost of fighter jets escalate to levels where the same money can buy much better fighter jets. India is not the US, it has a limited budget & a very large force to feed. They can't afford to keep pouring money on science experiments.
@Abhishek Kathiat Yes, we will be dependent so what? We don't manufacture car engines either except for some in very limited measures. That has not stopped us from developing motor vehicles. Our focus should be to manufacture an LCA comparable to Gripen NG, trying to do too many things at the same time will result in a mediocre fighter jet. This will give IAF the excuse to reject indigenous fighter jet & go for imports.
@Abhishek Kathiat You can disagree all you want but what has been stated is an engineering fact. For low volumes, one doesn't manufacture every component but concentrate on strategic ones & do it well - the idea is to create a world-class fighter jet, which can take on the best from China & Pakistan. During combat, nobody cares how many indigenous components your fighter jet has.
Great explanation of parameters, Amit. Keep it up!
Thank you for providing such a complicated matter in a simple way....Salute to you for great explanation..... Keep it up bro....
India can master jet engine technology indigenously in next 7 year's , if government invest 2 billion dollars in creating required infrastructure for test and research and development , and double the number of scientists
India should build testing facilities and government should spend more in testing redesign and testing . limited testing because of lack of test facility is the big problem.this is basic ,mannj don't know why the hell India spend 2300 crore for t72 tank while relevant to spend on test facility which will not event cost that much which would save lakhs of crore 🧐
Just a billion dollars is enough for the engine complete design and development. Thanks
@@maheshshah7570 bro billion is slightly low when you want world class engine , because you also need cost effective manufacturing and overhaul time
@@dineshvasu5938 thanks
There are 20 to 30 thousands scientists in defence..They are just sleeping..They will only need will power to make..Not anything
Wah Amit Bhai, please continue to leas this kaveri engine related developments aspects and status update. Comparator's to technical inputs are apt.1. Association with safran, Pratt and Whitney 2. Involvement of private players 3. experts form industry who are available and ready to help us includes ones like like toy can do great job. Jai hind
Most of the Pakistanis will nt understand dis video ,,,, dey only know Alhamdulillah reheman e rahim Pakistan jangi jadeed technology ka hamil hai allaha k rehem o karam se humne jet engine bnaya aur jf 17 bnaya
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jf 17 can beat f22 raptor
@@dhruvpatel8793 other planet fighter too
@@peregrinefalcon4514 it's 10th generation fighter plane
@@dhruvpatel8793 also can reach and land on pluto in just 30 seconds..
That was very precise and informative. Waiting for the day of success.
Europe and USA team definitely having high level Commitment and Coordinated team. We also badly need this attitude. I have experienced this difference in Indians. Need sincere commitment from all different department of specialists. Like all togther should share same room, dinning room so that can understand each others strong points and weaknesses and accordingly they can catch the weaknesses in their project. In One project One (combined brains) brain can make difference and not too many diversions.
Mod needs to allocate proper budget like foreign countries then new engine will be ready shortly.
You have hit the nail on the head. A consortium is needed . The ISRO and private players should be roped in . And we don't have much time.
I respect your hard work.
Till what time we can expect Kaveri with dry thrust more than 80 kn. And that also a stable in high altitude and not with issues in core. By 2021 is it possible to achieve.
Atleast 8-10 years
I appreciate your superior explanation for turbofan engine. I hope that India succeed in developing your indigenous engine. From South Korea.
How did you understand anything he said ? Do you know Hindi ?
GaZaB bhai gAzAB.. ab to mujhe paisa mile to mai bhi bana sakta hoon apna engine...😊😊😊😊😎😎😎😎
IsRO's involvement will definitely help DRDO to make a reliable and durable engine with adequate thrust.
Ghanta, both things are different
That's why this is best defence channel
We must develop fighter jet engine at any cost.
@salil panwar haven't we already achieved that? I m not sure
@@nachiketkulkarni8540 are u Adv Nachiket Kulkarni?
@salil panwar we single crystal blade but don't have heat resistant material and ventilation holes making technology
Yes! At Any Cost
Pehle DRDO ventilators banle!
even Pakistanis would have liked this video. thanks Amit bhai for your neat explanation and stupendous effort.
Thank u sir for the most important information in detail
Hope GTRE surely devlop a turbofan engine in 2years.
Respected Sir, Shree Amit Jee, Your Comprehensive Fastidious Sensory Analysis make Me Your Aficionado 🌞🏹🎯
Apne guru Shashi Tharoor ko mera pranam khna😂😂😂
Much awaited video ...Good work ...Keep it up ...👍👌
Keep doing the good work
really good information. I was watching some other video as well where it has been mentioned that design wise everything is good but the material needed to sustain the temperatures is not with us and seems like there is a special material that western companies have and of course not willing to share.
One of the best explanation
Thank you amit bhai special request per comparison karne ke liye
Very good video bhai simplified information ... Thanx for update .... Keep informed about kaveri
90% done,
Need some more push from government and ISRO to join the project...🇮🇳🇮🇳
Very educative video brother. Thanks a lot.
I like Rolls-Royce engine stats the most powerful yet efficient we must collaborate with them not only for this engine but for 6th gen tempest fighter too
U ud be surprised to know that RR had offered us a JV with us for Marut. But thanks to our gov, we didn't took the offer.
Nice explaination ... quality content
Me sone jaa rha tha... Par ye video aaya aur me nhi soya....keep doing the graet work..... And please make a video on AMCA
Bahut mehnat karte ho bhai. Very good
Keya huya 20 April ki video TH-cam ne q delete kr di????? Mai ne dekh ni payi...
Hi Amit, your videos are just fantastic...I had a question on the commercial application of Turbofan engine.will the Kaveri engine and HTFE 25 be used for Turboprop or High Bypass Turbofan application for commercial jets..Also how much thrust can be expected from a 52KN low bypass engine when converted to Commercial high Bypass engine..how does the calculation work...
Mathmetically dry thrust : wet thrust ratio is 1:1.6. or less in EJ200 and others. Why is GTRE going for a higher ratio of 1:1.8 ? Will it be better for gtre to go for a 60/95KN and a 78:120kn thrust engine ?
Very much informative in nature. Thanks
Good work...
Tum mari mon ki bat ka sa jan la ta Ooo. You r so good .. Explain this TEC.. And deeper discussion ..in videos..
Bro
Can HAL fit safran's M88 Engine in Tejas mk1A instead of GE 404 engine since US refusing to supply engine to us
Pl reply bro
Very informative,thank you.
Awesome Video Bro, nice informative one
You have shown dry/wet thrust for Kaveri 51/81 and GE 404 as 49/79. Does that mean Kaveri performance is better than GE 404?
Biggest problem is manufacturing of crystal blades, few months ago I think DRDO developed crystal blades for rotor for helicopter. This will give some experience in process of making Crystal blades for Jet engine. In 2-3 years DRDO can build but it will require 6-7K crore from government.
Excellent video
Bhai kaveri kab tak complete hoga
Nice description 👍
Amit bhai..
Can increase in Bypass Ratio (for availing more cooling to reduce heat stress on LT,HT and overall Hot Core) and addition of 7th HP Compression Stage help theoretically to put K9 somewhere between 404 and 414?
Has this been the modification in K9+ or K10 core?
Can u shed some light on this?
Need more budget to implement that
Thanks for this video .
Very well explained.. !
Thank you for this video:)
All people pls ask AMIT to help, Kaveri engine team......those agree pls retweet
Nicely explained
Isro help, foreign players participation like France/ Japan & private sector participation & finally government properly funding the project will surely get us a great engine. The costs can be partially recovered by selling ot to other friendly countries in competition to GEF414
Very informative, coin remains at metallurgy.
Engineer bhai
Next engine tum hi banaoge.
It seems to me that by changing the design of the blade and the blade which remains in steady state. Extra thrust can be taken by turning it in the opposition and snaking the blade.
yea its best to take it as prototype and start working on k10 version with addition combustion stages
In short, the main problems are- material composition & design.
Engine scratch se banane aur proper testing karne pe ek video, and also how to remove our engine test dependency from Russian to ourself?
Really hope that we are able to resuscitate the Kaveri K9 by improving it's hot core and material design with the help of Safran, which could hopefully use the plough back amount that is to be reinvested in India as a part of the 50% rule in the Rafale's acquisition of ₹59,000 crore.
If that is unworkable, then we should leave Kaveri K9 as it is, and simply think of it as a sunk cost in trying to understand jet engine technology for our GTRE scientists.
We should then fully commit ourselves to the brand new 110/120/130 KN joint venture jet engine with RR or Safran, and try to bring it to life within 5-6 years of starting out.
Jai Hind. 🇮🇳✊🏼
GTRE ahead of over suggestions😮
What is the difference between K9 and K10 engines?
Hi Amit
We all know that prett & whiteney's jet engine which is fitted in the F-35 is modern marvel of engineering world.. pls dedicate a spacial video on this topic....
Bhai video ki to baad mei baat hogi phle ye batao raat ke 1:19 am par kaun video upload krta hai??🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
upload speed kam hoyegi raat ko laga ke so jata hoga
Very nice video
When will get our required engine ⁉️🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for the video.It is about kaveri engine but there is no comparison. There is a vast difference in the dia and length and weight of these engines. Can u compare all the engines dia,length etc. One more thing that we want to know is when we are going to put SCB into kaveri replacing the current DS blades. Why till now we are not able to put them. I just saw some years back that kaveri bypass ratio has gone to .22 but still there is old news circulating.
We need to work two core issue .
One is the alloys and other is core of kaveri .
Even need to work on weight once you use advanced alloys we will automatically reduce weight .
Kaveri K10 engine 125kn thrust par v ek vid banado bhai
Kam height pe thrust jyada hota h kyuki oxygen jyada milta hai fuel burn krne k liye par drag bhi jyada hota hai
Video suggestion - I read a news where they were criticising India's Saras mk2 program, arguing that instead of developing a new 19 seater we should opt for licensed production of improved version of 19 seater Dornier aircraft.
Can we have video on this matter?
Thanks in advance
Amiet bhai,
Dunia mein thrust vectoring engines kin countries ke pass hai ???
We need to invest more money and Telanted manpower in it. Together we will win
Why do not we start a engine making from 25kn and then increase slowly slowly like Japan did.
Naam tho suna hi hoga "amit".
Hello brother.
force is equal to change in momentum not velocity...momentum = mv
Sir 3-4 April ko jo kupwara Ancounter huaa tha Jisme Hamare Para Sf ke 5 commando sheed hua the uspe pura Video Banao ye kyu huaa esa Humara big loss hai sir ye
Compare the specs of F404 and Kaveri K9, GTRE is almost there!
K9 is better than F404 in some ways i.e. Lower Pressure ratio and Lower Turbine Inlet Temperature means lower maintenance and better life, and Lower SFC means better mileage; While using not-so-advanced parts!
Go, Go GTRE!
One more thing, please show how all these compare to F-35A's P&W F-135 engine, as it is almost equally sized to Kaveri and F404
Maza aa gya bhai...
One question is TEDBF program really in progress?
Sir...This one video..please give English translation for this...Only for this one video sir...many people like me are awaiting for this comparison but language problem sir...🙏🙏🙏🙏
Or
Just upload the same video but with english narration sir...
Kon kon chahta sir ek physics ka channel bhi open kre 🥺🥺🥺🥺plz like for movement 👇👍
Do India manufacture fan blades or import?
Thanks amit.
Can India develop a commercial turbofan engine for commercial variant of future Saras aircraft from dry core of Kaveri Engine ? This can give a boost to Indian Aviation sector.
You have different height in knowlege videos on defence. Whats your Idea for future jet engine. Regards.
What is music?
Bro can there be tot for engine along with core under mmrca
Sabse pehle kam power Ka chota engine banana chaiye jise ghatak jan doosre uav main test karna chaiye Jaise Japan ne Kia hai
The compression part is the most important part in a engine. Rest is not that hard
Why can't we use RREJ-200 for Tejus
Can v use bramhose ram jet engine in aircraft
what about japan's engine ??
India ko engine ke field me revolution lana chahiye ek bade level par engine ke r&d par rs kharch karna chahiye private sector ko bhi sath lena chahiye. Ek akeli company ke liye ye sab muskil hoga.