Imagine having an athletic beast with probably a top 5ish first step in the whole league and not allowing him to develop because they want to run 4 guard lineups with draymond at center.
Kuminga gets opportunities and he's just not consistent. The team cant win with him being the focal point of their offense. Every now and then, he gives flashes of what he can do, but what he did to a relaxed Clipper team isn't what he can do to the rest of the league, at least not yet.
Blaming Draymond over Kerr is crazy. Kerr is the one that chooses to bench the young players when they claw back a lead. TDJ balled out on Christmas and got benched for it.
Yeah, you ain't listening... Those who love Steph and Dray over team, they prefer to just blame Kerr for everything, even when it's Steph and Dray's action that caused the L. The roster overall is flawed. Kerr hasn't coached this team well, Steph has finally looked mortal this year, and Dray is the actual heart of the teams problems, which is allowed by Steph and Kerr. Most don't understand that Dray really can't play any other way. He's the problem that keeps on giving... And it's sad. He still gives flashes of greatness on both sides of the ball, but the normal basics stuff, he continues to hurt this team.
@@jamiu22 I don't think this is a "both sides are true" situation. He was forced to play young vs the Clippers. They played well, but talent and experience held out for the Clippers. So now Kerr gets to pretend like he's been right all along and the issues will persist.
@@4ktkaram395 ok so put him back in a system as a 6th man of a WINNING team. What you think he finna do, ion know what point you were trynna prove. Mf payton pritchard on crack
@@4ktkaram395that should honestly be more of a testament to how good he is right now because he balled out on the warriors and averaged 17 on 50/40/90 splits when allowed to play his game. it’s been years since then and now he’s averaging great numbers on the worst team in the league, put him back in a good system and his numbers will skyrocket. 😂
@@denzel8827 numbers def suffering bc theres nothing to worry about when playing the Wizards except him TBH. So, if they had a star(like when he was with steph) open looks would SKYROCKET.
Draymond is a liability on this team straight up. If the Warriors cared to win they would bench or let go of Draymond but hey favoritism is more important so 🤷🏽♂️.
Interesting video. I’ve always thought the warriors didn’t do a good job of developing guys but it makes sense that’s tough when everything g revolves around curry.
How are people blaming Dray ? He’s actually having a decent season so far , yeah there’s been some careless passes , unnecessary fouls , but that’s not new … here’s what , when fundamentally sound basketball is played your odds of winning is increased , play like it’s a youth rec league and those odds decrease exponentially… these are professional basketball players , if they can’t pull it together and play the game , what’s to say ? Sure Kerr and his mad scientist line ups are questionable.. but again these guys are professional players with enough experience to get it done … pointing fingers , screaming fire the coach and all that Jazz seems warranted but is it ? I don’t know …. A big or two would sure come in handy …. But it needs to be the right player/ players … warriors style is not exactly plug in & go … okay go easy on the font attacks I feel are coming my way .. lol be kind I’m just a mom from Jersey who loves basketball….
Draymond is the warriors Udonis Haslem. Old guy that they pretty soon will just be yapping on the bench threatening to beat up the team aka the coach’s enforcer
Draymond gets away with fouling almost every play and has been for years he cannot defend a traditional 7 ft player if he’s not elbowing or kicking players in the nuts he is useless
Kerr, Steph and Dray are all a package deal at this point. You accept one you accept all. None of them can conceive of playing any other way it seems. Steph is very noticeably declining people try to deny it for years but this season it's clear as day. Not only do the stats say he's declining you watch games and you can see how old and tired he is. Not only can he not go the way he used to every game he can't even do it for a whole quarter. In individual situations he struggles to get by even minus defenders sometimes. I know his and the team ego won't let and he's still a cash cow but they really should be trading Steph to jump start the rebuild. Fire Steve trade Donkey and start drafting a rebuilding give J, TJD and Mood all the runway they want in a simple modern system.
Even 2016 regular Steph can't win in this league. It's too exhausting w all this depth. Karma caught up bc that's what everyone playing GS felt. Team was too fast deep amd def hounds amd switching perfectly and team contests. He needs prime GS and himself to be in his prime again
This is the most perceptive channel on the platform. Really glad I found it. Immediate subscribe. I would have loved for this team to embrace a 2-man game w/ Steph and Draymond that was more spiritual. Where Draymond can anchor a defensive lineup with the young guys while Steph anchors an offensive lineup with the young guys. But playing them at the same time is overkill at this point
@@4ktkaram395you lied they just played Minnesota without Dray Steph had 30 and 10 double double he averages more assist and is more aggressive without draymond you fool
@@BruceWayne-ck2yybut they both need each other draymond know how to hide curry on defense and how to find curry it make his life easier they help each other and is y’all best defender y’all team ain’t good so the dou ain’t looking good even curry had 2 points in one game
It's not Draymond's fault but Kerr's fault for empowering Draymond so much in the system. Having an offensive PF, paired with a defensive big, would be huge. Kessler and Collins fit that bill.
I agree with the general premise of the video about Draymond's importance (or lack of) at this stage of his career. Idk if the right solution is giving the ball to Kuminga and letting him play free. He struggles creating offense for himself in the half court and is a below average passer
But he played good in the Christmas game and he is y’all best defender if y’all bench him y’all defense will be worse and other than draymond who is a willing passer he still got something left in the tank yall just need another scorer start curry get Zach Lavine ball trade Wiggins podestry kuminga . The knew line up is curry lonzo Zach Lavine draymond tdj
I just said something similar in warriors chat among friends. The starting front court should be TJD, Kuminga, Wiggins. The game today (27 December 2024) Kuminga and TJD almost brought them back from a 20pt deficit.
All of the top 5 players are tethered to other greats. Jordan never won without Pippen, Kareem had Magic and Oscar, LeBron has changed teams 4 times for his 4 rings, and so on. Team games need teammates.
Imo ,there's one thing about Draymond that you Aren't taking in account .I think the Warriors understand Draymonds Value ..the thing with Draymond is ,He isn't as valuable to the other teams in the league as he is when he's on the Warriors .No team on the league needs him and for the few teams that could use him they aren't going to be willing to give up Valuable pieces to get him
I’ve been saying this for a long time. You’ve said it perfectly. Plus Steph don’t need Draymond-at all. On top of all that you said from an X’s and O’s perspective, Draymond doesn’t deserve to get a chance to win a 5th with Curry because of all the nonsense that has cost the Warriors games, playoff seedings, shot creators, and ultimately a championship.
1:20 bro I've been saying this forever. If you continue to go in on Curry and then GS im subscribed and watching every video. This entire tangent you completely nailed it and now context than anyone else I've seen. He's no joker and they give him the same LeBron narrative of everyone wants to play w him lol. It was prime GS and kerr system not Steph
It's both! The 2 man game between steph and dray is soo predictable now! It also often turn-over prone. It sucks the life out of the other players on the floor - they just ball watching.
Just from my observation, I think is on the court for the simple fact that he makes Steph’s job easier. I think when Draymond is on the court, Steph has more freedom to move without the ball and run off screens. When Draymond is not on the court, Steph has to try to create his own shot which wears him down. I agree with everything you say about Draymond though. This biggest issue is that this team keeps declining because the team will not move away from the 2-man game if Steph and Draymond. And I don’t think Draymond will ever leave Golden state unless forced to because he’ll get exposed anywhere else.
Problem could've been solved had they drafted LaMelo or Haliburton like I wanted the dubs too. Would've allowed steph to age timelessly with less wear and tear, and you'd have your star of the future.
@ you heard what the dude said on how Draymond don’t like other shot creators because he becomes less involved in the offense. It’s why he ran KD and Poole outta town.
Ima be real I agree but I also disagree. There’s no way I could sit up here and say the main reason we’re struggling is because draymond and Steph are taking over the offense where Steph has had multiple games where he shoots under 10 shots this season the problem has been that Steph hasn’t been involved to start off games where draymond has the ball in his hands all the time. I encourage people to really rewatch these games. In that Indiana game Steph didn’t even shoot the ball that first quarter and had a total of 3 shots taken by the 3rd😭 I don’t think it’s the both of them dominating the offense rather just too much draymond dominating the ball. Also I really don’t think we’d be having as much issues if Steve would just smarten up and play some bigger lineups. And stop with this overuse of motion offense but we know he won’t so he has to go. Draymond genuinely is a liability on offense but his defense is still good (if he actually tries) so idk but I wouldn’t be mad if we traded him for some good pieces.
I was punching the air when they traded Poole, I thought it should have been Draymond. They would’ve kept Poole, Klay, Curry and use the bigs they have now like looney and TJD. They wouldn’t be struggling now if Poole was handling the ball along with Curry
@ how so? He’s not playing as good as he did when he was playing for the warriors. Not to mention the difficulty of the shots he was taking and making was higher. Just one not both
He did a great job guarding jokic which was their biggest threat. He's their toughness cause Curry n Dem are soft. Every championship team has an enforcer
Im a warriors fan and ive been done with this Cat for time. Hes an overbearing presence vocally and energy wise, and hes turnover prone as well. The defense he provides and all the hype it gets is overrated for me, because so many of the other things he does, at a 25m price point, under the new CBA, is basically a black hole for the team. The roster construction is so flawed, the coaching and system is archaic and outdated, and Steph just goes along to get along, not really exercising any type of power or voice that he could wield to put a stop to all this nonsense. If you really unpack Draymonds blunders historically, 2016, 73-9 season, finals suspension cost us a chip. Durant leaving for sure had something to do with DeDe running his mouth. Poole we lost because of Dray, and last season his WWE moves and 27 games missed for suspension for sure cost us at least 7-10 wins. Hes basically a Cancer when you unpack it fully.
Imagine having an athletic beast with probably a top 5ish first step in the whole league and not allowing him to develop because they want to run 4 guard lineups with draymond at center.
didnt they just put draymond on the bench what are you talking about????
@ if you count like 4 games
Kuminga gets opportunities and he's just not consistent. The team cant win with him being the focal point of their offense. Every now and then, he gives flashes of what he can do, but what he did to a relaxed Clipper team isn't what he can do to the rest of the league, at least not yet.
“why is draymond safe” is a funny video title with no context to it lmaoo
Draymond will not play if Curry not playing. Draymond is useless if Curry is not on the court.
U called it
Curry would never win wo Green hiding him
Golden State front office is probably scared of Draymond. Don't want to get punched if they upset him too much.
Because no team will give up anything valuable for draymond
that jordan pool expensive backpack claim getting validated slowly by people actually eye testing Draymond
Blaming Draymond over Kerr is crazy. Kerr is the one that chooses to bench the young players when they claw back a lead. TDJ balled out on Christmas and got benched for it.
Naa....he blaming Kerr for playing Draymond too much. Both things are right - Kerr sucks, and Dayday cheeks now.
Yeah, you ain't listening... Those who love Steph and Dray over team, they prefer to just blame Kerr for everything, even when it's Steph and Dray's action that caused the L. The roster overall is flawed. Kerr hasn't coached this team well, Steph has finally looked mortal this year, and Dray is the actual heart of the teams problems, which is allowed by Steph and Kerr. Most don't understand that Dray really can't play any other way. He's the problem that keeps on giving... And it's sad. He still gives flashes of greatness on both sides of the ball, but the normal basics stuff, he continues to hurt this team.
@@jamiu22 I don't think this is a "both sides are true" situation. He was forced to play young vs the Clippers. They played well, but talent and experience held out for the Clippers.
So now Kerr gets to pretend like he's been right all along and the issues will persist.
It’s no coincidence that Poole is balling out on the Wizards right now🤷🏽
💯💯💯
On the worst team in the league 😂
@@4ktkaram395 ok so put him back in a system as a 6th man of a WINNING team. What you think he finna do, ion know what point you were trynna prove. Mf payton pritchard on crack
@@4ktkaram395that should honestly be more of a testament to how good he is right now because he balled out on the warriors and averaged 17 on 50/40/90 splits when allowed to play his game. it’s been years since then and now he’s averaging great numbers on the worst team in the league, put him back in a good system and his numbers will skyrocket. 😂
@@denzel8827 numbers def suffering bc theres nothing to worry about when playing the Wizards except him TBH. So, if they had a star(like when he was with steph) open looks would SKYROCKET.
Curry & Fox would be a lethal duo
LMAO 🤣😂. The cope. Now you want a guard who can't hide him lol
Draymond is a liability on this team straight up. If the Warriors cared to win they would bench or let go of Draymond but hey favoritism is more important so 🤷🏽♂️.
draymond is their best defensive player
@@RayAvkD slow-mo can do it better ngl
Interesting video. I’ve always thought the warriors didn’t do a good job of developing guys but it makes sense that’s tough when everything g revolves around curry.
That kuminga breakdown was on point...😂😂😂 That's motion offense for ya
How are people blaming Dray ? He’s actually having a decent season so far , yeah there’s been some careless passes , unnecessary fouls , but that’s not new … here’s what , when fundamentally sound basketball is played your odds of winning is increased , play like it’s a youth rec league and those odds decrease exponentially… these are professional basketball players , if they can’t pull it together and play the game , what’s to say ? Sure Kerr and his mad scientist line ups are questionable.. but again these guys are professional players with enough experience to get it done … pointing fingers , screaming fire the coach and all that Jazz seems warranted but is it ? I don’t know …. A big or two would sure come in handy …. But it needs to be the right player/ players … warriors style is not exactly plug in & go … okay go easy on the font attacks I feel are coming my way .. lol be kind I’m just a mom from Jersey who loves basketball….
No team wants Draymond for 25millions a year
Draymond is the warriors Udonis Haslem. Old guy that they pretty soon will just be yapping on the bench threatening to beat up the team aka the coach’s enforcer
Brother i can tell you, i've been advocating for the office to trade Draymond since the POOLE incident. But it is what it is.
Finally someone is saying it since 2022 we have seen this happening every year we lost klay now its time to trade green and fire kerr.
Draymond gets away with fouling almost every play and has been for years he cannot defend a traditional 7 ft player if he’s not elbowing or kicking players in the nuts he is useless
Yet curry fans act like they didn't have league favor
Draymond is one of the last OGs in hoop the real fans appreciate him
Trade Draymond for John Collins and Kessler
Kerr, Steph and Dray are all a package deal at this point. You accept one you accept all. None of them can conceive of playing any other way it seems. Steph is very noticeably declining people try to deny it for years but this season it's clear as day. Not only do the stats say he's declining you watch games and you can see how old and tired he is. Not only can he not go the way he used to every game he can't even do it for a whole quarter. In individual situations he struggles to get by even minus defenders sometimes.
I know his and the team ego won't let and he's still a cash cow but they really should be trading Steph to jump start the rebuild. Fire Steve trade Donkey and start drafting a rebuilding give J, TJD and Mood all the runway they want in a simple modern system.
Even 2016 regular Steph can't win in this league. It's too exhausting w all this depth. Karma caught up bc that's what everyone playing GS felt. Team was too fast deep amd def hounds amd switching perfectly and team contests. He needs prime GS and himself to be in his prime again
Tough days. Stay strong out there brothers!
This is the most perceptive channel on the platform. Really glad I found it. Immediate subscribe.
I would have loved for this team to embrace a 2-man game w/ Steph and Draymond that was more spiritual. Where Draymond can anchor a defensive lineup with the young guys while Steph anchors an offensive lineup with the young guys. But playing them at the same time is overkill at this point
Different insight never thought of that. Schroeder was brought to change up their style. Instead he seems to just conform to their style
Because Steph is Draymond made and struggles without him. Not to mention he initiates half their offense
Except Steph doesn’t struggle without Draymond. Draymond struggles without Steph, but the reverse isn’t true.
@ u just lied to convince yourself. Look at the numbers it’s free pal
@@4ktkaram395you lied they just played Minnesota without Dray Steph had 30 and 10 double double he averages more assist and is more aggressive without draymond you fool
lmao "struggles without him" is an insane comment.
@@BruceWayne-ck2yybut they both need each other draymond know how to hide curry on defense and how to find curry it make his life easier they help each other and is y’all best defender y’all team ain’t good so the dou ain’t looking good even curry had 2 points in one game
Thank you so much for this. I've been screaming these points to the fanbase that have been killing jk and podz.
It's not Draymond's fault but Kerr's fault for empowering Draymond so much in the system. Having an offensive PF, paired with a defensive big, would be huge. Kessler and Collins fit that bill.
I agree with the general premise of the video about Draymond's importance (or lack of) at this stage of his career. Idk if the right solution is giving the ball to Kuminga and letting him play free. He struggles creating offense for himself in the half court and is a below average passer
i hope draymond not playing today to see what is up
He's not playing today steph isn't playing also. See wha0t the young bucks can do! I'm actually excited to see! 🤞
Exactly what I’ve been saying for a few years now. Great break down. I’m interested in seeing TJD next to a stretch true five. That would be killer!!!
They keep him because he is cool with Steph
The only "connector" GSW needs is steph they should've traded dray after that JP incident
3:48 what's hilarious is this applies to jamal murray as well lol
But he played good in the Christmas game and he is y’all best defender if y’all bench him y’all defense will be worse and other than draymond who is a willing passer he still got something left in the tank yall just need another scorer start curry get Zach Lavine ball trade Wiggins podestry kuminga . The knew line up is curry lonzo Zach Lavine draymond tdj
Interesting how fans and TH-camrs were talking about GS the first 2 months of the season. Warriors are slowly fading away.
I just said something similar in warriors chat among friends. The starting front court should be TJD, Kuminga, Wiggins. The game today (27 December 2024) Kuminga and TJD almost brought them back from a 20pt deficit.
Most Warriors fans believe Steph is a top 5 player of all time. Doesn’t that argument fall apart if Steph has to be tethered to Draymond for success?
A guy that cannot score, shoot and is no threat to the defense is not the key to anyone's offensive success
@@MrAtsnamso him having a DPOY means nothing? Lmao
Name another top 5 or 10 player who doesn't have another HoF teammate
Magic would be Magic without Worthy. MJ would be MJ without Pippen. Kobe would be Kobe without Shaq. Steph will still be Steph without Draymond.
All of the top 5 players are tethered to other greats. Jordan never won without Pippen, Kareem had Magic and Oscar, LeBron has changed teams 4 times for his 4 rings, and so on. Team games need teammates.
Imo ,there's one thing about Draymond that you Aren't taking in account .I think the Warriors understand Draymonds Value ..the thing with Draymond is ,He isn't as valuable to the other teams in the league as he is when he's on the Warriors .No team on the league needs him and for the few teams that could use him they aren't going to be willing to give up Valuable pieces to get him
I’ve been saying this for a long time. You’ve said it perfectly. Plus Steph don’t need Draymond-at all. On top of all that you said from an X’s and O’s perspective, Draymond doesn’t deserve to get a chance to win a 5th with Curry because of all the nonsense that has cost the Warriors games, playoff seedings, shot creators, and ultimately a championship.
He actually does. He'll need a similar guy
I do think draymond is a huge part of the problem. That motion offense only gets ran this much now is because Dray is useless in any other system
1:20 bro I've been saying this forever. If you continue to go in on Curry and then GS im subscribed and watching every video. This entire tangent you completely nailed it and now context than anyone else I've seen. He's no joker and they give him the same LeBron narrative of everyone wants to play w him lol. It was prime GS and kerr system not Steph
5:02 that was contract situation and jealousy bc those guys were highlight menaces
Why is Dray the scapegoat for Kerr? The problem is not when Steph and Dray are on the floor. It's the in-game adjustments.
It's both! The 2 man game between steph and dray is soo predictable now! It also often turn-over prone. It sucks the life out of the other players on the floor - they just ball watching.
I salute u bro great breakdown, subscribed
This team will never win another championship with Draymond.
Just from my observation, I think is on the court for the simple fact that he makes Steph’s job easier. I think when Draymond is on the court, Steph has more freedom to move without the ball and run off screens. When Draymond is not on the court, Steph has to try to create his own shot which wears him down. I agree with everything you say about Draymond though. This biggest issue is that this team keeps declining because the team will not move away from the 2-man game if Steph and Draymond. And I don’t think Draymond will ever leave Golden state unless forced to because he’ll get exposed anywhere else.
Problem could've been solved had they drafted LaMelo or Haliburton like I wanted the dubs too. Would've allowed steph to age timelessly with less wear and tear, and you'd have your star of the future.
@ you heard what the dude said on how Draymond don’t like other shot creators because he becomes less involved in the offense. It’s why he ran KD and Poole outta town.
The GSW play the way they do for the sake of Steph Curry, not Draymond.
This
Exactly green is more lethal than prime tucker in corner now lol. It's all Steph 🤣🤣
Ima be real I agree but I also disagree. There’s no way I could sit up here and say the main reason we’re struggling is because draymond and Steph are taking over the offense where Steph has had multiple games where he shoots under 10 shots this season the problem has been that Steph hasn’t been involved to start off games where draymond has the ball in his hands all the time. I encourage people to really rewatch these games. In that Indiana game Steph didn’t even shoot the ball that first quarter and had a total of 3 shots taken by the 3rd😭 I don’t think it’s the both of them dominating the offense rather just too much draymond dominating the ball. Also I really don’t think we’d be having as much issues if Steve would just smarten up and play some bigger lineups. And stop with this overuse of motion offense but we know he won’t so he has to go. Draymond genuinely is a liability on offense but his defense is still good (if he actually tries) so idk but I wouldn’t be mad if we traded him for some good pieces.
I was punching the air when they traded Poole, I thought it should have been Draymond. They would’ve kept Poole, Klay, Curry and use the bigs they have now like looney and TJD. They wouldn’t be struggling now if Poole was handling the ball along with Curry
Poole was in a place he needed to get out of there for his own good, regardless. So, they really need to get rid of both.
@ how so? He’s not playing as good as he did when he was playing for the warriors. Not to mention the difficulty of the shots he was taking and making was higher. Just one not both
It's simple man. Send over herbert and trey and take Draymond 😂
Draymond was a Non-Fcator in 2022, he had only 1-2 games in the PO's but he was bad.
He did a great job guarding jokic which was their biggest threat.
He's their toughness cause Curry n Dem are soft. Every championship team has an enforcer
@@sambo416facts and he did a good job orchestrating the defense in general vs the Celtic and mavs
@@sambo416yeah joker had to play gs and lose before beating them bc dray defense is so unique
We could probably get Domantis Sabonis for Dray
Dray and what else
@@DemonKingBadger Id love to move Podz, and Loon at the same time
Honestly you guys are pathetic. This coping is just annoying ATP
Because unlike LeBron, Kobe, Michael etc, Steph is too loyal to sell his boy out
But he sold out klay….
@@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24this bum disrespected 3 guys clearly superior to Steph to lie lol. They didn't want kove w shaq anyway lol
Curry and dray doesn’t work anymore
6:10 he’s a Richard
Im a warriors fan and ive been done with this Cat for time. Hes an overbearing presence vocally and energy wise, and hes turnover prone as well. The defense he provides and all the hype it gets is overrated for me, because so many of the other things he does, at a 25m price point, under the new CBA, is basically a black hole for the team. The roster construction is so flawed, the coaching and system is archaic and outdated, and Steph just goes along to get along, not really exercising any type of power or voice that he could wield to put a stop to all this nonsense. If you really unpack Draymonds blunders historically, 2016, 73-9 season, finals suspension cost us a chip. Durant leaving for sure had something to do with DeDe running his mouth. Poole we lost because of Dray, and last season his WWE moves and 27 games missed for suspension for sure cost us at least 7-10 wins. Hes basically a Cancer when you unpack it fully.
First 2 sentences apply to Curry lol
Warriors should of traded draymond instead of Poole
Draymond is obsolete. Most overrated contemporary player.
PREACH FACTS!!!!!!
He is traitor
Basically this is a hater post
nO IT'S KERR
Both
Factz
well stated. thanks!