I watched my professor's prerecorded lecture about bureacucracy FOUR times and still could barely get any info out of it. This video saved my life. So clear and straight up. Thanks!
‘Vey-ber’ is the correct way to say this as he is German. However most of Europe wouldn’t pronounce their W’s as V’s as this is specific to the German language/accent.
I've heard many people say what you've said but I've heard just as many educated people in the US say that it is acceptable to use the B sound in the US (even though many people in the US still say it V). Case in point, Germans pronounce the W in Volkswagen with a V sound but in the US we pronounce it B even though it is a German name. Weber is a very common name in the US. It clearly has German origins but we say it with the B sound 100% of the time when it is an American. All that to say, V is the correct, traditional way to say it but B is an acceptable pronunciation in the US. And, believe me, I looked into it for a long time before I said it. For many words, two pronunciations can both be correct even though one is preferred. Anyway, thanks for the comment. I'm sure people will be debating this for a long time in academia. I wish Weber was here to tell us. :-)
I had been attentively listening to my professor for 3 hours and I still didn't understand it. Having watched this video for 10 mins, I finally understand the theory. Thanks!
I can study here with same enthusiasm as I complete Web Series or a movie. Each video I am watching is Best. Thanks for all time and efforts for making such amazing content and great explanation...!!!
Thank you thank you thank you.... i don't have to hide in some corner to read to understand all the long age management theories..just need an hour maximum two to understand your explanations. God bless you.
Hi, this video was amazing. Thank you so much! I tried reading "Working in America" By Amy Wharton, and she just confuses everything with her complex language. Thankfully, you went straight to the point and things really make sense.
Thank you so much for your lecture from St. Petersburg, Russia (North-West Institute of Management of THE RUSSIAN PRESIDENTIAL ACADEMY OF NATIONAL ECONOMY AND PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION)
Hi John. It depends on what types of mean by public sector but I'll do my best to answer. Most large organizations in the public sector still run today in a bureaucratic fashion. The public sector mirrors and extends the legal-rational system of government. In that way, they are managed very similar to traditional government organizations. Having said that, my area of expertise is organizational communication and does not focus much on the public sector. I look more so at private organizations. Not sure this answers your question but that's what I've got for you.
No man live in Ireland for the last 10 years, iam currently 18 so you can do the math 😉 but my god I fully consider myself polish even though my accent might not suggest so 😅
I'm 1/2 Polish but really just American except for some really great Polish food and awesome relatives growing up. BTW, I'm switching between my two TH-cam channel accounts as I post. I replied about not knowing about a topic you requested in your other post. I do the Organizational Communication Channel and the one I'm posting under now, Communication Coach. I hope to visit Ireland someday. It's aways intrigued me. Thanks for posting.
Rationalisation isn't something that Weber was necessarily against, but it certaintly isn't something that he wanted. He warned us about modernity and rational capitalism.
I think I agree with you. From my reading, he preferred a legal-rational approach over traditional/family authority and charismatic authority. He knew the shortcomings of bureaucracy but thought it was the best of the alternatives.
Buddy, can you make a quantity surveying video based on take off sheets and how to understand substructure & superstructure and how the figures work ? Would be GREATLY appreciated. All the best man !!
Glad you like the channel, Robert. I don't know anything about those topics, though. Wish I did. Sorry about that. My background is in communication in the workplace.
Organizational Communication Channel no worries you helped me out so much anyway as your videos really make it clear and easy to understand rather than reading lots of hand outs given in college, I just thought I'd change my arm as I'm really in a bit of bother in that area!!
Hi Oliver. Thanks for posting. I am no expert on particularism specifically. My understanding of it comes from regular old readings on Weber's Bureaucracy. You may want to start on Google Scholar and look up specific articles on that term in terms of drilling down. Good luck.
Thank you sooo much....it really helped me a lot...I couldn't really understand the topic before but after watching this video its clarified ...Thank You😊..Thanks a lot
In Utah, we have a county called Weber. Here it's pronounced Wee-ber. Weh-ber is more likely to be spelled with a double b, Webber. The German of Weber pronunciation would be more like Vay-bǝ.
@@hortshack Yeah, I was vehemently taught by an amazing (American) professor that it is pronounce Vay-ber, as that would be how Weber himself pronounced it.
Hi , thanks a lot for this video it really helped me along with F Taylor scientific management. One questions i have been trying to get around is if you think the scientific and classic management theory as explained do you think its not relevant for todays managers?
One main i feel is the structure of how these new organisations run such as google thrive of initiative ideas and social interaction , something which personally i feel scientific and classical management don’t offer.
Scientific management is still used today, more than ever really. It's used in most production-based organization, food, etc. However, knowledge-driven organizations like Google are not in the business of producing tangible products. So, it does not fit that situation as much.
I'm just reporting what I've been told and researched. I'm not claiming to know myself. Apparently, even in certain parts of Germany, they pronounce it with the W sound. So, the reality is, people pronounce this differently, strictly speaking, neither are incorrect even if "Vey" is preferred. But, people sure do feel strongly about it.
The iron cage started out more broadly than just with bureaucracy, he tried to describe how rationalization of our personal and societal lives informs and guides our actions. Bureaucracies are a manifest form of that. The German phrase he used that became "iron cage" was "stahlhartes Gehäuse der Hörigkeit" which directly translates to "steel hardened case of obedience". The obedience to rationality, objectivity, order, efficiency that over time manifests in systems, institutions even customs. Weber ended his 1904 work "The protestant ethics and the spirit of capitalism" in an almost, in hindsight, ironic way by saying that this economic order of industrial production exerts such an overwhelming pressure("überwältigender Zwang") on everyone to abide by its logic and rule and that it will do so until the last ton of fossil fuel is burned up. ("bis der letzte Zenter fossilen Brennstoffs verglüht ist.") Weber analyzed industrialization and early capitalism and described the way it functions, but he was also critical about the implications it might have to let economic rationality and considerations of efficiency have such a massive influence on the way humans live. A perspective that may have been lost to the fact that forthcoming generations didn't ever get to know any other way. I always liked this quote, although I don't know if it translates as well: ‚Fachmenschen ohne Geist, Genussmenschen ohne Herz: dies Nichts bildet sich ein, eine nie vorher erreichte Stufe des Menschentums erstiegen zu haben.‘ "Professionals without spirit, connoisseurs without heart: This nothing imagines to have climbed to a never before reached level of humanity." In other words he feared efficiency for efficiency's sake. To me, Weber's work has been the best answer to the question of why we can't seem to do anything about climate change. The rationalities we follow and the systems we built around them aren't prepared for a scenario like this. And the power structures that formed as a result of this economic system prevent necessary change and reform. That's the iron cage. For over a century we followed the logic of growth, only to find out that we forgot to take a look at the logic of sustainability. But hey, we still got to call what we did "rational".
I do not recommend using citing this video as a source. It would be better to use a journal article about Weber and Taylor. This video is just like a teacher's lecture on the topic and we don't typically cite teachers' lectures as a source.
Agreed! I put it in there because it's a minor debate but really NOT supposed to be the subject of the video. But, what can you do? At least people are watching. :-)
legal rarional authority- consistent w rules of society. authority should reside in position not person. if someone leaves should not have influence afterwards fr sidelines. 1.division of labour: lots different steps. could be simple but instead divided into steps. why? to protect against disproportionate lopsided influnces. 2. pyramid structure. employees, supervisors, managers. 3. general rules govern how you perform. everyone should be evaluated by. propote if uphold rules move up and get a raise. uphold policies. 4. supervisor marries coworker. must move one to different department.so no direct supervision. disregard preference. 5. equal treatment. selected or promoted bc your qualified. 6. view employment as tenure. been there a while have veteran status. not fire for petty personal reason. all over the place. when you hear administration. beuracracy style of structure. branches of goverment. school. military. for profit organization. factory. concept of red tape- slows needed action. to do anything constrained limit people action. iron cage- control individual freedom. stuck own devided labour. better than traditional authority.
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I watched my professor's prerecorded lecture about bureacucracy FOUR times and still could barely get any info out of it. This video saved my life. So clear and straight up. Thanks!
I'm glad the video was helpful, Sara. Thank you for the encouragement.
‘Vey-ber’ is the correct way to say this as he is German. However most of Europe wouldn’t pronounce their W’s as V’s as this is specific to the German language/accent.
I've heard many people say what you've said but I've heard just as many educated people in the US say that it is acceptable to use the B sound in the US (even though many people in the US still say it V). Case in point, Germans pronounce the W in Volkswagen with a V sound but in the US we pronounce it B even though it is a German name. Weber is a very common name in the US. It clearly has German origins but we say it with the B sound 100% of the time when it is an American. All that to say, V is the correct, traditional way to say it but B is an acceptable pronunciation in the US. And, believe me, I looked into it for a long time before I said it. For many words, two pronunciations can both be correct even though one is preferred. Anyway, thanks for the comment. I'm sure people will be debating this for a long time in academia. I wish Weber was here to tell us. :-)
He never asked a German!
I would not pronounce it with a Y myself, but maybe i pronounce it wrong
It's "Weaber", like in "wealth" or "weary", long vocal. Or like "web" but the e is long.
Now pronounce it in German.@@Maisel9
I had problem with this topic in the class but this video clarified everything, really helpful. Thanks Alex from India.
Your welcome from New York State (the part of the state with the Finger Lakes and Niagara Falls).
kimneinem chongloi hey prasad and prasad is a good book if you are interested in reading about Administrative thinkers and theories. Fellow Indian. ☺️
@@ravin2363 o thank u for the recommendation I will gladly do so👍
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I had been attentively listening to my professor for 3 hours and I still didn't understand it. Having watched this video for 10 mins, I finally understand the theory. Thanks!
Glad it helped!
Sir , you have made a great contribution by explanation of steps and made it simplified, Thanks
Well Done Sir, your points are what is needed to as a perfect start for Weberian Administration Theory.
Why did my professor make this seem hard 😭. This helped too much 💜
I can study here with same enthusiasm as I complete Web Series or a movie.
Each video I am watching is Best.
Thanks for all time and efforts for making such amazing content and great explanation...!!!
So nice of you! Glad the videos are helpful.
Thank you so much, I am doing online studies and I feel like you are my professor. I really appreciate your videos to better understand key concepts!
Happy the videos are helpful, Jessica. Good luck in your studies.
My curiosity is elevated with this piece of informed explanation
Thanks I want to get this book. I read Bureaucracy by James Wilson which is more contemporary book that does source this one.
This is so well explained, I'm so enlightened. Thanks, man.
My pleasure!
I have an exam next week , Thank you so much 😊 from France 🇫🇷
Happy to help, Rachel, from New York state!
Thank you thank you thank you.... i don't have to hide in some corner to read to understand all the long age management theories..just need an hour maximum two to understand your explanations. God bless you.
Hi, Nancy. I'm glad it was helpful. God bless you, too!
English is not my first language but this was simplified and I could understand most of it, thank you!
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Hi, this video was amazing. Thank you so much! I tried reading "Working in America" By Amy Wharton, and she just confuses everything with her complex language. Thankfully, you went straight to the point and things really make sense.
I'm glad the video was helpful, Guzman. Thanks for your encouragement.
Thank you so much for your lecture from St. Petersburg, Russia (North-West Institute of Management of THE RUSSIAN PRESIDENTIAL ACADEMY OF NATIONAL ECONOMY AND PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION)
Thanks for your amazing videos,getting sleepy reading theories but your videos made my day.
Thank you for this! I was reading Characteristics of Bureaucracy by Max Weber and was getting so confused
Thank you soo much this will help me in tomorrow s test. Your explanation is amazing and yet understandable and simple.
Though i watched these video which uploaded 5 years ago , it is still really useful to me.
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I'm glad the videos are helpful. :-) Thank you for the encouragement.
I'm glad the videos are helpful. :-) Thank you for the encouragement.
excellent explanations. will definitely be watching the rest of the videos
Where there’s a will, there’s a Weber.
I‘m from Germany and one of my best friends last name is Weber. We don‘t pronounce it like Vey-ber. We pronounce it like Ve-ber, so without the y.
Thank you Alex for your clear breakdown of Max Weber's theory
It helped a lot, thank you sir. Wish you best... from Turkey
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Best explanation.. I got help for my presentation.❤️
thank you very much. Your video assisted me a lot. From PNG (South Pacific).
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Me too alex...lot of loves from india brother..
Hi, How does Weber’s theory of bureaucracy and its relevance to Public Sector Management?
Hi John. It depends on what types of mean by public sector but I'll do my best to answer. Most large organizations in the public sector still run today in a bureaucratic fashion. The public sector mirrors and extends the legal-rational system of government. In that way, they are managed very similar to traditional government organizations. Having said that, my area of expertise is organizational communication and does not focus much on the public sector. I look more so at private organizations. Not sure this answers your question but that's what I've got for you.
Thanks it helps a lot.
I'm polish and trust me it's veber 😅
Do you live in Poland?
No man live in Ireland for the last 10 years, iam currently 18 so you can do the math 😉 but my god I fully consider myself polish even though my accent might not suggest so 😅
I'm 1/2 Polish but really just American except for some really great Polish food and awesome relatives growing up. BTW, I'm switching between my two TH-cam channel accounts as I post. I replied about not knowing about a topic you requested in your other post. I do the Organizational Communication Channel and the one I'm posting under now, Communication Coach. I hope to visit Ireland someday. It's aways intrigued me. Thanks for posting.
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Rationalisation isn't something that Weber was necessarily against, but it certaintly isn't something that he wanted. He warned us about modernity and rational capitalism.
I think I agree with you. From my reading, he preferred a legal-rational approach over traditional/family authority and charismatic authority. He knew the shortcomings of bureaucracy but thought it was the best of the alternatives.
Thanks for the video. Which book can I read to understand the basic notions of administration?"
Buddy, can you make a quantity surveying video based on take off sheets and how to understand substructure & superstructure and how the figures work ? Would be GREATLY appreciated.
All the best man !!
Glad you like the channel, Robert. I don't know anything about those topics, though. Wish I did. Sorry about that. My background is in communication in the workplace.
Organizational Communication Channel no worries you helped me out so much anyway as your videos really make it clear and easy to understand rather than reading lots of hand outs given in college, I just thought I'd change my arm as I'm really in a bit of bother in that area!!
This has been so clear. Thanks. I now understand. What this theory is I can answer any questions concerning the theory thanks again
Glad it was helpful!
thank you from India.
Hello from NY state.
Thank you...what are the examples of a beauricratic social movement???
Just love your work....keep going ...be blessed
Productivity means to some extent extended to anyone while comes under industrialization of handucrafts.
Are there videos on quantitative , behavioral, contemporary approach?
Very easy to understand and helpful.
Thank you for answering my exam question in sociology 👍
i have just seen what i was looking for. thanks you
This video really helped me clear my concepts on this topic..! Great Job, well done..😊
Hi, Sabiha. I'm glad the video helped you.
HI, I am just wondering what book is best to read and reference for an essay in relation to Weber's idea of particularism. Many thanks.
Hi Oliver. Thanks for posting. I am no expert on particularism specifically. My understanding of it comes from regular old readings on Weber's Bureaucracy. You may want to start on Google Scholar and look up specific articles on that term in terms of drilling down. Good luck.
Thank you sooo much....it really helped me a lot...I couldn't really understand the topic before but after watching this video its clarified ...Thank You😊..Thanks a lot
Happy to help!
Excellent explanation video.
Thanks for the video- was super helpful to prepare for my test on Weber :)
In Utah, we have a county called Weber. Here it's pronounced Wee-ber. Weh-ber is more likely to be spelled with a double b, Webber. The German of Weber pronunciation would be more like Vay-bǝ.
Volkswagen is pronounced more like Folksvagen. Great video! Thanks
Thanks, Tygar.
Thank you so much well explained ,and clear...
In the part of Germany i live we would Pronounce it like Weber so the US Version
Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.
It's actually more like Veh-ber.
@@hortshack Yeah, I was vehemently taught by an amazing (American) professor that it is pronounce Vay-ber, as that would be how Weber himself pronounced it.
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You're welcome! Glad it helped.
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Amazing video! For the pronounciation of "Volkswagen", try to say it like "Folksvaagen", then you're in German again ^^
thanks it made my work very easy and the explanation was very good
someone please tell me the exact definition of bureaucracy by Weber himself
hello sir, can you also please explain Verstehen and causal pluralism
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Great work
Helpful video thank you
How do you cite this in APA
How can I cite this? Very helpful.👍🏻🇿🇲
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Can someone help me at 8:15 what does people still take advantage means?
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not sure if you will see this but what type of theorist was Weber? I was thinking he fell under the lines of a functionalist
Agreed. Most of the classical organizational studies crowd were functionalists.
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Hi , thanks a lot for this video it really helped me along with F Taylor scientific management. One questions i have been trying to get around is if you think the scientific and classic management theory as explained do you think its not relevant for todays managers?
One main i feel is the structure of how these new organisations run such as google thrive of initiative ideas and social interaction , something which personally i feel scientific and classical management don’t offer.
Scientific management is still used today, more than ever really. It's used in most production-based organization, food, etc. However, knowledge-driven organizations like Google are not in the business of producing tangible products. So, it does not fit that situation as much.
It is Veber, since hes German. French names are also termed as they should
@0.40: It's trying out a german name as if it were an american name is almost never a good idea.
I'm just reporting what I've been told and researched. I'm not claiming to know myself. Apparently, even in certain parts of Germany, they pronounce it with the W sound. So, the reality is, people pronounce this differently, strictly speaking, neither are incorrect even if "Vey" is preferred. But, people sure do feel strongly about it.
Huge. Thank you.
You're welcome, Cameron. I'm glad it helps.
appreciate it when u mention how to pronounce Weber.
If Weber acknowledges the 'iron cage' of bureaucracy, isn't he criticising his own management theory?
Yes, exactly. He thought bureaucracy was better than the alternatives but he saw its limitations.
Lulu Lavi He thought bureaucracy is the most efficient but rationality kills liberty
The iron cage started out more broadly than just with bureaucracy, he tried to describe how rationalization of our personal and societal lives informs and guides our actions. Bureaucracies are a manifest form of that.
The German phrase he used that became "iron cage" was "stahlhartes Gehäuse der Hörigkeit" which directly translates to "steel hardened case of obedience".
The obedience to rationality, objectivity, order, efficiency that over time manifests in systems, institutions even customs.
Weber ended his 1904 work "The protestant ethics and the spirit of capitalism" in an almost, in hindsight, ironic way by saying that this economic order of industrial production exerts such an overwhelming pressure("überwältigender Zwang") on everyone to abide by its logic and rule and that it will do so until the last ton of fossil fuel is burned up. ("bis der letzte Zenter fossilen Brennstoffs verglüht ist.")
Weber analyzed industrialization and early capitalism and described the way it functions, but he was also critical about the implications it might have to let economic rationality and considerations of efficiency have such a massive influence on the way humans live. A perspective that may have been lost to the fact that forthcoming generations didn't ever get to know any other way.
I always liked this quote, although I don't know if it translates as well:
‚Fachmenschen ohne Geist, Genussmenschen ohne Herz: dies Nichts bildet sich ein, eine nie vorher erreichte Stufe des Menschentums erstiegen zu haben.‘
"Professionals without spirit, connoisseurs without heart: This nothing imagines to have climbed to a never before reached level of humanity."
In other words he feared efficiency for efficiency's sake.
To me, Weber's work has been the best answer to the question of why we can't seem to do anything about climate change.
The rationalities we follow and the systems we built around them aren't prepared for a scenario like this. And the power structures that formed as a result of this economic system prevent necessary change and reform. That's the iron cage.
For over a century we followed the logic of growth, only to find out that we forgot to take a look at the logic of sustainability.
But hey, we still got to call what we did "rational".
Hi Alex,
You are a fantastic communicator. Thank you for the videos you have made.
Bri
Thank you for the encouragement, Bri. I appreciate it. More videos on the way.
thank you sir..keep up the good work and you will soon have million subscribers...
Thank you, Dulom. I appreciate your encouragement. :-)
thanks for posting. very helpful
You're welcome. Glad it was helpful.
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Awesome thank you
Thanks again, Neelam. :-)
how can APA 6, reference this video and Bureaucracy and your video about Taylorism!
I do not recommend using citing this video as a source. It would be better to use a journal article about Weber and Taylor. This video is just like a teacher's lecture on the topic and we don't typically cite teachers' lectures as a source.
Organizational Communication Channel thank you!! I won’t breach Plagiarism will I though?
@@designermakes6100 You should speak with your teacher about it.
Hilarious that most people took the pronunciation of Weber is the main subject of the video
Agreed! I put it in there because it's a minor debate but really NOT supposed to be the subject of the video. But, what can you do? At least people are watching. :-)
Your videos are awesome 😮😍 Just started our class about Administrative Theories and this is very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Obviety is the utmost proverbial in the great micro cyclotron of managerial motion ......Suindu De
Really good video.
Glad you enjoyed it.
This helped a lot! You are great :D
Hi, Live Star Productions. Thank you for the encouragement!
Thank you so much
If someone cares, as a German I can tell you "We-ber" is the correct pronounciation "Vey-ber" is something different.
I do care and I appreciate it. Thank you, Galliano. :-)
Thank you.
well explained, great job.
Thank you, Jonas. I'm glad it helped.
Jonas Nambaya it is a great video
legal rarional authority- consistent w rules of society.
authority should reside in position not person.
if someone leaves should not have influence afterwards fr sidelines.
1.division of labour: lots different steps. could be simple but instead divided into steps. why? to protect against disproportionate lopsided influnces.
2. pyramid structure. employees, supervisors, managers.
3. general rules govern how you perform. everyone should be evaluated by. propote if uphold rules move up and get a raise. uphold policies.
4. supervisor marries coworker. must move one to different department.so no direct supervision. disregard preference.
5. equal treatment. selected or promoted bc your qualified.
6. view employment as tenure. been there a while have veteran status. not fire for petty personal reason.
all over the place. when you hear administration. beuracracy style of structure. branches of goverment. school. military. for profit organization. factory.
concept of red tape- slows needed action. to do anything constrained limit people action.
iron cage- control individual freedom.
stuck own devided labour.
better than traditional authority.