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Linux only got Jane Average compatible in the last ten or so years, i am using Linux as my main since 2001 so i lived trough a good portion on the change from jank to userfriendly. Nowadays i have two screens attached trough USB3 of all things to my Battlestation Steamdeck running Ubuntu and everything just works, back then that would surely have been a nightmare.
I appreciate that zero effort was made to select monitor sizes / resolutions with remotely similar DPIs. Watching the window radically change size as you dragged it between the three screens really was a thing of beauty.
I did this irl with my modern system and I have nothing to be guilty about. I wanted a better bigger monitor but the old one wasn't too bad to just put in storage or sell nor did I have a budget for two monitors. Oh, and the newer one is also kinda HDR so when dragging windows I have to deal with color too.
My hat's off to you for the best joke ever on this topic! I've been making jokes about Steve Jobs for years about his anti-fan obsession, but this one beats them all!
If old computers hadn't become so expensive, I'd love to have a Mac SE in my collection. I have very fond memories of using one exactly like this in the computer lab of my high school after hours.
I'm going to go through all the videos on the channel to see if you ever did an episode about the Socrates pictured up on the shelf in the back. I had one as a kid -- it was as close to a Nintendo as my parents were willing to get -- but between the membrane keyboard and incredibly sluggish performance, I can't say that I got a lot of use out of it. Thankfully they had no problem with me sitting in the basement all day at age 10 playing SimCity 2000 on my LC III.
My cat simulator will bring me your squirrel simulator as an unwanted gift which will crawl up my leg, get away and hide in the house and I won't be able to rescue it until the next day.
Reminds me of when I had a multi-monitor setup that consisted of a 15" CRT and a 1:27 19" LCD - the CRT was 1024x768 and the LCD 1400X900. And both screens had very different colours
July 4th obviously delayed this video from Saturday to Monday and I saw the same thing with another channel that released last night rather than Friday night. You are both Americans, makes sense. Funnily, I saw a third channel that released today rather than on Saturday and he's Swedish living in Spain, so I don't know what that's about.
An SE30 is my only "Classic Mac" type Mac... but it's in a desktop form factor and not in its original casing with glorious tiny low res display. I got the board as-is, repaired it, but didn't want to buy a chassis, old or new, so I just made my own custom case, maxed it out, and I ended up with a solid color Mac in a small form factor... which was moot because my main classic Mac is a Maciotosh iici maxed out... Couldn't let the SE30 board go to scrap, and it was a fun project, so it works out.
Pro tip for everyone with those plastic ram clips. Heat the plastic when inserting/removing RAM, it makes the plastic more flexible and reduces chances of breakage. A hairdryer is your friend.
Where did you get the clip you used to seat that last RAM SIMM? I haven't seen one of those before and I'm sure I will eventually run into a broken SIMM clip too. Thanks!
DekuNukem has some neat stuff on their Tindie store. Modern PSU adapters for a bunch of vintage computers, plus an adapter to use modern USB input devices. And a board that lets you power a BBC Micro from USB-C!
Thanks for all the great videos! I wonder if the BlueSCSI could be updated to emulate that SuperView device or something like it. The BlueSCSI already can emulate an Ethernet device so maybe there's enough power there for emulating a video display as well. That would be super cool!
I miss the old days when you could just hear of an upgrade card through a magazine or user groups and it was just some web1 website selling it. You'd think things were a bit too bespoke for that to happen back then but no, even Palm PDAs had upgrade cards.
I looked up a review of the SuperMac SuperView from someone who got one a few years ago. It reported exactly the same sort of glitches that bothered you.
Hey Action Retro You really know your way around old technology. Keep it up as even though I never grew up with some of the tech on your channel I love getting more out of tech as that is the reason I decided to custom rom my Samsung Tablet as it was no longer getting system updates anymore as it was not supported anymore and since it was still a good tablet and I did not want to switch I decided to put Lineage OS on it as it is a still up to date rom with the latest version of Android but you tinker with machines and get way further than I am comfortable as the most I did was on my Laptop when I upgraded the SSD and it was really easy to get into and do it but you really know your stuff man. Keep it up I love to see it. I love to see people like you keeping tech alive.
The slowness reminds me of ten or eleven years ago, working chat support at a call center on reasonably capable Windows XP machines and playing Cookie Clicker completely slowing my machine to a crawl (especially the further along in game I got). Good memories.
They sadly don't make portrait mode monitors anymore. Imagine all the code I could edit in a flash without scrolling up and down if they were still made.
Dude. Those Pivot cards were great back in the day for CAD & DTP. Awesome retrospective. If you plan to attend VCF-MW,' I'd love to sit in on a Y/N panel :P
Agreed. Floppy drives will never not be satisfying. Wish i knew the how of it but I saw a video where a guy made a sleeper where it had a floppy drive, and floppies went in. But hte floppies were caddies for SD cards.
I had the OEM version of that Sun Microsystems monitor, from NEC. I absolutely adored how crisp it was and used it alongside my UltraWides until the driver board died. Attempted sourcing a replacement from China that never showed :( sad days.
Okay, what we really need is a way to use Retro68 as a sort of distcc, so we can not only code on the Mac, but get faster code than whatever ancient compilers were made in the 90s could ever hope to produce. Also, if you're not using Retro68 (or straight assembly), you're making a mistake.
As for the button showing up as black, even light gray can render as black if one of wrong "fill" APIs are used on a black & white window instead of an Erase API. Real basic probably didn't anticipate multiple monitor support.
This video reminds me.. I once used some Farallon PhoneNet adaptors, a print server box (had a apple DIN serial port and an ethernet port so you could connect something like a Imagewriter or Stylewriter to your Ethernet network), a old Asante 5 port 10BaseT Hub, and a PC built of handed down parts free from neighbors running RedHat 6.1 and dialed into a free dial-up ISP... I setup a proxy server on the linux box and somehow after lots of fun locating a version of MacTCP that'd work on a Plus running OS 7 but would leave enough memory for a old version of the Mosaic browser..... somehow I was able to share that connection and browse to pages on the web from the Mac Pluses. Why I wanted to do this, I cannot remember now lmao.
I have an old Mac “tower” in the storage space under my steps that I bought back in 2013 I think. Have to dig it out and see what it is. Has a monitor and keyboard if I remember.
Did the name of the video briefly switch to "I made a squirrel simulator for classic Mac" and then back to "Building something very serious"? More stealth edits than WSJ headlines
question: you think its possible to replace the external scsi video card with something like a svga card inside? play a little pin to via/pin wire up fun time? meaning, i was thinking about how slow that scsi card is, i was thinking maybe if you know someone perhaps you could "addon" or "replace the actual video portion with something like a cirrus logic chip set on board. simple conversion, its not like youd have to desolder any of the chips on the main board, you just need to connect to them or their vias. its not like the card wont be driven from the main board, the main board will initialize and so will the new "replacement" video card. just like a pc, no drivers needed. im editing this as well, what about a isa to scsi converter and a small board to run 1 or 2 svga cards? i understand some of this is feasible and some of it is pure jank :)
I note from your other SE30 vids you have a PISCSI - have you tried the "Videocard" function/firmware on that ? I know it doesn't negate the slowness of the SCSI bus but HDMI out and GPU work done on the pi zero will probably be several orders of magnitude faster than whatever's in that SCSI videocard box.
TH-cam seems to be doing funky stuff again as I receieved a notification for this even though I already watched it yesterday. I want to see where that "YOU HUNGER FOR FLESH" goes. Would the game be possible to run on a 68k Mac emulator?
All the Space made by switching the battery supply you could fit a Cutdown Wii motherboard in that space start making a Frankenputer (Frankenstein X Computer)
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12:10 it's incredible an old Mac could do multi-monitor window management back then with less jank than a modern Linux desktop :D
Linux only got Jane Average compatible in the last ten or so years, i am using Linux as my main since 2001 so i lived trough a good portion on the change from jank to userfriendly. Nowadays i have two screens attached trough USB3 of all things to my Battlestation Steamdeck running Ubuntu and everything just works, back then that would surely have been a nightmare.
honestly the jank is about the same
I appreciate that zero effort was made to select monitor sizes / resolutions with remotely similar DPIs. Watching the window radically change size as you dragged it between the three screens really was a thing of beauty.
I did this irl with my modern system and I have nothing to be guilty about. I wanted a better bigger monitor but the old one wasn't too bad to just put in storage or sell nor did I have a budget for two monitors. Oh, and the newer one is also kinda HDR so when dragging windows I have to deal with color too.
If you add a fan, Steve Jobs will spin in his grave fast enough to cool the entire system!
How DARE you make light of the god of apple! Reeeeeeeeeee!
My hat's off to you for the best joke ever on this topic! I've been making jokes about Steve Jobs for years about his anti-fan obsession, but this one beats them all!
Use the thematically appropriate "squirrel cage" fan out of a Macintosh SE!
Noctua FTW (The SE30 has a fan standard anyways)
@@asm1 I kind of wondered, never had an SE/30 myself but the fan on my SE was pretty conspicuous.
Oh hey, I'm the one who makes those Slaton Computers 16mb SIMMs. Glad to see them being used.
Woah nice!!
Literally just bought 2 sets for my own SE/30! Cool!
Squirrel Simulator feels as if it should be a HyperCard stack.
Definitely.
If old computers hadn't become so expensive, I'd love to have a Mac SE in my collection. I have very fond memories of using one exactly like this in the computer lab of my high school after hours.
Same, it's the only one on my list left to get. One day. One day.
It is bubble, high prices are for collectors. There is no reason to pay. Go to PC museum, klick and go home. You just kept money.
SCSI External Video Card... The most hilarious combination of words and letters EVER!
I'm going to go through all the videos on the channel to see if you ever did an episode about the Socrates pictured up on the shelf in the back. I had one as a kid -- it was as close to a Nintendo as my parents were willing to get -- but between the membrane keyboard and incredibly sluggish performance, I can't say that I got a lot of use out of it. Thankfully they had no problem with me sitting in the basement all day at age 10 playing SimCity 2000 on my LC III.
Not yet - I also had one as a kid!
Just going to ignore the "YOU HUNGER FOR FLESH" window.
Ignore the what window
You didn’t see anything
We don’t talk about that window
You're not safe.
whoever made this game probably went nuts
My cat simulator will bring me your squirrel simulator as an unwanted gift which will crawl up my leg, get away and hide in the house and I won't be able to rescue it until the next day.
I am running your cat simulator and it seems to ignore chipmunk objects. Can you patch this bug?
Mine would just make friends and lick through other simulator a lot for some reason.
[banging on the table like a hungry child] Case mod! Case mod! Case mod!
Reminds me of when I had a multi-monitor setup that consisted of a 15" CRT and a 1:27 19" LCD - the CRT was 1024x768 and the LCD 1400X900. And both screens had very different colours
July 4th obviously delayed this video from Saturday to Monday and I saw the same thing with another channel that released last night rather than Friday night. You are both Americans, makes sense. Funnily, I saw a third channel that released today rather than on Saturday and he's Swedish living in Spain, so I don't know what that's about.
2:13 its beautiful, its like a streaming setup from the early 90s
An SE30 is my only "Classic Mac" type Mac... but it's in a desktop form factor and not in its original casing with glorious tiny low res display. I got the board as-is, repaired it, but didn't want to buy a chassis, old or new, so I just made my own custom case, maxed it out, and I ended up with a solid color Mac in a small form factor... which was moot because my main classic Mac is a Maciotosh iici maxed out... Couldn't let the SE30 board go to scrap, and it was a fun project, so it works out.
Oh Oh Oh…call it the Mississippi Squirrel Simulator and then you can add in a “Go Bezerk” button!
Pro tip for everyone with those plastic ram clips. Heat the plastic when inserting/removing RAM, it makes the plastic more flexible and reduces chances of breakage. A hairdryer is your friend.
REALbasic! I’ve not seen that UI in 20 years!
Very slow program on anything but a PowerPC though.
“I wonder why the SCSI video card slows the whole system down?”
Asked and answered lmao
This is exciting to see a PDS booster; suitable for SE/30! For $180 it's affordable. Can't wait to install it on my SE/30.
Where did you get the clip you used to seat that last RAM SIMM? I haven't seen one of those before and I'm sure I will eventually run into a broken SIMM clip too. Thanks!
Your squirrel forages so slowly because of BASIC... Convert to Assembly to have it run faster on a stock CPU.
Aww Cute Squirrel game, I wond - ""YOU HUNGER FOR FLESH"
... Well that escalated real quick.
This makes me want an SE30. Also... nice Municipal Waste poster.
I was not a retro computer lover until i discovered your channel
I enjoy your videos so much
Monochrome black and white displays are relatively rare in vintage computing, but always an absolute delight to see.
DekuNukem has some neat stuff on their Tindie store. Modern PSU adapters for a bunch of vintage computers, plus an adapter to use modern USB input devices.
And a board that lets you power a BBC Micro from USB-C!
Name the squirrel dee, so you can call the game dee’s nuts! 😂
Trademark infringement, FYI.
No this is the kinda shit nobody else is doing! Love your videos man!!
Thanks for all the great videos! I wonder if the BlueSCSI could be updated to emulate that SuperView device or something like it. The BlueSCSI already can emulate an Ethernet device so maybe there's enough power there for emulating a video display as well. That would be super cool!
PiSCSI /RASCSI can do that. Video out from a Pi will be several orders of magnitude faster even with the relative slowness of the scsi bus.
I miss the old days when you could just hear of an upgrade card through a magazine or user groups and it was just some web1 website selling it. You'd think things were a bit too bespoke for that to happen back then but no, even Palm PDAs had upgrade cards.
I looked up a review of the SuperMac SuperView from someone who got one a few years ago. It reported exactly the same sort of glitches that bothered you.
"The desk is very sturdy"
_shows it shaking like crazy_
At least it's not squirrel stapler.
You're tempting me to do crazy things with my newly recapped SE/30.
The computer by the end: "End my suffering..."
Everyone else: "NUT NUMBER GO UP LETS GO!"
man i always loved that lil mac it might be under powered but still useable atleast
Hey Action Retro You really know your way around old technology. Keep it up as even though I never grew up with some of the tech on your channel I love getting more out of tech as that is the reason I decided to custom rom my Samsung Tablet as it was no longer getting system updates anymore as it was not supported anymore and since it was still a good tablet and I did not want to switch I decided to put Lineage OS on it as it is a still up to date rom with the latest version of Android but you tinker with machines and get way further than I am comfortable as the most I did was on my Laptop when I upgraded the SSD and it was really easy to get into and do it but you really know your stuff man. Keep it up I love to see it. I love to see people like you keeping tech alive.
from cursed painted se/30 glory to even glorier beige upgrades.
Ahh, Photoshop 4. Had to buy that in college for my major. Used it forever.
I still use Photoshop 6, got it free from college
There ARE white squirrels in Brevard NC!
I will never do this. Morbid curiosity is what draws me back in, every time.
The slowness reminds me of ten or eleven years ago, working chat support at a call center on reasonably capable Windows XP machines and playing Cookie Clicker completely slowing my machine to a crawl (especially the further along in game I got). Good memories.
8:50 - What's that blue thing? So many motherboards could have been saved if I knew that existed.
I came here to ask this question. I have two motherboards that have broken ram slots. Please post the link for that clip!
You also are cute powerhouse. Thank you for this adventure! Don't forget to feed squirrel.
I can't wait to work on mine this winter !
"Is that black spot on HIS wall or on MY monitor?" -- me probably
The monitor reminds me of my old HP 17" Very good monitor, make some electric noise when is on. But It lasted amost 15 years without cleaning.
its a retro dev station, nice.
We have those desks at my work, they’re the shiznizzle
eagerly awaiting 'bury' DLC
It was nice to see the Quadra make an appearance
That’s awesome!!! Great Job!👏🏻
They sadly don't make portrait mode monitors anymore. Imagine all the code I could edit in a flash without scrolling up and down if they were still made.
I got myself one of those portable monitors that can be used automatically in any orientation.
Pretty sure these monitors are still available today
OH MAN, I had a 950 Quadra, cost me an arm and a leg.
That Quadra 700 would be an excellent choice!
The best retro Mac channel !
I love these crazy upgrade mods.
You should retest the performance with the SCSI graphics removed to see how much it hurt performance
Dude. Those Pivot cards were great back in the day for CAD & DTP. Awesome retrospective. If you plan to attend VCF-MW,' I'd love to sit in on a Y/N panel :P
Agreed. Floppy drives will never not be satisfying. Wish i knew the how of it but I saw a video where a guy made a sleeper where it had a floppy drive, and floppies went in. But hte floppies were caddies for SD cards.
This is _very_ serious indeed.
Wow. If the hardware wasn't enough jank, you went and ran Real Basic on it! That thing is the definition of jank!
Developers developers developers developers!
Sweat stain Steve
I got four words for you: I... love... this... company... yeah... (abillity to count not required to be a billionaire)
At least we’re in a good start
I really enjoy your videos. you do some really wild and crazy things. keep it up man!
The updated power supply, your game seems cool tho! 😺
I had the OEM version of that Sun Microsystems monitor, from NEC. I absolutely adored how crisp it was and used it alongside my UltraWides until the driver board died. Attempted sourcing a replacement from China that never showed :( sad days.
Okay, what we really need is a way to use Retro68 as a sort of distcc, so we can not only code on the Mac, but get faster code than whatever ancient compilers were made in the 90s could ever hope to produce. Also, if you're not using Retro68 (or straight assembly), you're making a mistake.
What a lovely bit of chaos.
As for the button showing up as black, even light gray can render as black if one of wrong "fill" APIs are used on a black & white window instead of an Erase API. Real basic probably didn't anticipate multiple monitor support.
WoW that is some very cool upgrades
This video reminds me.. I once used some Farallon PhoneNet adaptors, a print server box (had a apple DIN serial port and an ethernet port so you could connect something like a Imagewriter or Stylewriter to your Ethernet network), a old Asante 5 port 10BaseT Hub, and a PC built of handed down parts free from neighbors running RedHat 6.1 and dialed into a free dial-up ISP... I setup a proxy server on the linux box and somehow after lots of fun locating a version of MacTCP that'd work on a Plus running OS 7 but would leave enough memory for a old version of the Mosaic browser..... somehow I was able to share that connection and browse to pages on the web from the Mac Pluses. Why I wanted to do this, I cannot remember now lmao.
Damn, that's smooth.
Tormenting old computers… only in Action Retro 😂
I didn't see the squirrel's nuts.
Love the SUN LCD display, Imma harfta find one. Almost baught one one back when they were new. (Should have)
Your sponsor links in the description are broken chief, looks like they're trying to include the (US) and (CA) text
I have an old Mac “tower” in the storage space under my steps that I bought back in 2013 I think. Have to dig it out and see what it is. Has a monitor and keyboard if I remember.
I'd like to have a classic macintosh at somepoint too in my collection of old stuff, but i'm in Europe.
How much weight reduction did removing the original PSU get you?
Did the name of the video briefly switch to "I made a squirrel simulator for classic Mac" and then back to "Building something very serious"? More stealth edits than WSJ headlines
question: you think its possible to replace the external scsi video card with something like a svga card inside? play a little pin to via/pin wire up fun time? meaning, i was thinking about how slow that scsi card is, i was thinking maybe if you know someone perhaps you could "addon" or "replace the actual video portion with something like a cirrus logic chip set on board. simple conversion, its not like youd have to desolder any of the chips on the main board, you just need to connect to them or their vias. its not like the card wont be driven from the main board, the main board will initialize and so will the new "replacement" video card. just like a pc, no drivers needed. im editing this as well, what about a isa to scsi converter and a small board to run 1 or 2 svga cards? i understand some of this is feasible and some of it is pure jank :)
I note from your other SE30 vids you have a PISCSI - have you tried the "Videocard" function/firmware on that ? I know it doesn't negate the slowness of the SCSI bus but HDMI out and GPU work done on the pi zero will probably be several orders of magnitude faster than whatever's in that SCSI videocard box.
The hunger for flesh squirrel is kinda disturbing lol
DUDE YES! Get out the IIfx! I need an excuse to get my four flavors of Mac II machines back out and ready for prime time ;)
You should make "the egg game" from "i think you should leave."
@ActionRetro now I want to see you push the boundaries for the Apple IIc :P
This Sun Monitor looks exactly as my NEC Monitor!!! Maybe Sun bought it from NEC and branded it with their own brand.....
Have you ever considered getting into midi and music production on an old mac? Cool video!
That game is nuts.
Squirrels love to eat almonds. I have an almond tree. It is difficult to get any almonds.
You gotta get the Jurassic Mac or the Quadra 950 up and running with something EPIC 😂
A free tier? That's punk rock, dude \m/
TH-cam seems to be doing funky stuff again as I receieved a notification for this even though I already watched it yesterday.
I want to see where that "YOU HUNGER FOR FLESH" goes. Would the game be possible to run on a 68k Mac emulator?
This is awesome, but what happened to the cursed mac?
Quadra 950 seems like the most reasonable option for your new 68k coding battlestation.
All the Space made by switching the battery supply you could fit a Cutdown Wii motherboard in that space start making a Frankenputer (Frankenstein X Computer)
So, how'll "YOU HUNGER FOR FLESH" play into Squirrel Simulator?
What's with the SIMM that wasn't standing up on its own and the little blue thing you added?