the fact the camera angle updates makes me think this is what they had intented players to do in the first place, not killing it by ramming into the side of its jaw at mach 10
Think the same thing, with how abrupt the camera cut is with the non-upwards angles I wonder if it was an oversight and they didn't expect players to Shinespark it from other angles, or maybe just didn't have the time to program it to do the special camera angle for the other directions.
You say that like people disagree or something. Literally everyone loves Metroid Dread. It's quite literally the best metroidvania ever made. It's absolutely astonishingly good. It's easily the best game of the year, nothing else even comes close. The only people who would disagree are people who are salty they can't play it because they don't yet have a Nintendo switch. This game is even great for people who hate metroidvanias. It actually converts them to the genre because it's so well designed. It's impossible to become lost in the game, even though it doesn't tell you where to go like metroid Fusion did. It guides you subconsciously through its design.
Those camera angles when you’re about to do a notable shinespark (your first shinespark in Dairon, the shinespark kill shown in this video, etc) make it feel so much cooler.
theres actually even more details, this cutscene is even more impressive. If you look at the sideways shinespark clip and the Upward clip. His extra limbs Are on the right / Left side respectedly.... at first i was like "Hmm maybe you can predict an attack pattern here how he will place these attacks to hop over" In other clips ive seen theres no limbs at all.... So that wasn't it Turns out (just tried it)... in that attack where he chases u with that aim point earlier, if you destroy its extra limbs there, this stays persistent even with the death animation, i destroyed his top right limb and in my kill animation he indeed had only these 3 limbs. They could have just fully scripted the death animation to not have these limbs shown at all to avoid any inconsistencies... But they took care of it to keep even that battle damage persistent, and those extra limbs are actually moving in accord to how they should in this animation, the bottom one even twisting a bit as he falls over, Meaning they probly have this animated for each and every limb combination potentially / seperately just in case this happens. it's a tiny detail but depending how this type of stuff is done in the games engine & cutscenes it is a huge undertaking as that ain't just simple ragdolls, this is hand crafted.
It may be slightly more likely that they just start that animation with the extra limbs added as external parts that are animated independently the game can then dynamically hide or show certain limbs depending on battle damage without forcing their animators to ragdoll this guy 25 different times
@@GlenMerlin Unfortunately you only get the speed-booster after the third EMMI, so you only get to shinespark blue and purple, and only get to screw-attack purple.
Bro this is crazy, it's been 2 months since it's released and people are STILL finding these epic little details or big secrets. Dread has got to be GOTY.
The devs even giving damage to shinesparks in the first place signifies that they wanted people to go crazy and experiment with it on bosses (no pun intended)
They had to program the damage numbers, so yeah, of course they knew it'd be an instakill. If they didn't want people to one-shot bosses with it, then they would've just had it work like the screw attack where it does nothing to most bosses but takes out most normal enemies in one hit.
I always thought there was something to doing this for this boss since I kept trying to use my speed booster during that part thinking I needed it to navigate around with speed infused space jump! Can't wait to do this next battle!
Man, the first time I saw this cutscene, I was a bit disappointed the Core-X just fell into the lava... I wonder what powerup we could've gotten. Oh well lol
Could the ppl at mercury steam be speedrunners themselves? Cuz the level of detail they put for both the standard gameplay and the speedrunner gameplay is awesome!
There's one with Kraid where you can launch youself into his belly in morph ball form and then hurt him from inside. does tons of damage and can be triggered in the area below him with a bomb at the wall ( if that one even counts as a secret )
You can use Shinesparks on the following bosses to get a lot of damage. Escue, Robot Chozo soldiers (if you hit one of the twin ones it basically kills it). Chozo soldiers, you can destroy the Shield and get to phase 2 of the battle. The central units in Ferenia and Ghavoron you can blast off their covers, and Golzuna (that arena you can Shinespark the core X as well)
When I found out you can shine spark this guy, I did it from the bottom the first time, didn't know you could do it from the side. But once I learned about the side one I haven't been able to do it from the bottom again kinda funny if you ask me
I always manage to find convoluted solutions before the simplest one. I didn’t think I had enough time to pull off a sideways or diagonal spark. The way I did it was by charging the spark at the end of the wind attack (where you do the upward spark for the camera angle) then space boosting and bouncing off each wall, storing the spark, dodging the third claw attack then sparking during the long roar. That upward spark doesn’t trigger a camera angle.
Wanna hear something hilarious? I sequence broke and somehow ended up facing this boss WITHOUT the Space Jump or Storm Missiles. And then I was frustrated from dying like 20 times in an hour so I just started button mashing and shinesparked it to death (not even knowing that was an option).
That's tripping me out seeing his death cutscene with the extra claw limbs When I first beat it I thought it was impossible to beat it without destroying all of those because I literally ran out of missiles trying to attack this guy and Dodge every attack and I thought I was playing perfectly but it still wouldn't die because I didn't destroy all the limbs. That was before I realized you didn't have to stand still in order to lock on with storm missiles cos Idk I guess I'm slow lol But this battle CERTAINLY forces you to learn that under normal circumstances
Playing through again on hard after a bit, I was trying to make this happen but ended up killing him without managing it. Came here just to see what happens if you do it. Insta-kill feels very appropriate, that's fkn awesome 👍
GOTY? More like GOTD (Game of the Decade), the attention to detail in this game and the amount of polish this has gotten and the sheer F-ing prediction by the developers for all the scenarios where people do things that aren't in the flow of the natural playthrough... This is a straight up F U to all the games that released broken, needed patching and have other sort of unlikeliness to them that isn't expected (or worse - is). I am on my 12th playthrough already and I can't get enough of the community finding new secrets and cutscenes 2 months post the launch of the game. This is nuts....
It took me a few times to see it, because I thought it looked exactly the same too... They're referring to the dropped camera angle for the vertical shinespark, like when you launch up the long shaft elsewhere in the game. It only does that in a few specific spots. Apparently this one too.
0:38 doesn't work for me. Even full sprint my character is not moving forward. Are there multiple levels of sprint or something? It doesn't make sense. Did they patch this?
I just got this game maybe a week ago and have only beaten the first boss so please forgive my question. Is that shinespark a glitch? Cheat? Or something you unlock later in the game? Edit as of December 9th. So I just downed the underwater boss and it was a great fight. However no loot from him? Strange. @serouj This is my first metroid game since super metroid and I have forgotten everything about it.
Something you unlock later in the game. It’s a powerful ability that you can use to defeat bosses. See a tutorial on my channel and also how to use it on other bosses :)
Something you unlock later in the game. If it was a glitch, it wouldn't have been in literally every mainline game (so no Prime) after Metroid 3, the Metroid 1 remake, and Other M.
@@-jobrocodwawz-6226 I fixed that. Thanks for the correction. My point is, how can it be a glitch when 1-it reappears in many other games, and 2- Nintendo encouraged it during the pre-released advertising
No, not supposed. Just a more overpowered and quicker way to do it. The most intended way was to shoot him through his phases and everytime he does the beam from the side and then the bite attack that you can melee counter and trigger a special interactive cutscene where you can continously shoot him and end up in the finishing cutscene.
I'd guess they thought it would be difficult for players to do it due to the precision needed to line themselves up. Meanwhile shinesparking from the ground does look easier. Ngl, it'd be cool if they also made camera angles for the sideway approach.
Mercury Steam made it so most of the bosses take damage from Shinesparking into them whether or not you can gain/hold a charge long enough to hit them, but X-57's being an instant kill no matter its health at that point is unique to it, presumably because the fight always ends with Samus dazing it enough to knock it into the lava to start with, and Samus blitzing into it at mach-1 combined with it being lightheaded from exhaling for so long mops up the fight pretty quick.
It even has the adapted camera angle, so you know its legit
This game continues to impress me, I learn something new almost everyday!
the fact the camera angle updates makes me think this is what they had intented players to do in the first place, not killing it by ramming into the side of its jaw at mach 10
Think the same thing, with how abrupt the camera cut is with the non-upwards angles I wonder if it was an oversight and they didn't expect players to Shinespark it from other angles, or maybe just didn't have the time to program it to do the special camera angle for the other directions.
These little details are amazing!! I’m so happy that Mercury Steam took the time to add tiny details like Retro Studios did with Prime.
This should be GOTY, I don't care what anyone else says
Thre words, you are right. For me me it is either this or far cry 6
You say that like people disagree or something. Literally everyone loves Metroid Dread. It's quite literally the best metroidvania ever made. It's absolutely astonishingly good. It's easily the best game of the year, nothing else even comes close. The only people who would disagree are people who are salty they can't play it because they don't yet have a Nintendo switch. This game is even great for people who hate metroidvanias. It actually converts them to the genre because it's so well designed. It's impossible to become lost in the game, even though it doesn't tell you where to go like metroid Fusion did. It guides you subconsciously through its design.
@@duffman18 well, everyone who's not David Jaffe, at least
@@seroujghazarian6343 t h a t r o o m
@@seroujghazarian6343 everyone with more than 3 brain cells*
Those camera angles when you’re about to do a notable shinespark (your first shinespark in Dairon, the shinespark kill shown in this video, etc) make it feel so much cooler.
Don't forget the shinespark during the escape sequence
Also, the shinespark during the escape sequence
theres actually even more details, this cutscene is even more impressive.
If you look at the sideways shinespark clip and the Upward clip.
His extra limbs Are on the right / Left side respectedly.... at first i was like "Hmm maybe you can predict an attack pattern here how he will place these attacks to hop over"
In other clips ive seen theres no limbs at all.... So that wasn't it
Turns out (just tried it)... in that attack where he chases u with that aim point earlier, if you destroy its extra limbs there, this stays persistent even with the death animation, i destroyed his top right limb and in my kill animation he indeed had only these 3 limbs.
They could have just fully scripted the death animation to not have these limbs shown at all to avoid any inconsistencies... But they took care of it to keep even that battle damage persistent, and those extra limbs are actually moving in accord to how they should in this animation, the bottom one even twisting a bit as he falls over, Meaning they probly have this animated for each and every limb combination potentially / seperately just in case this happens.
it's a tiny detail but depending how this type of stuff is done in the games engine & cutscenes it is a huge undertaking as that ain't just simple ragdolls, this is hand crafted.
It may be slightly more likely that they just start that animation with the extra limbs added as external parts that are animated independently
the game can then dynamically hide or show certain limbs depending on battle damage without forcing their animators to ragdoll this guy 25 different times
I thought Z-57 couldn't be killed at all until those arms were broken.
You can also shinespark Golzuna's core-X for an insta-kill.
@@sluttyMapleSyrup You can also shinespark most of the CPUs to rip their armor off immediately. Huge time saver
@@GlenMerlin Unfortunately you only get the speed-booster after the third EMMI, so you only get to shinespark blue and purple, and only get to screw-attack purple.
@@sluttyMapleSyrup I didn't know you can break his arms
When the big x fell in the lava my first thought was "No! My ability!"
Bro this is crazy, it's been 2 months since it's released and people are STILL finding these epic little details or big secrets. Dread has got to be GOTY.
SM on SNES is how many decades old and people are still finding stuff in it.
This proves that the experiment instakill was intentional
Of course it was, otherwise it would not have done enough damage to kill the boss
The devs even giving damage to shinesparks in the first place signifies that they wanted people to go crazy and experiment with it on bosses (no pun intended)
@@heyitsyaboi8419 shinesparks having damage/killing things was also in previous entries in the series though
@@6dm978 bro they programmed the game no shit they knew this
They had to program the damage numbers, so yeah, of course they knew it'd be an instakill. If they didn't want people to one-shot bosses with it, then they would've just had it work like the screw attack where it does nothing to most bosses but takes out most normal enemies in one hit.
Gotta love how skipping things and getting power-ups early isn't punished, and is instead rewarded with special insta-kill animations for bosses.
I agree with you, but I think you fight Experiment No Z 57 WAAAAAY after you’re “supposed” to get the Speed Booster
Discovering this without prior knowledge was amazing for me
I find this all insanely cool that this exists.
Your videos never cease to amaze
Gotta love the uppercut
Samus Aranuppercut
The daaaaance!!
Samus in Mortal Kombat when?
@@NEXTGEN123 never. Too OP.
SHORYUKEN!!!
I always thought there was something to doing this for this boss since I kept trying to use my speed booster during that part thinking I needed it to navigate around with speed infused space jump! Can't wait to do this next battle!
Man, the first time I saw this cutscene, I was a bit disappointed the Core-X just fell into the lava... I wonder what powerup we could've gotten. Oh well lol
Extra arms
@@lightrealmrapono lol
A second arm Canon or rapid fire probably
Hyper Beam
The surprisingly absent High Jump Boots?
So much details this is INSANE. Thanks for the upload as Always you guys killed it
Ahh , the old dead space snatch and grab animation
This game is gorgeous in every way, I really hope it gets GOTY
Could the ppl at mercury steam be speedrunners themselves? Cuz the level of detail they put for both the standard gameplay and the speedrunner gameplay is awesome!
I wonder how many more hidden nuggets are in this game?
A lot. which is glorious.
2
There's one with Kraid where you can launch youself into his belly in morph ball form and then hurt him from inside. does tons of damage and can be triggered in the area below him with a bomb at the wall ( if that one even counts as a secret )
@@ju_scy Get flash-shift early and you can zip into Kraid's mouth during phase 2 to feed him missiles when his eyes glow.
you’re a hidden nugget
Okay, a new speedrun tip!
Also is just awesome, despite being an instakill.
Samusu with that last shot: "clean that up and don't make me come down here again."
Samus is a badass!
You can use Shinesparks on the following bosses to get a lot of damage.
Escue, Robot Chozo soldiers (if you hit one of the twin ones it basically kills it). Chozo soldiers, you can destroy the Shield and get to phase 2 of the battle. The central units in Ferenia and Ghavoron you can blast off their covers, and Golzuna (that arena you can Shinespark the core X as well)
When I found out you can shine spark this guy, I did it from the bottom the first time, didn't know you could do it from the side. But once I learned about the side one I haven't been able to do it from the bottom again kinda funny if you ask me
Oh fuck. So I guess this was the intended way to Shinespark this monster. And the sideways Shinespark was an extra secret!
They really thought of everything
0:39
Samus: A friend from a fighting game taught me this, SHORYUKEN!!
Samus is such a boss.
0:38 "Shoryuken!"
I always manage to find convoluted solutions before the simplest one. I didn’t think I had enough time to pull off a sideways or diagonal spark. The way I did it was by charging the spark at the end of the wind attack (where you do the upward spark for the camera angle) then space boosting and bouncing off each wall, storing the spark, dodging the third claw attack then sparking during the long roar. That upward spark doesn’t trigger a camera angle.
"It looks the same to me... holy fuck!"
Wow, this whole time I had been waiting for it to start its next attack. I didn't know it was vulnerable to shinesparks then.
Such great game design to let you explore different ways to kill bosses.
Love this channel 😎👍
So thats Cinimatic Shine Spark Camera number 3 found, Nice.
Every work of art has details
Another very cool bit of attention to detail.
makes me think the vertical version was more intended to happen since the special camera angle only happens in 2 places(although its 3 now.)
Literally just pulled this off today in my actual first ever speed run. God I love this game.
I kept trying to shinespark this boss. Glad to see its possible!
Everybody keeps finding new ways to humiliate these poor bosses
THANK YOU.. I didnt know this way of killing him and I just spent a solid 2 hours dying 300 times trying to beat him on Dread mode. Lol
That’s why he pauses after the blast
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT SAMUS WOULD HAVE GOTTEN FROM THAT CORE-X
I'm kicking myself for not including Zero Suit and researching Samus' characterization more.
That's how much I love it.
Wanna hear something hilarious? I sequence broke and somehow ended up facing this boss WITHOUT the Space Jump or Storm Missiles. And then I was frustrated from dying like 20 times in an hour so I just started button mashing and shinesparked it to death (not even knowing that was an option).
Cool
They _really_ thought through Dread.
This game is the literal definition of a masterpiece.
I wonder what power up that X had, would have been cool to see what it had
Fire extinguisher.
Kills me not knowing what fusion ability that X had to offer...
Those devs KNEW.
For the life of me I can't figure out how to do the midair shinespark! Samus just keeps space jumping when I attempt it!
Try to shoot, then immediately press jump.
Y+B
This is explained exactly nowhere in the game
Guys what if samus absorbed the X core of the experiment 😳
* Demoman targe'n charge scream *
This game is everything. GOTY.
YOOOOO?! You can INSTAKILL HIM?! I love that game SOOOO MUCH :)
Just got to this boss today. I'm going to try this to beat him. Thanks
Good luck, he's very fun to fight
Wait, I didn't use a shinespark to beat this boss and I got this cutscene.
Ita about the camera angle, not the cutscene
0:54 - CANNONBAAALLLL-*ARGH FU-*
Looks like something right of Resistance on the PS3.
Man this game just didn't let me
I literally did everything and the shinespark just stopped before hitting
That's tripping me out seeing his death cutscene with the extra claw limbs
When I first beat it I thought it was impossible to beat it without destroying all of those because I literally ran out of missiles trying to attack this guy and Dodge every attack and I thought I was playing perfectly but it still wouldn't die because I didn't destroy all the limbs. That was before I realized you didn't have to stand still in order to lock on with storm missiles cos Idk I guess I'm slow lol
But this battle CERTAINLY forces you to learn that under normal circumstances
There was one period in that entire text but I feel there should've been more.
Nope, Dan from Play Frames still thinks he has to aim to arm Storm Missiles
@NEXTGEN Hey what's the outro song? Im sure it's prime just cant put a finger on it
Prime 3 menu theme :)
So the sideways shinespark is legit a secret way to do the secret way to kill the boss
This video is about 5x longer than it needs to be
Ok
am i the only one that thought of chilled from the intro music
Can you be surprised I mean Samus basically shoyruken'd it.
I gotta play this again
I never thought to do it that way. That’s awesome.
I. LOVE. THIS. GAME!!!!!!
What are the soundtracks you use at the beginning and end of the video?
Ending song is Metroid Prime 3 menu theme. Intro song is a random drum and bass beat, not from anything particular.
@@NEXTGEN123 merci my friend
Developers expected that!!!!!!!!
I never thought you will do it. you read my comment on your videos (video dated 02 December 2021)
Playing through again on hard after a bit, I was trying to make this happen but ended up killing him without managing it. Came here just to see what happens if you do it. Insta-kill feels very appropriate, that's fkn awesome 👍
It really is :)
What if you shinespark downwards?
GOTY? More like GOTD (Game of the Decade), the attention to detail in this game and the amount of polish this has gotten and the sheer F-ing prediction by the developers for all the scenarios where people do things that aren't in the flow of the natural playthrough... This is a straight up F U to all the games that released broken, needed patching and have other sort of unlikeliness to them that isn't expected (or worse - is). I am on my 12th playthrough already and I can't get enough of the community finding new secrets and cutscenes 2 months post the launch of the game. This is nuts....
Ok relax it’s good but not Breath of the Wild good
It isn't nuts. It's the Nintendo seal of quality.
Another suprise from Nintendo.
Samus is so badass in this game, and a lot of it is thanks to Mercury Steam!
My sight must be going because I can't really tell the difference.
It took me a few times to see it, because I thought it looked exactly the same too... They're referring to the dropped camera angle for the vertical shinespark, like when you launch up the long shaft elsewhere in the game. It only does that in a few specific spots. Apparently this one too.
@@DaellusKnights Exactly what I thought.
@@DaellusKnights oh I get it now. I thought the cutscene was supposed to be different.
A green beam? Is that a post game thing? Or I simply forgot about it?
0:38 doesn't work for me. Even full sprint my character is not moving forward.
Are there multiple levels of sprint or something? It doesn't make sense. Did they patch this?
I just got this game maybe a week ago and have only beaten the first boss so please forgive my question.
Is that shinespark a glitch? Cheat? Or something you unlock later in the game?
Edit as of December 9th.
So I just downed the underwater boss and it was a great fight. However no loot from him? Strange.
@serouj
This is my first metroid game since super metroid and I have forgotten everything about it.
Something you unlock later in the game. It’s a powerful ability that you can use to defeat bosses. See a tutorial on my channel and also how to use it on other bosses :)
You unlock it later with the Speedbooster.
Something you unlock later in the game. If it was a glitch, it wouldn't have been in literally every mainline game (so no Prime) after Metroid 3, the Metroid 1 remake, and Other M.
@@seroujghazarian6343 it wasn't in samus returns tho
@@-jobrocodwawz-6226 I fixed that. Thanks for the correction.
My point is, how can it be a glitch when 1-it reappears in many other games, and 2- Nintendo encouraged it during the pre-released advertising
ah so thats the way you’re supposed to do it
Mt question is what lit powerup does that x core hold.... gone to lava
The Core just escaped into the lava, it picked up Kraid and then RB at the end
Storm Beam
Here’s a theory: if you were to catch that X core, you’ll get early Metroid Suit and Hyper Beam
Likely a variation of Ice beam or an extra bonus upgrade to the melee attack considering the boss’ main form of attack.
The boss has powerful swipe attacks, so maybe a powered up melee attack?
I think you only get the special camera angle when you shinespark upwards for the first time
There's a couple scripted spots but they're all super-long vertical rooms.
What’s the name of the boss. I’m stuck after this fight and don’t know where to go
Wait was this the intended way all along
Goty
In the first kill, I don't get how you're jumping after having prepped the shinespark. Jump is what triggers shinespark once it's ready.
And here I beat it without that trick like a chump lol
I mean, would be odd if it dipped its head sideways after effectively gettin uppercutted
Someone should try doing it In Morph ball form.
Oh THAT'S what your supposed to do? I just shot it til it died
No, not supposed. Just a more overpowered and quicker way to do it. The most intended way was to shoot him through his phases and everytime he does the beam from the side and then the bite attack that you can melee counter and trigger a special interactive cutscene where you can continously shoot him and end up in the finishing cutscene.
@@ju_scy that's what I've done on every playthrough
These Videos make it look so easy but my reflexes are crap
Why didn't developers implement a sideways shinespark camera angle?
This is the true way
I'd guess they thought it would be difficult for players to do it due to the precision needed to line themselves up. Meanwhile shinesparking from the ground does look easier.
Ngl, it'd be cool if they also made camera angles for the sideway approach.
Wait what happens if you diagonal shinespark?
Good question. This maybe even harder.
First time.i did that I fuckin died
Did they actually do this intentionally? There are other points in the game where a straight upwards shinespark tilts the camera just like this.
Mercury Steam made it so most of the bosses take damage from Shinesparking into them whether or not you can gain/hold a charge long enough to hit them, but X-57's being an instant kill no matter its health at that point is unique to it, presumably because the fight always ends with Samus dazing it enough to knock it into the lava to start with, and Samus blitzing into it at mach-1 combined with it being lightheaded from exhaling for so long mops up the fight pretty quick.
The first upward shinespark always tilts the camera. Nothing special about this situation. This video is misleading.
@@RaghavPrakash Experiment-57's head recoils on impact, so there is at least a unique animation to be seen here.
How did he shinespark in mid air though.
Hold L Button while Shinespark in mid air
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