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Did you try the ducati sp2, sp1 and h2r, h2?
Did you try the ducati sp2v4r and h2r?
Those videos cracked me up. I took a break from your content but I'm coming back to your videos because of these Gems 😂
My friend Stumpy does it all the time running in first gear, no problems.....except that one time lol
lol
lol. If he keeps it up he won’t be able to count the number of times he’s done that on one hand. 😉
I couldn't imagine. I've heard people saying that they do this. I always thought it was a terrible idea and now you gave us proof
Some people still will too...send it to your riding group, may make some think twice.
it can't even save that much time.. so ridiculous
gore websites 📈📈
it’s common sense
As someone with a partial finger amputation, this was really hard to watch. I mean, how can you let your wheels and chain get so dirty!
TRUE! I literally had a co-worker come to me and tell me about this chain cleaning "trick". I told him to absolutely not do it that way. The VERY next time I saw him, he was bandaged up and said he should have listened. Lost the end of his thumb. Good video for people.
Exactly!!
lie .....lie just lie
You cannot cure stupid...
Even when spinning by hand you have to be careful. Like when I'm cleaning the chain at the bottom I spin the wheel in reverse, at the top I spin forward so my hand/rag/brush doesn't get sucked in.
Why do I clean top and bottom when the chain doesn't just goes around and around? Well, you don't *have* to but it's easier to clean/oil some sides of the chain from the bottom or the top, plus when you are cleaning you may push some "sludge" to the other side and it's easier to finish cleaning it off from the other direction.
at some point people just have to have some type of common sense.
I used to work at a bicycle shop and even those tiny chains/chainrings (compared to a motorcycle) can mangle your finger and break bones. A coworker almost lost his finger working on a fixie.
A guy in a motorcycle forum had this happen to him. It cut off the tips of two of his fingers. That’s an expensive lesson. At least he admitted it, warned others, and posted pictures to try to ensure others don’t do it.
Thanks for this, that’s the cleanest chain I have ever seen. The safety reminder is good as well, I think it shows clearly that a person who cleans the chain with the engine running and in gear, will not be riding for a long time!
thanks, share it with your riding group!
Never clean. Buy oiler. Replace the chain and sprockets. Ride.
Yeah, I hate cleaning the chain, I put a scottoiler on all my bikes. I still clean the chain with a hose when I wash the bike to get any dirt and crud out but then just put the Scott oiler on priming mode and totally reoil the chain and sprockets after I hose down the chain. Doing this I don't even buy chains or sprockets anymore, the ones I have on my bike are still almost new and have 40k kms on them. I may replace the chain "just in case", but the sprockets are still good.
Late 80’s I got my first motorcycle and thought this was a great idea. Ended up getting the tip of my index and middle finger chewed off (including the nails). Took several months for the flesh to grow back. They’re now a little shorter than they should be, but at least I still have my fingers.
Yup, my son who is a Motorcycle Mechanic decided to clean a chain with the bike running. One finger is now missing the last part of it. The part that you didn't talk about is how long it takes to heal and what changes afterwards. With the shorter finger, he had to adapt to how he does various things, like starting a screw or undoing a screw. So, the implications are more than just having a shortened finger and blood where you don't want it.
But then my Grandfather was a blacksmith and was missing parts of most fingers. Heck even I managed to shove my thumb into a spinning grinding wheel and have a most unusual thumbprint now.
Oh and GREAT reaction! :)
was super gross seeing it!
That happened to me too, and is exactly all that you say with your son.
This just happened to me...currently in hospital bed and this video gets recommended to me out of nowhere.
I don't know why but your chain cleaning videos are second to NONE!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! makes me wanna clean mine right damn now!!!! Lol
That slow-mo and the look of pure unadulterated childlike look of joy on your face made this 100% worth the watch, even though I know how to clean/lube my chain and would never even think to do this.😊
Right on Greg!! That's about my routine with my dirt bikes. Of course, like you, my Super Tenere has a shaft drive like your GS!!
!!!!!!
Thanks for showing us this very convincing demonstration. Much appreciated.
Side-question: how often do you clean the front sprocket?
welcome...probably once every 3k miles or so...or if it's raining and I just feel like cleaning the entire bike.
Very good video! I've seen what rollers can do to fingers and hands. All unguarded, moving machinery needs is just something to grab, like fingers, hair, or clothing. I've seen pictures of injuries and it's shocking (one person was scalped because his hair got caught first and it kept pulling and winding in until something had to give. It's a very real danger. Excellent video, Greg!
thanks. share it!
Yeah, was told not to do that when I was a kid, learning about maintaining my bike👍
And got a GSA,so no chain cleaning duty now💯👍
You can lose fingers just hand spinning the tire if you're unlucky enough. Also you should get an air compressor to clean your chain, much quicker!
Thanks for this tutorial I’ve been asking for this earlier
welcome
You should do more bike maintenance videos, this was pretty awesome!! And a good change of pace! :)
Thanks! Will do!
I watched a video the other day where a guy cut himself so bad in the shop he needed a tourniquet to keep himself alive to get help. My co-worker had a mishap with a disc grinder the other day that put him in the ER with a huge gash in his forearm. He barely missed the vessels in his wrist. Please attend Stop the Bleed training (many “Stop the Bleed” classes are free) or watch some severe trauma response videos, and add a small trauma kit to your shop folks. Spending $50-75 now putting together a decent kit could save your life in the shop. Accidents happen when you are working with machines and power tools, or even just splitting wood. 😊. Basic kit: gauze rolls, tourniquet, chest seals (2), compression bandage (Israeli bandage), some wound clotting powder, decent emergency blanket, and trauma shears are a great start. I am a first responder and train others in emergency first aid, CPR, AED use, overdose response, etc. I keep a nice but small first response kit on every ride so I can aid other riders or myself. Stay safe y’all!
Great video as always!
thanks, share it!
As a general rule of thumb I never power anything on as I’m working on its moving parts lol. I have seen some people successfully do it but I will never take that chance.
yup
“Rule of thumb”😂
I haven’t had a bike with a chain in decades but back then I never cleaned it with the engine running. I used PJ1 to lube it. Don’t recall what I used to clean it. Too long ago.
Great video. Thanks. Already shared it.
These days, the dealerships do all my maintenance. One bike has a drive shaft and the other has a belt.
thanks
I crushed my fingers cleaning the inside of the sprocket and turning the wheel by hand, just a small movement on the wheel is more on the sprocket important thing is to be careful even when turning wheel by hand.
yup
Thanks for sharing this, really scary and shows how vulnerable our body parts are. Also special thanks for your double effort to clean up the chain twice after the safety demo😀
didn't take long at all to do...wasn't bad
This was a great video.👍
share it!
Sorry if my english is bad, isn't my native language but I will try.
I have 2 doubs, hoping someone can help me to clear my mind because in other blogs or videos I didn't get an answer, I also most say that I didn't went to my local dealership of honda to ask my doubts, I know, probably that could be the way but... I prefer to ask here, I know you all will be honest and speak from their experience, at dealerships I think sometimes they dont do that...
But first of all, I want to thank you MotoJitsu, for doing this amazing full of quality job and bring us a priceless product, I'll definitely subscribe.
Now, to not extend more my text (I could spend more trying to explain how excited I am for finding this channel)
Doubts
1.- Is it true that sportbikes in general can have issues on their engines if you drive 'em at low revs? I know they are meant to fly like a missile, but just as I saw in the video, what if some days you just want to commute with calm and tranquillity? I'm not saying I would never rip off that throttle, but the idea of "if you are not running like crazy 99% of the time with this engine, it will break down" it's chasing me.
I have read texts of some people here on youtube that are mechanics (so they say) that most ppl go back to dealership with their engines having issues because they just dont ride them on high revs so... I just don't know what to think.
2.- How is the water issue going? I mean, every motorcycle needs to be built to resist water in my opinion, choppers sportbikes enduro adventure etc, but want to ask, how careful do you have to be with the water? you can just wash any motorcycle with all these electronics without any trouble in mind? you can just drive her on the rain for hours without issues? No problems with the components or something important?
-I would really really appreciate it if someone takes the time to read and answer me, I'm the only one in my family that loves motorcycles so I have no one to lean on, also no friends here, I'm like an hermit.
Blessings to all!.
Getting a new bike soon. Older rider, used to ride years ago. Truly appreciate your videos, I have learned a ton of info.
Like your common sense approach!
Good guide!
I personally use drylube for my chain it gets less dirty. Do far i have done 37.000 km with this chain and sprocket. At first i was afraid the chain would not last as long with the drylube but so far its doing very well and i only have had to clean the chain 2x. I dont ride a lot in bad weather but even then it dirt does not attach easily
I was told by a long-time mechanic that the chain will last longer if you don't use cleaner or a brush and just use the lube. Much easier on the rings both chemically and mechanically, and he said the lube + natural rubbing during riding get all the dirt out of the important places. Said now his chains last twice as long.
I only turn my bike on to apply the chain lube (thankfully the can has an attachment so I can spray from a distance while the nozzle is very close to the chain)
If I had to use the close -up nozzle I'd NEVER turn on the bike. I'd rather continue riding with all my fingers intact.
Do you use a new rag every time, and what do you do with spent rags? Any advice for cleaning the rest of the bike? I’ve been wondering about better/best ways to detail my bike so I don’t scratch it with debris in the microfiber.
I clean them usually.
I clean the rest of the bike with the same spray
Love these “dad” style videos. Like your dad is teaching you how to do something simple but important that you’ll remember for your whole life :)
hopefully!
Oh my god, I have never heard of somebody cleaning the chain with the engine on but it sounds mental.
If someone can’t figure this out, maybe they shouldn’t be on a bike, common sense is not an option.😮
read the comments
@@MotoJitsu😂👍🏻
Hahahahah your reaction is hilarious!
I was imagining my hand getting caught and how much that would suck
Even cleaning the chain will hurt. I made the mistake of getting my thumb in the sprocket. It put a nice blood spot under my nail. I remember to not turn it that direction anymore...lol. the only thing I have is the front sprocket area accumulates a lot of road grime that I can't get out without taking the cover off that is part of the oil reservoir. That's a bad manufacturer design.
The look of excitement when about to do and look of schock while happening was great.
lol thanks
Aged 15, I put a hole in my thumb nail whilst working on a moped. It wasn’t even running - just the back wheel spinning freely but I got caught. Lots of pain and blood but no lasting damage. I was lucky and learned my lesson
lovely video; the thing I liked most is how much you enjoyed doing it. Keep it up
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi. Thanks for the video. What about the breaks cleaning?
Thank You.
You're welcome
I have never done, nor will i ever do, this type of thing because i know how rotating equipment and torque vs puny human bones works. Watching this vid just solidified that in my mind lol. Your reaction was priceless. Stay safe everyone.
smart
Shouldn't shift from neutral without the clutch, it damages the dog gears in the gearbox. Solid safety advice video though
That hurt me inside also.
Hey Moto, check this out. When I was in high school, circa 1978-79, one of the local guys was cleaning his sprocket on his KZ200. He made the mewspaper, he was cleaning the sprocket with the bike running. Luckily a KZ200 didn't have enough torque to rip his entire hand or arm off, but he did have to have the fire department come and extricate his dumb self and his hand from being wrapped under the chain I don't believe he lost any fingers, but I believe a couple were looking the wrong way. Are you reading this, Kenny? If you are, come and tell the tale. Adios Moto
Hello, thanks for all the content. I am trying to buy your app from Turkey, yet there seems to be some kinda country restriction for purchasing it on Google Play. Can you somehow make it available to buy from here as well? Thank you!
It may be in your area
heard change the rear sprocket tooth up 1 or 2 teeth makes it more fun !
my bike is fun enough as is
Thanks for sharing this bro.my dream bike.from Philippines here
Really good advice. Better advice us to stop doing it altogether and chuck that nasty, unnecessary, spray grease in the trash.
real story, one of my friend got his finger cut off last month because he's wiping his chain with a piece of cloth while the bike is on a stand and running in 1st gear because he is a big lazy ass guy.
he's wiping his CBR150R chain from below, the cloth got pulled in by the sprocket, lazy boy took 3 business days to react but nahh it was too late, took half of his finger off and thats it.
it sounds like i hate him, i do, but not because of this accident, it was because of what he did to many of us back then that was unrelated to this, served him right if you ask me.
edit:
pro tip, at least for me: set the bike on a stand, dip the toothbrush into a diesel fuel (or kerosene, but to me diesel fuel is softer and cheaper), brush the whole chain all 4 sides and the sprockets too with it, spray them with hose pressure level (not too high to sip pass the rings and not too low to not strong enough to washes off the dirt from the chain), to dry it ill just turn on the bike and set to the highest gear and rev it because the water will get flung off the chain and stop until there's no more, set the bike into 1st, spray the chain lube till (for me) 4 passes for each side (aim at the rings not the rollers), rev it again till the excess lube flung off until there's no more and stop.
it'll create a mess, so i recommend getting a wipe ready or covering it with a cardboard. I'll just do it outside with a paddock stand.
Lesson learned
I once pinched a finger between the chain and sprocket on a bicycle due to carelessness/idiocy (I was turning the sprocket by the teeth).No way I’d EVER put any body part inside the chain run while the wheel is turning under power.
So glad I'm on a GS now and never have to do this
Great explanations on How To properly clean your chain, i'd also add a little clean on the brake disc with brake cleaner, because when you spray the chainlube it forms a cloud of small particules, and as you saw, these particules will drop and deposit on the rim but not only the rim, also the brake disc gets a little coat of chain lube, and lube on brakes isn't a good idea lol, so i like to personnally always scrub my brakes with a clean towel and a bit of brake cleaner. Costs nothing and will probably avoid you going into a wall or a car on the first turn down your house.
One of my best friends lost half his thumb because of this "idiotic" technique... Another awesome video !!!
Cheers !!!
sheesh
Do you throw the oily microfibers in the wash or do you throw them out? Not sure if they would ruin a washer or not.
depends on how dirty they get...usually last a while, use same rag for numerous cleanings...but I don't use the chain rag on the rest of the bike..maybe I use it for the rims too
I also often clean the rotors when doing the chain, as oil from sprayuing the chain may get onto them (also because cleaning them takes couple minutes)
What do you think about using water/ hose to rinse the chain after you clean, then lube?
I accidentally had this happened to me when i was around 6 years old on dirt bike, my neighbor rode me on back his bike, well he went down a really steep dirt hill i didn't realize he was going to be going down hill , i couldn't see much in front of me, well I fell of an my hand somehow ended up going around sprocket and chain, his chain came off and all, my hand was torn up pretty good, my dad was pissed,
Well about year so later that neighbor went to prison for killing his girlfriend! Crazy fckr!
I always rotate the chain towards the little sprocket, thus I have more chain length to clean, and my fingers aren't that close to the big sprocket. I also clean the upper rail on which the chain slides.
There is not point lube it centre? Only the side of the chain. Dou clean between chain to? Imside of the chaim
Done this many years ago... Ripped my thumbnail clean off and had a ton of stitches in my thumb, and a broken bone 🤘
Luckily my nail regrew and I didn't lose a finger.
With that much work, it's a shame to ride and dirty the chain again !
Happened to me as a 6 month old. Sprocket cut off my index finger from top, someone's bike, dad rushed me to the hospital and had it reattached. My finger is fine today but yeah if I was a little late to the hospital, it was a goner.
Handy be riding a DCT from now on!!!
OMG, your reaction in slow motion was your funniest video ever!🤣
hahahahaha
See!! Now that's the kind of carnage I wanted to see in the last video!!! 😂
carnage!
I've been using WD 40 for cleaning the wheels for years. It works great.
Of course, absolutely do not try to clean your chain with the bike in gear and running. However, if you have just washed your bike and want to get some of the water out from between the rollers so you can lube the chain, it is quite easy to just put the bike in gear and let it idle to fling the water out from the chain. You could also go for a quick ride, or if you have an air compressor you can use that, but if you're impatient and poor like me, chucking it in gear and flicking the water out with the rotation of the back wheel is pretty easy.
Gear oil works the best for cleaning & lubing your chain at the same time. Fortnine did a video testing different chain lubes and gear oil won.
use whatever you wish, just don't turn the engine on
My best friend lost about 3/8 in from the tip of his middle finger cleaning the chain with the bike running😢
It was pretty bad but could have been much worse.
He was planning a 13hr trip on his ninja 250 and tuning up the bike was his last thing before leaving. After the chain incident he ended up not going.
I always wondered if God was looking out for him in a mysterious way as he might have gotten hurt worse driving that little bike across the country.
ouch
You are always there to help beginners ❤
Glad to hear that
lol he has to clean it again
Can't believe there's actually people who need/should watch this lol. Good video tho 👌🏻
a lottttttt....way more than you think and people have already emailed me saying they'll never do this again
What about putting the oil back on the chain, im so obsessed about getting oil on the brake pad and wheel, am i being silly, is the way your doing it alright.
Once i caught my fingers between the chain and sprocket with the bike OFF, while turning it by hand. It sucked and was a friendly reminder to NEVER clean the chain with the bike on!
ouch
I usually spray mine with silicone and wipe clean. O-ring chain.
I cut a piece of cardboard to slide behind the sprocket and chain, to keep the sprays from hitting the brake disc on the other side of the wheel. Cut a close C shape notch in your cardboard.
Definitely recommend lubing the sides of the chain. I used to not do that either, as it's technically speaking not necessarily. BUT, the most important job for lube, is rust prevention. And i had Lots of rust on the sides of the chain until I started lubing the whole chain.
i use wd40 after it rains (and ive ridden through it) and no rust anymore. i used to clean and lube and i got rust. maybe it wasnt the best lube but the wd40 does a great job.
@@peterkeleher WD40 is also a solvent. It will eat up your O/X/Z-Rings. Be careful not to hit the inside of the chain.
@@Roy_Godiksen a prominent motorbike youtuber did a video on this; wd40 does nothing to the rings or their seals.
@peterkeleher Just a fair warning. Lot's of tests and professionals warn against it. WD40 is designed to desolve, and rubber is one of the things it desolves. Watch people doing the baloon test. You can pop balloons in seconds with WD40.
I'm lazy. I just keep it lubed with gear oil. Give it a good soaking after a ride. Wipe of excess the next day. Ride on.
Do you have a link to purchase the pink spray you use to clean the bike? Thanks!
no, just look it up
I’ve used the cycle spirits for years, best stuff made, u til they raised the price from 7$ to 17$ during Covid. Really disappointing, off to using meguiar’s quick wax.
Epic video wow
thanks
How often do you clean it? Also my GSX-R manuql says not to use those spray lubes... Only use heavy motor oil
every 800-1000 miles or something like that
@@MotoJitsu thanks
Did you try the ducati sp2v4rand h2r?
Try this method. Before you spray anything on the chain; run the chain brush and a clean rag over it first. It will knock off half the dirt before you turn it into mud with the cleaner. It actually takes less time, rags, and cleaner to use this method. Fluid Film (lanolin) is the best chain lube i have ever used and it seems to repel dirt vs attract it.
p.s. somebody posted a video in the last day or two of their bandaged hand from trying to clean a running chain. LOL
whatever works
Just wondering, is a foam cannon clean not enough for the chain if you do it regularly? Or is that bad for the chain?
Never used it
does using the brush once a week reduced the o-rings/x-rings longevity? heard a lot of my buddies said it that way but not sure if its true
does it matter? you can not ride and make the tires last longer too.
@@MotoJitsu thanks!
@@MalayaRider you don't need to use a brush. When your chain gets dirty, lightly spray it with some cleaner, wipe with a rag, and apply a bit of lube. I put huge miles on my bike and easily get 20K+ out of chains and sprockets without any of this excessive scrubbing. A high quality o-ring chain needs very little maintenance
@@luisdetomaso867 yeah i started to do it this way now cause my last chain didnt last very long cause i kept scrubbing it and i was told that it affects the o-rings. just changed to a DID x-ring and gonna take a better care of it haha thanks btw
I do my chain every 3 days/a long day of riding. Mainly because I finally have one of my dream bikes 😅 it’s pretty much always showroom clean.
Thats how i almost lost my thumb last summer, my luck was that i had removed the chain guard so my hand didnt get caught up in it, the image of my thumb slowly passing through the sprocket are now forever burnt in my memory serving has a reminder (the rear wheel spinned way slower in gear than the one in the video), somehow i felt absolutly nothing so it made it really wierd in the moment and i was unsure what had exacly happened.
Thankfully this happened on a chinese 125 and the chain streched (from 20mm of chain slack to 70mm) so my thumb was only bitten and a bit broken at the joint, but it made a decent recovery, still hurts a bit to this day.
Never stick your fingers in moving parts.
I'm dipping the scrubber in the Diesel (2 euro /L) a few times and brush the chain while letting the engine running stationary in 1st gear. After 2 minutes I take the pressure cleaner (your microfiber cloth does not clean inbetween the rollers), keep it at a distance of about 5 inches for a few minutes, cleaning the chain up, down and both sides. then I dry the chain with an old towel or shirt go dry it, and only during the drying the engine is not running. When the chain is dry I start the engine again and brush some grease on the chain. Done! Time: 6 minutes. Cost: Next to nothing. Level of chain maintenance and protection: Very high!
You don’t want to use a pressure washer on a chain. Let the hate comments come . Give me your best.
😂😂😂 your reaction was the best part! 🤮 thanks for the videos!
share it!
I can't afford to buy so many cans of spray!
One of my best friends made this mistake 40 years ago (ish) when he was a teenager. Result was that his middle finger is now about the same length as his pinky. That was the last time he cleaned a chain on a running bike, so he at least demonstrated he was a learning animal. So there's that. :-/
A BMW with a chain drive... So an S1000RR.
Will the gunk wash off from the microfiber cloth? or do I need new ones after every 1-2 sessions?
Try and see
years ago a friend of mine do this mistake and injured himself very bad when bike is running never touch below 😢 u can lost someparts of you u can buy a new bike but can't buy new arm
yup...never do it
That was worth watching, just for your reaction 😂😂
😮
Yes; but look how much extra dirt it got off