Yeah the “Bigger than T. rex” trope is tired. They need to let it go, especially when it’s not even accurate. Either pick the Rex, or as you said a mutated Rex that looks like the V. Rex or even creepier through growth hormones and give it some messed up looking teeth. OR, don’t even include a fight. Just make a giga (a better looking one than what we got) and have it be the only large threat. Give us multiple gigas. We don’t need a fight every movie. This isn’t a cage match, or a Transformers movie.
This is beautifully said. Jurassic movies have become a carnivore battle shlockfest. A battle for the sake of a battle when there’s plenty of other avenues they could go with
Thanks for the pin! Agreed. The way every JW movie has gone, we now expect a fight at the end. So basically, we don’t need to pay attention to anything else because we know there will be a fight and that’s all anyone cares about. That’s all anyone is waiting for. Why bother with a movie then? We can watch YT videos for dino fights.
@Cavan Right. And there seems to even be some models that show they’re similar length. Not sure which is taller, but looking at both from the front...Rex would be like a bear and giga would be a big cat of the same height. Which would you rather get hit by? Neither obviously, but the big cat will be my choice.
As another TH-cam video pointed out in the fight between Spino and T Rex, it would have been virtually impossible to break its neck that way because T rex had a grotesque amount of muscle connecting its head, neck, and shoulders. I mean, it literally had no other choice, it had no freaking arms anymore. So the idea that any known dinosaur other than another T Rex had the jaws and bite strength to inflict a death blow is absurd, let alone getting into a contest of physical strength. T rex was an absolute tank, hence why it was the most successful therapod carnivore of it's time.
Thats a classic misunderstanding, Spino in JP3 did not broke the neck of Trex with his jaw. He snapped it, otherworldly he twisted it with his arm and with the help of a jaw that is mainly made for grappling.
@@trigz8626 I know, Spino used an amount of wrist flexibility and dexterity that it couldn't possibly physically have to break the T rex's neck, which was impossible to do anyways. The amount of muscle T rex had in its neck would have made it impossible for its neck to be broken in that fashion, let alone with one arm. There's a TH-cam video on here somewhere where a paleontologist goes over all the inaccuracies in the Jurrasic park movies, and basically he points out that Spino would have been dead the instant T rex bit down on its neck like that. Bones would have been crushed, the spinal cord would have been severed in multiple places, and the esophagus and throat would have been punctured and crushed.
Said it precisely. Giganotosaurus body plan including its jaw structure was not built to insta-kill a T. Rex since it prey wasn’t like the ones T. Rex faced. T. Rex gets the dub
@@Gamma138 But it was Larger and Faster, but it definitely was no where near as intelligent or as powerful as the T-Rex, it’s the reason they literally needed to hunt in packs of around 3-4 Individuals.
You forgot one thing, what the t-rex had and what the Giga didn't, which is very important. Stereoscopic vision - binocular perception of depth and distance, a type of visual perception that allows you to judge distance to objects you see. T-rex is the pure killing machine.
Yep. And another thing rex had that giga doesn’t…. Bone crushing, conical shaped teeth versus razor sharp, smaller teeth. One bites to crush bone and pulverize flesh, the other bites to cause bleeding and prolonged damage
@@connormcmurphy4276 Exactly. A T-rex would have crushed Gig in a duel. That's the truth. He would be injured for sure, but he would not have died, as it was shown in the prologue.
The "Bigger Than T-Rex" trope is the same as the "Evil Superman" trope for me, it's starting to get old, it's okay to dislike T-Rex but that doesn't give you the right to try to one up it every chance you get, giga and spino are cool and interesting dinosaurs but they only beat the T-Rex in length, nothing else
Exactly! They just grasp at carnivorous dinosaurs and try to overhype them up so that way T. Rex can be seen as weaker and this new dinosaur as the king of all carnivorous dinosaurs that can easily kill T. Rex etc. Also the “T. Rex of the ___” trope
To add, Charcharodontosaurids like Giganotosaurus had to turn their heads sideways just to get a better view because of the way their eye sockets are positioned in their skull. T.Rex meanwhile has excellent binocular vision at the front.
Giganotosaurus evolved this way because it hunted large slow prey like sauropods, so excellent vision wasn't very necessary when you can see your prey easily from a mile away. This is true to the related allosaurids which primarily hunted sauropods as well.
@@giagarex to be fair it's vision was probably relatively good , after all it's still a predator and predators tend to have better vision than their prey , it's vision was probably pretty good it just didn't have good depth perception , T.Rex needed a great depth perception because it needs to stay away from the defences of it's prey and aim for a spesific spot to take it down to avoid injury as much as possible. Giganotosaurus didn't have this problem because it could bite any part of it's prey and bleed it out just as effectively. The low mobility of it's prey allowed it to take it's time instead of rushing in for an instant kill like T.Rex has to do in order to take down it's prey without getting stabbed to death. This is the exact reason why it's really unfair to compare other theropod dinosaurs to T.Rex because T.Rex is built to kill armored prey as quickly as possible.
What bothers me is every time rexy fought another big bad dino,she was not in her prime,she is old,and she does not look nearly as intimidating as she did in the first film..the only advantage she brings to the table is experience,but she is fightning dinos that are in their prime,and even if/when she lands a bite,these movies severly weakend a t rex bite as apposed to real life,any bite from an adult t rex will crush bone,and the only rival it had was another t rex
THANK YOU!!! It's getting real tiresome seeing the Tyrannosaurus always get downplayed and humiliated in battle with other large carnivores when it should be the undisputed winner (including both size and power), particularly in this franchise where it serves as the icon and star attraction! They have not handled the T-Rex right since JP3 started this obnoxious and unfortunate trend, and it's a damn shame. I absolutely despise that whole "bigger and badder than T-Rex" trope and I don't understand why they weirdly keep thinking it's a good idea.
Because business, but the vast majority of people watching this dont care about Trex or any other creatures, they care about the plot. Only cringe fan cry about the big boohoo dino that died against another boohoo dino.
@@trigz8626 thry care about the plot? They only cared about the plot in jurassic park and the lost world, which were the movies were the dinosaurs including rex were best implemented
Anytime anyone’s ever said something about T.Rex having “puny” arms, my retort has always been: “You don’t need big arms when you can basically one shot every living thing in your environment with your face. It’s worked well for crocs and sharks all these years, after all.”
“You don’t need big arms when you can basically one shot every living thing in your enviorment with your face” is the most fitting quote for a T. rex ever
@@unnaturaldodo to be honest Jurassic Park 3 didn't get it right because it would have well heavily injured the spinosaurus if they didn't want the spinosaurus to die Jurassic world it is fair because it is a imaginary dinosaur slithery hybrid dinosaur so really it could have a durability increase expression due to the fact that has ankylosaurus DNA which is why it has well some type of armor like the Ankylosaurus so it taking bites from a T-Rex's is plausible
It has become somewhat of a trope to have a larger carnivore and compare it to the T-Rex and have it fight the Tyrannosaurus and defeat it with relative ease, I really wish they would stop that, you don't have to always do that to show how cool the new dinosaur is, they're animals not monsters, Giganotosaurus and Spinosaurus are such amazing animals in their own right, they don't need to be compared to something else, as for the Hybrids, I Never was much of a fan of the Idea, The Indominus Rex was ok but I really think they should have stopped with it.
I agree the Trex would win most of the time. It's purely situational as we don't know what could happen. I agree though a Trex would win 90 percent of the time against a Giga or Spino in real life.
The Giganotosaurus is more agile, before it was even bigger in length, but with the presence of Scotty things have changed. Before it was thought that the T. REX did not reach 13 meters in length, the largest Giganotosaurus is 13.20 meters long, with Scotty instead it was seen that he too exceeded 13 meters, in fact it is currently the most massive theoropod that is never existed. The tyrannosaurus surpassed in all the Giganotosaurus, it was more intelligent, it had the most powerful bite of all the animals that lived on dry land, it had the best sight and it could look ahead, which cannot be said the same of the dear "Giga". 'only thing that the Giganotosaurus had more .. It was agility, but for the rest forget it.
@@thevengefuloness I agree I love the Giga it's my most favorite dino. However I feel that the battle would be fairly one sided however it is situational
@@trigz8626 To be fair, gigas hunted sauropods in packs, in a solo battle the giga would lose against a t rex undoubtably. But in a pack, it's a different story
Giga was built as a slender animal design to cut and dash, meanwhile T Rex was packed with muscles built for a fight and T Rex was one of the smartest dinosaurs too
Trex? One of the smartest? Yeah no, more like hypothetical non-proved bullshit. You would be surprised how much damage a cut on the major artery of the neck can do to a « packed with muscles » body.
A recent study suggests that the study that Tyrannosaurus was smart is disputed. Even when the study about intelligence was made, it ALREADY sparked massive scientific debate since they believed it was as smart as a baboon, which is now likely no longer true.
To quote Edwardo from Foster’s Home. “No Giganotosaurus is the tallest. T Rex is the biggest.” Anyway thanks for the explanation, I always felt the power of the T. rex and it’s powerful bite force always seem to be underestimated in these films.
@@spider-man500 I support you giganotosaurus it really is big South America it's the dinosaurs because it's not REX BIG, so I don't hate that it's disrespectful it's the biggest giga, OK
T. rex is actually not so overrated as people must think because it had the strongest bite force of any known land animal ever and was built like a tank. The speed of t tex I hear a bunch of conflicting things, they used to think it was pretty fast and could run at 30mph and then they said it was extremely slow and was slower than a person. Then recently I heard a paleontologist say that T. rex could easily outrun a person. I really don’t know. But either way it was probably terrifying to come across. It’s vision was most likely amazing too
Yeah rex was slow, but any carnivore that got close enought to attack rex, had to enter the bite zone, so yeah, rew wouldn't be able to go behind a giga but if a giga got close enough to attack the rex, rex would be in range to kill the giga
You're right on there brother. I'm not just saying that I've talked to a few paleontologist over the years when I've visited sue, and they all say that T-Rex would win a fight more often than not against any other large carnivorous species. It's just way more advanced in terms of eyesight smell brain processing power bite force skeletal structure the list could go on. The tyrannosaurus Rex was literally the most advanced meat eating dinosaur we've ever discovered so far and the most studied. Don't get me wrong Rex wasn't invincible against other large carnivorous species it wouldn't win every time, but it would win majority of the time
You said it yourself, the most studied. You cant claim that a pencil is the sharpest of the box if its the only pencil in the friking box. And I dont know why people think that Trex would win more often against another similar giant Theropod… Depend on who get the first critical bite, thats it. Why would Trex have the first bite 90% of the time? It got the biggest face out of them, its very probably harder for him to move it around. Honestly I think that giga would win most of the time, all he need is one bite to kill it, blood loss can kill as much as crushed bone. Plus he’s probably a little faster. This comment section is not critical, its always one sided and no one look at the other side. They treat animals as fricking pokemon with stat.
@@trigz8626 You act like the rex doesn't have massive neck muscles to move it's head around. The trex beats giga 80% of the time. Nothing the giga can do will help especially since the rex has the agility on it's side also. They're as agile as a theropod half their size. They'll easily fuck a giga up. No one cares about your bias. Come with facts and not bias. So far the only thing you said right is who gets the first big bite in. But good luck that happening with giga. Their eyes are positioned more like iguanas than us. In other words they have horrible frontal vision where the rex has the most advanced frontal eye sight of any animal to ever exist. Giga evolved to hunt sauropods which explains why it's eyes are positioned more on the sides of it's head instead of forward
@@trigz8626 lol Giga doesn't kill T-Rex in one bite 😂. Are you even listening to what you're saying here? Giga needs multiple bite to weaken T-Rex with blood loss while T-Rex will only need one bite to cripple it, it's neck, hands, back any of it will be crushed with just one placed bite. And giga needs to get close to T-rex to deliver a bite, getting bit in return. T-Rex will win 80-20 lol.
@@trigz8626 tyrannosaurus fought each other all the time in brutal ways, biting on the neck, behind the head, and face and they still walked out fine, also their jaws are made for crushing bones, but they still survive those encounters with each other. A giganotosaurus jaws wouldn't do jack shit, they are also made for a different way of killing.
you're right. i mean, its scientifically true that the t rex wasnt this 'tiny' dinosaur compared to the giga and spino. and recent studies already showed it was much bigger than before. its definitely heavier than the giga. i dont remember for sure but it should be bigger than the spino in terms of weight. t rex was essentially the smartest and most agile theropod too. the bite force was insane compared to the others. its skull was very powerful for head butts too. its extremely thick neck and lots of muscle helped with even taking neck bites.
Idk why they keep having them fight each other instantly. Honestly, I feel like the massive predators probably tried to stay away from each other. It's like the big cats we see nowadays. There was a time they had a tiger, a lion, and a bear in a cage and they tried to stay away from each other. I'm sure they would try not to risk getting themselves injured unless they had no choice. Like some people have said these are animals, not monsters.
They could have made the giga a bleeder, faster and with much more stamina. Meanwhile the t rex is a brawler that does massive damage but at the cost of speed and energy. Theri could have been a zone fighter that traps the enemy in an area. But the final fisht is The most dissappinting fight in the entire franchise.
And analyses of T. rex pelvic bones and connective tissues thwy would’ve had, has lended some credence to the belief that T. rex was actually fairly agile for a large therapod…more agile than other species.
Fax like out of all them I’m not fighting the turkey but Rex yea I’ll take my chances and giga but not hand to jaw combat more like us my brain and size to my advantage causing them to harm themselves without me doing anything really
Giga wouldn't have more stamina as it's body shape doesn't support largest lungs and heart than the rex. Same reason why bears have greater stamina than cats, more barrel shaped body supporting a larger heart and lungs.
@@connormcmurphy4276Agile, yes! But not locomotion/running speed in which giga takes the cake. Agility also usually means worse stamina as constantly jolting up your nervous system can affect you gas tank much faster. Another evidence for a bad gas tank is T Rexes are also more bulkier/heavier. Though, I think the Rex will be fine as long as he picks his shots. The Giga needs a strategy regarding getting some bites and backing off in order to have a chance.
t. rex was the heaviest carnivore dinosaur, the most intelligent (megatheropod) after troodontids, had probably the best sight of any animal, yeah even birds of prey, had one of the best smells of any dinosaur and had the strongest biteforce of any land animal ever, so yeah, rex wins basically every carnivore in a fight to death. I will always defend T. rex as the best predator that has ever walked the earth, cause it is objectively one of the best predators, but the day something stronger is discovered I will accept it, not like spino fans when they discovered how the real spino was (don't get me wrong, spino is a great dinosaur and a very fascinating creature, but it isn't the monster some people want it to be)
And T-Rex was actually EXTREMELY Intelligent, extremely, almost comparable to that of Human Intelligence, yes they were still far from this but they were decently Close to it all things considered. But Giga was actually Bigger than T-Rex, not by a lot, but it was. It definitely had a much weaker bite force which is why it had to turn to just slashing and clawing it’s prey to ware them down and let them bleed to death. And they weren’t as heavier and weaker in overall strength, but were much much faster and had to hunt in packs of around 3-4 individuals.
@@GameraEditZ giga is slightly longer in average, but when we say if an animal is big, we use weight, and average rex is heavier than average giga, so rex is bigger
@@ender_z4nd3r83 Not necessarily, when we say big it can go both ways for them, and The Giga was slightly Larger in length and height, don’t remember specifically how much but it wasn’t a lot but still was noted regardless
@@GameraEditZ it is sligthly longer and higher, but rex is stronger and heavier, and thats what matters, giga is not longer or higher enought to make a difference
@@ender_z4nd3r83 I already know The Rex is Heavier and just overall more powerful but I was just pointing the size difference and I’m not saying that changes anything I’m just pointing it ouy
I’d love to see a herbivore. Given they could actually fight a trex it’d be cool to switch things up. And you don’t need to paint them as villains either. Just have them defending their territory or just being animals. Like I’d love to see a badass trike or anky. Antagonist isn’t always evil, it’s just the opposite of the protagonist
btw this giga in jwd is an imaginary version since the prologue is in the 66-65 million years ago and in north america, so technically this giga is an evolved animal that had evolved to compete with the trex making this giga a fake and not a real giga, a real giga would get killed and pushed around easily
It's also strange how tyrannosaurus evolved to such size while giganotosaurus was still around in jp universe. The only explanation is that tyrannosaurus was slowly out competiting giganotosaurus somehow. I mean, look how many variations of Trexes there are and theres only 1 giga.
Okay, I’m VERY biased towards the T-Rex, spoiler warning!!! When Rexy got up after supposedly dying I was so hyped I think I almost yelled in the theater, but no matter how sharp or strong the bite force of a carnivorous teeth is, I’m pretty sure a bite to a VERY unprotected neck can cause fatal damage, not to mention that I’m pretty sure that dragging somethings neck with carnivores teeth like a rag doll can cause severe damage!
Yup, I was In a cinema room with only 4 other people, my mum and 3 teenage girls, when rexy got up, one of the girls yelled: HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT WORK!??!!!????
I enjoyed Jurassic World about as much as the original Jurassic Park, then just like the Jurassic Park trilogy the Jurassic World trilogy declined in believability and credibility... sacrificing accuracy for action and novelty.
@@MoparMikeMM It never was accurate, all of them are genetically modified monsters since JP1. Nothing changed on that matter. And other dinosaurs deserve as much love as the Trex do. He already have too much for the most boring of all theropod anyway lol
@@trigz8626 idk about the most boring, it's obvious still controversial, but seeing that it evolved in a way that other theropods didn't is pretty cool to me.
Thank you! Hmmm interesting point about rotational inertia (I assume that's what you meant), I haven't heard about that point before. I'd look into it!
Actually it’s impossible to know, since giga is far from being as studied as Trex. But I highly doubt that a 8-9 ton predator would be less agile than 10 ton one. Both of them are very agile anyway.
@@trigz8626 It is known that giga is less agile based on it's skeletal structure. Giga is very well studied actually. Rex is only more known about cause it's been around for over 100 years but the info we knew of it then is wrong now. They believed theropods walked upright back then lmao. Just cause it's been known and studied longer doesn't mean that past info was right. In actuality the rex and giga have been studied an equal amount
For decades, I've had to watch Tyrannosaurus Rex lose I almost walked out of JP 3 Then the absolute blasphemy of King Kong 2005, defeating 3 T Rex's at once I almost lost it
All i can say is that if these two fight it'll be a very violent fight. T Rex has better chance of winning. But if the Giga somehow made the t Rex trip it could lethal for the Rex since he's so heavy.
No need to make it trip, both of them can end the other easily. Trex crush bone and giga cut thing, both have different attributes. If a trex bite the neck of a giga then that giga is probably dead. If a giga bite the neck of a Trex, then that Trex is also probably dead. Think of it this way: I can kill you by crushing your neck but I can also kill you by cutting your throat. Both have their own ways of killing, but keep in mind that while its weaker than Trex’s, giga also have a powerful bite. But realistically, they would probably not fight, they would probably just avoid each other because injuries are generally mortal in the animals kingdom.
@@trigz8626 I'm aware about that detail about the giga's bite. The way you explained it is logic. It's like comparing a sharp hammer and big dagger in some way.
@@trigz8626 if the giga bite's the rex's neck then that isn't going to work, rex has thick skin which is built to take damage from the herbs like trike which would easily end a giga, rexes would even fight each other, keep in mind, rex would've caused more bleed lost to animals, so if a rex can handle bites from other rexes i doubt a giga's bite would do anything
@@Juan.R.Vera_LR uh no. But T-Rex had a massive neck. To bite there means to get in T-Rex range. It's a trade off, one bite Giga, one bite T-Rex. Giga will get the shorter end of that stick.
To add salt to the injury, Theropod Arms where not really effective weapons in fights due to their anatomy, they could easily broke, specially if they tried to "box" their opponents like bears as people like to portrai the Giga or Spino using their claws, in fact they could land one good blow before getting to know that was a bad idea for them or straight up broke their arms, hence why Abelisaurids and Tyrannosaurids evolved smaller arms, they didn´t need them. As for the fight of meanest theropod, forgett it, the Rex was a Maxed out and broken card by nature, it simply evolve much better trades than any other theropod (excepting some dromeosaurids)
T-Rex was also crazier...they're the only carnivore I know of period that were so territorial and unafraid of engaging in a life threatening fight. I could totally see the Giga just peacing out and leaving rather than risk its life fighting a T-Rex.
Was not an hybrid and it never was lol Plus idk what sub adult you talk about And as for Rexy well she can die in whatever dirty hole if she want to, her and all the other as far as I am concerned. If that can calm those cringe « internet fan war »
In real life, yes. The same with Spinosaurus. However, if they applied real bite force then there would be no antagonistic predator. People need to understand that they're not going completely accurate with these movies, and probably never going to. The casual audience wants fights and spectacle, not one-sided matches. We know a Rex bite would have killed the Spino or Giga, or even potentially crippled the Indo. It's just a turn-off your brain situation with these movies. Sure they could go other avenues with these interactions, but they won't. It was a thing since 2001 and I doubt it'll change anytime going forward.
Dont know if you are aware of this but… you know that bite force is far from being the only factor in a fight right? Those 2 predators can both kill each other easily if they get a critical bite you know. A powerful bite means nothing if the one having it do not get the chance to use it, vice-versa.
Exactly! Giganotosaurus may be a taller and longer Dino, but it ain’t as strong as a Tyrannosaur because a T-Rex is heavier (10 or more tons > 8-9 tons), it has a stronger bite force (Rex’s teeth are made to crush while Giga’s teeth are made for cutting), and it’s more durable, as its weight is explanatory. This is just according to paleontology I researched.
@@Zenoprism but they said the prologue was meant to be the most accurate representation of prehistoric life in the whole franchise, and then they made a monstrous, crocodilian Giganotosaurus jump through time and space to (somehow) kill a Tyrannosaurus at the end of the Cretaceous. Not to mention the anachronistic and/or misplaced Dreadnoughtus, Iguanodon, Nasutoceratops, and Oviraptor.
@@swaggasaurus_rex was talking about the dinosaurs during modern time, but yeah the prologue is BS. I feel like it would be hard to replace the dinosaurs in the JP series since the dinosaurs are characters themselves but I enjoyed the part in dominion where they slowly introduced some more "accurate" dinosaurs. I'm not a huge dino nerd but yeah JP isn't meant to be accurate and I like it when it sates in the universe itself its not. Only real problems with the JP franchise is when they try to play something off as accurate.
Paleontologist:"Tyrannosaurus Rex has the highest bite force of all terrestrial theropods with the capability to crush bones." Writers in Hollywood and video games:"imma pretend not to hear that"
real life yeah trex beats up giga, but in jp it opposite since giga is stronger, i mean it apparent now jp dino are differnt to real dino look no further then the spino, mosa or even the raptors, it clear giga is stronger then a real world giga
Tyrannosaurus Rex (Tyrant Lizard King) the extinct species of theropod would have won most fights with other dinosaurs including Giganotosaurus, Spinosuarus, etc. Since it's bite force was extremely high and crush bones.
I’m a huge giga fan but I’ll admit irl of course T. rex would win unless giga was extremely lucky. I think this interpretation this was a fictional different species of giga, let me explain. Since these dinosaurs lived in different time periods it wouldn’t make sense for them to encounter each other, another thing being that the giga lived in South America while the T. rex lived in North America. This would explain why the giga was larger and looked different compared to its irl counterpart, having a more crocodilian look and heavier, larger size. Just my theory tho
Gigas were built to take down massive slow lumbering sauropods (far slower and less inteligent than T Rex) by bleeding them to death. It’s like a fight between a komodo dragon and a tiger. The comodo is longer but the tiger is bulkier and has a stronger bite force
I wish instead of rexy the spino fought giga so that we would have gotten something fresh and The trex would have been cut some crap, poor rexy is so old and beat up... They ruined her legacy by showing her being defeated
People are trying to apply logic in JW bruh, we all know a rex would probably win against a giga in real life, but these are modified animals, its even stated that T-rexes bite was nerfed because it wasn't in its pure form, although, if we take the pure form of the giga in the JW universe, then Giga also claps
In real life: T-rex wins. Scotty is the biggest carnivore to ever walk the earth. In Dominion: Giga wins. Giga is the biggest carnivore to ever walk the earth, not accurate but still enjoyable. (still smaller and inferior to Adult I-rex, so don't expect too much) Also Rexy was like 7-8 tons, the Giga was 10+ tons, which made him the 2nd largest dino after the Adult I-rex. But since the Adult I-rex never appeared, then it still goes to Giga. Wanna know what if Adult I-rex appeared? Alan Grant's line to the Giga will be like this: "the 2nd largest carnivore the world have ever seen." Also this is jurassic franchise, so don't take it too serious into the real world, it's just for entertainment. Even in the movie Giga bullies Rexy in 1v1, but at least Rexy is able to pull it off with the help of Therizinosaurus. Btw it seems your video took quite effort, keep it up, it's a good video.
You’re assessment is completely correct. Scotty would’ve definitely defeated the Giga, and Sue. Although I think there will be T. Rexes we find that will be larger than Scotty. Guess we’ll see! Also your Giga mass numbers you gave are supposed to be for JW Dominion numbers they gave out or actual real life numbers? Anyway thank you, I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the video!
@@Gamma138 the 10+ tons Giga is from Dominion. In real life, it was actually the opposite, Giga is the 7 tons and Scotty is the 10+ tons. The movie just swap those numbers for the exact same two different dinosaurs, what a coinsidence.
The Giga would have taken an L but in the Prologue Rexy actually slipped off the ground they were standing while the Giga had it's teeth around her neck thus slitting her throat and in the film She lost cause of a massive age gap. All these gave the Giga a higher advantage compared to what Rexy was delt with.
Yep you’re right it would’ve taken an L. As for prologue, I’m not sure if it really had an age gap. You could assume both were at their prime during the prologue battle. As for the slip, the slip definitely gave an advantage to Giga, but I’m not sure if that would slit its throat. Anyway thanks for commenting!
I see no reason for the three biggest theropods to fight each other when they all hunt different prey; Tyrannosaurus eats heavily armed dinosaurs too powerful for the others to fight Giganotosaurus eats giant sauropods too massive to deal with without the proper weapons Spinosaurus eats slippery fish too agile (and possibly poisonous) for the other two to catch
I have to respectfully disagree, while also not agreeing with the film per se. In terms of who could kill who, consider this. T.rex also has way blunter teeth and could not rend through muscle and flesh as effectively as the giant carnosaur. Getting bitten across the neck by a (time warping) Giga would be just as devastating as the other way around, just for different reasons. Yes, the absolute maximum T.rex specimens are bigger, but there is only one point of reference for Giga to use as only the holotype had a substantial amount of skeletal material. The Giga holotype is smaller than the likes of absolutely huge T.rex individuals like Sue and Scotty, but it is also larger than the majority of T.rex adult specimens like Black Beauty and Sampson. It's virtually identical in size to the holotype T.rex by happenstance, which most likely either average or slightly above average for a T.rex. All animals exist in gradients of size with most individuals being average. Comparing the average T.rex to the almost certainly (as it is smaller than more fragmentary remains) average Giganotosaurus in the holotype, the result is the two are virtually identical in weight. The T.rex is possibly slightly taller and the Giganoto slightly longer. As for the T.rex being more advanced, not particularly true. The mental processing portions of the brains were both quite comparable, being very similar to modern crocodilians (who themselves are actually quite intelligent and on par with mammalian predators and predatory birds, so this isn't shabby). The larger spans of the T.rex brain were almost exclusively developed for smell and hearing. And considering intelligence and smell wouldn't really factor in this kind of battle, any differences wouldn't really impact the end result. I'd honestly say either has a good chance of killing the other, just depends on who gets that first good hit. Even if one was genuinely a bit heavier than the other, the difference is so small as to not really factor all that much unless we got a well-above average individual of one genus vs. a below-average individual from the other.
@@Adolphus_of-bysantanium That's assuming it can land that hit. It could, but it won't be easy. Likewise, if the Giga bit the Tyrannosaurus across the neck, it has a good chance of slashing the throat open or shredding the neck muscles.
@@Adolphus_of-bysantanium yes, and that's why I never said the Giga was automatically going to win either. I see either as having a roughly equal chance of killing the other and a fight would just break down to whoever got that first good shot in. What my argument was is that the Tyrannosaurus bite pressure does not guarantee it in automatic win like some people think it does.
@@Tarbtano You are absolutely right. Could not have said it better, it’s important to not stay one sided in such a matchup (as much people here seem to be) and you were perfectly balanced (as all thing should be) in term of measuring the default and quality of each one of them.
If I was making a dinosaur movie and having a T-Rex going up against other large theropods, I would use scientifically accurate evidence behind each of these dinosaurs. I was a little upset that the director didn't allow Rexy to use the experience fighting the Indominus against the Giganotosaurus.
Is a Jurassic Park/World Franchise, the Jurassic Park/World Franchise are not documentalls. The Giga in Dominion Can Defeat an T-Rex but in the Real Live not
That is very true. But I’m trying to dispel this misinformation that will now be repeated over and over again by general audience members that Giga was the biggest carnivorous terrestrial animal, all thanks to Dominion
As the CrazyPaleo once said: "I'll tell you this: they're both going to die, no matter who comes out the winner (if there's a winner at all). The two animals will break each other's ribs, turn their jaws and bite throught their tails in half a minute, then they can't walk and die of blood loss or trivial blood poisoning within a day or two, and that's it".
Another reason why the Gigantosaurus wouldn't kill Tyrannosaurus Rex 🦖 in the prehistoric times. Is because they lived in 2 different places at different. Lol. Tyrannosaurus Rex 🦖: North America. Gigantosaurus: South America.
Well. We can do simple maths if we want to be accurate (I see people using this word randomly in the comments). Average size of adult T.Rex is arround ~11.75 metres (if not a bit less but I grant this to the fans) and ~6500 kg. Scotty and Sue are the BIGESTS individuals ever found and don't represent the average size (there are arround 20 adult T.Rex skeletons). They are bulky and large, representing also the heavy morphotype (not all of them was like that). And yes, they are the two heaviest known terophods right now. In the other hand we have only 2 specimens of Giganotosaurus. Holotype is ~12.2-12.5 depending on the reconstruction with a calculated weight arround 6300-6500 kg. Well this specimen is already noticeably larger and taller than average T.Rex, and weights pretty the same. Giganotosaurus paratype is between 3 to 8% bigger than holotipe if we just compare the bones directly. Some guys say "well, maybe this specimen had just bigger maxila but the same size". And why? The point is that we could also think that the second specimen was even bigger that direct comparison is showing us and it had smaller head... So, we just take the measurements as direct extrapolation. We get an animal ~13 metres and pretty close in weight to Sue. 8000 vs 8800 or similar gap. Sue was bigger, yes. But we have to compare average T.Rex with average Giganotosaurus. Average T.Rex ~11.8/6500kg (bulky morph) vs Average Giga ~12.7/7000kg. So.... People who say as general imformation that Giga was bigger is just right. We are not comparing individuals, we compare different species. Note: using probability the two specimens of Giga should be average size. Most common size is way easier to find. If some day we have +20 Giganotosaurus specimens, some of them will be bigger than that, almost sure (and other smaller obviously). It's not about a bad film plot, is about numbers and facts.
like someone said, "which dinosaur is better than this other dinosaur is the most boring question you can ask about this amazing creatures, t. rex wins tho"
@@Gamma138 one thing that is funny is that if you want to find something that can beat a t. rex you don't need to go 30 millions years before (before rex lived) and some miles apart (giga). Just look at rex environment and you will find the genus that killed most rexes, a fucking 10 ton horned dinosaur, the mighty triceratops, iirc scientists suggested a 80% win rate in favour of triceratops, but what can you spect from people that has grown thinking herbivore dinosaurs existed just to die, when in reality herbivores would have survived most encounters against carnivores of the same size, that people should go to Africa and try to pet a hippo or a rhino, they wont ever again think of herbivores as meat sacs PD: you should do a critic to a video that instead of using examples like mine: trike, anky. They did a tier list of carnivores that could beat Rex, when we know there isn't one, they even spread lies like the 18 metres spino.
That shark teeth are efficient at slicing through tissue and can sever any major arteries like somebody with a knife can do. Plus the speed and stamina advantage Gigas most likely have due to their built. I'm not saying that Gigas are better than T-Tex, but them being close in size would give Gigas a chance vs the Tyrant King instead of it completely one-sided. Idk about 1v1 fights, but at least this proves that Gigas are more efficient Sauropod killers than T-Rex.
You covered all the important factors on the real Tyrant Lizard King. I tip my hat to you. We should always remember that the Jurassic films are still a fictional universe, which is why the dinosaurs in films are often very different (and this ignores the in-universe explanation for why), but the fact still is that what we know about the real T. Rex tells us that it is powerhouse, and for certain it would win most of the time if it fought the Spino or Giga. That being said, at least the Giga wasn’t treated as being on steroids like the Spino was in JP3. I’m sorry Spino fans, but if that first bite was from a real T. Rex, Spino’s head would have come clean off or least his neck would be broken. Also, the whole twisting thing the Spino did would be physically impossible not only for the Spino itself to do, but the T. Rex is known for having a very strong neck-twisting that would be a tough feat to pull even with fully capable arms. Yes, these are films, but that interpretation of the Spino is one of the most ludicrous in the series. I forgive it a bit for lack of info on the real Spino back in 2000, but still, I can’t ignore the established factors we have now. I sure as heck can laugh at the JP3 fight, though.
Dominion was so trash. The final battle makes no sense. If the giga is actually better than the rex to the point of destroying it in a few minutes, let it win. The giga did nothing villainous throughout the entirety of Dominion; no matter who wins, it doesn't matter. Instead, they make the t.rex look like garbage and then deny natural selection by making the pathetic rex team with a dinosaur that it has never met against the giga. Such a lame ending.
I hated the fact that the Giga killed the T rex so easily in the prologue. Atleast let him put up a fight before dying. And they have to stop giving Rexy help and instead let him try to handle a fair 1v1 cuz Ion even think a T rex would work with other Dinosaurs. They have to stop making my goat look so weak compared to other large carnivores.
Gigas irl where slightly bigger than Rex's in terms of height. But in terms of size the spino is taller longer and heavier but remember that it is only estimated. Another dinosaur larger is charcharodontosaurus which is slight bigger in terms of proportions but not in weight.
Spinosaurus was the longest of the three , if you are talking about height though giganotosaurus edges it over the other two and because nature doesn't mind that it will keep humans arguing for all eternity, the Tyrannosaurus has the absolute advantage in terms of mass, so please enjoy the discussion of which is the largest of the three , and know that each has a valld claim as to which the biggest terrestrial carnivore to ever have walked the world! Haha, But seriously the whole thang sucks Haha Oh well and in the case to where I happen to throw my own opinion happens to be?, Rex takes this one every single time without an issue. I doubt that anyone has any interest in why I believe this to be the case, but if you are interested in why I believe this is the case just tell me and I'll tell you why I say this is and I'll tell you dear friends O mine! (L
Honesty I'd love to see something like a carcharodontosaurus face the rex It's basically the tyrant but with bladed teeth The giga and spino would realistically get wrecked by the rex But the carchar has a chance It's lethal
Jurassic park: Hey look at this cool T-Rex! JP 2: alr I don’t remember much of this movie, I just remember there being a baby T. rex and velociraptors, anyways, cool! JP 3: HEY GUYS REMEMBER THAT T-REX? LOOK AT THIS SPINOSAURUS IT CAN BEAT HIM WOW SO COOL WE MADE STAKES HIGHER Jurassic world: HeY GuYs ThErE’s An InDoMiNuS rEx ItS BiGgEr AnD bAdDeR aNd CaN bEaT T-Rex CoMe SeE JW 2: Hey guys there’s this clone girl who likes dinos a lot cause she thinks they are cool so she’s gonna release a bunch of invasive species all over the planet for their “well being” (reminds me of cat owners) JW 3: LOL THE STAKES JUST GOT HIGHER HERE IS GIGANOTOSAURUS, BEAT THAT T REX
The fight in the prologue at least made sense as both animals were nearly exact equals in experience and the Giganotosaurus’s sharper teeth would’ve helped move the T-Rex like we see in the prologue, as the teeth digging into its neck and the sudden shift in balance forced the T-Rex to move to stay standing. And even then The Giganotosaurus wasn’t really able to injure the tyrannosaur, relying on the ditch to survive. But the fight at the end of the film made almost no sense. This time around Rexy is much, much more experienced than Zeb. She’s had a speed boost as a clone making her much faster. A strength boost (idk but I’m partially sure a normal tyrannosaurus Rex would be able to stop a helicopter). And there’s no ditch to help Zeb gain the upper hand. The fight starts off okay with Rexy using brute force and her deadly bite to overpower Zeb, while he uses the Tyrannosaur’s balance flaws to make her fall over and biting at her legs and hips to help her lose balance (even pushing her legs together at one point or yanking at her tail, both of which cause her to topple into one of the structures). And when Rexy does fall, she immediately gets back up without any issues. It’s at the end of the fight where things get nonsensical. Both have been fighting for a short time with neither showing any sign of injury outside of a few scratches, new scars and Rexy having limp for a few seconds before recovering. Zeb manages to get his jaws around Rexy’s neck. To which he pushes her up against another structure, which topples under her weight because she’s a 7 ton tyrannosaur. And this manages to render her unconscious? Rexy had taken worse damage at a much weaker stage and was able to recover in seconds. That fall knocking her unconscious makes no sense. Sure Zeb being able to push Rexy up against the structure makes sense for reasons I’ve already explained and the fact that Zeb is the larger animal. But that fall shouldn’t of rendered her unconscious, a normal T-Rex maybe but Rexy is different genetically to her prologue self and is more durable. By all accounts she should’ve been able to just kick Zeb in the chin or knee and/or slapped him away with her tail, got back up and just start rage fighting like she did after she recovered from the indominus’s original attack. When she literally started throwing a dinosaur bigger than she was. And that was when she hadn’t had as much food or exercise that she had in fallen kingdom or the events prior to her capture in Dominion. TLDR the prologue fight makes decent sense but there’s almost no way the final fight scene made sense. Sure you could blame it on her age, but that would mostly just mean she’d get tired sooner, and even still she’s middle aged as clones have double the life expectancy of their original counterparts.
Why are people upset about this? In the JW universe Giganotosaurus lives on a completely diffirent continent, in a completely diffirent time period, it's pretty much a fictional animal we see in the film.
Oh yeah, but it’s a prevailing myth that Giga is the “biggest dinosaur ever” so this video tries debunking that. Also general audience members won’t analyze it that much, they’ll treat it as possible fact. Also also, even with the fictional proportions, the T. Rex should still win just cuz of bite force
@@Gamma138 even then, while T.rex would win most of the time, the stronger bite force doesn't make it magically immortal, the Giga could also end the battle relatively quickly with a good enough bite, tear T.rex's neck open, resulting in the Tyrannosaurus dropping to the ground where it rapidly bleeds out. The larger Tyrannosaurus would have had the upper hand most of the time (I'd say like 80%), but a Giga taking down a T.rex is not out of the realm of possibility. There are mamy more factors that could determine the outcome of a fight like the place of the fight or even just sheer Łuck, not just bite force. T.rex fanboys be acting like T.rex can solo the MCU, just cause it has a strong bite.
@@Gamma138 with the movie proportions, the Giganotosaurus is a 15 meters long, 9 tonne behomoth, the JP T.rex is only 12 meters long and 7 tonnes, the Giganotosaurus would have the upper hand thanks to its size advantage. Also you're forgetting the fact that Rexy is an old lady, that's like putting a grandma against a professionals boxer, Rexy wouldn't stand a chance, a younger Rex should have been able to do more. Even the bite force, if the JP To.rex had the same bite force as a real one the Indominus wouldn't have lasted that long
Blame Jack Horner for all the movies downplaying the T-Rex. TBH Allosaurus a real Jurrasic Therapod could have carried a movie as a big bad, battle at big rock made one terrfying.
Lemme help y'all understand what Alan meant. As it turns out, prehistory in the franchise is different from real life too. So everything you see cloned by Biosyn is exactly how they looked like in the prehistoric version of the franchise. Except the spinosaurus. That was Biosyn and InGen indirectly working together.
Thank you, for posting this, but one small nitpick I have is that rex didn't have the strongest biteforce of ANY animal, just of any LAND animal known.
Ok for someone who seems... a bit biased for the tyrannosaurus (which is not that rare) you do have points that are somewhat correct. In terms of bite force. I like how you keep bringing up the comparison to the tyrannosaurus bite being beyond stronger than the Giganotosaurus. No one is denying that. However it's bite was not meant for full and sheer power so why even try to stop there? You tend to forget it's meant for slicing prey to extreme blood loss. Remember, the giga's teeth were like highly specialized steak knives that can cut through any tough flesh, including sauropod skin. In conclusion the Giganotosaurus can easily slice the tyrannosaurus's neck or other blind spots and kill it if it has a good opening shot. Anyone wishes to talk about the terms of size. Feel free to comment.
Finally, someone who is not completely one sided! Great explanation, people always bring up the bite power as if it was the only thing that matter in a fight 😂 I hate how they treat those animals as some sort of pokemon with different stats. Anyway you got my like 👍
Problem is in the movir, thr giga wasnt seen slicing and bitting, instead it was tryna crush. So it wouldnt do damage anyway. If you look closer at its fights you could notice that the giga here isnt a bleeder and instead just uses thr conventional bite and throw around
@@kingofprehistory7851 True, but either way if the Giganotosaurus were to let go, those teeth have already sank into it's neck. Allowing it's own blood to suffocate itself. But in reality, this probably wouldn't get to that point if both apex predators overlap in the same environment. It's too risky for them to fight to the death.
@@trigz8626 Thanks yo lol I know they love the Trex and all but they tend to forget it's not gonna win in every scenario. Like I wouldn't deny if a tyrannosaurus would win in a fight, but this goes for the same for the Giga, Spino, and Carchar. 😂
Rexy is elderly and suffering from arthritis, but makes it up with battle experience. The giganotosaurus is much younger and in it's prime, but is not as experienced.
Gained a sub. I've always hated that ark let the giga be the biggest apex predator in the game and wished they would have made the rex slightly bigger.
In reality (I know it was impossible but anyhow ;)) -Hey you're big -Yeah, you to -Ok, I'll go my way then -Sure, me too That's the typical behaviour of today predators, so it's wrong to assume that back then it would be different. There is too much risk of injury in direct combat of apex (or close) predators.
It's a movie, it's made for entertainment, nobody said that giga can kill a T.Rex IRL, but in JWverse, giga stomps a Rex. And giga in JWverse is THE biggest theropod, by length (55 feet long), by weight (12-13 tons), by height (22 feet tall). JWD giga is heavier than IRL Rex, JWD giga weighs 12-13 tons while IRL Rex weighs 8-9 tons. Giga in Dominion is way more muscular then IRL Rex. JWD giga's bite is almost as strong as Rexy (Rexy has a bite of 12K psi). JWD Giga has a bite of 10K psi. IRL Rex has a bite of 9-11K psi. JWD giga has also shown to use terrain against it's enemy, uses "block-hitting" combat skills to kill his opponent while also preventing bites from them. JWD giga defeated buck and doe t.rex in a 2v1 battle (off screen). The giga in prologue and in JWD aren't meant to be accurate. He is meant to be overpowered. I get it Rex beats giga irl but not in JWverse.
in Jurassic Franchise Giga is the biggest carnivore (if we dont count illegaly cloned Spino or fully grow Indominus) and its even confirmed that Jurassic Franchise rexes are small game hunters
In the Jurassic Universe the Giga is obviously bigger, not real life. Plus even real life Giga would still be a formidable dinosaur, if it could do damage to sauropods it could most likely damage a similar size opponent, also yes Giga was more agile and faster than T-Rex, but again, in movies Giga was bigger and we know ow realistic Jurassic Park is. (It’s not)
I wasn’t very satisfied with the final battle. This is THE Rexy. When Rexy woke up they should of had her go beast mode on the giga. They should have had Rexy end with a strong fight that didn’t require help from other Dino’s.
The bite force of the T-Rex has been estimated using the bite force of modern crocodiles as a reference for computer modeling, at somewhere around 8000 pounds. This is over twice the biting force of the largest recorded modern crocodiles and 4x that of the Spotted Hyena. To make use if this force, the T-Rex had triangular teeth a foot in length, about half of which was exposed abd the rest of which was attached to the skull. The teeth were serrated for cutting and unlike thinner bladed profile teeth of most other predators, could have crushed bone, allowing the T-Rex to tear gigantic chunks off of its prey. The tip of the teeth could deliver 431,000 PSI, allowing the T-Rex to devour anything standing in its way and deliver a single killing bite to the largest animals that have ever walked on this planet. The T-Rex didn't have arms because it didn't need them. It stood on massive, powerful legs with a thicj, counter-balancing tail allowing it to hold up a head equipped with an incredible sense of smell and excellent binocular vision with an overlapping field of view similar to modern birds of prey. And it had a bite to finish any prey or opponent instantly. The T-Rex ruled like a tyrant.
Yeah the “Bigger than T. rex” trope is tired. They need to let it go, especially when it’s not even accurate. Either pick the Rex, or as you said a mutated Rex that looks like the V. Rex or even creepier through growth hormones and give it some messed up looking teeth.
OR, don’t even include a fight. Just make a giga (a better looking one than what we got) and have it be the only large threat. Give us multiple gigas.
We don’t need a fight every movie. This isn’t a cage match, or a Transformers movie.
This is beautifully said. Jurassic movies have become a carnivore battle shlockfest. A battle for the sake of a battle when there’s plenty of other avenues they could go with
Thanks for the pin!
Agreed. The way every JW movie has gone, we now expect a fight at the end. So basically, we don’t need to pay attention to anything else because we know there will be a fight and that’s all anyone cares about. That’s all anyone is waiting for. Why bother with a movie then? We can watch YT videos for dino fights.
@@Betweentheraindrops8 I like how people say giga is bigger than a Rex they are actually around the same size giga is just longer
@Cavan
Right. And there seems to even be some models that show they’re similar length. Not sure which is taller, but looking at both from the front...Rex would be like a bear and giga would be a big cat of the same height. Which would you rather get hit by? Neither obviously, but the big cat will be my choice.
@@Betweentheraindrops8 same.
As another TH-cam video pointed out in the fight between Spino and T Rex, it would have been virtually impossible to break its neck that way because T rex had a grotesque amount of muscle connecting its head, neck, and shoulders. I mean, it literally had no other choice, it had no freaking arms anymore.
So the idea that any known dinosaur other than another T Rex had the jaws and bite strength to inflict a death blow is absurd, let alone getting into a contest of physical strength. T rex was an absolute tank, hence why it was the most successful therapod carnivore of it's time.
Thats a classic misunderstanding, Spino in JP3 did not broke the neck of Trex with his jaw.
He snapped it, otherworldly he twisted it with his arm and with the help of a jaw that is mainly made for grappling.
Also, JP’s Trex is not very accurate either…
It dont have near as much muscles as the real one have.
@@trigz8626 I know, Spino used an amount of wrist flexibility and dexterity that it couldn't possibly physically have to break the T rex's neck, which was impossible to do anyways. The amount of muscle T rex had in its neck would have made it impossible for its neck to be broken in that fashion, let alone with one arm. There's a TH-cam video on here somewhere where a paleontologist goes over all the inaccuracies in the Jurrasic park movies, and basically he points out that Spino would have been dead the instant T rex bit down on its neck like that. Bones would have been crushed, the spinal cord would have been severed in multiple places, and the esophagus and throat would have been punctured and crushed.
Said it precisely. Giganotosaurus body plan including its jaw structure was not built to insta-kill a T. Rex since it prey wasn’t like the ones T. Rex faced. T. Rex gets the dub
@@Gamma138 But it was Larger and Faster, but it definitely was no where near as intelligent or as powerful as the T-Rex, it’s the reason they literally needed to hunt in packs of around 3-4 Individuals.
You forgot one thing, what the t-rex had and what the Giga didn't, which is very important. Stereoscopic vision - binocular perception of depth and distance, a type of visual perception that allows you to judge distance to objects you see. T-rex is the pure killing machine.
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The T rex was actually a scavenger
@@cesco4606 Hahaha 😂 You have information from the 90s 😂 He was opportunist. Like Spino, Giga, Alo, Lion, Crocodile and more.
Yep. And another thing rex had that giga doesn’t…. Bone crushing, conical shaped teeth versus razor sharp, smaller teeth. One bites to crush bone and pulverize flesh, the other bites to cause bleeding and prolonged damage
@@connormcmurphy4276 Exactly. A T-rex would have crushed Gig in a duel. That's the truth. He would be injured for sure, but he would not have died, as it was shown in the prologue.
The "Bigger Than T-Rex" trope is the same as the "Evil Superman" trope for me, it's starting to get old, it's okay to dislike T-Rex but that doesn't give you the right to try to one up it every chance you get, giga and spino are cool and interesting dinosaurs but they only beat the T-Rex in length, nothing else
Exactly! They just grasp at carnivorous dinosaurs and try to overhype them up so that way T. Rex can be seen as weaker and this new dinosaur as the king of all carnivorous dinosaurs that can easily kill T. Rex etc. Also the “T. Rex of the ___” trope
no thanks. I didn't like tyrannosaurus I hate it
in the jp universe spino outranks giga and giga outranks trex
jajajajajajajaja 2 vs 1, el giganotosaurus es el rey
I'm pretty sure Giganotosaurus was faster too, but yeah other than that I'd say the Rex wins 60% of the time.
To add, Charcharodontosaurids like Giganotosaurus had to turn their heads sideways just to get a better view because of the way their eye sockets are positioned in their skull.
T.Rex meanwhile has excellent binocular vision at the front.
Giganotosaurus evolved this way because it hunted large slow prey like sauropods, so excellent vision wasn't very necessary when you can see your prey easily from a mile away.
This is true to the related allosaurids which primarily hunted sauropods as well.
@@giagarex to be fair it's vision was probably relatively good , after all it's still a predator and predators tend to have better vision than their prey , it's vision was probably pretty good it just didn't have good depth perception , T.Rex needed a great depth perception because it needs to stay away from the defences of it's prey and aim for a spesific spot to take it down to avoid injury as much as possible. Giganotosaurus didn't have this problem because it could bite any part of it's prey and bleed it out just as effectively. The low mobility of it's prey allowed it to take it's time instead of rushing in for an instant kill like T.Rex has to do in order to take down it's prey without getting stabbed to death. This is the exact reason why it's really unfair to compare other theropod dinosaurs to T.Rex because T.Rex is built to kill armored prey as quickly as possible.
What bothers me is every time rexy fought another big bad dino,she was not in her prime,she is old,and she does not look nearly as intimidating as she did in the first film..the only advantage she brings to the table is experience,but she is fightning dinos that are in their prime,and even if/when she lands a bite,these movies severly weakend a t rex bite as apposed to real life,any bite from an adult t rex will crush bone,and the only rival it had was another t rex
no one cares for t rex lore
@@RoboticPh0enix no one cares that you dont care fuz nuts
Of course, because there was nothing else other than Trex in his environment 😂
No competition because there was no other big carnivore.
Ya talking about how the T. rex should have won but no one talking about how bad the last fight was, really rex needing a theri help
@@trigz8626 Yes, because Triceratops are an easy target.
THANK YOU!!! It's getting real tiresome seeing the Tyrannosaurus always get downplayed and humiliated in battle with other large carnivores when it should be the undisputed winner (including both size and power), particularly in this franchise where it serves as the icon and star attraction! They have not handled the T-Rex right since JP3 started this obnoxious and unfortunate trend, and it's a damn shame. I absolutely despise that whole "bigger and badder than T-Rex" trope and I don't understand why they weirdly keep thinking it's a good idea.
Because business, but the vast majority of people watching this dont care about Trex or any other creatures, they care about the plot.
Only cringe fan cry about the big boohoo dino that died against another boohoo dino.
@@trigz8626 you do realise that majority are dino fans right? Only critics go for plot. We go for dinosaur action.
I’m with you on this to it’s very true
@@Cosmic_JC I'm no critic, I'm a dinosaur fan, but I go in expecting a good movie, which JWD doesn't deliver
@@trigz8626 thry care about the plot? They only cared about the plot in jurassic park and the lost world, which were the movies were the dinosaurs including rex were best implemented
Anytime anyone’s ever said something about T.Rex having “puny” arms, my retort has always been: “You don’t need big arms when you can basically one shot every living thing in your environment with your face. It’s worked well for crocs and sharks all these years, after all.”
Those puny arms are actually strong af too, so its far from useless. Its just why use ur strong yet small arm when your chomp ohko's everything
“You don’t need big arms when you can basically one shot every living thing in your enviorment with your face” is the most fitting quote for a T. rex ever
Why have a pistol when you can have a gatling gun?
@@unnaturaldodo to be honest Jurassic Park 3 didn't get it right because it would have well heavily injured the spinosaurus if they didn't want the spinosaurus to die Jurassic world it is fair because it is a imaginary dinosaur slithery hybrid dinosaur so really it could have a durability increase expression due to the fact that has ankylosaurus DNA which is why it has well some type of armor like the Ankylosaurus so it taking bites from a T-Rex's is plausible
It has become somewhat of a trope to have a larger carnivore and compare it to the T-Rex and have it fight the Tyrannosaurus and defeat it with relative ease, I really wish they would stop that, you don't have to always do that to show how cool the new dinosaur is, they're animals not monsters, Giganotosaurus and Spinosaurus are such amazing animals in their own right, they don't need to be compared to something else, as for the Hybrids, I Never was much of a fan of the Idea, The Indominus Rex was ok but I really think they should have stopped with it.
I agree the Trex would win most of the time. It's purely situational as we don't know what could happen. I agree though a Trex would win 90 percent of the time against a Giga or Spino in real life.
it is a movie it isnt supposed to be scientifically accurate
Nah its 50/50
Giga can kill Trex just as much as he can be killed by it.
The Giganotosaurus is more agile, before it was even bigger in length, but with the presence of Scotty things have changed.
Before it was thought that the T. REX did not reach 13 meters in length, the largest Giganotosaurus is 13.20 meters long, with Scotty instead it was seen that he too exceeded 13 meters, in fact it is currently the most massive theoropod that is never existed.
The tyrannosaurus surpassed in all the Giganotosaurus, it was more intelligent, it had the most powerful bite of all the animals that lived on dry land, it had the best sight and it could look ahead, which cannot be said the same of the dear "Giga". 'only thing that the Giganotosaurus had more .. It was agility, but for the rest forget it.
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@@thevengefuloness I agree I love the Giga it's my most favorite dino. However I feel that the battle would be fairly one sided however it is situational
I don't think GiGa would even dare to come close to a Trex if they ever met. It's huge size alone would intimidate it lol.
They didnt even exist during the same time period
Idk, its not only that carcharodontosaurid hunted large sauropod but…. Nah forget about it. Fat barrel dino is scary I guess.
@@trigz8626 you do know saurpods are different from theropds right?
@@trigz8626 looks like someones mad as fuck holy shit 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@trigz8626 To be fair, gigas hunted sauropods in packs, in a solo battle the giga would lose against a t rex undoubtably. But in a pack, it's a different story
Giga was built as a slender animal design to cut and dash, meanwhile T Rex was packed with muscles built for a fight and T Rex was one of the smartest dinosaurs too
Trex? One of the smartest?
Yeah no, more like hypothetical non-proved bullshit.
You would be surprised how much damage a cut on the major artery of the neck can do to a « packed with muscles » body.
@@trigz8626 that’s your opinion and I choose respect it, but not agree with it
A recent study suggests that the study that Tyrannosaurus was smart is disputed.
Even when the study about intelligence was made, it ALREADY sparked massive scientific debate since they believed it was as smart as a baboon, which is now likely no longer true.
To quote Edwardo from Foster’s Home.
“No Giganotosaurus is the tallest. T Rex is the biggest.”
Anyway thanks for the explanation, I always felt the power of the T. rex and it’s powerful bite force always seem to be underestimated in these films.
you are sick adnaa that shit rex ass
No they don't. They just don't give a fuck about Trex
@@spider-man500 I support you giganotosaurus it really is big South America it's the dinosaurs because it's not REX BIG, so I don't hate that it's disrespectful it's the biggest giga, OK
@@rodrigoestebanquierofiguer9658 bro tf u saying-
giga isn't really taller when compared to the largest rexes
T. rex is actually not so overrated as people must think because it had the strongest bite force of any known land animal ever and was built like a tank. The speed of t tex I hear a bunch of conflicting things, they used to think it was pretty fast and could run at 30mph and then they said it was extremely slow and was slower than a person. Then recently I heard a paleontologist say that T. rex could easily outrun a person. I really don’t know. But either way it was probably terrifying to come across. It’s vision was most likely amazing too
Yeah rex was slow, but any carnivore that got close enought to attack rex, had to enter the bite zone, so yeah, rew wouldn't be able to go behind a giga but if a giga got close enough to attack the rex, rex would be in range to kill the giga
Google says its top speed was 17mph.
@@jdrexy4459 Reasonable.
t rex wasn't built like a tank, ankylosaurus is
if the t rex is a tank, what is the ankylosaurus?
@@MB32904 T. rex was built like a tank… for a carnivore. There
You're right on there brother. I'm not just saying that I've talked to a few paleontologist over the years when I've visited sue, and they all say that T-Rex would win a fight more often than not against any other large carnivorous species. It's just way more advanced in terms of eyesight smell brain processing power bite force skeletal structure the list could go on. The tyrannosaurus Rex was literally the most advanced meat eating dinosaur we've ever discovered so far and the most studied. Don't get me wrong Rex wasn't invincible against other large carnivorous species it wouldn't win every time, but it would win majority of the time
You said it yourself, the most studied.
You cant claim that a pencil is the sharpest of the box if its the only pencil in the friking box.
And I dont know why people think that Trex would win more often against another similar giant Theropod…
Depend on who get the first critical bite, thats it.
Why would Trex have the first bite 90% of the time? It got the biggest face out of them, its very probably harder for him to move it around.
Honestly I think that giga would win most of the time, all he need is one bite to kill it, blood loss can kill as much as crushed bone. Plus he’s probably a little faster.
This comment section is not critical, its always one sided and no one look at the other side. They treat animals as fricking pokemon with stat.
@@trigz8626 You act like the rex doesn't have massive neck muscles to move it's head around. The trex beats giga 80% of the time. Nothing the giga can do will help especially since the rex has the agility on it's side also. They're as agile as a theropod half their size. They'll easily fuck a giga up. No one cares about your bias. Come with facts and not bias. So far the only thing you said right is who gets the first big bite in. But good luck that happening with giga. Their eyes are positioned more like iguanas than us. In other words they have horrible frontal vision where the rex has the most advanced frontal eye sight of any animal to ever exist. Giga evolved to hunt sauropods which explains why it's eyes are positioned more on the sides of it's head instead of forward
@@trigz8626 lol Giga doesn't kill T-Rex in one bite 😂. Are you even listening to what you're saying here? Giga needs multiple bite to weaken T-Rex with blood loss while T-Rex will only need one bite to cripple it, it's neck, hands, back any of it will be crushed with just one placed bite. And giga needs to get close to T-rex to deliver a bite, getting bit in return. T-Rex will win 80-20 lol.
@@trigz8626 1 bite to kill it? I think you got giga and trex mixed up
@@trigz8626 tyrannosaurus fought each other all the time in brutal ways, biting on the neck, behind the head, and face and they still walked out fine, also their jaws are made for crushing bones, but they still survive those encounters with each other. A giganotosaurus jaws wouldn't do jack shit, they are also made for a different way of killing.
Finally trex gets some respect
What are you talking about the most disrespected dinosaur is spinosaures trex has always had the spotlight.
Tell that to jp3 and dominion
What do you mean he dies in almost ball the movies spin killed bull the trex
you're right. i mean, its scientifically true that the t rex wasnt this 'tiny' dinosaur compared to the giga and spino. and recent studies already showed it was much bigger than before. its definitely heavier than the giga. i dont remember for sure but it should be bigger than the spino in terms of weight. t rex was essentially the smartest and most agile theropod too. the bite force was insane compared to the others. its skull was very powerful for head butts too. its extremely thick neck and lots of muscle helped with even taking neck bites.
Idk why they keep having them fight each other instantly. Honestly, I feel like the massive predators probably tried to stay away from each other. It's like the big cats we see nowadays. There was a time they had a tiger, a lion, and a bear in a cage and they tried to stay away from each other. I'm sure they would try not to risk getting themselves injured unless they had no choice. Like some people have said these are animals, not monsters.
They could have made the giga a bleeder, faster and with much more stamina. Meanwhile the t rex is a brawler that does massive damage but at the cost of speed and energy. Theri could have been a zone fighter that traps the enemy in an area. But the final fisht is The most dissappinting fight in the entire franchise.
Giga wasn't that faster than T-rex though.
And analyses of T. rex pelvic bones and connective tissues thwy would’ve had, has lended some credence to the belief that T. rex was actually fairly agile for a large therapod…more agile than other species.
Fax like out of all them I’m not fighting the turkey but Rex yea I’ll take my chances and giga but not hand to jaw combat more like us my brain and size to my advantage causing them to harm themselves without me doing anything really
Giga wouldn't have more stamina as it's body shape doesn't support largest lungs and heart than the rex. Same reason why bears have greater stamina than cats, more barrel shaped body supporting a larger heart and lungs.
@@connormcmurphy4276Agile, yes! But not locomotion/running speed in which giga takes the cake. Agility also usually means worse stamina as constantly jolting up your nervous system can affect you gas tank much faster.
Another evidence for a bad gas tank is T Rexes are also more bulkier/heavier.
Though, I think the Rex will be fine as long as he picks his shots. The Giga needs a strategy regarding getting some bites and backing off in order to have a chance.
t. rex was the heaviest carnivore dinosaur, the most intelligent (megatheropod) after troodontids, had probably the best sight of any animal, yeah even birds of prey, had one of the best smells of any dinosaur and had the strongest biteforce of any land animal ever, so yeah, rex wins basically every carnivore in a fight to death. I will always defend T. rex as the best predator that has ever walked the earth, cause it is objectively one of the best predators, but the day something stronger is discovered I will accept it, not like spino fans when they discovered how the real spino was (don't get me wrong, spino is a great dinosaur and a very fascinating creature, but it isn't the monster some people want it to be)
And T-Rex was actually EXTREMELY Intelligent, extremely, almost comparable to that of Human Intelligence, yes they were still far from this but they were decently Close to it all things considered. But Giga was actually Bigger than T-Rex, not by a lot, but it was. It definitely had a much weaker bite force which is why it had to turn to just slashing and clawing it’s prey to ware them down and let them bleed to death. And they weren’t as heavier and weaker in overall strength, but were much much faster and had to hunt in packs of around 3-4 individuals.
@@GameraEditZ giga is slightly longer in average, but when we say if an animal is big, we use weight, and average rex is heavier than average giga, so rex is bigger
@@ender_z4nd3r83 Not necessarily, when we say big it can go both ways for them, and The Giga was slightly Larger in length and height, don’t remember specifically how much but it wasn’t a lot but still was noted regardless
@@GameraEditZ it is sligthly longer and higher, but rex is stronger and heavier, and thats what matters, giga is not longer or higher enought to make a difference
@@ender_z4nd3r83 I already know The Rex is Heavier and just overall more powerful but I was just pointing the size difference and I’m not saying that changes anything I’m just pointing it ouy
I’d love to see a herbivore. Given they could actually fight a trex it’d be cool to switch things up. And you don’t need to paint them as villains either. Just have them defending their territory or just being animals. Like I’d love to see a badass trike or anky. Antagonist isn’t always evil, it’s just the opposite of the protagonist
Exactly you pretty much encapsulated my own thought; a herbivore ‘threat’ only in the sense it’s territorial would be awesome to see
btw this giga in jwd is an imaginary version since the prologue is in the 66-65 million years ago and in north america, so technically this giga is an evolved animal that had evolved to compete with the trex making this giga a fake and not a real giga, a real giga would get killed and pushed around easily
It's also strange how tyrannosaurus evolved to such size while giganotosaurus was still around in jp universe.
The only explanation is that tyrannosaurus was slowly out competiting giganotosaurus somehow.
I mean, look how many variations of Trexes there are and theres only 1 giga.
Okay, I’m VERY biased towards the T-Rex, spoiler warning!!! When Rexy got up after supposedly dying I was so hyped I think I almost yelled in the theater, but no matter how sharp or strong the bite force of a carnivorous teeth is, I’m pretty sure a bite to a VERY unprotected neck can cause fatal damage, not to mention that I’m pretty sure that dragging somethings neck with carnivores teeth like a rag doll can cause severe damage!
Yup, I was In a cinema room with only 4 other people, my mum and 3 teenage girls, when rexy got up, one of the girls yelled: HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT WORK!??!!!????
Jurassic Franchise needs a good director that makes T-Rex great gain. It's a shame what they've been doing since JP 3
Yeah agreed! My main complaint about the T. Rex nowadays is that it’s just some convenient plot device
I enjoyed Jurassic World about as much as the original Jurassic Park, then just like the Jurassic Park trilogy the Jurassic World trilogy declined in believability and credibility... sacrificing accuracy for action and novelty.
@@MoparMikeMM It never was accurate, all of them are genetically modified monsters since JP1.
Nothing changed on that matter.
And other dinosaurs deserve as much love as the Trex do.
He already have too much for the most boring of all theropod anyway lol
@@trigz8626 idk about the most boring, it's obvious still controversial, but seeing that it evolved in a way that other theropods didn't is pretty cool to me.
And also, why is it ALWAYS another carnivore that has to kill a T-Rex? There are a lot of herbivores that could one-up a T-Rex
Pure facts, but due to low rational interia, Tyrannosaurus rex would be more agile.
Thank you! Hmmm interesting point about rotational inertia (I assume that's what you meant), I haven't heard about that point before. I'd look into it!
Actually it’s impossible to know, since giga is far from being as studied as Trex.
But I highly doubt that a 8-9 ton predator would be less agile than 10 ton one.
Both of them are very agile anyway.
@@trigz8626 It is known that giga is less agile based on it's skeletal structure. Giga is very well studied actually. Rex is only more known about cause it's been around for over 100 years but the info we knew of it then is wrong now. They believed theropods walked upright back then lmao. Just cause it's been known and studied longer doesn't mean that past info was right. In actuality the rex and giga have been studied an equal amount
For decades, I've had to watch Tyrannosaurus Rex lose
I almost walked out of JP 3
Then the absolute blasphemy of King Kong 2005, defeating 3 T Rex's at once
I almost lost it
All i can say is that if these two fight it'll be a very violent fight. T Rex has better chance of winning. But if the Giga somehow made the t Rex trip it could lethal for the Rex since he's so heavy.
No need to make it trip, both of them can end the other easily.
Trex crush bone and giga cut thing, both have different attributes.
If a trex bite the neck of a giga then that giga is probably dead.
If a giga bite the neck of a Trex, then that Trex is also probably dead.
Think of it this way: I can kill you by crushing your neck but I can also kill you by cutting your throat.
Both have their own ways of killing, but keep in mind that while its weaker than Trex’s, giga also have a powerful bite.
But realistically, they would probably not fight, they would probably just avoid each other because injuries are generally mortal in the animals kingdom.
@@trigz8626 I'm aware about that detail about the giga's bite. The way you explained it is logic. It's like comparing a sharp hammer and big dagger in some way.
@@trigz8626 if the giga bite's the rex's neck then that isn't going to work, rex has thick skin which is built to take damage from the herbs like trike which would easily end a giga, rexes would even fight each other, keep in mind, rex would've caused more bleed lost to animals, so if a rex can handle bites from other rexes i doubt a giga's bite would do anything
@@Mr.Wetherilli
the skin of the rex was thin, that of the giga was thick and with osteoderms
@@Juan.R.Vera_LR uh no. But T-Rex had a massive neck. To bite there means to get in T-Rex range. It's a trade off, one bite Giga, one bite T-Rex. Giga will get the shorter end of that stick.
To add salt to the injury, Theropod Arms where not really effective weapons in fights due to their anatomy, they could easily broke, specially if they tried to "box" their opponents like bears as people like to portrai the Giga or Spino using their claws, in fact they could land one good blow before getting to know that was a bad idea for them or straight up broke their arms, hence why Abelisaurids and Tyrannosaurids evolved smaller arms, they didn´t need them.
As for the fight of meanest theropod, forgett it, the Rex was a Maxed out and broken card by nature, it simply evolve much better trades than any other theropod (excepting some dromeosaurids)
Giga: 6'5" 235lbs, benches 225lbs
T Rex: 6'3" 275lbs, benches 400lbs
T Rex : defensive lineman
Giga: tight end
These are my thoughts....
Guy: t Rex is bigger than giganotosaurus
Google: bro… i’m right here
T-Rex was also crazier...they're the only carnivore I know of period that were so territorial and unafraid of engaging in a life threatening fight. I could totally see the Giga just peacing out and leaving rather than risk its life fighting a T-Rex.
Bring back the hybrid spino from 3, Rexy needs to get revenge for the sub adult, plus its an established villain.
Was not an hybrid and it never was lol
Plus idk what sub adult you talk about
And as for Rexy well she can die in whatever dirty hole if she want to, her and all the other as far as I am concerned.
If that can calm those cringe « internet fan war »
That's a fully grown bull trex, not sub adult
@@alzetilted33 it was smaller than the lost world bull if adult he was a tiny guy
It's like a skinny 6'6 guy compared to a 6'2 powerlifter.
In real life, yes. The same with Spinosaurus. However, if they applied real bite force then there would be no antagonistic predator. People need to understand that they're not going completely accurate with these movies, and probably never going to. The casual audience wants fights and spectacle, not one-sided matches. We know a Rex bite would have killed the Spino or Giga, or even potentially crippled the Indo. It's just a turn-off your brain situation with these movies. Sure they could go other avenues with these interactions, but they won't. It was a thing since 2001 and I doubt it'll change anytime going forward.
Dont know if you are aware of this but… you know that bite force is far from being the only factor in a fight right?
Those 2 predators can both kill each other easily if they get a critical bite you know.
A powerful bite means nothing if the one having it do not get the chance to use it, vice-versa.
@@trigz8626 Don't know if you know this but in a theropod fight the only thing that does matter is the bite lmao
Exactly! Giganotosaurus may be a taller and longer Dino, but it ain’t as strong as a Tyrannosaur because a T-Rex is heavier (10 or more tons > 8-9 tons), it has a stronger bite force (Rex’s teeth are made to crush while Giga’s teeth are made for cutting), and it’s more durable, as its weight is explanatory. This is just according to paleontology I researched.
I don’t think the creators of the Jurassic World franchise care about accuracy they seem to just set whatever made up logic into place
You are right
The movie literally states there not accurate, people seem to ignore this though 💀
@@Zenoprism but they said the prologue was meant to be the most accurate representation of prehistoric life in the whole franchise, and then they made a monstrous, crocodilian Giganotosaurus jump through time and space to (somehow) kill a Tyrannosaurus at the end of the Cretaceous. Not to mention the anachronistic and/or misplaced Dreadnoughtus, Iguanodon, Nasutoceratops, and Oviraptor.
@@swaggasaurus_rex was talking about the dinosaurs during modern time, but yeah the prologue is BS. I feel like it would be hard to replace the dinosaurs in the JP series since the dinosaurs are characters themselves but I enjoyed the part in dominion where they slowly introduced some more "accurate" dinosaurs. I'm not a huge dino nerd but yeah JP isn't meant to be accurate and I like it when it sates in the universe itself its not. Only real problems with the JP franchise is when they try to play something off as accurate.
Paleontologist:"Tyrannosaurus Rex has the highest bite force of all terrestrial theropods with the capability to crush bones."
Writers in Hollywood and video games:"imma pretend not to hear that"
real life yeah trex beats up giga, but in jp it opposite since giga is stronger, i mean it apparent now jp dino are differnt to real dino look no further then the spino, mosa or even the raptors, it clear giga is stronger then a real world giga
Tyrannosaurus Rex (Tyrant Lizard King) the extinct species of theropod would have won most fights with other dinosaurs including Giganotosaurus, Spinosuarus, etc. Since it's bite force was extremely high and crush bones.
I’m a huge giga fan but I’ll admit irl of course T. rex would win unless giga was extremely lucky. I think this interpretation this was a fictional different species of giga, let me explain. Since these dinosaurs lived in different time periods it wouldn’t make sense for them to encounter each other, another thing being that the giga lived in South America while the T. rex lived in North America. This would explain why the giga was larger and looked different compared to its irl counterpart, having a more crocodilian look and heavier, larger size. Just my theory tho
you mean Argentina
@@bluemaxdilight3784 yep correct
Gigas were built to take down massive slow lumbering sauropods (far slower and less inteligent than T Rex) by bleeding them to death. It’s like a fight between a komodo dragon and a tiger. The comodo is longer but the tiger is bulkier and has a stronger bite force
I wish instead of rexy the spino fought giga so that we would have gotten something fresh and The trex would have been cut some crap, poor rexy is so old and beat up... They ruined her legacy by showing her being defeated
I agree poor rexy
Yeah but they had to make Rexy fight in the last battle, its literally the end of the franchise
@@trigz8626 tf
@@Dechozy 😂😂
@@trigz8626 maybe not to you... But to us it mattered
One thing they've conveniently left out in that movie. Both dinosaurs lived tens of millions of years apart in completely different countries.
People are trying to apply logic in JW bruh, we all know a rex would probably win against a giga in real life, but these are modified animals, its even stated that T-rexes bite was nerfed because it wasn't in its pure form, although, if we take the pure form of the giga in the JW universe, then Giga also claps
“Bigger than T. rex” trope is so ridiculuos, is just about made the Rex look weak for no reason.
Absolutely. Some people wanna just have a carnivorous dinosaur be way bigger and powerful than T. Rex for some reason
In real life: T-rex wins. Scotty is the biggest carnivore to ever walk the earth.
In Dominion: Giga wins. Giga is the biggest carnivore to ever walk the earth, not accurate but still enjoyable. (still smaller and inferior to Adult I-rex, so don't expect too much)
Also Rexy was like 7-8 tons, the Giga was 10+ tons, which made him the 2nd largest dino after the Adult I-rex. But since the Adult I-rex never appeared, then it still goes to Giga. Wanna know what if Adult I-rex appeared? Alan Grant's line to the Giga will be like this: "the 2nd largest carnivore the world have ever seen." Also this is jurassic franchise, so don't take it too serious into the real world, it's just for entertainment. Even in the movie Giga bullies Rexy in 1v1, but at least Rexy is able to pull it off with the help of Therizinosaurus. Btw it seems your video took quite effort, keep it up, it's a good video.
You’re assessment is completely correct. Scotty would’ve definitely defeated the Giga, and Sue. Although I think there will be T. Rexes we find that will be larger than Scotty. Guess we’ll see! Also your Giga mass numbers you gave are supposed to be for JW Dominion numbers they gave out or actual real life numbers?
Anyway thank you, I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the video!
@@Gamma138 the 10+ tons Giga is from Dominion. In real life, it was actually the opposite, Giga is the 7 tons and Scotty is the 10+ tons. The movie just swap those numbers for the exact same two different dinosaurs, what a coinsidence.
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you are sick adnaa that shit rex ass
Lol give them both the hybrid spinosaurus from isla sorna and see how long they last.
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The Giga would have taken an L but in the Prologue Rexy actually slipped off the ground they were standing while the Giga had it's teeth around her neck thus slitting her throat and in the film She lost cause of a massive age gap. All these gave the Giga a higher advantage compared to what Rexy was delt with.
Yep you’re right it would’ve taken an L. As for prologue, I’m not sure if it really had an age gap. You could assume both were at their prime during the prologue battle. As for the slip, the slip definitely gave an advantage to Giga, but I’m not sure if that would slit its throat. Anyway thanks for commenting!
@@Gamma138 think he was referring to during the film there being an age gap
I see no reason for the three biggest theropods to fight each other when they all hunt different prey;
Tyrannosaurus eats heavily armed dinosaurs too powerful for the others to fight
Giganotosaurus eats giant sauropods too massive to deal with without the proper weapons
Spinosaurus eats slippery fish too agile (and possibly poisonous) for the other two to catch
I have to respectfully disagree, while also not agreeing with the film per se. In terms of who could kill who, consider this. T.rex also has way blunter teeth and could not rend through muscle and flesh as effectively as the giant carnosaur. Getting bitten across the neck by a (time warping) Giga would be just as devastating as the other way around, just for different reasons. Yes, the absolute maximum T.rex specimens are bigger, but there is only one point of reference for Giga to use as only the holotype had a substantial amount of skeletal material. The Giga holotype is smaller than the likes of absolutely huge T.rex individuals like Sue and Scotty, but it is also larger than the majority of T.rex adult specimens like Black Beauty and Sampson. It's virtually identical in size to the holotype T.rex by happenstance, which most likely either average or slightly above average for a T.rex.
All animals exist in gradients of size with most individuals being average. Comparing the average T.rex to the almost certainly (as it is smaller than more fragmentary remains) average Giganotosaurus in the holotype, the result is the two are virtually identical in weight. The T.rex is possibly slightly taller and the Giganoto slightly longer.
As for the T.rex being more advanced, not particularly true. The mental processing portions of the brains were both quite comparable, being very similar to modern crocodilians (who themselves are actually quite intelligent and on par with mammalian predators and predatory birds, so this isn't shabby). The larger spans of the T.rex brain were almost exclusively developed for smell and hearing. And considering intelligence and smell wouldn't really factor in this kind of battle, any differences wouldn't really impact the end result.
I'd honestly say either has a good chance of killing the other, just depends on who gets that first good hit. Even if one was genuinely a bit heavier than the other, the difference is so small as to not really factor all that much unless we got a well-above average individual of one genus vs. a below-average individual from the other.
But wouldn't the rex just crush the giga neck if it bites it's neck
@@Adolphus_of-bysantanium That's assuming it can land that hit. It could, but it won't be easy. Likewise, if the Giga bit the Tyrannosaurus across the neck, it has a good chance of slashing the throat open or shredding the neck muscles.
@@Tarbtano but that problem would also apply to the giga
@@Adolphus_of-bysantanium yes, and that's why I never said the Giga was automatically going to win either. I see either as having a roughly equal chance of killing the other and a fight would just break down to whoever got that first good shot in. What my argument was is that the Tyrannosaurus bite pressure does not guarantee it in automatic win like some people think it does.
@@Tarbtano You are absolutely right.
Could not have said it better, it’s important to not stay one sided in such a matchup (as much people here seem to be) and you were perfectly balanced (as all thing should be) in term of measuring the default and quality of each one of them.
If I was making a dinosaur movie and having a T-Rex going up against other large theropods, I would use scientifically accurate evidence behind each of these dinosaurs. I was a little upset that the director didn't allow Rexy to use the experience fighting the Indominus against the Giganotosaurus.
Is a Jurassic Park/World Franchise, the Jurassic Park/World Franchise are not documentalls. The Giga in Dominion Can Defeat an T-Rex but in the Real Live not
That is very true. But I’m trying to dispel this misinformation that will now be repeated over and over again by general audience members that Giga was the biggest carnivorous terrestrial animal, all thanks to Dominion
That as well as showing that even if Giga was as big as it was in the movie, it could still get defeated I’d argue
As the CrazyPaleo once said: "I'll tell you this: they're both going to die, no matter who comes out the winner (if there's a winner at all). The two animals will break each other's ribs, turn their jaws and bite throught their tails in half a minute, then they can't walk and die of blood loss or trivial blood poisoning within a day or two, and that's it".
Another reason why the Gigantosaurus wouldn't kill Tyrannosaurus Rex 🦖 in the prehistoric times. Is because they lived in 2 different places at different. Lol.
Tyrannosaurus Rex 🦖: North America.
Gigantosaurus: South America.
I know right? When i saw that rex getting owned by that giga, i was like " what kind of bullshit is this?"
This proves that t rex fans cant chill
T. rex would win. It’s bite force was over 5x stronger. This is pretty crazy considering both dinosaurs were roughly the same size.
Yeah T. Rex was pretty OP ngl, especially because it was a very smart animal too with large bulk and amazing senses
Well. We can do simple maths if we want to be accurate (I see people using this word randomly in the comments). Average size of adult T.Rex is arround ~11.75 metres (if not a bit less but I grant this to the fans) and ~6500 kg.
Scotty and Sue are the BIGESTS individuals ever found and don't represent the average size (there are arround 20 adult T.Rex skeletons). They are bulky and large, representing also the heavy morphotype (not all of them was like that). And yes, they are the two heaviest known terophods right now.
In the other hand we have only 2 specimens of Giganotosaurus. Holotype is ~12.2-12.5 depending on the reconstruction with a calculated weight arround 6300-6500 kg. Well this specimen is already noticeably larger and taller than average T.Rex, and weights pretty the same. Giganotosaurus paratype is between 3 to 8% bigger than holotipe if we just compare the bones directly. Some guys say "well, maybe this specimen had just bigger maxila but the same size". And why? The point is that we could also think that the second specimen was even bigger that direct comparison is showing us and it had smaller head... So, we just take the measurements as direct extrapolation. We get an animal ~13 metres and pretty close in weight to Sue. 8000 vs 8800 or similar gap. Sue was bigger, yes. But we have to compare average T.Rex with average Giganotosaurus.
Average T.Rex ~11.8/6500kg (bulky morph) vs Average Giga ~12.7/7000kg. So.... People who say as general imformation that Giga was bigger is just right. We are not comparing individuals, we compare different species.
Note: using probability the two specimens of Giga should be average size. Most common size is way easier to find. If some day we have +20 Giganotosaurus specimens, some of them will be bigger than that, almost sure (and other smaller obviously).
It's not about a bad film plot, is about numbers and facts.
Fair enough
like someone said, "which dinosaur is better than this other dinosaur is the most boring question you can ask about this amazing creatures, t. rex wins tho"
HAHA I think I may have seen that video where the paleontologist says that. Best response ever
@@Gamma138 one thing that is funny is that if you want to find something that can beat a t. rex you don't need to go 30 millions years before (before rex lived) and some miles apart (giga). Just look at rex environment and you will find the genus that killed most rexes, a fucking 10 ton horned dinosaur, the mighty triceratops, iirc scientists suggested a 80% win rate in favour of triceratops, but what can you spect from people that has grown thinking herbivore dinosaurs existed just to die, when in reality herbivores would have survived most encounters against carnivores of the same size, that people should go to Africa and try to pet a hippo or a rhino, they wont ever again think of herbivores as meat sacs
PD: you should do a critic to a video that instead of using examples like mine: trike, anky. They did a tier list of carnivores that could beat Rex, when we know there isn't one, they even spread lies like the 18 metres spino.
Im glad you made this video because me and my friend were arguing who would win and I was right!
The giga irl was more slender and almost certainly didnt have the weird armour and stuff that the movie counterpart had so irl trex dog stomps giga
That shark teeth are efficient at slicing through tissue and can sever any major arteries like somebody with a knife can do. Plus the speed and stamina advantage Gigas most likely have due to their built. I'm not saying that Gigas are better than T-Tex, but them being close in size would give Gigas a chance vs the Tyrant King instead of it completely one-sided. Idk about 1v1 fights, but at least this proves that Gigas are more efficient Sauropod killers than T-Rex.
T rex would be better at killing Armored dinos then Giga though, as both had different sorts of prey to hunt.
You covered all the important factors on the real Tyrant Lizard King. I tip my hat to you. We should always remember that the Jurassic films are still a fictional universe, which is why the dinosaurs in films are often very different (and this ignores the in-universe explanation for why), but the fact still is that what we know about the real T. Rex tells us that it is powerhouse, and for certain it would win most of the time if it fought the Spino or Giga.
That being said, at least the Giga wasn’t treated as being on steroids like the Spino was in JP3. I’m sorry Spino fans, but if that first bite was from a real T. Rex, Spino’s head would have come clean off or least his neck would be broken. Also, the whole twisting thing the Spino did would be physically impossible not only for the Spino itself to do, but the T. Rex is known for having a very strong neck-twisting that would be a tough feat to pull even with fully capable arms.
Yes, these are films, but that interpretation of the Spino is one of the most ludicrous in the series. I forgive it a bit for lack of info on the real Spino back in 2000, but still, I can’t ignore the established factors we have now. I sure as heck can laugh at the JP3 fight, though.
Dominion was so trash. The final battle makes no sense. If the giga is actually better than the rex to the point of destroying it in a few minutes, let it win. The giga did nothing villainous throughout the entirety of Dominion; no matter who wins, it doesn't matter. Instead, they make the t.rex look like garbage and then deny natural selection by making the pathetic rex team with a dinosaur that it has never met against the giga. Such a lame ending.
I hated the fact that the Giga killed the T rex so easily in the prologue. Atleast let him put up a fight before dying. And they have to stop giving Rexy help and instead let him try to handle a fair 1v1 cuz Ion even think a T rex would work with other Dinosaurs. They have to stop making my goat look so weak compared to other large carnivores.
Ikr… JWD has inaccurate dinos
@@noobmaster69426 I'm honestly fine with the anatomic inaccuracy but the T rex gotta atleast win fights without help.
@@crimsoniscrispy9999 yea
Gigas irl where slightly bigger than Rex's in terms of height. But in terms of size the spino is taller longer and heavier but remember that it is only estimated. Another dinosaur larger is charcharodontosaurus which is slight bigger in terms of proportions but not in weight.
Spinosaurus was the longest of the three , if you are talking about height though giganotosaurus edges it over the other two and because nature doesn't mind that it will keep humans arguing for all eternity, the Tyrannosaurus has the absolute advantage in terms of mass, so please enjoy the discussion of which is the largest of the three , and know that each has a valld claim as to which the biggest terrestrial carnivore to ever have walked the world! Haha, But seriously the whole thang sucks Haha Oh well and in the case to where I happen to throw my own opinion happens to be?, Rex takes this one every single time without an issue. I doubt that anyone has any interest in why I believe this to be the case, but if you are interested in why I believe this is
the case just tell me and I'll tell you why I say this is and I'll tell you dear friends O mine!
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Honesty I'd love to see something like a carcharodontosaurus face the rex
It's basically the tyrant but with bladed teeth
The giga and spino would realistically get wrecked by the rex
But the carchar has a chance It's lethal
Chatcharodontosaurus is practically the same thing as Giganotosaurus in terms of biology.
Jurassic park: Hey look at this cool T-Rex!
JP 2: alr I don’t remember much of this movie, I just remember there being a baby T. rex and velociraptors, anyways, cool!
JP 3: HEY GUYS REMEMBER THAT T-REX? LOOK AT THIS SPINOSAURUS IT CAN BEAT HIM WOW SO COOL WE MADE STAKES HIGHER
Jurassic world: HeY GuYs ThErE’s An InDoMiNuS rEx ItS BiGgEr AnD bAdDeR aNd CaN bEaT T-Rex CoMe SeE
JW 2: Hey guys there’s this clone girl who likes dinos a lot cause she thinks they are cool so she’s gonna release a bunch of invasive species all over the planet for their “well being” (reminds me of cat owners)
JW 3: LOL THE STAKES JUST GOT HIGHER HERE IS GIGANOTOSAURUS, BEAT THAT T REX
The fight in the prologue at least made sense as both animals were nearly exact equals in experience and the Giganotosaurus’s sharper teeth would’ve helped move the T-Rex like we see in the prologue, as the teeth digging into its neck and the sudden shift in balance forced the T-Rex to move to stay standing. And even then The Giganotosaurus wasn’t really able to injure the tyrannosaur, relying on the ditch to survive.
But the fight at the end of the film made almost no sense. This time around Rexy is much, much more experienced than Zeb. She’s had a speed boost as a clone making her much faster. A strength boost (idk but I’m partially sure a normal tyrannosaurus Rex would be able to stop a helicopter). And there’s no ditch to help Zeb gain the upper hand.
The fight starts off okay with Rexy using brute force and her deadly bite to overpower Zeb, while he uses the Tyrannosaur’s balance flaws to make her fall over and biting at her legs and hips to help her lose balance (even pushing her legs together at one point or yanking at her tail, both of which cause her to topple into one of the structures). And when Rexy does fall, she immediately gets back up without any issues.
It’s at the end of the fight where things get nonsensical. Both have been fighting for a short time with neither showing any sign of injury outside of a few scratches, new scars and Rexy having limp for a few seconds before recovering. Zeb manages to get his jaws around Rexy’s neck. To which he pushes her up against another structure, which topples under her weight because she’s a 7 ton tyrannosaur. And this manages to render her unconscious? Rexy had taken worse damage at a much weaker stage and was able to recover in seconds. That fall knocking her unconscious makes no sense. Sure Zeb being able to push Rexy up against the structure makes sense for reasons I’ve already explained and the fact that Zeb is the larger animal. But that fall shouldn’t of rendered her unconscious, a normal T-Rex maybe but Rexy is different genetically to her prologue self and is more durable.
By all accounts she should’ve been able to just kick Zeb in the chin or knee and/or slapped him away with her tail, got back up and just start rage fighting like she did after she recovered from the indominus’s original attack. When she literally started throwing a dinosaur bigger than she was. And that was when she hadn’t had as much food or exercise that she had in fallen kingdom or the events prior to her capture in Dominion.
TLDR the prologue fight makes decent sense but there’s almost no way the final fight scene made sense.
Sure you could blame it on her age, but that would mostly just mean she’d get tired sooner, and even still she’s middle aged as clones have double the life expectancy of their original counterparts.
They could’ve just gotten around this by saying it was “one of the biggest / deadliest carnivores the world has ever seen”.
Yeah exactly; that would’ve been fine, but they had to make it a definitive statement for the shock and tension I guess
Why are people upset about this? In the JW universe Giganotosaurus lives on a completely diffirent continent, in a completely diffirent time period, it's pretty much a fictional animal we see in the film.
Oh yeah, but it’s a prevailing myth that Giga is the “biggest dinosaur ever” so this video tries debunking that. Also general audience members won’t analyze it that much, they’ll treat it as possible fact. Also also, even with the fictional proportions, the T. Rex should still win just cuz of bite force
@@Gamma138 even then, while T.rex would win most of the time, the stronger bite force doesn't make it magically immortal, the Giga could also end the battle relatively quickly with a good enough bite, tear T.rex's neck open, resulting in the Tyrannosaurus dropping to the ground where it rapidly bleeds out. The larger Tyrannosaurus would have had the upper hand most of the time (I'd say like 80%), but a Giga taking down a T.rex is not out of the realm of possibility.
There are mamy more factors that could determine the outcome of a fight like the place of the fight or even just sheer Łuck, not just bite force. T.rex fanboys be acting like T.rex can solo the MCU, just cause it has a strong bite.
@@Gamma138 with the movie proportions, the Giganotosaurus is a 15 meters long, 9 tonne behomoth, the JP T.rex is only 12 meters long and 7 tonnes, the Giganotosaurus would have the upper hand thanks to its size advantage.
Also you're forgetting the fact that Rexy is an old lady, that's like putting a grandma against a professionals boxer, Rexy wouldn't stand a chance, a younger Rex should have been able to do more. Even the bite force, if the JP To.rex had the same bite force as a real one the Indominus wouldn't have lasted that long
@ShadowzWorld exactly, people forget that it's a fictional Universe.
@ShadowzWorld I mean, I would have understood if Jurassic Park was trying to be as accurate as possible, but it's not.
Who's the artist of the t rex killing the triceratops you used in the video? I love that art style
It’s don’t mess with dinosaurs/ brain engh
Blame Jack Horner for all the movies downplaying the T-Rex. TBH Allosaurus a real Jurrasic Therapod could have carried a movie as a big bad, battle at big rock made one terrfying.
Lemme help y'all understand what Alan meant.
As it turns out, prehistory in the franchise is different from real life too.
So everything you see cloned by Biosyn is exactly how they looked like in the prehistoric version of the franchise.
Except the spinosaurus. That was Biosyn and InGen indirectly working together.
Honestly feel like jurassicthe jurassic franchise should just stop at dominion or just reboot
Thank you, for posting this, but one small nitpick I have is that rex didn't have the strongest biteforce of ANY animal, just of any LAND animal known.
Finally someone who brings the strength on the trex to light and how rexy is always the weeker one which she by far isn't
Ok for someone who seems... a bit biased for the tyrannosaurus (which is not that rare) you do have points that are somewhat correct.
In terms of bite force.
I like how you keep bringing up the comparison to the tyrannosaurus bite being beyond stronger than the Giganotosaurus. No one is denying that. However it's bite was not meant for full and sheer power so why even try to stop there? You tend to forget it's meant for slicing prey to extreme blood loss. Remember, the giga's teeth were like highly specialized steak knives that can cut through any tough flesh, including sauropod skin. In conclusion the Giganotosaurus can easily slice the tyrannosaurus's neck or other blind spots and kill it if it has a good opening shot.
Anyone wishes to talk about the terms of size. Feel free to comment.
Finally, someone who is not completely one sided!
Great explanation, people always bring up the bite power as if it was the only thing that matter in a fight 😂
I hate how they treat those animals as some sort of pokemon with different stats.
Anyway you got my like 👍
Problem is in the movir, thr giga wasnt seen slicing and bitting, instead it was tryna crush. So it wouldnt do damage anyway. If you look closer at its fights you could notice that the giga here isnt a bleeder and instead just uses thr conventional bite and throw around
@@kingofprehistory7851 True, but either way if the Giganotosaurus were to let go, those teeth have already sank into it's neck. Allowing it's own blood to suffocate itself.
But in reality, this probably wouldn't get to that point if both apex predators overlap in the same environment. It's too risky for them to fight to the death.
@@trigz8626 Thanks yo lol
I know they love the Trex and all but they tend to forget it's not gonna win in every scenario. Like I wouldn't deny if a tyrannosaurus would win in a fight, but this goes for the same for the Giga, Spino, and Carchar. 😂
@@Huntsman67 ye u have a point, tho jw dominion has the tendency not to really show inflicted wounds :/
Rexy is elderly and suffering from arthritis, but makes it up with battle experience. The giganotosaurus is much younger and in it's prime, but is not as experienced.
In fact, we miss the point that they are not dinosaurs, they are just assets. So, it doesn't matter what is bigger or smaller.
Giganatosaurus vs trex from (Jurassic world dominion) Giga wins Trex vs Giga (reality) trex slams
Gained a sub. I've always hated that ark let the giga be the biggest apex predator in the game and wished they would have made the rex slightly bigger.
Yeah , if you look at jurrasic parks t rex , its smaller, probably weight 5-6 tons so the jurradoc park t rex is smaller than in real life
Thicc boi with hammer vs scrawny boi with knife
Giga has 6000 newtons of bite force
Rex has 35000 newtons of bite force.
T-Rex was THE Apex predator.
That's why I stopped ✋️ watching 👀 Jurassic Park, they were punking the T-Rex and I knew it was wrong!!!
T-Rex got alot bigger than people thought.
i dont like how they went for retro dinos but its pretty cool
I would love to see the newly discovered spinosaurus vs the original t-rex
In reality (I know it was impossible but anyhow ;))
-Hey you're big
-Yeah, you to
-Ok, I'll go my way then
-Sure, me too
That's the typical behaviour of today predators, so it's wrong to assume that back then it would be different. There is too much risk of injury in direct combat of apex (or close) predators.
It's a movie, it's made for entertainment, nobody said that giga can kill a T.Rex IRL, but in JWverse, giga stomps a Rex. And giga in JWverse is THE biggest theropod, by length (55 feet long), by weight (12-13 tons), by height (22 feet tall). JWD giga is heavier than IRL Rex, JWD giga weighs 12-13 tons while IRL Rex weighs 8-9 tons. Giga in Dominion is way more muscular then IRL Rex. JWD giga's bite is almost as strong as Rexy (Rexy has a bite of 12K psi). JWD Giga has a bite of 10K psi. IRL Rex has a bite of 9-11K psi. JWD giga has also shown to use terrain against it's enemy, uses "block-hitting" combat skills to kill his opponent while also preventing bites from them. JWD giga defeated buck and doe t.rex in a 2v1 battle (off screen). The giga in prologue and in JWD aren't meant to be accurate. He is meant to be overpowered. I get it Rex beats giga irl but not in JWverse.
It ain't called the tyrant lizard king for nothing
Imagine a crocodile fighting a lizard the same size but lighter.... and there is your answer
in Jurassic Franchise Giga is the biggest carnivore (if we dont count illegaly cloned Spino or fully grow Indominus) and its even confirmed that Jurassic Franchise rexes are small game hunters
In the Jurassic Universe the Giga is obviously bigger, not real life. Plus even real life Giga would still be a formidable dinosaur, if it could do damage to sauropods it could most likely damage a similar size opponent, also yes Giga was more agile and faster than T-Rex, but again, in movies Giga was bigger and we know ow realistic Jurassic Park is. (It’s not)
1:53 In defense to the Giga's weaker bite, it's jaw and teeth are more serrated and could probably kill a Rex by slashing through a carotid artery.
I wasn’t very satisfied with the final battle. This is THE Rexy. When Rexy woke up they should of had her go beast mode on the giga. They should have had Rexy end with a strong fight that didn’t require help from other Dino’s.
I swear when she got up the cod zombies meme played in my head
Whoever gets the first bite wins
Well the bigger trope is overplayed now but ppl also severely forget that Rexy is above her life span which is 30 years
The bite force of the T-Rex has been estimated using the bite force of modern crocodiles as a reference for computer modeling, at somewhere around 8000 pounds. This is over twice the biting force of the largest recorded modern crocodiles and 4x that of the Spotted Hyena.
To make use if this force, the T-Rex had triangular teeth a foot in length, about half of which was exposed abd the rest of which was attached to the skull. The teeth were serrated for cutting and unlike thinner bladed profile teeth of most other predators, could have crushed bone, allowing the T-Rex to tear gigantic chunks off of its prey. The tip of the teeth could deliver 431,000 PSI, allowing the T-Rex to devour anything standing in its way and deliver a single killing bite to the largest animals that have ever walked on this planet.
The T-Rex didn't have arms because it didn't need them. It stood on massive, powerful legs with a thicj, counter-balancing tail allowing it to hold up a head equipped with an incredible sense of smell and excellent binocular vision with an overlapping field of view similar to modern birds of prey. And it had a bite to finish any prey or opponent instantly. The T-Rex ruled like a tyrant.
I like you used a real life pictures when talking about the trex when it had a bulky neck
If they want a villain dinosaur instead of it fighting the previous apex predator make it more of a threat to the people