How to INDUSTRIALIZE in Victoria 3's EARLY Game
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0:00 Intro
5:39 Basic Strategy
19:57 Construction
30:45 Peasants
40:37 Capitalists
53:38 Agrarian Exceptions
58:05 Trade & Tech
1:06:30 Summary
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So the fix seems to have scuffed a couple of the transitions - I think people would prefer I just leave the scuffed transitions rather than take it down and try to fix it (again).
Dude you gotta make your videos shorter. it is not making sense to spend one and an half hour to learn industrializing which can be explained in 4-5 minutes.
@@kuzeydurna6605I highly disagree, learning the intricacies of the game is quite literally the best thing about the game. Also there is no way you can explain everything in 5 minutes
@@kuzeydurna6605 that's exactly the point of the summary at the end
@@kuzeydurna6605 wrong, it makes sense when you have an attention span longer than 5 minutes.
@@kuzeydurna6605 there's a lot of other creators you can watch short videos that are 4-5 minutes long that don't explain anything and just tell you some random bullshit
Generalist: "you need to get rid of peasants, because..."
Mao: "say no more. I get the idea"
LMAO
@@solinvictus2045 MAO prolly was the only one Laughing, true lol
Ahah ngl MAO really did manage his economy like a new Vic 3 player.
Went too hard into industry early and forgot to focus on low level production first.
@@solinvictus2045 L Mao moment
@@ExplosiveLandmine hahahaa
bro please keep making these type of videos. Vic 3 actually has a lot of complex nuances to it and people like you allow the community to communicate and learn all the mechanics of the game. Unlike other paradox games which have tonnes of TH-camrs, I think you are probably one of the only TH-camrs that actually deeply explain and talk about the advanced mechanics of vic 3.
Thanks, will do!
Immersioneer is pretty good. He has Let's Learn Vic 3 series but still not as in depth as Generalist especially in economy
Gotta be my favorite Victoria 3 content creator. Thanks for the guide
I think it's in part because he understands that the game is an economic simulation.
Yes. This is very different from other paradox games minus EU4 maybe. Keep up the great content. Paradox should be sponsoring this guy if not already.
@@Strategist_Ronan Absolutely.
Same here
me if I was Yoda gaming (my name is Yoda gaming (book backward is koob hahaha!))
Come for the Vicky 3 tutorial, stay for the amazing spreadsheet. Amazing video as usual!
Thank you!
13:00 when I woke up today, I didn't expect I would hear someone describe Alabama as "rainbow"
Alabamans might not like it, but this is what peak rainbow looks like
No wonder I always just get to a certain point in the game where my economy falls off a cliff and I lag behind like crazy, never put this much thought into it. Thank you big time for this guide.
I binged quite a few of your videos over the past few days. Your content and sense of humor are excellent. Thank you for sharing your insightful analyses of the Victoria 3 metagame; they are greatly appreciated!
Glad you like them!
I have to say, the pre-spreadsheet PSA is one of my favourite running gags on all of TH-cam. So good!
after 200 hours, im still learning this game.. im starting to get it now n enjoying this game more than at the beginning. this channel helps so much!
Yeah, I definitely think the game gets more enjoyable as you understand it better.
Arumba spread sheet addict but for Vicky 3. Appreciate all the work put into the video.
Awesome stuff. Will definitely have to watch this and take a lot of notes on the weekend. Getting used to 1.5 after not playing since like... 1.1? 1.2? a LOT has changed.
1.5's local prices is, full stop, the most substantive change so far
Great video - thanks for putting it together, I was watching it when you first put it up but then you took it down so glad to see it back again!
Glad you enjoyed it! Had to pull it down because 60% of it was blurry
nice too see the rerender was faster than expected, thanks for the content
I was wondering about the reason. The video was yoinked while i was watching lol.
Thank god for these videos. They've helped me so much.
Dude these are fantastic guides, thank you! Was enjoying the game but definitely felt like i was not understanding a lot of the deeper complecxity. These have helped tremendously.
Glad I could help!
I love to see how some people put thought and time into things like this, and I am fascinated by how informed and thoughtful you are about this game. Great video, thank you for educating me.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic guide! Can't wait for the mid- and late-game ones!
Glad you enjoyed!
Thank you for creating insightful content about Vicky 3. I've been playing Vicky 3 since its release last year. I always watch your video to improve my gameplay and your video helps me a lot to understand the game. Also, my fave country is Japan because of your Japan walkthrough about Meiji resto and 200 cons in 20 years haha. Keep up the great work man!
On release this game was so stupid easy. I still remember my first time playing. I picked Transvaal, became protectorate of the British, and than proceeded to become the number 1 world economy with an insane amount of territory in like 50 years. All off of tools lol. Now they just need to fix some minor things like the “populating the Americas” journal entry.
Thanks for making these tutorials, this really helps with the Vic3 learning curve.
they arent helping me & ive watched him for a year
Glad you like them!
@@Thunder103093 I think that says more about you, than it does about him..
idk abt you but they help me@@Thunder103093
Damn this vid remins me of my economic lectures. Really appreciate your effort in making the spreadsheet and explaining Vic3 mechanics
You're welcome!
Really appreciate your deep and detailed Victoria videos! Keep up the good work and thank you.
Greetings from Berlin
Glad you like them!
This is such an impressive video and very helpful in understanding how the economy really works in this game
Great video, thanks for the guide!
Thank you for the best guides
Amazing video, really helps to get into the game!
Glad I could help!
Finally i will know how to play until next big update. Thanks for video.
I'd also appreciate some military advice, because i don't know how to win wars without massive superiority and don't understand how general's bonuses work.
Great vid! I'm now getting to the point where I'm running out of peasants and getting stuck so hope to see a tutorial on that soon!
Great video! Your content and the free weekend made me pickup the game :)
A lot of time you focus on boosting the capitalists and industries, but are there alternate strategies to play countries that are fun/somewhat competitive?
excellent, just what I was looking for :D
The best Vick 3 guide creator!
Great video! Really helpful and no padding. 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Ah thanks for the updated strategy I was trying the entire "throughput" strategy of pre 1.5 and it was so hard to push progress. Also when the AI is building things everywhere it felt bad but technically its good. One thing I noticed (not done your video yet) but the consumer purchasing goods benefit from MAPI given high throughput at one place and they will buy them anyway with the increased price in other states. This results in a slightly lower SOL in those other states with more spending but could be mitigated by having their own industry. Like furniature in one place but clothes in another.
Love your content your are amazing! Please make more Victoria PHD series.
Excellent video! Never knew the base of capitalists was 20% vs 10%.
Fantastic tutorial, very detailed. I personally like that is very long, there are already plenty of short tutorials on yt.
Glad it was helpful!
a lot of this nuance is easy to miss, great video
Thanks for watching!
Generalist being the beast in the sheets... Excel sheets
This was excellent!
Thank you!
This is one of the most effective teaching videos I’ve seen for a Paradox game.
Thank you!
You're a goddamn BEAST. Thanks for this video.
Amazing video, thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Idk if the game changed since you posted the video but Hokkaido is actually great for attracting pops because it fires around 2 events of gold being found. I had it at like 44 desire with attract migrants. And with most of Japan's states being quite overcrowded, it's actually really easy to get a few mil there in the first 15 years or so if you get lucky on opening borders.
great vid, watched it twice, can you do some vids about how to deal with turmoil?
Just got this game via Humble Bundle & I'm loving it! I'm usually a FPS gamer never strategy & your videos have really helped me get immersed deeper into the game's mechanics.
Glad you like them!
Great guide, learned a lot even as a more experienced player
Glad to hear it!
Rather than saying 'fake money fake goods', I think another way to look at subsistence farmers is that they consume 90% of their own output, so it's much harder to profit from their labour.
These explanation videos are helping a lot. Coming from Hearts of Iron 4, I didn't expect the simulation to be this deep when I first started playing so it was really frustrating. Now I've gone from 7 or 8 failures in 4 hours to actually having an economy survive for 4 hours. Soon I'll progress to loading and continuing a saved game 🤣
ah yes, vicky 3, the game where it is essentially a collage course
I'm serious, it was easier for me to learn how to code in Java
@@alphaundpinsel2431 Java isn't that hard tbh 😂
@@diewott1337 learning a coding language should not be easier than learning a game
Great video! Is your excel spreadsheet available anywhere? I find it fascinating.
I am learning this game, and your explanations are helping me a lot! Do you have those spreadsheets available to the public? I would love to take a look into it!
Thanks for this. I've been trying to play Japan as my first post 1.5 game, and its unique challenges along with the changes have led to me stalling out a lot more quickly than I had in my previous games. Hopefully the next restart will be the one that takes off.
Good luck!
Very nice guide! Just started playing the game and I’m addicted lol
Definitely got a lot of depth!
You must be some sort of teacher. Awesome guide!
I taught chess at afterschool programs for a couple years
I actually learned quite a bit here. I am playing the United States and am wondering when is a good time to build up the military to deal with Mexico. I am going to start again using things I learned here but is there a good time line to start adding a few barracks and government and railroads in? Thanks.
Love your videos, helps me a lot as recently i go hooked into vic3. However, is there a chance to get a tutorial (pardon me if there was one about this topic already) about infrastructure, railroads and electricity? It just pains me a lot that i must sponsor these out of my pockets, only because wages are too low and nobody want to work there (or i am doing something wrong, thus why i would like a video related to these mechanics).
Great new intro!
Glad you think so!
Thank you, industrialised Hannibal
You’re welcome!
thanks really useful!
Glad it was helpful!
Can you share these spreadsheets? These are great man
Wow the in betph explanationa about economy! AMAZING, have you trouth about runing for real country and workng in managing countries budgets??
I thing you really CAN DO IT!
In order to make a difrence
Thank you
With a 1+ hour video i thought you are strechting this topic to much out. But then i realized you are already comprimizing alot, this is great content thank you!
I swear to god I try to make my tutorials shorter rather than longer xD
comment for the algorithm; very informative walkthrough
Based
Given how inefficient mines are before you get the tier 2 PM, is it better for countries with backwards tech to stay on the tier 1 construction PM until they unlock atmospheric engine?
I think it's probably better to ramp up initially on the T1, then when you hit breakeven to begin to swap (meaning you want to spread out quite a bit) and facilitate the swapping by importing iron pretty aggressively.
Legit the best.
Can you do a México run with the hegemony mission?
Great video, and how you should do with small countries in South America?
Get into someone's market for migration (pref Russia)
Cant wait for the modern dawn mod for vic, imagine all the national debt 😭
How should I balance economic expansion against military expansion, especially for countries with good early game conquest opportunities, e.g. taking the Mexican states as the US?
Hi, do you know what the tech to get the MAPI to as high as possible?
I only know about stock exchange and romantism (to change from traditionalism)
That Brazil having that many shortages terrifies me, that country would have fallen into food riots lol
Can you pls upload the excel spreadsheet?
Please do Japan again with the new systems and war stuff
will there be a video on Victoria 3 politics mechanic?
how can you solve standard of living decline due to excessive taxation? most of the time i end up having 100 times more radicals than loyalist and it says the reason is standard of living decline.
Go after the unemployed pops first with new profitable buildings. And be careful building agriculture because each slot built deletes a subsistence farm releasing pops into the unemployment pool where they are no longer supported by subsistence.
Sometimes you’ll want to do the opposite to gain pops quickly for your new buildings because sometimes hiring pops is too slow because they become satisfied in their subsistence.
10:56 aaah Hokkaido, gold mines all the way xD
Useful
Dude these videos are so good, Paradox should pay your for doing them. Keeps more people from bouncing off the learning curve and leaving the game.
What do you do with your crap states tho? Just accept their crappyness and focus on the good ones till midgame? Maybe build barracks there?
It can be good to add a few things like textiles, food industries etc to more rural states with agriculture imo so that your main industrial states don't run out of peasants too soon allowing your crappy states to at least generate some skilled workers and to increase the SOL above minimum so that you don't get lots of radicals. That being said, it is OK to just have some crap states as if you have greener grass especially they'll migrate to your main productive states.
So, I have a few important questions, nations like the Ottomans, Qing or any releasable ones, you start off with wooden construction,
When do you switch to the iron frame building?
Do you first build your iron mines and logging camps ? Do you then build the construction sector where they are based?
How many construction sectors do you build in one go for Industrial and Non-industrial countries? Do you concentrate on one state and then move on to the other states or just build one by one?
Is construction sector always needs to be built primarily?
Because you also have to pass laws to get off traditionalism for not industrialist countries, do you stack authority or just tax the higher strata?
When do you build the other sectors up like the military or fabric to produce silk, coffee and such?
Thanks in advance for reading my comment!
Pretty fast, utilizing trade to get the iron until you get condensing engine.
You switch back and forth, there isn't really a "first" other than don't run shortages.
It depends. Concentrate depending on how off RRs are and also pop.
Idk what you mean by primarily.
Usually early on its better to float authority to pass laws faster, but it depends a lot on the country.
@@generalistgaming Thanks for your reply. Primarily means, just as an example let's say every year you consistently build 5 construction sectors to keep your economy going and industry spinning.
Or do you build the construction sectors when you're not running a deficit?
I can't seem to understand how to create shortages yet.. I've tried moving to the iron frame right from the get go with the ottomans and had -2k iron and was trying to build iron mines to close the shortage..
That's wrong right ?
youtube algorithm thing, cause damn that was helpful haha
Don't know if you talked about this but if you start as a very resource limited nation like Denmark, then what would you suggest doing to get local prices down, i played a game in which my idea was to mass colonize and exploit my colonies to feed the home islands but it simply seems to not work because of how the current implementation works
I'd suggest going after S. Africa and using their resources
I think building in 1 state is okay, but its not always the best. Yeah local prices matter, but you can also have 2 states for more output through decrees and bonuses. I think for Spain for example using the Navarra and Asturia bonuses is really good even tho they arent "rainbow states" like Valencia(forgot which one had all of them).
Also going into construction early on seems reasonable, but building textile mills early on for example, gives you a higher standard of living increasing birth rates and every pop not born in 1836 is a lot of population in 1936. So you can certainly cap out your economy harder later on, if you go for consumption goods early on.
Bro can you please do a guide on Greece (how to form Byzantium, and how to jumpstart basically a non existent economy) I feel like most other TH-camrs know the same amount as me when it comes to vic 3 but it really seems like you know quite a lot about this game. I would love to see your how u deal with this start as most the nations I play start of really weak bcos I think it’s really satisfying to watch your nation start from nothing and grow to become the strongest nation. I don’t have much fun playing someoen like USA as they are already so overpowered. Thanks! I look forward to watching your video on it! (If you decide to make one)
Thank you for the super thanks! Greece is definitely on the radar/commonly requested so I'll keep it in mind, but for the most part nation selection goes through the polling process in the channel. It's pretty out of date but I did do a Mare Nostrum Greece/Byzantium run, half video, half stream, back in 1.2:
th-cam.com/play/PLL3Li_R8P-oogiYvYGfp_I5PIcVjtk0mZ.html
Jumped back into VIcky 3 after not playing since release. Seems like a lot has been improved! Did a Belgium playthrough and fumbled so bad. Early game is definitly the worst for me. I have no idea what a good strategy is so this video is a godsend.
Glad it helped!
30:44 You get a like for describing cryptobros as “peasants”. Or was it the other way round.
To the moon!
I might be too stupid for this game. The minute the spreadsheet came out my eyes glazed over.
I mean you can understand the idea w/o the spreadsheet - I def don't consult the spreadsheet while playing, just use it to understand the underlying stuff
@@generalistgaming For sure. One of the biggest hurdles for me was MAPI but a lot of it was due to watching old tutorials. The basic economics are cause and effect but now on a localized level.
Still, this game finds ways to utterly humble me without me having a full grasp as to why. I quite enjoy it none the less.
Peasants are cryptobros!! Amazing! Great analogy man. Though in this case, it's non-market goods and non-market income and completely real in terms of experience. So it's kind of the opposite end of the economy from the cryptobros. Just as fake as far as the market goes though.
Yeah I mean I agree that it's real in the reality that the game is representing, but it's most def fake in terms of the in game "real" experience in terms of mechanics.
Good
Great guide, but I always struggle with trying to avoid going bankrupt. How am I supposed to balance my construction and income? Do I just pause building when debt gets too high?
As you approach default you should delete construction centers over pausing construction
Hi nice Video good Job. I wanted to ask if you could give me the Excel spreadsheet from the video, it will help me a lot in the game and thanks again for the nice video.
I found the Excel spreadsheet on the discord thanks.
Is public trading a better ownership than capitalists once it’s available or is it not worth switching over?
Yes, but there are a lot of really small reasons and it takes a while to unpack. An example is that it improves the consumption profile (generally) of your country letting industries be more profitable because lowering the avg SoL of upper class by making more of them to split dividends means a better basket of goods is getting consumed, but also that it increases your avg SoL because of exponential needs.
Am I understanding this correctly? Early game it's better to build buildings that employ more people. Late game it's better to automate those production methods to free up shrinking labor pools for other jobs?
That's roughly correct, yes.
ahh, was hoping for spreadsheet in describtion
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NDUwUWHlNuQTWMejK0Agv8gC3fn6ujiXKE9WfVmjFBc/edit#gid=0
What would you do in a sticky situation such as the Netherlands where you don't start out with iron and if you conquer Bruinei in Indonesia which has iron, all the pops inside that province leave your country due to Netherlands starting with open borders. Also good vid :D
It's a little boring, but I think meta for every European heritage country w/o good mapi states is to go for Transvaal and use the Violent Suppression edict to be able to build there early.
Okay, I'll see what I can do with that info 🎉
Tried to play Japan for the first time with MAPI, but it's painful. Even with open borders, migration into Hokkaido was pitiful.
Yeah, you got to just ignore Hokkaido except for the gold
So is there a mid-game follow up to this where we care more about worker efficiency?
Yeah, it's titled mid game industrialization through automation or something like that.
This mapi mechanic is killing me, what should I do if I am playing something like osmans, where there is no single good mapi province? Im just fucked?
Ottomans have no coal/iron province, but a lot where they're just one province over. Very sad.
i'm still having the problem since the game came out that no matter what, i cant lower the price of the inputs for construction & it stays too expensive
thats literally impossible
@@Anonymuskid it is possible & its happening to me every time i play this game for nearly 2 years
please tell what is the portrait in the background?
It's Hannibal Barca! The caption says "Yes We Cannae" (Hannibal Barca is famous for fighting against Rome in the second Punic War. In the Battle of Cannae he killed an enormous percentage of the adult male population of Rome).
What country do you recommend for getting a hang of industrialising?
Belgium is nice, but as a run is vulnerable to France deciding to eat you.
@@generalistgaming I’ll give them a go thanks! Any others come to mind?
Prussia, but the diplo of Prussia might not be immediately straightforward. Places w/ really nice states are nice. I suppose Russia might be pretty interesting as they need to pass a lot of laws@@FlippFloppp