Koil back on the scene , CGs meeting with Koil and Buddah is already looking like a W for NoPixel. Current state of PD/DoJ being judge, jury and executioner plus 4 Major issues have had changes implement or incoming over the next few weeks.. CG tanking the hatred for the betterment of the criminal roleplay and longevity of NoPixel.
W CRANE FOR THIS I HOPE CRANE WILL HOLD TRUE TO HIS WORD THAT IF CG THE BOYS COME TO HIM WITH A PROBLEM THAT HAPPENED WITH JUST NAMES TIMES AND WHAT HAPPENED AND HE WILL TRY HIS BEST TO RESOLVE IT AND HOPEFULLY MAX WILL KEEP THE PD IN LINE AS COMMISH LIKE HE TOLD K HE WOULD SO LETS SEE WHAT WE GOT IN STORE CG STANDING ON BIDNESSSS
crane doesn't hate CG the law was only for cv and cop's now it was fixed to care ooc about the crim in every new law because the were rping that crim were bad and pushing every rule to be against the crims
@@cheesys8706 Since some people are going to conflate IC with OOC, I'll say this for the weirdos, I'm talking about MR K IN THE CITY - IN CHARACTER - when I say this: His perspective about Crane was 100% right, IC. Everything K has experienced in the city since coming back from Guatemala has been negatively impacted by Crane, or at least that's what was told to him. Crane was to blame for his business being denied, Crane was blamed by Max, Siobhan and others for certain decisions that affected him over the course of the last few months, and Crane was pointed at regarding city laws that changed and affected Ramee, K and the rest of the crims in the city. HE ABSOLUTELY, WITHOUT A DOUBT, IN CHARACTER, has been placed as the SOLE CAUSE of WHY the city is in the state that it is. I get it, there are things that are OOC impossible for him to do, like the businesses, and he even said it during their conversation. However, K approaches everything from an in-character POV until he can't any further, which is how it should be. So when Crane says "there's announcements, and people are told when things happen" when he's actually referring to Discord posts, that's why K doesn't know, because he likely doesn't look at it. K has said repeatedly for years, he doesn't look at anything regarding GTARP after his stream ends. So yes, his negative impression of Crane is COMPLETELY accurate and makes sense.
Ruby got so offended when mr K was telling her literally the same thing crane is saying, I like Ruby ( assistant chief ) but her saying they should be able to call a lawyer to “confirm” their charges is pretty disappointing
@Magictonay they should be going through chain of command before seeking a lawyer, primarily because there's no d.a or prosecutors established in the city.. so go through to Sergeant then Captain or Sherriff, then commissioner..
Ppl saying “ W “ Crane, right? Ok sure , but it’ll only be a real W IF and when things actually start to change and be a bit more balanced. Sooo don’t hold your breath …
Koil clearly had a talk ooc with both Moon and Crane, the attitude shift in the last week is more the proof... probably told them if you wanna keep your spot, fix your shit
Crane has always been a good one but like K said I think he was just disconnected to what’s been going on this time around on his high horse to much sometimes even
A man going down the wrong path doesn't make him a bad man. He just may not know it and needs to be told. Crane was going down the wrong path thinking it was right. He didn't have perspective nor the full scope of established actions. He has said himself that he/character is a stubborn person so unfortunately it takes a lot to skew his thoughts. It's why I think this arc was cool. They got a old stubborn man to see and understand another perspective which is leading to changes.
If he was the one deciding most of those extremely harsh laws it was a very risky position to take even for an rp character because it gets to a point where if your rp is negatively effecting someone else's to the point where they cannot play it shouldn't be allowed. its borderline power-gaming and a very slippery slope but i also heard it wasn't him actually deciding for those law changes and couldve possibly been the state not 100% sure though.
Yeah but he also chose not to be more in touch with the people and chose not to actually work sanny or anything to figure out how things really are with his own eyes. They had to kidnap him and interrogate him in order to get here. Let’s not act like he’s all innocent “oh he just didn’t know”
Yeah but he also chose not to be more in touch with the people and chose not to actually work sanny or anything to figure out how things really are with his own eyes. They had to kidnap him and interrogate him in order to get here. Let’s not act like he’s all innocent “oh he just didn’t know”
I understand why cops call judges, they don’t want any mistakes, as if there’s mistakes, it will make them look like terrible cops, Buts it’s RP, Give the defending lawyers or crims a chance to fight their case, When you already got a judge’s opinion, there isn’t really point of going to court,
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Crane ain't a villain, CG haven't been able to get a good time to talk to him. He isn't the most accessible character, because he's a bit of a reclusive idiot.
Also nobody from CG has ever really talked to him about there grievances until now. Kinda unfair to just expect Nathan to watch Mr.Ks stream to hear his take.
He's Head of DoJ. The buck stops with him. Even now he's tellings cops to stop asking judges about charges when all he needs to do is instruct every single judge (as Head of DoJ) to no longer talk to the cops about charges or they'll be suspended and repeated offenses will have them removed.
Everyone wants to blame crane but them holding him hostage made it obvious that nothing was brought to him, it was just supposed to be fixed by him magically.
every time a cop goes to a judge mid interrogation it should give the person a chance to challenge the court after. it turns it into chinese court but with less organ harvesting
Truth is everything in no pixel could be fixed with OOC meetings but the only meetings that ever happen is private PD meetings. It also dont help that K wont ever attend many meetings or go on things like Blau podcast to share his feelings. Most people arnt opening K streamers to see concerns and make changes Kebun and CG need to actually be going to these people and discussing changes. Doing it in character is always awkward or hard to find the way of it making sense.
Not enough judges for that, not the PD's place to talk directly to judge anyways... you'll never see them jumping that many steps in real life, they have lawyers for a reason, keep one on retainer to interpret the law. Why would a judge conflict himself and tell them how to do their job.... ignorance of the law isn't an excuse for crims, why is it for the pd that are supposed to know it?
And then the cases never get presided on and since this is a guilty until innocent server (it is, you're given a fine and time and then you have to prove your innocent to get your fine back, but you never get compensated for your false imprisonment time), people will just always lose. What they should do is simple, cops and defense lawyers should not be able to talk to Judges about active cases. Right now lawyers don't (in fact what you see more often is criminals like Ramee talking to judges and those judges proceeding to tell cops what was talked about so it can be used as an admission of guilt), but cops are literally cheating by talking to judges about case BEFORE the case so they can win the case. It's BS.
The real question is will Mr K and CG start acting right after they found out they have been acting like a bunch of dumb asses by not following the correct process either... Because if they never do then they can't say that process doesn't work because it's literally NEVER been used even once...
Was funny af to me that 3 different criminal orgs were all like " da feck is that?" when crane / max mentioned the civilian oversight board. Literally clueless to its existence. Then you have cop chatters focusing in on max / crane saying it has never been used. Crim: We have an oversight board? Since when? Max/Crane: For months but no one has used it Cop chatter: Crims can't read! lmao would appear to me an obvious reason people haven't used the oversight board is they literally had no idea it was available. I mean its not like the PD would recommend to civs to approach it XD
Respect to crane for this 💯
Give credit where credit is due
Koil back on the scene , CGs meeting with Koil and Buddah is already looking like a W for NoPixel. Current state of PD/DoJ being judge, jury and executioner plus 4 Major issues have had changes implement or incoming over the next few weeks.. CG tanking the hatred for the betterment of the criminal roleplay and longevity of NoPixel.
Lack of communication makes something outta nothing.
@@MSJV You'd think staff would have weekly meetings to discuss the direction of the server.
@@MandoMTL you'd think they would be competent after all these years
@@The1astGuardian Right to the jugular. xD
@@MandoMTL a literal preschool is run better than NP at times
Great to see, but like Crane said if they don’t bring it up to him he don’t know
Yeah but crane as Chief Justice doesn’t go out his way to really find out either
Crane isn't exactly that accessible
Thank you crane
W CRANE FOR THIS I HOPE CRANE WILL HOLD TRUE TO HIS WORD THAT IF CG THE BOYS COME TO HIM WITH A PROBLEM THAT HAPPENED WITH JUST NAMES TIMES AND WHAT HAPPENED AND HE WILL TRY HIS BEST TO RESOLVE IT AND HOPEFULLY MAX WILL KEEP THE PD IN LINE AS COMMISH LIKE HE TOLD K HE WOULD SO LETS SEE WHAT WE GOT IN STORE CG STANDING ON BIDNESSSS
i hope he talks to the judges too and tells them to stop yapping to cops aswell, judges go down to mrpd way too much, gatsby and adams specifically
Actions
There is so many problems if the term " judge shopping" is brought up....😂😂😂
Astronomically rare crane W
Aint no way out of everyone still Crane, previous cg villian, is the only one taking proper action.
crane doesn't hate CG the law was only for cv and cop's now it was fixed to care ooc about the crim in every new law because the were rping that crim were bad and pushing every rule to be against the crims
I’ve always thought Mr. K’s negative impression of Crane isn’t right. At least this Crane in 4.0 seems fairly reasonable.
This comes from Mayor Max. He talked to Crane and now Crane talks to the PD
@@QualeQualeson Doubt.
@@cheesys8706 Since some people are going to conflate IC with OOC, I'll say this for the weirdos, I'm talking about MR K IN THE CITY - IN CHARACTER - when I say this:
His perspective about Crane was 100% right, IC. Everything K has experienced in the city since coming back from Guatemala has been negatively impacted by Crane, or at least that's what was told to him. Crane was to blame for his business being denied, Crane was blamed by Max, Siobhan and others for certain decisions that affected him over the course of the last few months, and Crane was pointed at regarding city laws that changed and affected Ramee, K and the rest of the crims in the city. HE ABSOLUTELY, WITHOUT A DOUBT, IN CHARACTER, has been placed as the SOLE CAUSE of WHY the city is in the state that it is.
I get it, there are things that are OOC impossible for him to do, like the businesses, and he even said it during their conversation. However, K approaches everything from an in-character POV until he can't any further, which is how it should be. So when Crane says "there's announcements, and people are told when things happen" when he's actually referring to Discord posts, that's why K doesn't know, because he likely doesn't look at it. K has said repeatedly for years, he doesn't look at anything regarding GTARP after his stream ends.
So yes, his negative impression of Crane is COMPLETELY accurate and makes sense.
W crane
Ruby got so offended when mr K was telling her literally the same thing crane is saying, I like Ruby ( assistant chief ) but her saying they should be able to call a lawyer to “confirm” their charges is pretty disappointing
Reason #1 why Beric was chosen as head of PD
Lawyer, maybe? Judge should be a no no.
@Magictonay they should be going through chain of command before seeking a lawyer, primarily because there's no d.a or prosecutors established in the city.. so go through to Sergeant then Captain or Sherriff, then commissioner..
@@MrHianga I say shift supervisor at most
@@tylerward5839 maybe I should have put "etc" so EVERYONE gets the picture
McNulty is one of them, he has done it a few times.
Hell even assistant chief has done it
It's become SOP at this point.
He does it every time there is a big case.
@@MandoMTL lol pretty much
@@Kerr36 Honestly i bet 90% of the PD does it and some are worse then others like HC cops.
Ppl saying “ W “ Crane, right? Ok sure , but it’ll only be a real W IF and when things actually start to change and be a bit more balanced. Sooo don’t hold your breath …
cg just gotta give a update if shit doesnt change, minus the torture
Koil clearly had a talk ooc with both Moon and Crane, the attitude shift in the last week is more the proof... probably told them if you wanna keep your spot, fix your shit
CG really are the beta testers for crime in this server.
Crane has always been a good one but like K said I think he was just disconnected to what’s been going on this time around on his high horse to much sometimes even
A man going down the wrong path doesn't make him a bad man. He just may not know it and needs to be told. Crane was going down the wrong path thinking it was right. He didn't have perspective nor the full scope of established actions. He has said himself that he/character is a stubborn person so unfortunately it takes a lot to skew his thoughts. It's why I think this arc was cool. They got a old stubborn man to see and understand another perspective which is leading to changes.
If he was the one deciding most of those extremely harsh laws it was a very risky position to take even for an rp character because it gets to a point where if your rp is negatively effecting someone else's to the point where they cannot play it shouldn't be allowed. its borderline power-gaming and a very slippery slope but i also heard it wasn't him actually deciding for those law changes and couldve possibly been the state not 100% sure though.
Yeah but he also chose not to be more in touch with the people and chose not to actually work sanny or anything to figure out how things really are with his own eyes. They had to kidnap him and interrogate him in order to get here. Let’s not act like he’s all innocent “oh he just didn’t know”
Yeah but he also chose not to be more in touch with the people and chose not to actually work sanny or anything to figure out how things really are with his own eyes. They had to kidnap him and interrogate him in order to get here. Let’s not act like he’s all innocent “oh he just didn’t know”
its obvious ooc talks happened. cause suddenly max and crane is half way on board for server health
I understand why cops call judges, they don’t want any mistakes, as if there’s mistakes, it will make them look like terrible cops, Buts it’s RP, Give the defending lawyers or crims a chance to fight their case, When you already got a judge’s opinion, there isn’t really point of going to court,
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:14 *🔄 Feedback aligns with personal experiences, indicating recurring issues.*
00:27 *🍃 Overreliance on low-hanging fruit is becoming evident.*
00:54 *🧑⚖️ Judges often called for input and guidance, sometimes mid-case.*
01:06 *📞 Attorneys and PDs seek judges' advice during proceedings, affecting fairness.*
01:21 *🚫 Need to rely on training and experience, avoiding shortcuts.*
01:49 *🔍 Concerns about seeking judges' answers pre-trial instead of trusting their own judgment.*
02:04 *📝 Officers should charge based on what they can defend in court, not pre-determined outcomes.*
02:33 *🤔 Some officers look for "answers to the test" instead of putting in effort.*
02:47 *⚖️ Pre-determined charges undermine the judicial process.*
03:02 *📢 Communication about setting better boundaries for the process.*
03:17 *📚 Judges are available for general questions or education outside specific cases.*
03:44 *🧠 Officers can consult judges post-case for educational purposes.*
04:10 *🛑 Judge shopping is occurring, leading to complications in trials.*
04:25 *🚨 Distrust among officers can lead to judge shopping, affecting trial fairness.*
04:52 *🚗 Offer of a lift is declined with a humorous comment.*
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Crane ain't a villain, CG haven't been able to get a good time to talk to him. He isn't the most accessible character, because he's a bit of a reclusive idiot.
100% he talked ooc with Kebun...ain't no way...yk...He enforced exactly what Kebun was saying a few days ago.
Crane was kidnapped and these views were pressed to him by many, which is why he's taken this path with pd
Sounds like what someone would say if they were told ooc to stop the bs
Crane is just misunderstood. Every admin and dev decision is blamed on him and he has no involvement
Also nobody from CG has ever really talked to him about there grievances until now. Kinda unfair to just expect Nathan to watch Mr.Ks stream to hear his take.
He's Head of DoJ. The buck stops with him. Even now he's tellings cops to stop asking judges about charges when all he needs to do is instruct every single judge (as Head of DoJ) to no longer talk to the cops about charges or they'll be suspended and repeated offenses will have them removed.
The scenario mcnaughlty brought up is insane, it’s judge shopping for what charges to press, not even at the stage of overseeing the case
W crane
Hopefully this helps the whole “guilty until proven innocent” mentality it seems the judges have
Everyone wants to blame crane but them holding him hostage made it obvious that nothing was brought to him, it was just supposed to be fixed by him magically.
That was 3.0 problem was that PD was shii at doing their job properly. Guess PD took a short cut to call the judges in 4.0.
every time a cop goes to a judge mid interrogation it should give the person a chance to challenge the court after. it turns it into chinese court but with less organ harvesting
Truth is everything in no pixel could be fixed with OOC meetings but the only meetings that ever happen is private PD meetings. It also dont help that K wont ever attend many meetings or go on things like Blau podcast to share his feelings. Most people arnt opening K streamers to see concerns and make changes Kebun and CG need to actually be going to these people and discussing changes. Doing it in character is always awkward or hard to find the way of it making sense.
It’s not an ooc thing. They do it ic so cg makes rp out of it.
You think going on a podcast and sitting on other streamers and the server is a better idea? Wtf are you smoking.
They have, it never changes anything
K and Ramee have done and tried so many times. Do you really blame them it’s been ignored for years and always just goes right back to the way it was.
They have in the past, nothing changed, so they're not wasting their time in 4.0
If this works exactly how it should, 4.0 will be walking towards a good route.
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STOP YELLING AT ME!!
@@MrDucenukEMyour all scaring me shouting :(
All anyone would want is a fair trial with an impartial judge. So this is a Crane W
Increasingly rare Crane W
Such a power play from Crane to just shit in their toilets like that.
Better man then me. Well done Crane!
not against cg = W + subs
Why don't they simply make a law that judges can't preside in a case they've advised on? They can't keep people from talking to each other anyway.
Not enough judges for that, not the PD's place to talk directly to judge anyways... you'll never see them jumping that many steps in real life, they have lawyers for a reason, keep one on retainer to interpret the law. Why would a judge conflict himself and tell them how to do their job.... ignorance of the law isn't an excuse for crims, why is it for the pd that are supposed to know it?
And then the cases never get presided on and since this is a guilty until innocent server (it is, you're given a fine and time and then you have to prove your innocent to get your fine back, but you never get compensated for your false imprisonment time), people will just always lose.
What they should do is simple, cops and defense lawyers should not be able to talk to Judges about active cases. Right now lawyers don't (in fact what you see more often is criminals like Ramee talking to judges and those judges proceeding to tell cops what was talked about so it can be used as an admission of guilt), but cops are literally cheating by talking to judges about case BEFORE the case so they can win the case. It's BS.
Finally
Remember when Crane was Chawas lawyer?
Very rare crane W.
Wrane
Need a Crown Prosecution service like in the UK
They do have a America equivalent called us attorney I think
@@skyarsenallllin municipalities it's the district attorney, states it is the state attorney, in country the US attorney general.
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The real question is will Mr K and CG start acting right after they found out they have been acting like a bunch of dumb asses by not following the correct process either... Because if they never do then they can't say that process doesn't work because it's literally NEVER been used even once...
Was funny af to me that 3 different criminal orgs were all like " da feck is that?" when crane / max mentioned the civilian oversight board. Literally clueless to its existence. Then you have cop chatters focusing in on max / crane saying it has never been used.
Crim: We have an oversight board? Since when?
Max/Crane: For months but no one has used it
Cop chatter: Crims can't read!
lmao would appear to me an obvious reason people haven't used the oversight board is they literally had no idea it was available. I mean its not like the PD would recommend to civs to approach it XD