Michael Jordan invented… the DOUBLE TEAM?!

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  • @PinkYoshi-gu2fx
    @PinkYoshi-gu2fx 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    No wonder Michael scored under 20 points in that game 3. The Celtics doubled and tripled team him every time. No one gave that much attention to a single player before. That marked a new defensive era for the NBA, and I think thats what Stan Albeck was trying to say

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PinkYoshi-gu2fx bullshit. Wilt, bird and Kareem were facing multiple defenders regularly

  • @StoneGone
    @StoneGone 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I’ve seen three, and four guys , coming to try to defend Jordan. No exaggeration!

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@StoneGone I’ve seen 3-4 guys try to guard Larry Bird also

  • @Pseudog831
    @Pseudog831 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Jordan also has a stake in the illegal offense rule. After Jordan averaged 37.1 points per game in the 1987 season, the league instituted the illegal Offense rule to prevent from excessive hero ball play. It was also known as the Michael Jordan Rule. 🙂

    • @leonardjackson6210
      @leonardjackson6210 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What's illegal offense. Is it similar to the Charles Barkley rule?

    • @Pseudog831
      @Pseudog831 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@leonardjackson6210Just brought article below.
      Through the years, rule changes in basketball have often been made with a particular player in mind. George Mikan's dominating center play was responsible for widening the lane from 8 to 12 feet. When Wilt Chamberlain was piling up points, the lane was widened again, this time to its present 16 feet. While Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, then known as Lew Alcindor, was playing at U.C.L.A., the dunk shot was eliminated from the college game.
      A new N.B.A. rule this season prohibits teams from putting more than two men on the side of the court away from the ball below the top of the foul circle. A violation would result in the loss of possession.
      Almost as soon as the new rule was announced, it became known as the ''Michael Jordan Rule,'' because of Jordan's masterly one-on-one play.
      Doug Collins does not, however, think that his team's strategy should have been responsible for the rule change.
      ''We have no special play or plays that isolate Michael,'' said Collins, the Chicago Bulls' coach, before his team beat the Los Angeles Lakers, 128-114, here tonight in the annual Hall of Fame game. It was the Lakers' first loss in eight exhibition games, although they were without Earvin (Magic) Johnson (tendinitis in his left foot) and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (sinus infection).
      ''If anything, the rule might more have been directed at the Boston Celtics, when they play two-on-two with Kevin McHale and Larry Bird or Bird and Dennis Johnson,'' Collins said. ''Don Nelson used the isolation a lot in Milwaukee when he coached the Bucks and the Lakers use it with James Worthy.''
      The officials did not make any isolation calls tonight because both teams were running. Jordan scored 36 points in about 30 minutes, sitting out the entire last quarter. 'A Great Improviser'
      Dave Corzine, the Bulls' center, while agreeing the team had no specific play calling for the isolation of Jordan, said it might appear that way sometimes.
      ''It might look like he's going one-on-one and everyone else is standing around,'' Corzine said before the game. ''But that's because Michael doesn't know what he's going to do until he does it. He's a great improviser.''
      Bob Cousy, the former Boston Celtic star and Hall of Fame member, said he favored the rule, regardless of whether there was a specific player in mind.
      ''Coaches with mediocre teams, who felt they were unable to compete in the five-man game, would isolate two or three of their best players and let them play schoolyard basketball on one side of the floor,'' Cousy said. ''I guess some people are calling it the Jordan Rule because when you think of one-on-one basketball, his name immediately comes to mind.
      ''It's a good rule. I'm in favor of doing anything that would slow down scoring, The offense has gotten so far ahead of the defense that I'm afraid it will affect spectator interest.'' Bulls Plan New Style
      Last season, Jordan had to overcome the harassment of zone traps and double and triple-teaming to win the scoring title by averaging 37.1 points a game. This time, he faces new challenges not only from opposing coaches and their defenses but also from the plans of his own coach.
      Ever since the Celtics knocked the Bulls out of the playoffs last season in the opening round, Collins has been working on what he refers to as the ''Celtic theme.''
      ''Through the years,'' he said, ''Boston has proven 16 times that while one man may win a scoring title, five men win championships.''
      Pointing out that Jordan accounted for 3,041 of Chicago's 8,596 points last season, Collins said: ''Michael is the the pulse beat, the lifeblood on this team. But when he's flat, we're flat, and we want to get away from that.
      ''We're looking to become a more balanced team. We scored 124 points against Dallas the other night and Michael got 36 points and our other people got 88. That's what we have been striving for in the preseason. We're looking not to have Michael always take the big-pressure shot all the time. Instead of a set offense, we want to fast break and open the court up more. Michael is going to get his points. Even if he were to average 7 points less a game than he did last year, he probably would still win the scoring title.'' Jordan Says He'll Adjust
      For the record, at least, Jordan said he was not concerned with who was in the spotlight.
      ''It's a team sport and I can deal with it,'' he said. ''If I don't get any more attention because the other guys are getting it, I can live with that too. I'm not a greedy person. It's an adjustment, but it's something I've done in the past at North Carolina. I used to score something like 17, 18, 20 points a night and we won 85 to 90 percent of the games. I could be happy with that here.''
      But there are some who say that when Jordan walked out of a practice last Tuesday, it was not over the reported disagreement concerning a scrimmage score. Rather, Jordan is said to have been frustrated over acclimating himself to Collins's attempt to blend Jordan's obvious skills with those young players such as Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant and veterans such as Charles Oakley, John Paxson, Artis Gilmore and Corzine.
      Jordan made a public apology two days later and actually kissed Collins for the television cameras and made up.
      ''If it were not the fact that it was Michael Jordan,'' Collins said, ''nobody would have paid any attention.''
      Jordan no longer wants to talk about the incident, saying only that he does not consider himself ''an individualist'' but ''a team player who does not need all the attention.''
      The challenge will be to see if Jordan can live up to those words.

    • @jordansoviet23
      @jordansoviet23 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@leonardjackson6210different rules because Barkley posting up guys sometimes even the whole 24 second shot clock.

    • @vonholland64
      @vonholland64 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bull

  • @moldyapple1789
    @moldyapple1789 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    game was still forming in 60s/70s. 80s/90s was peak ball. now it's fallen off a bit

  • @yopyop3241
    @yopyop3241 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The illegal defense rule definitely played a part in this. These days, you send a second defender where it’s needed and zone up elsewhere. With the illegal defense rule in effect, the “zone up” part would get you punished with a technical.

  • @truthiscensored
    @truthiscensored 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    A double team is a double team...now yall changing the narrative for a double team talking about a "True Double Team"???
    First Jordan fans want to ONLY count his NBA Finals years as if the other 9 years he LOST don't count. Now they changing the definition of a Double Team. C'mon now

    • @karenb885
      @karenb885 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You saw the highlights... doubling to strip the ball, then immediately backing up so he can shoot defeats the whole purpose of the double team 😂

  • @soramirez5473
    @soramirez5473 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They were double n triple teaming Larry bird already what the hell are you talking about?

  • @bricefleckenstein9666
    @bricefleckenstein9666 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The title of this video isn't even clickbait - it's a FLAT OUT LIE.
    The double team goes WAY back before Jordan.
    Wilt got double and triple teamed A LOT.

    • @MissSunCity
      @MissSunCity 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Where's the footage? Have yet to see this triple teaming from any available highlights out there. I'll believe it when it see. I won't believe it from a person that claims he slept with 20k women. He likes to exagerate the numbers, if you know what I mean

    • @KobeFrijol
      @KobeFrijol 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I don’t believe the logic that a player can average 50 points while being doubled and tripled teamed “a lot”. That’s impossible. The only way that makes sense is the amount of possessions that were played and wilt facing weak defenses. Was he dunking on the whole team then? There’s no way, because he wasn’t that type of player. He hardly used force. You can’t have it both ways. His idea of a double team is much different than what we know today.

    • @sportstalkonly1442
      @sportstalkonly1442 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@KobeFrijoland the idea of a double team of the 90s is much different than what it is today because of zone

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MissSunCity It wasn't WILT talking about double and triple teaming.
      It was HIS OPPONENTS.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KobeFrijol Possessions WERE higher in the 1960s - and Wilt DID lead the league in FG% several times - he had a LOT more than a mere "dunk" and he frequently used the other options, like is Finger Roll, Fadeback Jumper, and such.
      I also wouldn't call Bill Russell "weak defense".
      Why do you LIE about my "have it both ways"?
      Never heard any of the stories by folks like Hondo "holding on his arm and he's make the shot ANYWAY"?

  • @jordansoviet23
    @jordansoviet23 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Defensive schemes and strategy was at its peak when Jordan ruled the league. If you got blown by by Jordan there's no switching nor the worst defensive player cannot hide from this situation.
    Now by allowing zone defense, teams can basically hide their worst defensive player whenever they can.

    • @davidc.lalnelawma4776
      @davidc.lalnelawma4776 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you can hide your worst defender, isn't that a better defensive scheme/strategy? The individual defense was peak tho

    • @foggylungs
      @foggylungs 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It just serves the purpose of playing team defense.

  • @bokc_ellis
    @bokc_ellis 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    W Michael jordan

  • @classicswagg1980
    @classicswagg1980 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great context

  • @brotherhannibal411
    @brotherhannibal411 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    U must be young. Your going by highlights? Albeck....a journeymen head coach? Dude. I watched the early 80s Lakers & Celtics trap & double team DrJ & Andrew Toney all the time.

    • @jfearless3420
      @jfearless3420 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You might have imagined it. The only way to really know is to watch every single game from the 60s to when Jordan scored 63pts to really tell. The narrator doesnt sound young unless you consider 40+ year olds young.

  • @warreno.bryant4406
    @warreno.bryant4406 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wooo remember coaches said guard your man if u need help send help as he drives make him shoot in his early yrs.other great scorer got double if they posted that why they say it was a bigman league until mike startin winning and the pistons❤

  • @618Prez
    @618Prez 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Luka scored 73 wilt is scoring 125

  • @sportstalkonly1442
    @sportstalkonly1442 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lmao zone wasn't even legal bro stop

  • @davidc.lalnelawma4776
    @davidc.lalnelawma4776 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    If they had the idea of double teams in the 60s, you know Wilt would've gotten triple teamed evey game. It was too early in the evolution of the game, ig
    Edit: ig the video has a bit of misinformation. Should've expected it with them being an overwhelming fan of a specific Goat.

    • @MarkRyabenkiy0
      @MarkRyabenkiy0 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      They did. Wilt spoke often about getting triple teamed in college and even in the nba

  • @springfieldbearpatrol2937
    @springfieldbearpatrol2937 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kareem

  • @vonholland64
    @vonholland64 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bull. Drj spent his whole career double teamed

  • @ap6160
    @ap6160 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3:00: This is also why I cannot take the pre 1970s NBA and its "records" seriously. Their stats were definitely bloated

    • @starbury4967
      @starbury4967 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think the shot before that was even worse. How can anyone seriously think the league was better at that time

  • @GaryCaskey-mj1yb
    @GaryCaskey-mj1yb 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is pretty dumb. Is it some kind of nba propaganda piece? I watched chamberlain play hundreds of times and he was routinely doubled, mostly by rotating the deepest weak side defender. The serious application of the zone rule did mean you could not commit to doubling until a player had possession of the ball.
    As for size comparisons, chamberlain was bigger than the centers from all the eras. You can find side-by -side comparisons with centers from other eras and he is bigger than them all. He is clearly a much bigger man than Shaquille O’Neil.
    As for the sophisticated contemporary defenses-well, I have not seen those yet. Still waiting.
    Oh, the size of the centers in the1960s and 1970s was exactly the same as it Is now, but I think you know that.

    • @brownboy6910
      @brownboy6910 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The supposed double teams look extremely weak. I have yet to find footage where the teams throws everything they got at him. It was nowhere near the level MJ saw and later Shaq. The fact that Stan Albeck didn't even mention Wilt speaks volumes. I would much rather see the footage for myself then trust the cloudy memories of the ex players that often exaggerate about things that happened in their era