BRAND NEW Sennheiser HD490 Pro Review!
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Both pads are included with the PRO Plus and the non Plus.
Noted! Thanks!
The extra pad on the Plus is the one for the headband - you get 2 of those. @@JoshuaValour
The non plus doesn't come with the case, extra cloth head pad and the longer cable.
I have been a sound engineer for 30 years and I can confirm the enormous quality of these headphones, the comfort! mechanics and also by a frequency curve which allows you to work for a long time without fatigue. the best mixing headphones for me...I would like to point out that I have around ten reference headsets
Do you have the HD 600 and how do they compare to these?
Do you mean the hd490s? Or Sennheiser series in general ?
Changeable pads on the headband are now a must for headphones.
@@al-919 is your Mum also your Dad ?
How do they compare to the Phillips SHP9600’s or the Audio Technica MX50X?
It's funny how price is often a main thing that is brought up the most in HD 490 Pro reviews. Josh thinks it should be 25% cheaper ($300), yet the Beyer DT 1990 Pro he compares it to is 33% more ($529), and the 660s2 is 25% more ($500). The list price for the HD 600 and HD 650 are more than the HD 490 Pro, although they are usually deeply discounted these days by the consumer division.
Often the phones the 490 is getting compared to more-or-less require a powerful headphone amp, while the HD 490 Pro's can be driven from most things in a studio.
I would still like a serious reviewer to compare and contrast with the 62% more expensive Neumann NDH-30 ($649.)
Yesss Good request
Well zeos loves his ndh but he isn't q serious reviewer 😂
I got my dt 1990 for 430€
The 1990s absolutely do not require a powerful amp to drive.
@@Neonmirrorblacktrue, but if you dont buy a good dac you are barely getting its full potential
Hello, thank you for this very thoughtful and detailed Sennheiser review.
Back in the late 90's I bought a pair of HD 580 Jubilee, HD 565 Ovations, and HD Reference headphones. Family members made off with the Jubilee and Ovations and I gave the HD 545 to my wife to use with her computer.
Well she didn't use them so we sealed them and put them in storage. Just rediscovered them a couple of weeks ago - mint condition but replaced ear pads and head band - they sound really good so got to thinking I should get some new Sennheisers so just received the new HD 490 Pro Plus which are great being 8 out of 10 across the board! No more crappy cables, ear pads, head band or 3 blob sound stage!
Price is a premium as they are brand new on the market. We should also consider that Sennheiser Pro division has lost the entire 600 line to the consumer company, so this is a new first for the professional products company, seen in that light not a bad start.
Thank you for the review, nice lighting by the way, your sound of course is tops as usual.
nice review, was waiting for this. impressive headphones for this price. enjoy your time as a new dad!
Sennheiser has this unique sound that makes me happy there are other headphone manufacturers.
Great review man 👊 made it easier for me to decide which model to aim for next time!
High! It's amazing to hear you talk about "sound adaptation". I think you are the first to talk about our capacity to adapt our listening to a sound signature. It's very important to talk about this. Thank you for that.
This whole "hobby" would die if people understood this lol.
@@Terra101lmaooo 💀 shhhh. No one needs to know
adaptation does not mean acceptance
Seems amazing, a good step up from my first audiophile headphones the SHP9600’s.
Great review. Would be great if you could make a review of the Neumann ndh 30.
I can say after almost 2 weeks with these for gaming, they have been very nice, and the sound staging with Dolby Atmos has been amazing for FPSs and I've also really liked listening to music on Tidal with these. I'm happy with my purchase. (Paired with the Focusrite Scarlette 2i2 4th Gen).
People When Joshua said HD 600 are the best this is in his opinion and taste. That doesnt make 600 the best of them all. HD600 are the best at vocals by smooth out everything else, HD650 are the smoothest warmer of them all and the best for this, HD660s are the most Lively best imaging separation and bring instruments in the mix of them all and 660s2 have the technical capabilities of 660s and signature but smoother on treble and more sub bass. So the BEST HD6 is what U like more and not what others say . If u like not so Vocal focus Headphone then 660s and S2 is way better headphones and if u like warm slow smooth sound get the 650 thats all...
Very true at the end it's personal preference I have had all 6XX headphones , hd 580 , hd58x , 600 , 650 , 660s and now 660s2 to me the 660s2 is just perfect and I like them the most out of the 6xx line I also had Sennheiser top line hd700 and hd800 , hd700 was great but I couldn't live with the 6khz peak and the hd800 that I had very briefly was outstanding but not suitable for my music tastes and that's why I settled with hd 660s2 it does it all great although I wish it had a better soundstage, maybe one day they will launch hd 700s2 and I will be there to give them a go
@@ccdani2 Great post, I have all HD 5 and HD6 line i collect them, but never had 700 or 800. So thanks for sharing your opinion, Right now on my PC i have my 660s , and for music to me the best are HD660s2 . But some times when i want to impress someone with Vocal songs , i use HD600 , the only Headphones that i dont use often are then HD 650 because right now i am not in the mood of Metal, and harsh old punk in my opinion these songs need smoother headphones . I have Heard people saying that HD700 are AMAZING Gaming and Movie headphones great imaging and Soundstage, i also know that my 660s have Blue Coil driver and also HD700 have Blue coil driver and both of them 150ohm, So? are the same driver ? maybe... But if we consider that HD660s have the biggest soundstage , great imaging then maybe yes they are same driver , HD700 have different Construction the drivers are far and with angle so i guess that helps alot also, on HD6 line they are close and flat . I think that HD 5 line have more in common in their construction with old HD 700 they have angle drivers and a bit bigger soundstage, So and HD5 Construction with HD 6 driver in them would be an intresting Idea . Honestly i had 6XX and an old 599 and i was ready to swap and mod drivers to them , but i had to destroy everything on them and i stopped.
I will be mixing vocals.. rap vocals, indie, r&b Maybe the hd600 is the way to go for me.
@@elzycollins Not maybe , sure 600 are the way to go, amazing for vocals.
It will be interesting to see how the Pro company will start to deviate from the headphones by the non-pro Sennheiser company. I think making the build stand out is a good place to start.
The long awaited review
Thanks for the review! Hope you can get your hands on the Aune AR5000. $300 and some reviews compare them quite well to the HD600.
Thxs for the review. How does it EQs?
A comparison to the Neumann-NDH-30 would be cool. This headphone are made by a company also owned by Sennheiser Pro (which is different from Sennheiser Consumer, that belongs to Sonova) and uses the same drivers, the ones in the 560S and 490 Pro.
0:14 Waiiit that's Billo Boi 👌
That pretty sick considering it's a song with only 4K plays :D
Great review! I was just wondering. I currently own the HD650, and I really like how they sound, especially with SoundID correction, but I'm so sick of the long cable that I constantly end up driving the wheels of my chair over and also that it has the double wired cable in both earcups. I know it sounds stupid, but I just feel like i constantly need to untangle them everytime I bring them out of my backpack, and it also feels kind of "choking" to me with having the double cable under the chin for 8 hours a day. I do post audio for TV shows and often need to work on headphones because I travel a lot and cant have a monitor setup. My question is what headphones do you recommend that sound similar to what I'm used to with the 650, but maybe has a better soundstage and more comfort? is the 660s2 an option? Or is there something from another brand like beyerdynamic that could fit? My colleague on the show I'm working on now is actually in love with his HD400, but I feel like they are way to harsh in the top end for my own taste. Thanks in advance!
Your videos are absolutely the best. It’s like you have 150 people behind the camera….writing, producing, filming, editing and so on.
Good TV quality and way above what’s going on TH-cam.
A close second, but quite far is MKBHD.
Josh if I remember correctly, you really liked the IE600 (and loved the IE900). Which of all these Sennheiser headphones are the closest in sound signature and that excellent detail retrieval to you?
New to audiophile headphones, have used Audio Engine for the past 10 years. A2+’s, A5+’s, HD3’s, HD6’s, S8 Subwoofers. Grew up with Sony Noise Cancelling headphones, Bose Quiet Comfort 2’s, and Beats Studios 10 years ago. Got my first Phillips SHP9600’s, and I love them, they seem to be improving a bit, and I’m assuming drivers have a break in period similar to high quality speakers.
What do you think of these compared to the DT900 Pro X?
Dang! Production quality has come way up!
@JoshuaValour will the hd490 sound good with a budget amp/dac like the smls c200 or do they need a high end source to sound good?
Hi Josh, I'm really enjoying your review, but could you please reduce the sibilance in the audio a bit? Thank you.
This is not for audiophiles or consumers. It is for people who mix, master and create music.
I suggest the “busy” tracks you thought muddled the bass was not because of the headphones but rather you were hearing poorly mixed music, and the HD490s were doing their job and revealing a problem in the mix.
Voshua Jalour
very cool 👍
Coming from the 560s I love this headset on just comfort alone
Where do you get the music in your videos from? I really like some of it.
These headphones are primarily for mixing and mastering and should be reviewed for this use case. I find the HD 490s excel in the studio setting where you are looking for a good level of neutrality and faithfulness. They are great for long sessions due to their high level of comfort.
How are the Vs Sony MDR MV1?
The production quality of your videos is good, but I feel like there could be some benefit to you introducing your headphones a bit better. Esp in sens where the model number doesn't always indicate it's intended purpose/target audience/competitors so we know what to compare them to.
Quick comparison between these and the Edition XS (imaging, bass, soundstage, etc
I am definitely getting them soooon. :)
Just curious if you may potentially review the topping dx9?
This is also really only ~ $60 more than the AT R70x, which is also very comfortable, and also with decent soundstage. I'd be interested in that comparison. If this sounds better overall, they may not need to reduce price by much to sell well.
Don't forget that the package includes a license for the dearVR MIX-SE plugin for $99. The only question is whether it is necessary.
I ordered these, I hope they don’t disappoint me.)
You like them?
Did you use the dearVR MIX-SE plugin?
There’s not one Sen anymore. This hp comes from the original company now dealing only in the Pro space. The 560, HD600 series, HD800 and all the rest of the consumer products have been bought. So there is no point wondering why Sen brought out these when they already have the others. The answer is they don’t.
Absolutely correct!
I snagged the Senn HD 660S2 for $400 New on a Random Amazon Sale a few days after X-mas. Pleasantly surprised by them. But I'm more pleased because of the Lucky Price Tag I got them at. I'd sit tight on the HD 490 HP's and wait for a deal on them. Price seems a little high
Josh speaking of comfort you should definitely review the Sivga Luan which is priced around 350-400 💲, I am really curious to hear your opinion on these.
Yes
Josh, I guess you now influenced my purchasing decision. It is currently available for €349.- (PRO version) here in Germany. Seems fair.
I really want to see the comparsion between this one and Sony MV1
Ciao Joshua apart of Sennheiser HD 800,what do you prefer beetween HD 600-HD 590, HD 660 s2, HD 650,or the newest HD 490 ? In Italy we saw the HD 600 Sennheiser at 254 euro= 273,43 $$$ a very good price, I bought 2 years ago the HD 560s .According Sound desinger HD 600 remains the best open back Sennheiser,whwat do you think of? thanks for reply and best regards Max from Italy
Would love to see these compared to the Harmonicdyne Zues Elite
Can you do an updated video on headphone pads? It was 3-5 yrs ago. I got the hd490 from your reviews but the depth is hurting my ears, how can i find 3rd party deeper pads for something so new?
Hi Joshua. I would greatly appreciate your opinion on my grail headphone. I have recently purchased a pair of Meze 99 Classics and enjoy them very much. My ambition is to eventually purchase a pair of Meze 109 Pro's. As an music enthusiast, but not a wealthy person by any means, this is the upper limit of what I am prepared to spend. I find them exquisite looking and really appreciate the repairability. My question is this, are they an 80/20 purchase i.e., am I getting 80% of the best sound available on any headphone for around 20% of the upper limit cost, besides the Sennheiser HE-1's and the like, obviously. Thank you.
Dang. I thought there will be comparison with sony mv1 which was marketed also as studio headphones. Since Cd900st and hd6xx series are legendary studio headphones i think the newer generation might be fitting to compared.
I think some of the price includes sennheiser's mixing plugins included if I'm not mistaken.
Again I'll voice my concerns about the headband, plastic/metal hybrids in that fashion such as the Focal Elegia's (and other Focal products) headband is notorious for being a point of failure.
I love the comfort of the HD560s over my HD600 so I always choose them over the 600s when I’m at my desk. I was looking to upgrade to this but doesn’t seem like the upgrade is worth considering it’s not “significantly” better :(
How does this compare to the HD 800S? I am looking for something that's more appropriate for gaming, and more fun when listening to music.
Thanks for being brutally honest with your opinion, I almost bought this, but the reviews I saw were not straight to the point, they didn't compare to anything and the DEAL BREAKER was the price, now that you the bass is not wow and lose etc, which i need bass but clean, am very happy i went with SRH 840A excellent with bass mid and crisp highs, a little brighter but it's okay not clean, reveals things better, i can use it, corrected or as is, it took me forever to choose the shure, it's a pity mist reviewers don't really give us the reality picture.
I mix and.master, I need clearly see what is going on in bass frequency hiphop edm and everything.
These companies are not serious about making a headphone for mixing, the HD most mixing great headphones were discovered by the end users and others started buying them, now they call this 490 pro HD for mixing. Well thankx
Are headphones like this just for music production or do they even sound better by hearing music on SoundCloud? Is the 256kbps audio quality a more bottleneck that this headphones doesn’t sound better than z.B. the Momentum 4 Wireless?
Would you say these are more or less comfortable than the hd800s?
I like the HD660S and original HD800 most.
Beyerdynamic dt1990 pro and hd490 pro which headphones with the same configuration has better sound details?
I splurged quite far past my target budget to get this headphone, thinking I might get the perfect headphone for me. Loved the fit and the sound. But for me it was quite uncomfortable because my ears touched rough surface inside the cups, probably the letters. This caused some friction the tips of my ears. Definitely an Achilles' heel for me. If only the inside was something smooth. I did try to mod this with some silk but that left just significantly less space for the ears in general. I had to return them because of that and kept the HD 560S.
I also figured it might be significantly cheaper down the road. I might still get it then if there would be a way around that inside of the headphone.
I like cheap Sony mdr xb450s looking for upgrade, but it needs to thump and have good detail.
Now if only they would release a consumer version of this at a lower price point, similiar to HD400 Pro vs 560S
How do these compare to the 58x's?
I'm might be interested in the HD490, does it take to EQ well, not heavy handed EQ just some slight tweaks.
Having tested it with EQAPO, I'd say yes! Nothing radical would be needed anyway, judging by how they measure and sound.
@@Protonaut Oh excellent, thank you for that, much appreciated, I was wondering if there would be any distortion given they're a dynamic driver headphone with some minimal EQ adjustments if I needed to tweak the sound slightly more to my tastes.
How are these compared to Maxwell audeze?
How is the Sennheiser HD490 Pro for gaming compared to the DT 1990 pro.
So it sounds like an HD599 but with a different physical design then?
The pads are marketed as having comfort grooves for glasses, is the comfort difference noticeable? I'm curious how it works, is it just an absence of foam underneath the cloth where the glasses arms would be?
You can't really see it, but you can feel a small indent when you run your fingers over the foam. That and the lesser clamping force makes wearing glasses not as annoying when compared to some of the other headphones I've tried over the years(mostly audio tech stuff, marshall and Sony wireless). It's my first Sennheisers though, so I can't really compare it against the other Senns.
TBH the 490 are the most comfy headphones i have ever worn
The headphones are great and all that........but what glasses are those sir? lol
I’d say an “8/10” on all areas of sound performance while being really comfortable is enough to somewhat warrant the price tag. I think the regular version should start at $350 and the Pro Plus should be $400. I don’t think the extra goodies warrant it being $80 more.
I agree! But I also agree with Josh here - at 300, this would be a good deal, and make it a more appealing deal than the 6x series to more people, which is likely what Sennheiser would actually want, since the 6x series went to Sonova recently.
It is nowhere near 8/10. it just isn't. Super comfy though.
@@pokrog I'd say it is - it all comes down to what you're looking for, I suppose. Out of curiosity, what would you consider a "jack-of-all-trades-8/10"-headphone?
@@Protonaut I'm not sure, that's actually a pretty good question. I will say that after using the HD490 Pros for a week straight as the only headphone I used to really feel it out, swapping back to my modded HE6se v2 was quite literally night and day. I felt like I had superhuman hearing and everything was as it should be. If I had to rate the HD490 Pros technicalities, I'd put bass at about a 5, mids around a 6 or 7, treble at maybe a 5, stage was pretty decent and maybe a 7 purely because of the even spherical shape of the stage, separation at maybe a 5, imaging was very good and I'd call that about an 8, overall clarity at maybe a 5 if the HD560s was a 6, timbre a solid 6, detail at maybe 5, tuning with either pad I'd say roughly a 6 or 7 but it's not great with either even if it does work well with some genres. Comfort for me was a solid 9 though with the velour pads, the cloth pads were a little too shallow for me and my ears rested on the inside of the cups a lot. Build seemed great too, light and forgiving with a little flex, but very strong feeling without coming off as brittle. I'd say the HE6se v2 hits all of those at around an 8 or better with bass being a firm 10 and imaging being a 9 or 10. I can't stress enough that going back to them was like I had gloves between my ears when using the HD490s, there just isn't any detail or clarity to speak of with the 490s.
@@pokrog Very interesting! What mods did you do to. The HE6se V2? Haven't tried them myself yet, but looking at a few measurements of these, there seems to be a massive cut at 2k, and some peakiness in the treble. Bass response looks super duper solid though. Do your mods adress any of those things?
Do the Dali IO-12s ❤
been contemplating buying these or getting some moondrop variations. idk
Let's go!! 😀
my biggest concern is clamping force.
8 in all areas, sounds like a win to me
Is it worth upgrading from the 560s for music, listen to lots of music with more bass, and gaming? I was going to get the 660s2 for the extra bass too but would like the soundstage (though if they're close who cares).
Soundwise, I wouldn't say it's worth the extra money at all, the 560s are REALLY good for the money. Only upgrade to these if you have an issue with the comfort or the slight upper mid bump on the 560S, which was the case for me. Other than that, the slight upgrade isn't worth the cost IMO.
Note dont sell 560s buy closed back headphones with good v shape like Shure 840 or sony mdr because open back good at something also closed back one.
Get closed back ones. I use Momentum 3 primarily for heavy base music while on the go (dnb, dubstep) and they are incredibly satisfying.
For comparison - at home I use 660S. Great for gaming and podcasts, terrible for EDM.
@@GoodDay2Smoke that nice and yes open back headphones doesn't have advantage in bass region.
@@GoodDay2SmokeUnfortunately I can't stand closed backs for gaming. I miss the sound stage and imaging so I'm more willing to sacrifice bass for that.
Good to know. Although the fact that you rate the Beyer DT1990 favourably is puzzling.
I thought the DT1990 was one of the most fatiguing headphones I've heard.
Couldn't hear it for longer than 3 mins.
One of the detailed headphones after breaking in
@@LukasBlau If you are referring to the DT1990 then I don’t agree.
I found it very harsh.
Despite burning in for more than 96 hours!
The sense of newfound detail is superseded by fatigue.
I have the HD650 and the HD660, and the drivers in one earcup have developed a connection issue with both. From what I've discovered online, the 600 series use a hair-thin wire connecting the drivers, which breaks easily. As a result of my issue, I've been turned off from Sennheiser 600 headphones. BTW, I also own the Hd800, and have not experienced this issue
Has anyone else experienced this connection issue with the 600 series. Also, does anyone know if Sennheiser has since acknowledged and addressed this issue (eg, using a more rebust, reliable connecting wire)? I've had my headphones for some years; I purchased the HD660 when they were first released.
Or have I misdiagnosed the problem with my cans?
Definitely found myself disagreeing with the 490 Pro vs 660s2 assessment. I preferred the mixing pads on the 490 Pro and found the sound to be damn near my perfect tonality with respectable technicalities to boot, but what made me return them is that 1. my ear touched the inside fabric on the left side and I found it very annoying, and 2. the separation and layering was disappointing to me. Conversely, I find the 660s2 to have nice tight bass (could be more textured), smooth detailed treble, and the most natural mids I've ever heard. Plus, I find the detail, layering, and separation to be a step up from the 490 Pro's. Also, I'm finding the 660s2's to be more comfortable than the 490's were (though my pesky left ear is still touching the driver fabric on the 660s2, but it's MUCH softer and not scratchy like the fabric on the 490's). Oh the wild variability of the human ear lol
I believe you since josh is uncredible
I would agree with you! Luckily, I don't have the ear fabric touching issue myself. I feel like the mixing pads are a little underrated/overlooked by reviewers, which is a real shame. Make bass transients feel tighter too.
For competitive gaming where do these rank under the Sennheiser lineup?
Second best after the HD 800S.
I got the 560S, Beyerdynamic DT 900 PRO X and the 490 Pro is my favorite. Best imaging and comfort.
The driver is identical to the one in the 560s. Other aspects are improved in the 490
This is a common misconception, also in the NDH30 debate. the driver is not identical, the transducer is. they all have different dampening schemes so the driver isn't the same
I own both 560s and 600, and switches them often. I think I got a free 490 pro.
I’ve been waiting for more HD490 reviews. I snagged a pair early based on the performance of my HD 600s and they meet exceptions of the Sennheiser brand. To my ears, the standout attributes compared to the HD600 are better neutrality, detail, and bass response. I rate the HD490 Pros as “very good” and solid all-around. Given it’s a new model + the build quality and comfort, the price point doesn’t bother me. In fact, the heavy duty case with all of the extra accessories feels like a good value, IMO.
So you prefer the HD490 over the HD600...
I will be using these to mix and master with a audient I'd 14 interface.
@@elzycollins - I’ve only had the HD490s for about 7 weeks. I can’t say they are definitively better than HD600s - it’s more a case of being different by design. In a direct comparison, I think most people will find HD490s have slightly better detail across the board/low-mid-highs. The most noticeable difference is a more nuanced bass but the overall sound character is still pretty neutral. Basically, if you like your HD600/6XX/650s then HD490s won’t feel like an upgrade. It’s more of a lateral move to a different category - you’re going from Sennheiser’s tried and true “consumer” sound to a “production” sound. That works for me because I want to hear music that sounds closer to how it was mixed.
diana mr or empyrean 2?
This or the Sony MDR MV1?
Oh man I’m dipping my toes into the audiophile world for the first time and have these on the way to me over the 660s2. Now I’m starting to wonder if I made the wrong decision!
I found myself in similar situations when I first started. Sometimes you just have to jump in and go for it. If you get them on Amazon you can return them if you don't like them. If you aren't in a position to listen to both, maybe get both and return the one you don't want? The area that I'm in doesn't have a lot of places to listen to headphones, so Amazon has saved me a few headaches and it was worth paying a little extra for the ability to return. That's just what has worked for me, so far. Good luck with your choice! 🙂👍
You did not. This could easily be a 600 dollar headphone, is also comparable to the Neumann NDH 30(also owned by Sennheiser) literally twins at this point.
Nah man I just got these and they're my go to headphone now. Easily my favorite out of the dozens I've owned in the past. Mainly for comfort and not having to EQ
It’s possible you may have ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
the HD660S2 has been my all time fav headphone for a while.
Solid review as usual. One minor nitpick is that i can see what looks to be like fingerprints on the products in alot of these shots and its such a shame since i can see you put a lot of effort into making the headphones look good with panning, lighting and placement with probs.
At the sub £500 mark, I haven’t heard a dynamic that can compete with my Edition XS (or my Sundaras with iFi bass enhancement) for bass control and impact. Just my preference, obviously.
Just got the LCD-x. Listening to a review of a 400$ headphone on a 1300$ headphone never felt this first world
RIP your neck
@@Mariscos420 No issues with my neck, listening all day
@@Mariscos420 I don't think there's an issue with the headphone but with how people sit. Your PC/gaming/office chair is supposed to have neck support if you're gonna be sitting for hours, period.
@@Mariscos420 Ah bless - you must be very weak
@@silverfox74Yeah let's ignore that the lcd x is known for being too heavy for many
Hi Joshua, I'm looking for a new headphone for both FPS games and Music, my PC38X has worn down, any recommendation? Preferably under 400
What did you get? Do you like it? I can't decide either.
@@MistikF havent gotten any yet. Still using PC38X
I would absolutely never mix on DT1990Pro without seriously eq on them. Yikes.
Mixing on Sennheiser 600 without eq more reliable than anything else to me. Check mix on something with bass. Job done.
Is this worth getting if you already got a HD650 with Dekoni pads and custom cables
No.
No video chapters ):
I wonder how this compares to my current HD 58X
I think there will be a few of us with the same thought - I think price to performance of the 58x is unbeatable.
Alright, I have to ask: this or the Hifiman Edition XS for just music listening 🤔
My thoughts exactly. Had my XS's for a couple weeks now, and I couldn't imagine going with anything else. Especially considering they were $280 refurbs in brand new condition from HiFiman.
edition xs
XS all day
I think it sounds way better than my Ananda. More natural, soundstage is More realistic. Comfort is no competition so I would take 490 Pro any day.
@@LoyKucciIt? Which one?
I’m guessing they can’t make a 600 with better bass extension without changing the character of the headphone, or introducing an unacceptable level of distortion. maybe they would have better success if they tried making a planar😊
I was able to EQ much better bass on my HD600 without distortion. It's possible but you have to cut rather than adding and this will impact volume especially without an amp.
@@kosmonument2682 I have a fiio e12 portable amp with a bass boost toggle that makes the HD 600 sound like what people are asking for, I almost forgot to mention that
Its certainly tempting but at that price I'll still rec the DT900 Pro X to my friends that want an audiophile / gaming set.
Easily. This is a professional product costing twice as much as it should for a consumer.
I have the 900 Pro X ... upgrading from this is ... complicated :) I know that these are better for gaming, but not in a way that is worth almost the double of the price.
I keep asking do I want these? The competition is fierce. I have history with Sennheiser. Is this a winner? Or just another maybe.
I’m good with my 650’s 😊
I own both the HD 560S and HD 490 Pro headphones. In my opinion, the HD 490 Pro is essentially an improved, professional version of the HD 560S. Personally, I believe the name 'HD 560 Pro' would be more appropriate for this headphones.
Hello, could you mention the improvements, apart from comfort, please?
feel like every Senn headphone in the 400-600 ish range is just a variation of each other then something completlely different.